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Wattleigh Nov 19, 2007 7:01 PM

A few photos I took Sunday afternoon of the ongoing demolition of the West Building. This will be part of the block that is cleared for MainPlace.

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSC01828.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSC01829.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSC01830.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSC01832.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...n/DSC01831.jpg

rdavis4559 Nov 19, 2007 7:09 PM

I'm glad to see that going down... the whole area has a bad smell. Also, I have to find a different route when walking toward the bus stop during deconstruction because the dust from that work is so bad.

Xeelee Nov 19, 2007 7:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdavis4559 (Post 3177210)
"Phoenix Tower getting new skin

The Phoenix Tower is undergoing a major exterior renovation to improve its look and energy efficiency.

Horizontal rows of glass panels between each floor of the all-glass office building are being replaced with silver bands.... "

http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/s...l?ana=from_rss

I didnt notice anything....

Xeelee Nov 19, 2007 7:31 PM

Yeah I dont really see a difference... perhaps they are working on the other side of the tower?

WAMU has vacated their space there. They moved all their small business operations to San Antonio. Some huge building with lots of square feet of space. :hell: :hell: :hell: :hell:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/P3170036.jpg

Wattleigh Nov 19, 2007 7:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xeelee (Post 3177485)
Yeah I dont really see a difference... perhaps they are working on the other side of the tower?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...e/P3170036.jpg

You can see it on the north and south sides of the tower... It's even in a portion of your photo.

Add that and the fact they installed a landscaped Jack Nicklaus putting green atop the garage for tenants, and they're primed to be attractive to interested parties. Lots of places would kill for a Greenway/ UK area address.

Xeelee Nov 19, 2007 7:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wattleigh (Post 3177501)
You can see it on the north and south sides of the tower... It's even in a portion of your photo.

Sorry dude but maybe it's me. I mean I see some color difference but it does not look like much... Perhaps I'm just :koko:

Wattleigh Nov 19, 2007 7:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xeelee (Post 3177503)
Sorry dude but maybe it's me. I mean I see some color difference but it does not look like much... Perhaps I'm just :koko:

It shows up better on clearer or at least brighter days when the sunlight interacts with the building more visibly. Alternating bands of Bluish-green & Silver.

Plus, if I'm not mistaken, the vacancy rate in that building is around 10%... so it's not that terrible.

rdavis4559 Nov 20, 2007 12:53 AM

Has anyone heard of this yet?

http://www.pickardchilton.com/pagProject.aspx?Group='CORPORATE'&ID=11

Wattleigh Nov 20, 2007 1:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdavis4559 (Post 3178254)
Has anyone heard of this yet?

http://www.pickardchilton.com/pagProject.aspx?Group='CORPORATE'&ID=11

That project was cancelled earlier in the decade. It would've been an impressive tower for the area, and was supposed to have been 588' tall. AIM scaled back their plans after 9/11 and this was one of the victims of that move.

The site it would've occupied went undeveloped for a number of years and it had decent frontage between the Lakewood campus and the Mercedes dealership. It was developed over the past few years and is currently an apartment complex with a shopping center in front.

Wattleigh Nov 20, 2007 1:33 AM

I took these photos of several projects under construction around town over the past week.

Cosmopolitan
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...tan111807A.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...ian111807B.jpg

Mosaic II
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...ic2111507A.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...ic2111507C.jpg

Methodist Outpatient Tower
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...ower111807.jpg

Rice Collaborative Research Center
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...ive111807B.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...lab111807A.jpg

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...ter111807C.jpg

toxteth o'grady Nov 20, 2007 3:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trae (Post 3176342)
Houston is actually growing quite a bit faster than the Phoenix metro. Atlanta and Dallas are the only ones that are ahead, but not by much.

And Atlanta and Dallas both benefitted from faster growth earlier in the decade. I think Houston's growing faster.

And for the first time in decades, Houston's got a lower office vacancy rate than metro DC.

toxteth o'grady Nov 20, 2007 3:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdavis4559 (Post 3176780)
Without going into the whole Houston v. Dallas thing, I do think it is unfair that most statistics about Dallas actually include Fort Worth as well. They are far enough apart, and I'm sure that if you just included the Dallas metro area without including Fort Worth, Houston's growth would be equal to or higher than that of Dallas.

Actually, in 1980, the Houston MSA was bigger than the two of them put together. That was back in the days of the last oil price shock. Things seem to have come back around again.

That said, DFW's a big, sprawling metro. The two cities have more or less merged.

TexasBoi Nov 20, 2007 3:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rdavis4559 (Post 3176780)
Without going into the whole Houston v. Dallas thing, I do think it is unfair that most statistics about Dallas actually include Fort Worth as well. They are far enough apart, and I'm sure that if you just included the Dallas metro area without including Fort Worth, Houston's growth would be equal to or higher than that of Dallas.

Downtown Dallas to Downtown Fort Worth is 30 miles.
Dallas Western most city limits to Fort Worth's eastern most city limits is 10 miles.

I think that's close enough, IMO. Not to mention that a good bit of Tarrant County residents work in Dallas County.

Trae Nov 20, 2007 3:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 3178540)
And Atlanta and Dallas both benefitted from faster growth earlier in the decade. I think Houston's growing faster.

And for the first time in decades, Houston's got a lower office vacancy rate than metro DC.

Houston has grown faster than Dallas-Fort Worth since 2002 every year (except 2005 when DFW grew faster by about 9,000).

CALMSP Nov 20, 2007 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trae (Post 3178579)
Houston has grown faster than Dallas-Fort Worth since 2002 every year (except 2005 when DFW grew faster by about 9,000).

and that was probably when all of Houston drove North to escape Rita!! :haha:

Xeelee Nov 20, 2007 4:13 PM

Why can't we all just get along?

JManc Nov 20, 2007 7:02 PM

the phoenix tower really needed to be renovated. the mismatched glass panels really made the building look neglected.

Trae Nov 20, 2007 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xeelee (Post 3179331)
Why can't we all just get along?

Uh..who is arguing?

Saddle Man Nov 20, 2007 10:39 PM

Yeah, why just do some of the glass? It needs a completely new exterior.

Xeelee Nov 21, 2007 6:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kingkirbythegreat (Post 3180200)
Yeah, why just do some of the glass? It needs a completely new exterior.

Perhaps they can add extra floors?


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