Not a big fan of the interior compared to many of the other Supertalls or Billionaires Row towers going up now or proposed.
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The spire is awesome, way better than 1WTC's.
I'm guessing the height stayed the exact same? It'll look great when built I think :) |
Holy hell, this tower is going to be sexy as f%#k.
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This looks close to 1,500 feet! It looks like they've been tweaking the design for the better. I really like it, yeah. The renders have been worth the wait! :)
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For me its gonna bethe same way i felt about 432, hated the rendering but one it was built it loved it.
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I love the renders! I think this tower looks very New York as well, and I cannot wait until the completed product and what it will look like on the skyline will be amazing.
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It's pretty similar and i'm ok with that. I am quite happy that the spire is not a flimsy stick like the one atop one wtc.
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https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2...v9yx.gif?w=650 Make sure to not drive under the influnece of seeing such a rendering. Other effects may include vomiting, euphoria, dizziness, egotistical mania, and muttering Garry Barnett is Jesus incoherently on the Path train covered in your own sweat and tears. Ask your doctor is Nordstrom is right for you! |
^^^LOL, same here!
Edit-I mean to say I am feeling those last few symptoms already! |
I love how Top of the rock is slowly getting closed in. A new observation deck in midtown will be needed in the not so distant future.
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that spire is a beast.. holy crap. i think this looks pretty damn good.
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Not the most innovative skyscraper, but elegant as f**k!!!
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The massing will always be an issue to me, but it is what it is. I'm happy to see the glass is textured around the building and the spire is strong. It's not really my type of building or the architecture I enjoy, but I can understand how some might like it. Hopefully fully built out will look even better. |
My good lord that lighting scheme could be sexy as hell if they pull it off right. This building is jaw dropping NY STYLE...
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We don't even know what it will really look like either. Obviously, they will light the spire and maybe add some other lighting elements. |
Going to look amazing from the NJ Side. The views from Edgewater and the Palisades will be getting a lot better. All of these supertalls racing to the skies all at the same relative time.
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Otie's renders from last summer were pretty damn close: based on relative spire height this looks to be north of 1490...
don't get me started on WTC-1's unclad and therefore architecturally unfinished pathetic excuse for a spire- that building is 1373 ft tall. Period. CTBUH totally caved. |
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I think we can take for sure that they will also lit up the crown with those vertical bands. http://www.yimbynews.com/wp-content/.../Penthouse.jpg |
Gentlemen;
Do be aware also, as the YIMBY (Edit) article stated, that the area of Manhattan where this tower is to rise is app. 70' above sea level. Take the current height levels of the tower as currently estimated from street level by assumption (my emphasis), add the sea level figure and do the math. We're talking a perceived height of maybe at least 1,850 glorious feet, 150' shy of the grand benchmark many here seek. Because, after all, who but us skyscraper nerd frat brothers are gonna even know that Manhattan Island even has an elevation ASL? |
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The top of the spire on WTC is 1,806' MSL 1,855 will be the highest elevation to ever be built to in NYC.:cheers:
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I think Hoboken is a good spot to view it in the future. Can gain the extra illusion of height due to the topography. |
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I love how tiny One57 looks sandwiched between this and 111 w57th too.. :yes: |
New York is a beast. Can't wait to go back soon.
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Apparently , these are marketing materials and minor revisions are still being implemented. Basically, however, this is what will rise.
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http://nypost.com/2015/04/21/living-...rdstrom-tower/
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This building is insanity. Beautiful, beautiful insanity.
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NYC is Coruscant, simply amazing! Cant wait to see all these supertalls in one area in a couple of years.
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A refresher from the highrise thread 1) 152 skyscrapers / high rises u/c 2) 176 ... / ... planned 3) 6792 high rises/skyscrapers existing Currently Existing: 1) 6003 highrises (Based on the definition and range of height) AND 2) 789 Skyscrapers (Based on definition of skyscraper and range of height) Total: 6792 highrises and skyscrapers - - - - - - - - - - - Edit: Added extra cities to get an idea :: Jersey City: 184 high rises and skyscrapers Newark: 163 ... and .... Hoboken: 41 Guttenberg: 4 Fort Lee: 38 Union City: 10 West New York: 14 Edgewater: 6 Fairview: 2 Elizabeth: 26 Yonkers: 51 t(NYC + satellites) = 7280 skyscrapers/high rises * * High Rises comprising most of the numbers, especially for the Gold Coast. Does not include planned or u/c, this is for existing. |
How tall will the parapet / mechanical space be on the top? This render makes it look like there will be 100s of feet of non-usable space before you hit the "spire"
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The solid roof of the 1479' design was 1428', if it's up to 1,493 it should maybe be 1440' to the top floor/solid roof |
Well it actually *is* accurate.. just very badly drawn. The white line from 1479' Parapet does a 90 degree upward turn *exactly* on the edge of the building... I had to do a double-take to see it does go all the way to the red dot on the roof....
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I was referring more to 1WTC being out of scale, but yea Nordstrom is seen from a funny angle in that picture. |
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By then, much of it would already be up, and whats a few extra feet for ego. Marketing wise, being the nations tallest sounds a lot better than being second. Eh, we will see, but a covert tactics like that would be nice. But depending on which definition you use, spire or not, this is the tallest to the roof so technically some in the architect/real estate community would view this as the tallest in the Western Hemisphere. |
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Honestly I think "one of the tallest in the world" sounds better than "tallest in the Western Hemisphere". It certainly is up there especially if you count the spire. |
When I heard Adrian Smith was chosen to design this building, I was terribly disappointed. He is perfectly fine at what he does, but I certainly wouldn't call him a great architect; or even very-good. He is simply...good, which is a perfectly appropriate thing to aspire to if you are building mid-block mid-rises in downtown Dallas or Seattle. The fact that he the de-facto architect for any massive skyscraper right now is mind-boggling. Seeing this design, I find myself absolutely vindicated. If this were a 50 story building in Jersey City, I'd be satisfied. As the new highest-peak in Manhattan, it is a sham, and a money-grab and idiotic. Gary Barnett is a clown.
The design is in no way innovative or smart or beautiful. It wants to be sleek but fails miserably with dozens of unnecessary lines (the original render was actually much better in this regard). It wants to be beautiful but is merely handsome in a goofy kind of way (this goofiness is made worse by the juxtaposition with the gorgeous 111 W 57th and Tower Verre). I'm sure they will try to find some way that this thing is innovative, and I'm sure they will fail. It's just tall. And boring. Ugh. |
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To each their own, maybe it will grow on you once built. I thought 432 park Avenue was going to look odd but I like it now that it exists in real life and not in a rendering. I do see what you're saying though, I often find that what we gain in height we lose in design (with the exception on a few buildings). We should always have both... but even with that being said I think this building will look pretty good or even better than that. I mean the facade looks real nice, it has an actual spire that fits with the building, it's not a complete box and to top it off it's a behemoth that would be the second tallest building even in Dubai or Shanghai. It's hard to complain too much, it's not any less cool than other North American 400+ meter buildings (Sears, old WTC, new WTC, 432 etc...) |
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The fact that the new render is both (technically) unofficial and low rez gives me pause. I think we are still basically where we have been for the last 6 months or so regarding the final design and final roof and parapet height. Kind of a let-down actually. Still nothing official.:shrug:
Otie's renders are still the best so far. Nothing much to see here folks except for, perhaps, a couple detail items on the tower... |
So then why (what AGAIN seems to have turned out to be) the tease on the promise of official renderings from the idiot parties involved once "official"-W/everTF that means--construction got underway?
For that matter, why did YIMBY declare official the renderings from the other day when this now apparently seems to be not the case? IMHO it comes off like an act of gamesmanship in order to get the lead out of Barnett & S/G's collective pants. For that reason alone, I can understand Barnett's pissivity at the releases; but this incessant hemming and hawing with renders and the finality/lack thereof just makes him look all the more like the chief engineer of a PR trainwreck that started with the CB5 meetings. AFAIC, I'm utterly shocked that the egos in play here didn't simply kill this project. And I'm getting awfully tired of thinking that I'll have to wait till this tower is 800 feet in the air to find out that what I'm seeing is at long last what I get. Besides, how can we trust the so-called "brain trust" of a massive construction project to tell the whole truth on their project's status when on even one aspect thereof they're sorely lacking in that regard? (Rhetoric Warning Will Robinson>>) You have definitively, absolutely, unequivoally official renders to share with the rest of the class? Dandy; let's see them and move ahead. Otherwise leave me alone till that happens and spare us all the self-righteous indignation over whatever. |
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