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AusTex Jul 23, 2013 6:14 PM

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Originally Posted by hookem (Post 6206317)
I was referring to the parking garage on land that the city commandeered via eminent domain (after the convention center was built):

http://www.austinchronicle.com/news/...ctory-at-last/

It's right next to the convention center.

"Commandeered" is a good term. The Hilton which is on city land and will become city property...I think after 30-40 years after completion was supposed to have major underground parking. The developer said they could not do the project with that requirement. Hence the city "took" the land for the purpose of a convention center garage.

GoldenBoot Jul 24, 2013 9:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Austin1971 (Post 6204520)
Don't forget the JW, Fairmont and Hilton have a combined 300k feet of exhibit space.......And all are close to the convention center.

And don't forget the Convention Center owns and operates Palmer Events Center on Barton Springs (70,000/131,000 SF).

Urbannizer Jul 26, 2013 10:14 PM

A mixed-use tower is planned for Austin

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Originally Posted by Bisnow

Kurt (whose office is designing 7M SF totaling $1B across property types) proved his prowess as a prognosticator. During last year's event, he predicted mixed-use would grow. (Now we call him every day for the weather and the trifecta winners at the horse track.) He was right, but there's been a shift within that sector from horizontal to vertical mixed-use. The facilities are high-rises with product types stacked on top of each other—Ziegler Cooper is designing two of these, one in Houston and one in Austin. The Houston facility will include multifamily, hotel, retail, and office components.

http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-rea...why-build-now/

and a comment on HAIF:

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Originally Posted by Lockmat
Well let me just rain on the parade already.

My journalistic source said the one in Austin is not that tall and the office component in Houston may be a separate project. Very strange.

http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/h...e/#entry429263


zedaref Jul 26, 2013 11:34 PM

Trinity Place? Seems like a pretty good place for some condos/apartments stacked on top of a hotel.

LoneStarMike Jul 27, 2013 12:51 AM

^^^I was going to guess Waterloo Park Tower

but it looks like their application expired on July 12.

austin242 Jul 27, 2013 5:05 PM

Hey did anyone see the 58 story tower advertisement at the bottom of the page? Is that a joke. It's supposed to be in midland. That better be a joke. If you're going to build a tower like that why would you build it in midland?:shrug::shrug:

corvairkeith Jul 27, 2013 5:15 PM

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Originally Posted by austin242 (Post 6212511)
Hey did anyone see the 58 story tower advertisement at the bottom of the page? Is that a joke. It's supposed to be in midland. That better be a joke. If you're going to build a tower like that why would you build it in midland?:shrug::shrug:

It was discussed on the last page.

JoninATX Jul 27, 2013 5:33 PM

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Originally Posted by austin242 (Post 6212511)
Hey did anyone see the 58 story tower advertisement at the bottom of the page? Is that a joke. It's supposed to be in midland. That better be a joke. If you're going to build a tower like that why would you build it in midland?:shrug::shrug:

It's no joke, they are going to build a 58 story mixed use tower in Midland. They already stated that the office portion of the tower is 40% leased.

KevinFromTexas Jul 27, 2013 5:39 PM

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Originally Posted by austin242 (Post 6212511)
Hey did anyone see the 58 story tower advertisement at the bottom of the page? Is that a joke. It's supposed to be in midland. That better be a joke. If you're going to build a tower like that why would you build it in midland?:shrug::shrug:

Here's the thread for it.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=204483

pscajunguy Jul 27, 2013 7:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 6212541)

Be careful with the cookie for that project. It will follow you around like a perpetual case of the mumps!:runaway::runaway:

Urbannizer Jul 29, 2013 3:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarMike (Post 6212096)
^^^I was going to guess Waterloo Park Tower

but it looks like their application expired on July 12.

I think you're right. A friend of mine sent someone over at Ziegler Cooper a message, wanting to know more about the one for Houston. She doesn't know much about that one but did say the one for Austin is 20-stories.

zedaref Jul 29, 2013 5:25 PM

Was looking at the ZaZa/Gables Republic Square site plan again and realized it was designed by Ziegler Cooper.

lzppjb Jul 30, 2013 10:50 PM

We might be seeing something announced for 5th & Brazos somewhat soon. Possibly a 50-story hotel/apartment combo.

Kotliz Jul 31, 2013 12:29 AM

New Building
 
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Originally Posted by lzppjb (Post 6215817)
We might be seeing something announced for 5th & Brazos somewhat soon. Possibly a 50-story hotel/apartment combo.

Are you talking about the lot to the north-east of the Frost Bank tower? What have you heard?

ahealy Jul 31, 2013 3:50 AM

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Originally Posted by lzppjb (Post 6215817)
We might be seeing something announced for 5th & Brazos somewhat soon. Possibly a 50-story hotel/apartment combo.

I won't hold my breath.

lzppjb Jul 31, 2013 11:33 AM

I'm excited to see how this develops, but yeah, don't hold your breath. It'll probably be longer than 3 minutes. :)


Kotliz, the info I posted was what I saw stated in public, so that's what I wanted to share. I'm not an insider. Someone who is in this line of work was just kind enough to throw that tidbit out there on another board unrelated to skyscrapers.

LoneStarMike Jul 31, 2013 1:01 PM

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Originally Posted by lzppjb (Post 6216359)
Kotliz, the info I posted was what I saw stated in public, so that's what I wanted to share.

I think I saw the post you are referring to.

Quote:

Magellan Corp from Chicago is about to announce plans for a 50 story apartments on top of two hotels (one budget, one premium) at 5th & Brazos.

BevoLJ Jul 31, 2013 1:39 PM

KUT has some cool pictures of possible intake designs for Seaholm. http://kutnews.org/post/slideshow-10...ake-structures

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net...Luis.09_AM.jpg

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net...ully.33_AM.jpg

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net...udio.10_AM.jpg

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net...orge.44_AM.jpg

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net..._MLA.40_AM.jpg

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net...ings.44_AM.jpg

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net...M_CS.03_AM.jpg

All pictures are from KUT http://kutnews.org/post/slideshow-10...ake-structures

Cloud92 Jul 31, 2013 5:33 PM

honestly the first one is my favorite

KevinFromTexas Jul 31, 2013 5:40 PM

I like whichever ones have a boardwalk and something that juts out into the water. I was also wondering if that could be a possible small music venue. Imagine sitting in your canoe/kayak watching a band play on the boardwalk stage. Of course, it would be pretty hot out on the water listening to a concert in the day time. And most people don't go out on the lake in a canoe or kayak after dark.

ATXboom Jul 31, 2013 6:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarMike (Post 6216405)
I think I saw the post you are referring to.

Magellen is no joke... they've put up a number of major apartment buildings.

lzppjb Jul 31, 2013 7:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneStarMike (Post 6216405)
I think I saw the post you are referring to.

Correct. The hotel brand was not disclosed yet. Let the speculation begin. What is Austin missing that has both a main & premium brand?

lzppjb Jul 31, 2013 7:26 PM

Here's a project Magellan has going in Minneapolis using Loewenberg Architects LLC. It's a 36-story apartment building called LPM Apartments.

http://www.mchughconstruction.com/ph...a75a518c5e.jpg

Project webcam: http://www.ibeamsystems.com/private/loringpark/

KevinFromTexas Jul 31, 2013 8:41 PM

^Here's the construction thread on that one.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=193500

They also did Aqua in Chicago.

http://www.magellandevelopment.com/w...10/02/Aqua.pdf

Here's the construction thread on that.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...highlight=aqua

GoldenBoot Jul 31, 2013 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 6217024)
^Here's the construction thread on that one.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=193500

They also did Aqua in Chicago.

http://www.magellandevelopment.com/w...10/02/Aqua.pdf

Here's the construction thread on that.
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...highlight=aqua

Aqua is one of my favorite high-rise's in the U.S.!!! However, everything seems to be dumbed-down for Austin. It would be really cool to see a developer finally step out and create something very modern and uniquely aesthetic for Austin's skyline.

The 82-story Aqua was completed in 2009 at a development cost of roughly $475 million ($300 million in construction costs). So, it may be doable here in Austin. Considering the development costs of the W Austin Hotel & Residences, the JW Marriott Austin, and the possible Fairmont Hotel Austin are/were all in excess of $300 million.

migol24 Aug 1, 2013 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenBoot (Post 6217103)
Aqua is one of my favorite high-rise's in the U.S.!!! However, everything seems to be dumbed-down for Austin. It would be really cool to see a developer finally step out and create something very modern and uniquely aesthetic for Austin's skyline.

That's not entirely true... the JW Marriott was actually originally very dumb looking. Not no more. Also, the Fairmont is going to look pretty slick. It's probably going to be my favorite tower once its finished. 311 Bowie is cool too. Anyway... you get the point.

ATXboom Aug 1, 2013 2:23 AM

Very excited that Magellan may invest in Austin. They do signature projects and are well connected to financing. They are a big boy development group. Smart of them to invest in ATX. The dynamics are right.

MightyYoda Aug 1, 2013 4:28 PM

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Originally Posted by migol24 (Post 6217271)
That's not entirely true... the JW Marriott was actually originally very dumb looking. Not no more. Also, the Fairmont is going to look pretty slick. It's probably going to be my favorite tower once its finished. 311 Bowie is cool too. Anyway... you get the point.


While we may not have top-tier architecture and I wish Austin had more historic buildings, we have a lot of great looking buildings for being a small city. Frost is still one of my favorite buildings and I think the Marriott will be up there. Weird to say considering its a hotel and I am not usually a fan of hotel designs. Also the granite congress buildings have a timeless appeal in my opinion and are great looking smaller office buildings.

I don't believe it is homerism either. I remember being wow'd by the aesthetic of our skyline when I returned to Austin in 2008 and my wife who isn't into skyscrapers has made comments about our buildings and skyline. She puts it as, "Austin might not have one of the biggest skylines, but it's one of the prettiest I have seen.".

wwmiv Aug 1, 2013 5:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ATXboom (Post 6217404)
Very excited that Magellan may invest in Austin. They do signature projects and are well connected to financing. They are a big boy development group. Smart of them to invest in ATX. The dynamics are right.

I'm rarely the person to urge caution, but this a simply a rumor flying around on a lowly message board started by a user who - although smart, capable, etc., has not been here very long - without any independent corroboration.

Settle down. If it happens, it happens. Great! But if it doesn't it won't be a big surprise.

The ATX Aug 1, 2013 5:28 PM

It was just a one sentence post by someone in the Downtown Projects thread (Page 12, post 561) in the Shaggybevo forum.

lzppjb Aug 1, 2013 5:34 PM

I agree that this isn't a guarantee. Just posting what I heard. I exchanged PM's with that poster after that statement was made. He posts on that board and thread quite a bit.

Breaking news isn't as fun if we just wait for a newspaper to print it. :D

MichaelB Aug 1, 2013 5:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenBoot (Post 6217103)
Aqua is one of my favorite high-rise's in the U.S.!!! However, everything seems to be dumbed-down for Austin. It would be really cool to see a developer finally step out and create something very modern and uniquely aesthetic for Austin's skyline.

The 82-story Aqua was completed in 2009 at a development cost of roughly $475 million ($300 million in construction costs). So, it may be doable here in Austin. Considering the development costs of the W Austin Hotel & Residences, the JW Marriott Austin, and the possible Fairmont Hotel Austin are/were all in excess of $300 million.

I LOVE that building.... it's also smart in that the plates are what is curved... .not the walls or glass! A very efficient design/cost way to get the effect of the building! Smart and cool!

The ATX Aug 1, 2013 5:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelB (Post 6218126)
I LOVE that building.... it's also smart in that the plates are what is curved... .not the walls or glass! A very efficient design/cost way to get the effect of the building! Smart and cool!

Wow. Michael B. finally loves a building! Even though it's not an Austin building. :)

ATXboom Aug 1, 2013 8:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lzppjb (Post 6218123)
I agree that this isn't a guarantee. Just posting what I heard. I exchanged PM's with that poster after that statement was made. He posts on that board and thread quite a bit.

Breaking news isn't as fun if we just wait for a newspaper to print it. :D

I'm not going to live or die if something happens or does not lol...

I heard years ago Ritz Carlton was looking into Austin... could it be a Marriott combo? Ritz + a low end or extended stay?

The ATX Aug 1, 2013 9:09 PM

I don't think it's financially possible for a "budget" hotel to be part of a 50-story building in Austin. I know the term "budget" is relative, and given Austin's downtown hotel rates, $300 may be considered cheap. But I can't help thinking the budget floors (say floors 10-20) of the building would be brown stucco while the rest of the building be some awesome glass color.

Kotliz Aug 1, 2013 10:57 PM

Construction Cams
 
Can anyone tell me where I can find more Austin construction camera feeds like the OxBlue JW Marriott and Skyhouse feeds?

wwmiv Aug 2, 2013 1:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Hill Country (Post 6218450)
I don't think it's financially possible for a "budget" hotel to be part of a 50-story building in Austin. I know the term "budget" is relative, and given Austin's downtown hotel rates, $300 may be considered cheap. But I can't help thinking the budget floors (say floors 10-20) of the building would be brown stucco while the rest of the building be some awesome glass color.

No... In this case, the residences and the upscale hotel will require the entire design to be extravagant if it pans out. They will basically subsidize the outside "look" of the building for the more budget hotel. It just means smaller rooms and more bare bones furnishing.

Also, "budget" in the downtown sense is entirely different from a motel which the common folk consider "budget".

GoldenBoot Aug 2, 2013 1:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ATXboom (Post 6218421)
...I heard years ago Ritz Carlton was looking into Austin... could it be a Marriott combo? Ritz + a low end or extended stay?

The Ritz has been considering Austin since the early '90's. Remember the plan to put a Ritz where the Cliffs at Barton Creek apartments are now (adjacent to Barton Creek Square Mall...north side facing downtown)? Maybe not...but, it was the case prior to the 1994 completion of the apartments.

GoldenBoot Aug 2, 2013 2:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wwmiv (Post 6218758)
No... In this case, the residences and the upscale hotel will require the entire design to be extravagant if it pans out. They will basically subsidize the outside "look" of the building for the more budget hotel. It just means smaller rooms and more bare bones furnishing.

Also, "budget" in the downtown sense is entirely different from a motel which the common folk consider "budget".

I think they may be thinking of a combination of hotels similar to LA Live. As mentioned previously, the Marriott brand has a JW Marriott and a Ritz Carlton in the same complex. Even though the JW is high-end product, it is not as high-end as a Ritz.

Just for argument sake, it could be something like one of the following combinations (should it be a large hotel chain):

Marriott Brands:
-A signature hotel (i.e., mainline Marriott) + a lifestyle hotel (i.e., EDITION, Autograph Collection, etc.)
-A signature hotel (i.e., mainline Marriott) + a iconic luxury hotel (i.e., Ritz Carlton)
*I do not think Austin will be getting the first Bulgari Hotel in the America's.

Starwood Brands:
-A signature brand (like a Sheraton or aloft) + a luxury brand (like a Luxury Collection hotel, St. Regis, or Le Meridien)

Hyatt Brands:
-A signature brand (i.e., a mainline Hyatt or another Hyatt Regency) + a luxury brand (i.e., Park Hyatt, Andaz, Grand Hyatt, etc.)

Hilton Brands:
-A signature brand (i.e., another Hilton or Doubletree) + a luxury brand (i.e., Conrad or Waldorf Astoria)

Carlson Rezidor Brands:
-A signature brand (i.e., another Radisson or a Park Plaza or Park Inn) + a luxury brand (i.e., Radisson Blu)

Wyndham Brands:
-A signature brand (i.e., Wyndham) + a luxury brand (i.e., Wyndham Grand)
NOTE: Wyndham also has hip brands like TRYP, Night and DREAM which would be fits in the Austin market.

audiomuse Aug 2, 2013 2:50 AM

Apartments under construction on N. Lamar (forgot the name of these)
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...ps9780dab4.jpg


More residences under construction on W. 51st St. across from the Austin State Hospital Cemetery in the North Loop area:
http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/k...ps0d555e44.jpg

zedaref Aug 2, 2013 3:58 AM

Lamar Camden Heights and Waller Creekside Apartments on 51st.

Does anyone know anything about something happening on the SW corner of North Loop and Lamar? I believe I saw something at one point and I think it was called North Lamar Lofts with Post as the developer but I've not been able to find anything.

corvairkeith Aug 2, 2013 4:11 AM

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Originally Posted by zedaref (Post 6218969)

Does anyone know anything about something happening on the SW corner of North Loop and Lamar? .

Are you talking about the Austin Vacuum building? I had heard that was going to be a Taco Cabana. Although I haven't heard anything lately.

zedaref Aug 2, 2013 5:15 AM

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Originally Posted by corvairkeith (Post 6218982)
Are you talking about the Austin Vacuum building? I had heard that was going to be a Taco Cabana. Although I haven't heard anything lately.

Well, I've figured some things out. Not sure why I didn't think to look there sooner, but it's in the City's Emerging Projects PDF. They're calling it the Uptown Apartments, so I'm not sure where I'm getting the Post North Lamar Lofts from. It isn't exactly on the corner: the yellow shaded lots are owned by the same company, J17 Fortune, with the green owned by someone else.

http://i.imgur.com/LM8SnsI.png

186 units

Mopacs Aug 2, 2013 5:42 PM

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Originally Posted by corvairkeith (Post 6218982)
Are you talking about the Austin Vacuum building? I had heard that was going to be a Taco Cabana. Although I haven't heard anything lately.

The foundation is already taking shape at the site... appears to be the size of a typical Taco Cabana.

The ATX Aug 2, 2013 6:05 PM

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Originally Posted by wwmiv (Post 6218758)
No... In this case, the residences and the upscale hotel will require the entire design to be extravagant if it pans out. They will basically subsidize the outside "look" of the building for the more budget hotel. It just means smaller rooms and more bare bones furnishing.

Also, "budget" in the downtown sense is entirely different from a motel which the common folk consider "budget".

Did you really think I was serious about some of the floors being brown stucco? LOL Mr Serious.

wwmiv Aug 2, 2013 6:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hill Country (Post 6219641)
Did you really think I was serious about some of the floors being brown stucco? LOL Mr Serious.

The rest of your comment was serious and the statement flowed logically from the rest of the comment, so yes... I did.

NYC_Longhorn Aug 4, 2013 4:33 PM

WOW! Aqua is AMAZING! Like a better version of a Gehry building!!! Please build something like that in Austin!!!!!

JoninATX Aug 6, 2013 10:02 PM

Physician-owned hospital breaks ground in Austin

http://impactnews.com/downloads/2017...arkAustin2.jpg

www.impactnews.com

N90 Aug 8, 2013 7:35 AM

Water Park/Adventure Park

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/ne...waterpark.html

N90 Aug 8, 2013 9:14 PM

Just said this in the Houston thread.

MORE INFILL. MOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Start announcing projects every single day Austin!


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