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Today's Wall Street Journal has an article call the "L.A. Noir Tour" which features many of the noir haunts of the city's past. It even has an interactive map of some of the best noir spots to visit.
Here it is: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...Tabs%3Darticle |
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But then, if architectural homogeneity is a motivator, wouldn't the same be arguable for Irvine? I may be proven wrong, but will we mourn Tustin so when it's erased come 2050? (Of Bunker Hill's allure there are no quick answers, but at least the road to understanding her is paved with enormous pleasure. However bittersweet it may be.) |
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However, I am happy to say that this movie star of a building is in more than just Brasher Doubloon (post #1930). Having done a bunch of shot examinations of The Turning Point back on pp. 69-70, here's another one: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5126/...28b97598_b.jpg Ed Begley walks into the Hotel Gladden, 102 S Olive: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5003/...1305bc27_b.jpg Here's William Holden checking out the scene: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5208/...58a31533_b.jpg But where's he checking out the scene FROM? Good question! Kitty-corner, there was a market in the apartment building at 501 W 1st/103 N Olive. It's obscured a bit by this mother and daughter -- http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5130/...2decd60b_b.jpg Hylen, Cal State Lib, http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibr...JQJXH173PA.jpg ...and of course one thing leads to another... ...so here's that market in better detail, October 09, 1951. Oh, still partially obscured... http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5169/...f04564c4_b.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5088/...c8e5fed3_b.jpg http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/search...=1292043519751 |
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http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4074/...6998e81f_b.jpg the st. mark (corner of 1st and olive) is on the far right, just above center. B Man! thank you so much for posting the images from the turning point, i was never quite sure where that building was that holden tailed begley to. i always thought the corner shop where holden knows the storekeeper was filmed at the store at grand and third in the nugent, but now i know that it's actually pollinger's market at 1st and olive! |
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http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5010/...c8e198c5_z.jpg Weird. It's the Cecil in the 1906 Sanborn map, the St. Mark in the 1909 Birdseye, the Gladden in the 1922 Baist's Atlas. My copy is pretty crummy but as he gets out of the car you can just make out the "Olive Court" gun street sign behind him; I just noticed that for the first time as I was putting this together... |
So much good stuff on here lately. Thought I'd contribute some new material...fire up the old scanner and dig around for motels that caught my eye as being particularly...evocative.
Because I love motels. I love the people who work there, who eye you with that mix of distrust, disinterest, and disgust. That first cold blast of the clamorous, rattling A/C. Thin towels, disinfectant, getting to know the other long-termers. Won't even go into the beds, that is, discuss them. Here are some motels 'round town: First off, the Town Motel: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5128/...732c3600_o.jpg Really nice International/Streamline. Dig the lone car. (Also see the even more imperious http://www.flickr.com/photos/zilf/2949669127/ ) Another streamline -- http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5083/...7139c468_b.jpg "Beautiful" is code word for "oil derrick". That towers over. http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5210/...97922d1a_b.jpg ...in case you're checking your Google Street, we're 0 for 3. However, this one still stands: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5165/...9062c967_b.jpg http://www.flickr.com/photos/thomashawk/4842549732/ http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5287/...a95b8aaf_b.jpg Should we assume "Back" means "on your"? The Sun Motel: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5167/...ec800824_b.jpg Deco masterpiece The Sun has had some work done, but looks more bleak, in this one http://www.flickr.com/photos/zilf/1118714044/ ...but look at the cars. The card where they have the addition and improved signage appears to predate this image by a good ten years. Uh-huh. Though no sun shall enter http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5128/...5d701cc4_b.jpg ...where at Vine Lodge -- 1818 N Vine -- the patio is forever empty and shadowed. (At least it's still extant.) (Though the back of the card reads "All rooms cross ventilated, insuring constant fresh air." Needless to say, Vine Lodge has since been hemmed in by massive developments.) http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5282/...6cc1b278_b.jpg 5154 Sunset -- "Largest Motel in Hollywood -- 125 Rooms -- 35 Kitchens." They've blocked up the arch, but everything is still back there: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5087/...c2bf5f69_b.jpg And now, my favorite of the set -- http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5088/...78565a3f_b.jpg Not only because it's the greatest image of all time (Tick Tock Motel -- just seems to connote "Because Your Time is Running Out!"), but because it still looks basically just like this. Granted, it's been painted beige, and the neon is gone (and so are the cars) but all its streamline trimmings are there and the giant Cargill Foods grain silo still looms o'er. |
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Beaudry-- That was one of my favorite posts yet. I might add to your list of thin towels, smell of disinfectant etc, those gas wall heaters with ceramic crosshatched burners.... and of course I couldn't resist driving around town via Google Street View. It turns out that the La Brea Towers does still stand--note the window pattern and roofline of the Summit Motel at the same address. It still has its tower although it's now a billboard rather than a derrick. (I love the idea that someone might have imagined a glamorous highrise before arriving at the the La Brea Towers Hotel....) http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...24539%20PM.jpg Summit Motel nee La Brea Towers Hotel, 5005 S. La Brea The Paradise is still The Paradise. And it even has a great "new" sign: http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...81926%20AM.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...82003%20AM.jpg Don't you hope Paradise is like this? 1116 Sunset The Sun Motel seems to have been replaced, building and all, by an America's Best Value Inn. But the house to its left remains: http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...21704%20PM.jpg 5265 Sunset The Vine Lodge--same name, same place: http://lh6.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...23506%20PM.jpg 1818 N. Vine The Nity-Nite (my favorite name) is now the Copacabana Inn. And it's still eminently respectable--weekly specials are available, but there is no mention here of hourly rates. http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...22100%20PM.jpg 5316 S. Figueroa And the Tick-Tock--another great name (even if a little odd and perhaps suggestive). As you say, it's still there with the silo above. It doesn't seem to be receiving guests any longer, however. http://lh6.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...22724%20PM.jpg 1444 S. Atlantic Blvd., East Los Angeles All photos via Google Street View |
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I like how the derrick in the far distance is basically replaced by a cell phone tower: http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5210/...97922d1a_z.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5123/...6c01f0ee_z.jpg Oh, the times, they are a-changin'. And the Sun is apparently still with us -- sort of -- http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5167/...ec800824_z.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5046/...8307c43c_z.jpg The tower, the basic fenestration, the slight hint of the filled-in door (if you do a close-up on Google Street at the Copacabana, you can see where they "filled in" the Nity-Nite entry)...as is true with so many motels around town, it's had some sort of "Tuskan" makeover. Glad you liked the post, I certainly had fun doing it! It's about time I put my years of fetishism to some good use. There'll be more... |
Amazing motel postcard pics. I realize that I drive by some of those all the time.
I thought I'd do a then and now. Or rather, a then, then and now. Santa Ana/San Bernardino Fwy merge east of downtown LA, circa 1950-1951 (?). Notice the PE tracks and tunnel. I believe the PE stopped running here in 1950. Or was it '51? Hmm. http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/6241/19511953.jpg USC Archive Santa Ana/San Bernardino Fwy merge east of downtown LA, circa 1955. What I found odd was the long overpass, because I don't remember it ever existing... http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/3307/1955f.jpg USC Archive Santa Ana/San Bernardino Fwy merge east of downtown LA, December 11, 2010. See, no overpass. I can't think of where it went from/to. Might anyone know? And might anyone know when it was knocked down, and why? Also in this pic, I see a few of the old lamp posts still exist. http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/224/p1150633g.jpg Photo by me |
You can add this to the motel list, on Alvarado St south of MacArthur Park. I thought the sign was neat, reminded me of the early sixties. Had I known about this thread, I would have gotten a picture of the building.
http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...10part1256.jpg Not a motel, but I thought this sign was pretty neat also (geez, I'm talking like Beaver Cleaver). I could be wrong, but I thought the sign had to be old. I couldn't see new money being put into this McDonalds. The neighborhood was a little rough. http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...10part1269.jpg |
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Speaking of the Sun...can't get enough of that one... http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5002/...2065ddc3_b.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5043/...dc2f1a8c_b.jpg |
going airborne over hollywood
1938 view looking east up hollywood boulevard towards barnsdall park
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...30-9-ISLA?v=hr source: USC Digital Archives http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...30-9-ISLA?v=hr 1937 aerial looking north east towards los feliz http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...30-1-ISLA?v=hr Source: USC Digital Archives http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...30-1-ISLA?v=hr 1938 aerial looking south east towards downtown http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...30-8-ISLA?v=hr Source: USC Digital Archives http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...30-8-ISLA?v=hr 1918 aerial looking north from highland and sunset http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-10041?v=hr Source: USC Digital Archives http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-10041?v=hr 1926 aerial looking north http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-35266?v=hr Source: USC Digital Archives http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/assets...CHS-35266?v=hr |
^^^Great then/then/after sopas_ej. Beautiful aerials gsjansen.
Beaudry, your motel scans were great! I hope you have many more to share with us. Here are some examples I have in my files. http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2...sandslodge.jpg ebay http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/8...andslodge2.jpg ebay Below: Stillwell's Auto Hotel, 2 miles east of the new Union Station. http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/633...llsautomot.jpg ebay |
This is my favorite.
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/7...tel1136nla.jpg ebay Below: Contemporary photos of the Crown Motel.....nothing seems to have changed at all. http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/9...telisstill.jpg walterworld http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/3...ownmotel2a.jpg walterworld http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4...tel1awalte.jpg walterworld http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5...rownmotel3.jpg walterworld http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6...rownmotel4.jpg walterworld |
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http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5202/...70ddb9b5_z.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5126/...de05d8c4_z.jpg Couldn't find anything in Proquest on the overpass other than this, Dec. 2, 1953 -- http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5283/...f2cc6497_o.jpg -- a viaduct with verve! "Adequacy of this width remains to be seen." Guess it wasn't so adequate. I know there are freeway experts out there who'll know a thing or three about this one... |
The picture of the gas tanks reminded me of the scene in "The Best Years of Our Lives" when Dana Andrews meets Theresa Wright at the lunch counter with the tanks in the background.
Here's where Theresa Wright lived with her parents,Fredric March and Myrna Loy. The apartment building is on Beverly between LaBrea and Highland. There was scaffolding covering two sides of the building so this was the best view I could get - this year. http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...10part1279.jpg |
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http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5086/...c22c9b53_o.jpg (Just for the record, the Paradise was also 1946, the Vine Lodge 1942, Nitey-Nite is 1947; La Brea Towers and the former Tick Tock are "off the grid" when it comes to Zimas.) |
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"To visit a list of cases that took place in Los Angeles we dug up a site called 1947 project [sic] which lists an enormous number of criminal cases that took place in the city during that period of time..." -- glad to see someone got some use out of it! http://www.gameguru.in/action/2010/2...-life-murders/ |
Bumper crop of goodies
Those vintage Motel postcard scans are a dream. Thanks! More please! (Wish I knew how to scan and post some of my postcards.) My favorite is that Sunset Bungalow Motel Court at 5154 Sunset. A classic 40's shot). Vine Lodge sounds very familiar...In singer Rosemary Clooney's bio, "Girl Singer" she wrote that when she and her sister Betty first arrived in Hollywood in 1947, traveling with a big band, they stayed at the Vine Lodge. She said it was "where all the bands stayed." It was very near the huge Palladium on Sunset, "Hollywood's Premier Dancing and Dining Spot in the Heart of Hollywood," where the top big bands played.
The Bunker Hill photos were a great treat too. I'm still trying to hunt down info on what was definitely called "Normandie Village" or "Old Normandie Village" apts on the Sunset Strip., described as "a picturesque jumble of peaked roofs, jagged chimneys and meandering walkways from Hollywood's old party days." (LA Times) 1962). Came across this photo (scroll down) of "Normandy Village, Hollywood 1928," but it looks like a recent photo. so not sure of its connection to the old Normandie or Normandy Village which was razed in the 60's. http://www.preservenet.com/archtime/ArchTime.html Also, here's a blog with good photos about "French Hollywood" architecture. http://doves2day.blogspot.com/2010/1...hollywood.html So that French style apt. house on Beverly is the one featured in "The Best Years of Our Lives." Very interesting. |
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I'm now wondering how a driver today would transition from the westbound 10 to the southbound 101, if that's even possible to do now... |
I live in the building at the top of this 1924 photo of Main Street in Culver City. Now it has a 1980's stucco facade.
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Ah OK. So I guess if you did want to get to points just east of the LA River from the 10, say, just west of White Memorial, you'd just have to get off the freeway a little east of there. I rarely drive through that area on the freeway; being that I live in South Pasadena, I just take the 110 or even just surface streets to get to downtown. |
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I remember this place! It was south of the SB Fwy just past Soto St. It vanished after the freeway was widened there in the mid-'70s... -Scott |
i apologize in advance for making everyone have to scroll on this photo, due to it's size, however, this is definitely an image that needs to be seen full size to truly appreciate. it is a screen capture from the 1921 harold lloyd thrill comedy, Never Weaken apparently some hopped up developer is building a large steel framed skyscraper on top of the hill street tunnel, (wonder how they worked the piling's around the hollywood in and out-bound P&E tracks??!!??). I just realized that the building behind harrold lloyd is not the cecil, st. mark, gladden....(whatever), that i first identified it as, ..........it's actually a building on olive court next to the moorecliff with a nifty rear exit on to hill street the building down hill street with the union league sign on the side is the hotel belmont, (the old ywca) just north of third. the mission hotel can be clearly seen at the intersection of 2nd and olive. the railings of the roof terrace of the nelson building, (third and clay), is visible, as is the cupola bell tower of the astoria just north of third on olive. lloyd was working with the hal roach studios at this time, so they wouldn't have had to travel very far for this location shot, as the studio was located almost from the vantage point of the photographer, in the bradbury mansion at hill and court street . enjoy! http://www.doctormacro.com/Images/Ll...Weaken)_01.jpg |
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Great picture, gs--interesting to see Lloyd's prosthetic glove in it. There's another shot from Never Weaken in this post: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=1294 and in the post, a not-to-be-missed link to a short documentary about Lloyd's downtown shooting, with terrific "then and nows." (Note the sequences of Lloyd racing a buggy past the Angels Flight Pharmacy.) |
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In "Best Years", the cab carrying the three vets pulls out of Orange Dr.... http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...10part1280.jpg and across Beverly is the apartment. You get a good view of this buillding next door on Beverly. http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/b...10part2055.jpg Sorry I don't have screen grabs to go with the pictures. |
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http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5209/...823cbb1369.jpg Cuter still, cruise south down Atlantic and look left to spy this gem at 438 El Mercado Avenue, tucked amidst much new development but still just as cute as the day it was hatched. http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5248/...127af629eb.jpg |
Mike D-- Here's a screen capture of the Stephenson's "Boone City" building, and another street view:
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...12458%20PM.jpgSamuel Goldwyn Company/RKO Radio Pictures http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...13750%20PM.jpgGoogle Street View |
The motels of The Facts of Life
No, not the tv show I never watched. In this 1960 Bob Hope/Lucille Ball movie about marital boredom in Pasadena, in spite of all the motels we see, not a thing happens. I looked along Ventura Boulevard in the vicinity of Fruitland Drive, fruitlessly, to see if anything still stands. A not-completely-in-depth check of the 1960 city directory didn't help--maybe these places are out of range of it. Anyone have any ideas of the locations of these motel gems?
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...reen%20capture http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...reen%20capture http://lh6.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...reen%20capture http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...reen%20capture http://lh4.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...11931%20AM.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...12211%20AM.jpg http://lh6.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...12229%20AM.jpg And a few more vintage L.A. shots from The Facts of Life: http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...10730%20AM.jpg http://lh6.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...10810%20AM.jpg EDIT 1-28-2016: A history of the "mobile" Olympic Drive-In theater is here: http://losangeleshistory.blogspot.co...histories.html http://lh3.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...11858%20AM.jpg All photos United Artists/MGM Home Entertainment |
I recognized the top hat so I looked in my files.
Below: Studio City 1950 http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/5...udiocity19.jpg usc archive Pretty cool huh. |
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http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5243/...986aba28_b.jpg http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5122/...076d8ae7_o.jpg 11733 Ventura Blvd |
Re: The Facts of Life, lots of info and more pix of the late lamented Olympic Drive-In here
http://cinematreasures.org/theater/3756/ |
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There are also many motels along Colorado Blvd. in Glendale and Eagle Rock, I assume before the freeways that Colorado Blvd. was a major road/highway leading into/out of Pasadena. In the eastern unincorporated portion of Pasadena on Colorado Blvd., there are a few old run-down motels left; I think they might charge by the hour, being that you also see some prostitutes hanging around in that area. Valley Blvd. in the San Gabriel Valley as well as Garvey Ave. also used to be major highways prior to the freeways; you can still see some rundown motels along those streets as well in cities like El Monte and La Puente. I've heard that street prostitution exists around those motels in El Monte. |
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The one you talk about that you thought might've been the C/SM/G is a single-family dwelling at 109 S Hill, ca. 1890, that fronted on Hill. Some time prior to 1906 it had that whole back part added on (that stretched onto Olive Court) and became known as the El Moro Hotel. The Cecil/St. Mark was back and to the right of the El Moro. ...the big building under Harold's armpit (at the fold of his jacket) is the 1910 Hotel Northern, btw. Too cool. Never Weaken also has a swell 3rd & Grand Angels Flight pharmacy gag in it as well! I read here http://fpk.homestead.com/files/ghost...of_justice.htm two films (Just Nuts, Haunted Spooks) were filmed inside the Bradbury. Could this be true? Haven't seen either. |
No shortage of neo-noir bedbug-and-clap traps remaining along Ventura in Studio City--here are a couple still standing. I thought at first that the Charles might be the Valley Springs, but now don't think so. And there's an even older tourist court next door. Can't make out the name on the sign, though.
http://lh4.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...45444%20PM.jpgGoogle Street View http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...45403%20PM.jpgGoogle Street View http://lh6.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TQ...23841%20PM.jpgGoogle Street View |
What a fantastic Harold Lloyd photograph!
I'd love to see some of these silents, especially Haunted Spooks. |
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Annette Lloyd/Petrografix http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynuOQvVaFMo |
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A wee quibbly, but still. There was also one I can't remember the name of; at the beginning he's a callow youth leaving home. He leaves the Biltmore on Grand and one can see the Dome in the distance. Saw it at Silent Movie and know I wrote it down somewhere... |
I missed the youtube link earlier.
That video was very interesting. Can you imagine if all of us got together for a project like this. It would be epic! |
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http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5042/...f508aba2_b.jpg Don't know what that older court is next door -- this may require a road trip! http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5041/...00748cbc_b.jpg Also, with the FOL screen grabs, the Patio Motel seems to still be kicking at 11466 Ventura Blvd. You'll note that next door the Valley Crown is still very much around (in structure; it's been repurposed) at 11472... |
I remember this place! It was south of the SB Fwy just past Soto St. It vanished after the freeway was widened there in the mid-'70s...
This is on Stillwell's. I remember it too for how it looked at night. The highway facing buildings were trimmed in blue neon giving it a most distinctive look. I guess to match the color motive in the postcard. |
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Like so many large-formats, you just get lost in 'em...
Yes, you do Beaudry. Ain't it fun? |
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