That would be terrible. This is a University of Texas arena first and foremost. People shouldn't lose sight of that fact. They can't fill the current arena with students/fans. They sure as hell better not build a new arena even further away from campus or it'll never have a chance at filling up with students, rail or not.

That's beside the point. They need an arena, and none of the above options are realistic. This is literally the closest they could possibly get within reason.

I think it's more likely they tear down buildings on campus to build an arena than it is to build that far away.

They don't have anything they can tear down that is of sufficient geographic spread to fit a new stadium.

I think they could fit a 10k arena where Gregory is easy. If not then how about we get rid of Jester? The ugliest building I've ever seen. :D

Y'all....all this talk about arenas is making me sooooo tired :slob::slob::slob::slob:

Any news on ...anything other than an arena?

Isn't Jester a revenue source for UT, though? I'm sure it's not free to stay there, and since it is one of the few large dorms, it would take another big building like Callaway House or 2400 Nueces at least to replace it. But then it's a matter of where to put it. UT doesn't own land in West Campus do they?

5/11
 

Corazon.

http://i.imgur.com/OSeQL4N.jpg

Hyatt Regency Ballroom and parking garage rendering:

http://i.imgur.com/E8X3I3d.jpg

Gables Park Plaza II

http://i.imgur.com/uSgJpNG.jpg

View from the pedestrian bridge.

http://i.imgur.com/0zvsJKd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vnp8w9d.jpg

2400 Nueces

http://i.imgur.com/wLcLIqy.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/eQM8nb9.jpg

Callaway House

http://i.imgur.com/vaQPIw7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DcXCFG3.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/yDhwxhk.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YcyWat5.jpg

As Kevin has pointed out previously, there would be plenty of land south of Memorial Stadium if some of those buildings were replaced.

Is it possible an arena ends up in some ridiculous area far from campus? Yes. Would I, or most Longhorn fans, like it? No.

Why would there be so many cars parked in this area? I can't think of anything in that immediate area that would be such a draw.

http://i.imgur.com/OSeQL4N.jpg

^^ Hope Farmers Market maybe?

Having been a season ticket holder since the opening of the drum I have first hand knowledge of how low the student attendance is at the games. It's not the student's fault though. UT cares about one thing and that is making money. The entire lower level is sold out with season ticket holders so they don't have any interest in providing better seating for the students which would improve the game day experience. They will build a new arena when and where is benefits them the most.

I have heard that it will not be on campus and that it will be a joint effort with the COA. However, I agree they should remodel Gregory and create an atmosphere like Duke has at Cameron Indoor.

I imagine a new arena will be built in a location that benefits both UT and the COA so near the convention center seems like a logical location.

Seeing how fast the new medical school has progressed I imagine the drum will be razed within five years to make room for the medical campus expansion.

All of the people who work in all of the businesses across the street park there. I know this because my father used to work for 501 Post before it shut down (which was across the street - he parked there, ofcourse). None of them have dedicated parking.

I guess some of those cars are there for the market, which I'm not familiar with. As wwmiv mentioned, I do know there are offices in the three buildings that are nearest to I-35. My brother works in the building across Brushy Street from 501 Studios, and he usually parks in that parking lot. Those offices are pretty neat. They're old buildings from the 30s that have sort of been reconditioned for office space. I guess they were originally warehouse space because they didn't look like they had been designed for offices originally.

That pic is a good example of what I mean if you look there is nothing south of the commuter rail line and it is a good amount of space that could fit an arena. Its not that close to the neighborhoods and the noise from a concert would not go beyond the walls of the arena. Have you heard a concert thats going on within the Erwin Center outside?

South Shore Redevelopment
 

I just grabbed the screen captures from the KVUE story. The link at the end of the story should take us to the plans but I could not find them so this was better than nothing.
http://www.kvue.com/news/local/Resid...207305811.html

http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/...ps31347669.jpg

http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/...ps7d96fca4.jpg

http://i1323.photobucket.com/albums/...ps43d4e7f3.jpg

Interesting. Hopefully, the highrises don't all look alike like they do in that 3rd rendering.

That bridge is cool, though.

I took some pictures at Mueller today. There's a lot going on there right now. I'll make a post on the Mueller thread about it. But here's how the Austin Children's Museum is coming along. This thing stands out so much in that neighborhood due to its color. I sort of feel like another color (blue, maybe) would have been better. Maybe it will look better once they get some trees and stuff in there.

http://i.imgur.com/HOeRJR0h.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HKzzQjTh.jpg

I went to that presentation last night and posted a few more of the renderings that were on display in this post

There was something in the Austin Business Journal about that a few days ago.

Lennar plans six new home communities in Austin area

You know The Callaway House is not turning out so bad. I'm really liking the red brink for some reason.

Nice scoop on Green moving forward DAB!
http://downtownaustinblog.org/

:):):) I just hope the design changes a little bit for those two tall ones.

Oh hell yeah.

:banana: :dancing: :awesome: :cucumber: :apple: :pepper: :fruit: :leek:

It's interesting that they're submitting a site plan for that one first. And that they're only submitting one. I wonder what the method is for developing this many buildings so close together. Do they do one at a time or all at once? Either way, I'm excited.

I think this suggests they're doing one at a time.

Woot. :)

I could agree with holding off on the hotel and office building, but I think not doing both residential blocks at once would be a mistake. With current migration and occupancy rates, you pretty much can't overbuild.

Holding off on hotels would be prudent to see how the current projects further along are absorbed and between 3rd and Colorado, IBC, and Whole Foods, a 500k office building would take a while to get leased.

As a whole design wise, the material choice and colors of the latest renders leave something to be desired. I guess it will tie into Seaholm, but overall new render is the worst yet. Not Hyatt bad by any means, but I would have a hard time deciding between the Whitley or any of these for the meh award. Actually Whitley has grown on me largely because of the stone work on the bottom. I will hold judgement until more renders are released.

Agrred. I love Gensler, but this current design is nothing compared to the MITHUN plan (that was originally chosen). If something is gonna block 360 it better be pretty damn good lookin!

I like the buildings, I just wish they were a little taller, but I guess it doesn't matter. I do echo your sentiment, though. 360 is one of my favorite buildings in Austin. I really like it. It just looks so damn cool from the south. Whatever blocks the view of it, it better be worth it and even better than 360.

I wish these towers were being planned for the post office/IBC Bank lots instead.

Yeah, I agree. They aren't bad lookin at all, I just think 360 is way better as a front statement skyline piece. Those two are just big white boxes.

Oh thank god. :fireworks:

I really like the current design, I think it beefs up the density of downtown, both at skyline and street level. If they wind up changing it, I'll get used to it I'm sure (especially if it's better still), but I couldn't stand to see Seaholm get off the ground and not this.

Thrilling times in this great city. :cheers:

Can someone post Renderings of Green?

Here is CBRE's marketing flyer which has both the old renderings (on the cover) and the new renderings (inside):

http://www.loopnet.com/Attachments/8...4E75FA53F3.pdf

Here's the link to the thread that has many of the renderings posted:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=144389

[QUOTE=AusTxDevelopment;6132057]Here is CBRE's marketing flyer which has both the old renderings (on the cover) and the new renderings (inside):

http://www.loopnet.com/Attachments/8...4E75FA53F3.pdf



That is such an elegant collection of buildings. I like how they all have their own vibe yet work together. I do hope they all get their crowns! For me, that is the touch that will be really nice!

Just build them all already!

Dense, Tall Downtown Development Might Be Dead!?!
 

Once again, our faithful idiots at City Hall finally got rid of CURE zoning in an additional effort to secure more money for affordable housing. Say goodbye to dense, tall, downtown development!!?!!

http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/bl...-the-ddbp.html

I hope this can be overturned when the new, 10-1 council takes over. I'm worried about the adverse affects this is going to cause new developments in our CBD.

DDBP is not great and it will have a chilling effect, but it's not the death knell everyone thinks. Those multi-million dollar numbers everyone keeps throwing around are the MAXIMUM the City can get under DDBP. Everything is negotiable and the City is not going to get the maximum every time. To hold fast on that would indeed put an end to dense development. That's not what the city wants.

Austin's starting to bite the hand that feeds it like some California cities.

The laissez-faire rhetoric here is suffocating. Stop with the hyperbole. Our government's job is to serve us, not Big Business. Developers aren't what give Austin value. Our people and culture are what give Austin value. If developers want to play ball, they have to play by our rules. No more of this corrupt sidestepping crap. Though they may not realize it at first, the density bonus program actually provides value to developers by insuring that Austin remains a unique and healthy place, rather than some yuppie utopia with no culture or diversity.

Stop with the Occupy B.S. It's both people and business that give Austin value. People move where the jobs (business) are more than anything else. Big business provides jobs, and most people work for corporations. Having a job improves one's quality of life. Big Business is not evil.

This isn't Occupy mentality. The fact that you think it is betrays your very simplistic assumptions about political groups.

Well, that alone isn't an occupy mentality. It's basic social democracy. I don't blame corporate types. I just don't buy the idea that the profit motive alone is going to lead to a satisfactory standard of living for the vast majority of human beings. And I don't think that Big Business deserves to have influence over our government. That's not starry-eyed idealism. It's just about being a principled social democrat.

Businesses move to Austin because our culture is enticing. If any type of business is somewhat responsible for that, it's small business, for whom many Americans and Austinites work.

There's no need for name-calling. Big Business is not evil, but they are often misguided, because profit is not the only worthy end. The welfare of our citizenry is always the most important thing.

Hey whenever you guys have a forum meet, do you guys get into these "heated" political discussions?

Couldn't have put it better myself.

I agree with you. Austin is not always going to be the hot city, and putting up more and more roadblocks to dense projects in the central city will come back to haunt us.

Now, if there were sensible FAR ratios already in place in this city, and a developer wanted to exceed those limits I could maybe sympathize with this new density bonus program. Probably not, but I would at least be more sympathetic. However, forcing developers of projects to jump through hoops, and make their venture even more difficult to succeed, to simply build at more than 8:1 FAR seems ludicrous.

Just want to throw this out there but Austin is now in the final four to host the X-Games in the summer as they leave Southern California for 2014-2015-2016. Other cities in the final four are Chicago, Charlotte, and Detroit.

You heard it here first! YEAHHHHHH!!!!

http://www.statesman.com/news/busine...owntown/nXzY4/

Austin's big year is going pretty much according to plan!

Major downtown projects currently (or about to be) under construction:

JW Marriott
Skyhouse
3eleven
7Rio
Seaholm
Colorado Tower
IBC Bank Plaza
The Catherine
Gables Park Plaza II
New Central Library
Hyatt ballroom and garage

And maybe pretty soon, Block 1 of GreenWater.

Truly exciting times in bat city. :cheers:

You forgot Fairmont, which I believe is almost certainly going to happen.

Also Hotel Van Zandt and Westin are supposed to break ground soon, and if we're really lucky the Fairmont as well. Shoal Creek Walk is a possibility as well.

3rd and Colorado
 

It's already fenced off...took this earlier today. PS. Y'all need to check out all the new trees on Colorado. It has truly changed that part of downtown. It used to look so shitty and dirty.
http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/...psb5da1d0f.jpg

I only included projects that are U/C right now or are almost certain to start in the next few days/weeks. I'll love it if I'm able to add those other ones to the list.