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DC83 Sep 12, 2008 12:49 PM

^^ but it's still way more than what was 'going on' in the 90's.

Although we may not be developing like Toronto or Vancouver (several 200+ ft towers), it doesn't mean we're not making progress.
Montreal, as an example, spent the last several years on infil projects. And, imo, it's a much better City to spend time in than Toronto.

They could have chosen to put this motel or the LTH etc along Upper James, or near Mac, or up by Meadowlands... but for whatever reason people are choosing Downtown again. Infill is where a downtown like ours needs to start. Popping up a skyscraper while there are empty lots EVERYwhere doesn't make sense. The City is working on filling those holes which to me looks like progress. Slow progress, but hey, Welcome to Hamilton!

So nice try, Ted.

raisethehammer Sep 12, 2008 1:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCTed (Post 3794613)
I think the problem here is that there is little going on in downtown Hamilton, so anything that goes on gets a ton of attention.

If there were twenty developments of this size or larger, then everyone would agree that it looked ugly, would mention it once or twice, and would move on. Instead, we hear the same old comments about it on a near-continuous basis.

this ignorant comment just proves that you're never downtown.
There's been a TON of infill and lots of projects downtown over the past 5 years.
This one is getting attention because it's one of the worst.

SteelTown Sep 12, 2008 1:58 PM

You are just feeding him you know. It's likely next he'll ask you to name the "TON of infill", etc.

the dude Sep 12, 2008 2:05 PM

it's official...i loathe this site. peace.

raisethehammer Sep 12, 2008 2:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteelTown (Post 3795216)
You are just feeding him you know. It's likely next he'll ask you to name the "TON of infill", etc.

to which I'll respond, "get off your duff and find out for yourself".
Like most of us, I'm a huge Hamilton fan.
I NEVER hear Ted bring any good ideas to the table. I never hear him talk about public meetings he's attended or involvement in projects to bring LRT here or downtown brainstorming sessions, community council meetings etc.....
I realize I'm about to be accused of having a "hate on" for something or other, but the fact is, I refuse to stand by while some troll tries to hijack a forum about Hamilton.
I could name more than 20 projects that have taken place in recent years, as could most of you.
It's pretty bad when good Hamilton fans like the Dude feel the need to leave the forum.
It's fine if Ted wants to praise suburbs more than urbanism. I really don't care. But don't start lying about what has or hasn't happened downtown in recent years.
Change is all around us. those of us who actually live in this city care about design, urban fabric and livability.
Soft responses and always making excuses for Ted is what really feeds him.

adam Sep 12, 2008 8:28 PM

Its a shame there are a few people on this site who used to live in Hamilton but moved away because it was going through crappy times 5 or 10 years ago. Now that its starting to pick up, they feel that they have to rationalize that they made the right decision by trying to nullify everything.

BCTed Sep 12, 2008 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raisethehammer (Post 3795268)
to which I'll respond, "get off your duff and find out for yourself".
Like most of us, I'm a huge Hamilton fan.
I NEVER hear Ted bring any good ideas to the table. I never hear him talk about public meetings he's attended or involvement in projects to bring LRT here or downtown brainstorming sessions, community council meetings etc.....
I realize I'm about to be accused of having a "hate on" for something or other, but the fact is, I refuse to stand by while some troll tries to hijack a forum about Hamilton.
I could name more than 20 projects that have taken place in recent years, as could most of you.
It's pretty bad when good Hamilton fans like the Dude feel the need to leave the forum.
It's fine if Ted wants to praise suburbs more than urbanism. I really don't care. But don't start lying about what has or hasn't happened downtown in recent years.
Change is all around us. those of us who actually live in this city care about design, urban fabric and livability.
Soft responses and always making excuses for Ted is what really feeds him.


My comment was in no way meant to be provocative, nor was it an indication that I do not like Hamilton. I just do not think that all that much is going on.

You are not the Hamilton champion you claim to be. I have seen you say that people refused to "get off their duffs" and "acted like Hamiltonians" when an event was underattended. I have seen you come back from days in Buffalo and Toronto and pretty much claim that Hamilton does not have much going on. I can provide quotes if necessary.

Had I said anything like any of the things you said, I would have been roasted.

raisethehammer Sep 13, 2008 3:59 AM

FYI, so everyone knows, we finished this 'chat' in the 'Hamilton Fight Club' forum. Lol.
My apologies.
Carry on with the beautiful Days Inn! haha

thmx Jul 14, 2016 9:30 PM

210 Main Street East | ? | 10 fl | Proposed
 
http://i.imgur.com/mg28J8y.jpg
210 Main Street East by davidcapizzano, on Twitter

http://i.imgur.com/TZzdLBe.jpg
210 Main Street East by davidcapizzano, on Twitter

http://i.imgur.com/AjsFYAy.jpg
210 Main Street East by davidcapizzano, on Twitter

The building would be a student residence. It is being proposed by the developer that built OneFortyNine Luxury Residences.

Hawrylyshyn Jul 14, 2016 9:50 PM

Where exactly is this proposed for, the location of the ugly Days Inn or whatever that hotel is?

thmx Jul 14, 2016 9:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawrylyshyn (Post 7503802)
Where exactly is this proposed for, the location of the ugly Days Inn or whatever that hotel is?

Yeah.

eatboots Jul 15, 2016 1:20 AM

Ugly building replaced by ugly building! That's progress!

ScreamingViking Jul 15, 2016 3:48 AM

How I'd have said it:
Quote:

Originally Posted by eatboots (Post 7503985)
Ugly building replaced by BIGGER ugly building! That's progress!


This may just be a preliminary concept, but I bet it will be much like the OneFortyNine development. At least the DRP is encouraging them to pretty it up and consider the local context:

Quote:

210 Main Street East

• Height: 10 storeys, 176 units, 56 parking spaces

• Design: U-Shape, retail front, parking rear

• Location: Days Inn at the Corner of Main Street East and Spring Street.

Panellist Robert Freedman praised the developers for presenting a "very urban building," which the city is trying to encourage. He noted that opting for rental units rather than condos was reflective of market trends.

Though the building, dubbed "The Scholar Luxury Residence" during the presentation, is targeted at students, anyone will be able to rent a unit in it, said developer Azim Kassam.

The panellists agreed the building could be improved from a design standpoint, especially through the incorporation of design elements that would spill over from the designated heritage building next door.

"There are some improvements that need to be done to be more sympathetic to the neighbourhood," said Colizza, who also recommended the developer consider building a few storeys higher, thereby eliminating the building's west wing.

That would eliminate proximity to the heritage building and the "looming mass overlooking their rear yards" for the neighbourhood behind the building, he said.
http://www.thespec.com/news-story/67...tments-higher/

lucasmascotto Jul 15, 2016 3:54 AM

DavidCappi and I attend the meeting and one of the best comments the panelist's said, was that the building was too "Stalinist". The whole room broke out in laughter. I couldn't have agreed more with the sentiment. :haha::yuck:

ScreamingViking Jul 15, 2016 4:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucasmascotto (Post 7504099)
DavidCappi and I attend the meeting and one of the best comments the panelist's said, was that the building was too "Stalinist". The whole room broke out in laughter. I couldn't have agreed more with the sentiment. :haha::yuck:

Did the developer finish their presentation with "do svidaniya!"? :haha:

drpgq Jul 15, 2016 4:39 PM

Strikes me as a little far from Mohawk and McMaster to gear it towards students, but I'm sure it would do fine.

How old is that Days Inn? I guess the same guy already owns it so the site makes sense for him.

LikeHamilton Jul 15, 2016 6:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drpgq (Post 7504521)
How old is that Days Inn? I guess the same guy already owns it so the site makes sense for him.

Looks like it was finished in August 2008.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=140696

mishap Jul 15, 2016 7:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomax (Post 7503770)
The building would be a student residence.

Perfect. It should be finished by the time the one bus that goes directly to McMaster is routed off campus. Thank you, Westdale.

Beedok Jul 15, 2016 9:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucasmascotto (Post 7504099)
DavidCappi and I attend the meeting and one of the best comments the panelist's said, was that the building was too "Stalinist". The whole room broke out in laughter. I couldn't have agreed more with the sentiment. :haha::yuck:

But it doesn't look Stalinist. Siberian worker city yes, but those were (mostly)Khrushchev's doing. Stalin was all about the fancy and ornate.(Near the end rebuilding after the war caused some corner cutting, but he still wanted things ornate.)

durandy Jul 16, 2016 1:57 AM

rant/ at what point will property values in this town be high enough that developers start building significant buildings? Has there been a single new building built during this so-called revival with any lasting value? Core Urban has done some nice redevelopments. Same with Treble Hall and even the Stinson school, on the outside. The new medical campus is ok. Rudy Hulst Commons and Good Shepherd square pretty nice. None of the above merit much of a second look. Every single Vranich project is a POS, father and son, new stadium is a POS, City Square is totally bland. Hamilton of the 2010s is looking exactly as horrible as Hamilton of the 1960s-70s. /rant


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