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Godzilla Jan 22, 2013 4:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alester young (Post 5983164)
Mayor Shaw,

I like the irony of your user name :D, but suspect that your alter ego died before I was born.

By all accounts the real Mayor Shaw was from the Dark Side. Have there been any previous posts on this thread about him?

He should have been brought to book for his criminal taste in footwear (what the heck is he wearing)? LOL.

alester



Mayor Shaw looks like he knew how to celebrate any event. All images from LAPL.

1935 - Mayor Shaw helps celebrate FDR Brithday
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics17/00028181.jpg

1938 - Mayor Shaw and entourage prepare to meet FDR
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics17/00028227.jpg


Mayor Shaw receives badge bearing Los Angeles City Seal.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics29/00034100.jpg

BifRayRock Jan 22, 2013 5:09 PM

Lafayette Park adjacent.

1931 - Occidental Boulevard. Looking south from Third Street.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics37/00068383.jpgLapl

1931 - Occidental Blvd. Looking north from 5th Street, including Precious Blood Roman Catholic Church.
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics37/00068384.jpgLapl

ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2013 7:24 PM

http://imageshack.us/a/img834/4563/aabcol1am1.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img405/7175/a...ssadorsign.jpg


I found a 'sister' sign to the Ambassador Dog & Cat Hospital sign on North Figueroa at Roselawn Place.

http://imageshack.us/a/img825/5005/aabcol1nfig2.jpg
gsv





http://imageshack.us/a/img715/463/aa...roaatrosel.jpg
gsv




sadly, it's blank on both sides. :(

http://imageshack.us/a/img210/5371/aabcol1nfig1.jpg
gsv





The sign is atop an animal hospital. (just like the Ambassador)

http://imageshack.us/a/img716/2383/aabcol1nf2.jpg
google aerial
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GaylordWilshire Jan 22, 2013 7:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5982622)
I am using the above postcard and photograph as a preface to this extremely interesting photograph dated 1957. (found on an old cd of mine)

http://imageshack.us/a/img41/3571/la...downwestmo.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/58217/rec/1

At first, I thought I was looking at this wrong.
Did the Hotel Westmoore actually build an addition in front of it's classic columned facade?

detail of the mystery addition
http://imageshack.us/a/img853/4654/l...downw2deta.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...id/58217/rec/1

I am still looking for a photograph of the Hotel Westmoore with this addition.
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ER: I haven't seen any pics of an intact Westmoore with the building in front. From what I can tell, it appears that the owners built an income-producing commercial structure (or sold off the frontage to new owners who built one). In any case, the center bay may have become the Westmoore's new entrance, giving the hotel the new address of 1004 West 7th, with commercial space on either side. Judging by insurance maps and Times ads, the new bldg was built after 1921. Antiques auction galleries appear to have a first tenant of the new 1000 space, as early as Oct 1922; a few years later, things got more interesting when the Health Center moved into 1000. It featured a "Corrective Eating Cafeteria," a health food store, and lectures by none other than Dr. Philip Lovell, he of the famed Lovell Health House in Los Feliz and the Lovell Beach House down in Newport Beach.


https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-b...2520PM.bmp.jpgTimes Sept 6, 1925


http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3...1957complb.jpg

ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2013 7:40 PM

:previous: Thanks so much for the information GaylordWilshire! What an intriguing place.

GaylordWilshire Jan 22, 2013 7:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5983393)
I found a 'sister' sign to the Ambassador Dog & Cat Hospital sign on North Figueroa at Roselawn Place.
http://imageshack.us/a/img715/463/aa...roaatrosel.jpg
gsv

sadly, it's blank on both sides. :(

The sign is atop an animal hospital. (just like the Ambassador)

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Its placement above a vet is a coincidence... but it seems that that's an old Western Auto sign. A cursory look reveals no picture of the un-blank sign, but Western Auto was at 5540 N Fig in 1956, for one date.

ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2013 8:04 PM

I am surprised we haven't crossed paths with photographer Joseph Jasgur.


unknown model
http://imageshack.us/a/img195/7424/a...urphotogra.jpg
ebay/




information from ebay.
http://imageshack.us/a/img803/8345/a...hjasgurinf.jpg


....and now for the 'noirish' part.....the Lincoln Zephyr & crime photos.

http://imageshack.us/a/img833/8345/a...hjasgurinf.jpg


I don't think I've ever seen a Joseph Jasgur crime photo. Time to do some research.
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ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2013 8:12 PM

Another Joseph Jasgur 'pin-up'.


unkown model
http://imageshack.us/a/img507/1305/a...ephjasgur1.jpg
ebay
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I guess Mr. Jasgur's photograph is too much for imageshack. :( ? -go figure.
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alester young Jan 22, 2013 8:16 PM

Mayor Shaw
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 5983199)
Mayor Shaw looks like he knew how to celebrate any event. All images from LAPL.

1935 - Mayor Shaw helps celebrate FDR Brithday
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics17/00028181.jpg

1938 - Mayor Shaw and entourage prepare to meet FDR
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics17/00028227.jpg


Mayor Shaw receives badge bearing Los Angeles City Seal.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics29/00034100.jpg

Great pictures, Godzilla -many thanks. I'll search the internet for more information about Mayor Shaw.

It has been fascinating meeting the characters introduced on this site -before reading the thread, I hadn't heard of Mayor Shaw, Hazel Glab, Brenda Allen or the guy who started photo booths (amongst others). I knew of Mickey Cohen, but didn't know that he had run a menswear shop -did he supply Mayor Shaw, I wonder? :D

Alester

tovangar2 Jan 22, 2013 8:40 PM

Roadside Vernacular Architecture
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Albany NY (Post 5982625)
While trying to find info on the Malamute, I somehow stumbled upon this ice cream stand, circa 1930's. I'm not sure it's been covered before. Sorry if it has been. It apparently existed in LA until 1979. Any ideas on the location?
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Z.../hootsmall.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 5982641)

Unconfirmed: Valley Blvd., Rosemead?

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5982965)
According to the website of South Gate High School's Class of 1956, with a link to information by Tillie Hattrup's grandchild, the owl was built on Valley Blvd in Rosemead in 1926 and moved soon after to a better location three blocks away. In 1928 the owl was trucked down to South Gate, where it stood at 8404 Long Beach Blvd for about 20 years. It was by this time called the Hoot Owl Cafe, serving more than ice cream. In 1949 the owl moved again, this time to 8711 Long Beach Blvd. It lasted there for 30 years.

http://www.southgatehigh.org/Hoothoot.htm


It appears that Roy and Tillie moved with their owl down to South Gate; they and their two sons were living at 8173 Beeachwood Ave in 1930; it seems that Roy flew the coupe before the next census; in 1940 Tillie was living with one son at 2808 Illinois Ave in this interesting court:

GW is, as always, correct (and then some).

Anyone who's at all interested in roadside vernacular architecture may want to turn to Jim Heimann's first book California Crazy (1980), in print for 20 years. Jim brought out a new edition in 2010 covering the entire United States, California Crazy and Beyond. Amazon has used copies for $1.99 (a new paperback is $12). The original edition had the Toed Inn (just covered on this thread) on the cover. The new edition sports the Dog Cafe. The books include lots of photos (of course) and addresses, but not, alas, the interesting homes of the owners. We need (and value) GW for that.


http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...SH20_OU01_.jpg

Chuckaluck Jan 22, 2013 8:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godzilla (Post 5983193)
IHere is one such example concerning the Hollywood Storage Building at 1025 N. Highland (unless it has disappeared too).

Hollywood Storage 1025 N Highland
1928
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics48/00073541.jpg

Missing image. (With editor's interpretation of Van Gogh's Starry Night.)
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0USC Digital

Chuckaluck Jan 22, 2013 9:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alester young (Post 5983452)
I'll search the internet for more information about Mayor Shaw.

http://afox11.dyndns-pics.com/David/r/dar1163.jpgEbay

Notes are amusing. "President Roosevelt delivers a speech, ignoring Los Angeles Mayor Frank Shaw, left. The president began his address without being introduced by the mayor, The Times said." (FDR was campaigning for a certain McAdoo of Berkeley Square. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7937

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/phot...fdr_speech.jpg
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thed...0717_cover.jpg LATimes

Chuckaluck Jan 22, 2013 9:43 PM

1936 (September 17) - Cahuenga Blvd Advertising.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...age&DMROTATE=0

tovangar2 Jan 22, 2013 9:44 PM

When puritanism and prurient interest collide..
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Socko (Post 4766399)
GIRLS DENY CHARGE
A check-up revealed 362 men had been arrested in addition to the four women. The latter described themselves as: Ruth Williams, 21 years of age, of 1347 North Serrano street; Isabelle Clemons, 20, of 420 Fetterly street; Doloros Moreno, 19, transient, and Ruth Scott, 22, of 1215 West Tenth street. They pleaded not guilty before Municipal Judge Eagen to the charge of being dissolute persons. Bail was fixed at $150 each pending trial on the 19th inst.
Six of the men taken into custody were booked as promoters of the show. They gave their names as Glen B. Mates and George N. Hammond of Glendale; Harry Gaston of Long Beach, Otto Good of Ocean Park, and Lloyd Baxter and Ray J. Faeth of Los Angeles.

Pfft. The "girls'" full street addresses (and ages) are reported, but not the men's? Guess they wanted to make sure they were good and "ruined".

P.S.

A fave pic of you Mayor Shaw. Mayor and Mrs Shaw pack Christmas hampers for Los Angeles' poor, 1934.
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-I...735%2520PM.jpg
reddawgcollectibles/eBay

Mrs Shaw looks such a shrew, one almost feels sorry for the mayor. What is he doing to that dead bird?

AlvaroLegido Jan 22, 2013 9:51 PM

Line simplification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5982683)
Interesting facts about the Hotel Westmoore.

http://imageshack.us/a/img687/3237/l...rjustfound.jpg
http://www.usc.edu/libraries/subject...orichotels.pdf

It's hard to believe the Hotel Westmoore was already 30 years old in 1910!!

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I guess you are suspecting right, Ethereal.
If we look to the Fremont Hotel (1880's) and then to the Bradbury Building (1893), we notice that the simplification of lines increases every ten years (to the 1970's I guess). The Westmore looks simpler than the Bradbury. So I'd say it was built in the 1900's.

ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2013 10:14 PM

originally posted by GaylordWilshire
http://imageshack.us/a/img687/5493/a...tmoorenwps.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img834/3083/a...lwaddition.jpg





If you look closely, you can make out the addition in front of the Hotel Westmoore. (circled in gray)

http://imageshack.us/a/img836/4019/a...lwestmoore.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/

This photograph is dated 1955...two years before it's demise.
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below: Gone (date unknown)

http://imageshack.us/a/img818/4019/a...lwestmoore.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/
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I've looked in vain for a street view. There must be one somewhere especially since the addition was built back in the 1920s.

malumot Jan 22, 2013 10:30 PM

My thoughts as well, Alvaro. Is it just me, or do I detect a whiff of Prairie School in those windows? They look astonishingly similar to the Melrose on Grand. It may be quibbling, but I don't think the Westmoore was built any earlier than 1890:

My patented Palm Tree Dating Device puts both those trees at around 15 years old.

Besides....who would even think of building a hotel at 7th and Francisco in 1880? That was way out in the sticks then. LA only had 11,000 people in 1880.


Here's a link to the first 30 pages of Historic Hotels Of Los Angeles and Hollywood. All your Downtown favorites are here....unfortunately the preview ends a couple pages into the chapter on Bunker Hill.


http://books.google.com/books?id=ElS...page&q&f=false



Quote:

Originally Posted by AlvaroLegido (Post 5983589)
I guess you are suspecting right, Ethereal.
If we look to the Fremont Hotel (1880's) and then to the Bradbury Building (1893), we notice that the simplification of lines increases every ten years (to the 1970's I guess). The Westmore looks simpler than the Bradbury. So I'd say it was built in the 1900's.


ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2013 10:39 PM

The multistory The Players Supper Club on Sunset Boulevard.

http://imageshack.us/a/img703/4448/a...sartsmemeb.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...&postcount=926





The Players building today.

http://imageshack.us/a/img6/6423/aabplayerscloseup.jpg
gsv





below: looking a bit forlorn. The Chateau Marmont is visible on the right.

http://imageshack.us/a/img191/1681/a...oxburyroad.jpg
gsv




below: view from Roxbury Drive.

http://imageshack.us/a/img138/4527/a...ilevelsupp.jpg
gsv


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ethereal_reality Jan 22, 2013 11:47 PM

I thought this 'modern' Egyptian Theater was a different theater than Grauman's original Egyptian until I spotted the 'Pig N' Whistle' building
on the right. (the slide is dated 1966)

http://imageshack.us/a/img845/5469/aabeyp1in1966.jpg
slide/ebay







The Egyptian Theater with it's modernized entrance is at the extreme left in this view of Hollywood Blvd. (also from 1966)

http://imageshack.us/a/img20/3171/aabeypt11966ebay.jpg
slide/ebay



The Egyptian Theater in 1942. The original design has already been altered.

http://imageshack.us/a/img13/1789/aabeyp1in1942lapl.jpg
http://www.lapl.org/






The theater has been restored to it's original design by American Cinematheque.

http://imageshack.us/a/img651/3341/a...n1966today.jpg
gsv






below: This photograph is so noirish I had to post it again. The 'Pig N' Whistle' Cafe sign is visible among others.

originally posted by BifRayRock
http://imageshack.us/a/img405/159/aa...r1937laplb.jpg
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=11728

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ethereal_reality Jan 23, 2013 12:35 AM

By sheer coincidence 'How to Steal a Million' (1966) is playing on TCM tonight at 8:00 eastern time. How is that for serendipity?

http://imageshack.us/a/img845/5469/aabeyp1in1966.jpg
ebay



http://imageshack.us/a/img841/796/aabegyptianh.jpg
not sure
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