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This site is cursed. Vignette? 21C? How many iterations of Waller Park Place? Now this one...for the record I wouldn't throw this proposal out of bed in the morning. Call me when they start digging.

Agree, AND...the pinnacle of the crown is an interesting place to put a pipe organ. I can't say I'm a big fan of the brick pattern, and its hard to get a floor count or the scope of the height when the floors are sectioned off 2 floors at a time. Like 6X, this is another tower stacked on another tower. Only this is a bit more obvious with the 70 Rainey stilt thing going on, twice. I'm not a hater by any means, its just....when we talk about this monumental milestone, our tallest building in Austin, this is what we'll be talking about. That being said, if I can like 405, I'll probably learn to like this too. Whether or not it gets built, at least we are still getting new proposals and renderings. It keeps things interesting.

The interaction with the waterfront does it for me, and the height is cool, especially if it's a supertall. But I feel like I need to see better renderings of the tower portion before I fall in love with it.

It is KPF so we are in good hands. This is a cool building that shares some resemblance: https://www.kpf.com/projects/18-robinson

Great comp. Singapore has a lot of great green buildings.

The developer did do a good job of making the water blue and attractive...

Well, talk about a twist. 240 key 5-Star hotel... I wonder who the operator is? When WPP was first proposed, the prospect of a trio of towers was exciting but Austin has become notably more dense since then. At this point, stacking the programs into a legit super tall is a very pleasant surprise.

I love how it functions on the lot and with the creek as far as site layout. This will be a really nice gateway between Cesar Chavez and then the Rainey District, sort of like the notch in between. It’s going to be incredibly prominent where it’s positioned, especially if The Travis is in limbo and it stands on its own for a bit.

Color me skeptical about a 5 star hotel. I think hotels will be legit investments again by the time this gets built... but I’m not sure Austin’s really ready for a 5er quite yet.

Atlanta has a very unusual downtown. It seems very stretched out and long. Welcome to Austin. Check out my youtube page. https://www.youtube.com/user/partyboyrrock . The group I am in we just released a video on the Mueller area and in the next few days we will be releasing a new video based on South Congress.

Thanks. Wasn't sure if it was that lot or the one with the former condos on it.

This design is really interesting. It reminds me of what 44 East is doing with its interiors under Michael Hsu. It has an “earthy” tone and I like how the staggered beams go from the base, appear again at the amenity level, and then at the top with the crown. This gives the building strong continuity. I’m not sure what the orange-brown material is that breaks up the glass but it provides rhythm to the fenestration and prevents it from being a generic glass high rise. Overall, it’s a tower that I feel will play up more than the renderings if the materials are top-notch. I’m curious if the orange-brown sections are sealed wood. To bring the nature of the creek up into the sky would be a nice look. It definitely has an Asian design — a big boy global building, like what you might see in Shanghai.

For sure has an Asian global city vibe! Good call AGV.

I find the tower on top of tower building typology to be an interesting 21st-century solution that Austin could spearhead as its downtown grows taller. It keeps the building busy 24/7 by mixing up the uses - residential, office, hotel. The programs are visually and physically broken up by those grand "sky lobbies" that have great outdoor amenity spaces with incredible views. And in this day and age where office space may be less desired in the coming years as more people opt to work from home, it may be the only way tall towers are built in the future. I say keep 'em coming.

So far as Asian, this feels like Kuala Lumpur or Singapore to me more than China - only because the topical, natural feel of those two cities due to their geography and how it has influenced their architecture. Bangkok has some of this as well. Many of their new developments and buildings have a lot of open air spaces and greenery.

I'm excited to see this one happen and am hopeful it's close to the rendering that we have now.

"74th (floor) features a residential amenity space."


Easily the best residential amenity space in Texas

Maybe. As of their February 2020 listing, The Post Oak Hotel at Uptown (Houston) and Hotel Emma (San Antonio) are the only AAA 5-Diamond hotels in Texas. Additionally, Forbes 2021 Travel Guide ranks The Post Oak Hotel at Uptown (Houston) and The Ritz-Carlton (Dallas) as the only 5-Star hotels in Texas.

Again...not to be nitpick here...but, HAIF listed the height at 1,474' MSL. Thus, this baby would be closer to 1,066' tall. :)

Not that confirmation is needed, but Towers confirmed this is a "supertall" with a rep from Lincoln:

We’ve confirmed with Seth Johnston, a senior vice president for Lincoln’s Austin office, that the details of the tower posted online and seen here are “relatively accurate” and generally reflect the developers’ plans for the site — and although the project’s exact height isn’t entirely clear, Johnston also confirms that the building will indeed qualify as a “supertall” tower of 984 feet (300 meters) or taller.

https://austin.towers.net/downtown-a...er-creek-site/

Ok, so based on the first picture on the Towers Page, I'm liking the design a bit more, from that angle and perspective. If this is added, and with 6X, our tallest buildings will be really spaced out from each other. I don't think any other US city would compare to this kind of spread with their tallest. I don't know which project this pertained to, I think 6X, but didn't the FAA poo poo their plans for going taller. This would be even closer to the port. Could they step in and say nfw?

The FAA never limited the height of 6xG. We had a disjointed discussion across multiple threads that I started (unfortunately)about FAA height limits in Austin. I think things got even more confused/misinterpreted after discussions wrapped up.

I must be thinking of a different Atlanta, the one with the BoA Plaza, my overall favorite, SunTrust Plaza, One Atlantic Center, Peachtree Tower, and another favorite because its round, the Westin Peachtree Plaza Hotel, plus almost forty, 400+ towers, eleven of which are over 600'. I've been to Atlanta and because of that one visit, I love the downtown skyline, food, sports teams and the State of Georgia in general. So I have to assume you were presenting, tongue in cheek. You have a ton of skyscrapers that I consider signature towers and can only wish we had more of here. Glad to have you moving here, in fact proud you chose here, but don't look in your rearview mirror when you leave Atlanta, you might decide to stay. I would be happy with ANY one of your top ten over this proposed tower. If we are drooling over the design because its a super tall, its like me going to a football game because I love football, but don't really care for either team playing like when my wife makes me take her to a Longhorn game. It lessens the enthusiasm somewhat. I can't root for this tower because it so tall, but I won't shoot it down either. Its just not what I envision our first and maybe only supertall should look like. Just me I suppose.