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What does a hurricane have to do with relative building heights? That doesn't even make any sense. |
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Well, it actually does. Look what happened to One57. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/09/re...ewanted=2&_r=1 Looking Down on the Empire State By JULIE SATOW June 7, 2013 Quote:
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The above citation is no more than a 50-50 split of somewhat decontextualized journalism and sheer conjecture whose combined main points have been argued ad nauseam here.
We get what we get with final height figures; and come the next superstorm that barrels through MidTown Manhattan, we get what we get if any damage occurs. Now someone help me get this overbludgeoned horse corpse out of the way. :) |
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Extell said the height for 225 W57th has not been finalized. They never said that hurricanes will determine the height of 225 W 57. And hurricanes had nothing to do with One57's height. Are you referring to the dangling crane following the hurricane? That is the only relevant link between One57 and Sandy. What I'm wondering, though, is why you think hurricanes would impact building height. |
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I am not saying hurricanes determine height of the building. I was referring to NY Times article and the damaged crane on One57 after Sandy. The article states that Mr. Barnett might take this incident into consideration when determining final height of the tower. That's it. I just hope they will not make this building shorter, whatever the reason. |
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Let's just say that the design isn't final, and we'll get more specifics when the design is revealed. For now, it is what it is. |
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It won't matter that much for the east-west views, as the buildings are not that wide. Look at the sample views from 432 Park (at the building website) of various elevations to see what I mean. And wherever the tower of 225 W 57th is placed on its plot, neither building would block the other's view of the Park, which is paramount. But I do think that Extell will try to place the tower portion of 225 W 57th more towards 58th Street, as this would somewhat alleviate the loss of Park views due to the construction of 220 CPS, which is currently listed as 577 feet. Barnett knows that 220 CPS is coming eventually, so this is a reason for him to go for maximum height on 225 W 57. Right now, if the 1,550-foot figure turns out to be indeed be the height of the highest occupied floor, Extell would have 973 feet of occupy-able space above the 577-foot height of 220 CPS (minus any part of 220 CPS above the listed height, such as mechanical floors or an architectural cap). |
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My guess is that 220 CPS will be very tall and thin, since that's what all the towers are doing in that part of Manhattan. I would expect it to be comparable in height to the other towers. |
How tall?
I read an article in Icon magazine about Adrian Smith, who said that the height of 225 West 57th Street would be 366m, not the original 472m.
Have any official rendering actually been released yet? |
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^ Nice update...
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Meanwhile, demo permit has been filed for the final piece, the Beethoven Pianos building... http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Jo...ssdocnumber=01 Quote:
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Anyway, here are the plans again for a Nordstrom that could have been built, of similar size and layout... http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5204/...6dc29cfa_b.jpg http://massforma.com/arch/nordstrom-tower/ Quote:
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Anyway, it would be a shame if this building is reduced from 1,550 to 1,200 ft. However, at this point, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. |
The actual Nordstrom store will be 280'+ tall, so it will be about the same size as the adjacent building; I'd be surprised if there were setbacks for the store itself. It's going to be enormous.
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I always had a sneaking suspicion 1550 was too tall for NYC. :shrug:
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That would be first 1500+ footer in NYC, almost too good to be true. |
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