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^ Unless he's flipping it, the tower must be a fair assumption (or rumor)
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Wow! Check out Brandon Martella's latest concept for downtown, Fracture.
http://www.brandonmartella.net/p/fracture.html |
"fracture" would totally steal the thunder from the NEVP and ron roberts county waterpark
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Wow. That's just. Salivating.
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Are Tall Buildings Bad For Downtown?
Interesting article in Planetizen. It looks at the correlation between high rises and strong or weak downtowns: Are Tall Buildings Bad For Downtown? I also posted the link in my blog UrbDeZine. (Personally, I think the desirability of high rises is often over-emphasized)
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I think some of those arguments could be applicable to SD. The most vibrant section of downtown happens to be the gaslamp where there is a 12-story limit. However, it's also a thematic and entertainment district, and is surrounded by high-rise structures on all sides. So much like this article, their are no concrete conclusions to be drawn from either side of the yea or nay high rise debate. I do believe in SD we have to accept the reality that high-rise construction will be limited to downtown. On the other end, we also must accept that mid-rise density (5-12 story) should and needs to be accepted in many of our urban neighborhoods. These densities, when properly designed to connect back into the street, would benefit their communities in terms of investment, housing and economic opportunities, and growth. |
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I just looked at Park Station La Mesa and that looks great! Get that going now.
Was walking around downtown on Saturday and that area were the fountain was next to Tin Fish and Hard Rock Hotel looks TERRIBLE! That is such a dead space and just ruins the aesthetic of that whole section of downtown. What is the deal with that? Any solution? Why doesn't Hard Rock pay to make it look better.... Oh and also walked up the steps of Convention center and boy is it showing signs of age, the steps look terrible and the Center has fading clading with rust marks and water spots. It really does need to be fixed up a bit. Looks like the construction materials were not top notch. |
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Portland has a similar area comparable to the fountain by Tin Fish, except ours is a tiny little parking lot crammed into the same amount of space. I'd rather have a "dead" fountain than a tiny parking lot crammed into a corner lot in the middle of downtown. :( |
While I wouldn't be opposed to Park Station in my neighborhood, I can see how people in La Mesa may question why an 18 story high-rise is being put up in an area not accustomed to that kind of development. Granted, I think that area could handle that type of development, it's a place with accessible trolley and bus routes and a good street grid layout. I think if it's done well it could potentially be a role model for more dense development in similar places in the county.
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[QUOTE=SDfan;6059633]While I wouldn't be opposed to Park Station in my neighborhood, I can see how people in La Mesa may question why an 18 story/QUOTE]
In reality though 18 stories is nothing look at the TOD's in Toronto and Vancouver (Coastal Elitist City with views just like SD) go up to 40 floors in there "Vertical Villages" or what ever they call them I forget the proper term. The fact is people who live outside of DTSD will HAVE TO just get used to tall structures being in their, the future has arrived. It is 2013 for christ sakes time for some CHANGE. Why does everyone think things will always just stay the same? Verticality is not your enemy as long as the structure is designed well and not big chunky stucco towers like in UTC but nice glassy stuff like Vancouver and downtown. (Oh and I will add, vertical development obviously has not affected property values in Vancouver, it is a very expensive city especially for one without a lot of high paying jobs - just like good ole SD and its sunshine tax - ) |
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I mean 18 stories is nothing in Toronto and Vancouver because high-rise structures have been in those regions for decades. La Mesa has what? 5, 6 story precedent? I mean you're comparing two very different situations. Now say this was Mission Valley, or UTC, or even National City or western Chula Vista where there could be reasonable high-rise development (30-40 stories), then I would think that those communities would need to be given some education as to why they need to absorb more of these types of projects. Again, I wouldn't disapprove of Park Station, I think it would be lovely if it was in downtown Oside, or in a number of areas uptown. In La Mesa, however, I would take it more slowly. Maybe introduce that community to 10-12 story structures first rather then propose something three times the height of every other structure in their community? The future is coming, but we need to be more mindful (and respectful) of our neighbors sense of community and place. Otherwise, the next time something similar is proposed, they may fight tooth and nail and turn radically against all new urban ideas and concepts (think 1970's coastal height limit type actions). |
Since we're talking about East County, I always thought that El Cajon has so much potential. It's a moderate sized city, confined in a valley, served by the trolley. I think they should create a street-car line through their DT that connects to the trolley. Their core could easily develop and densify and I'm sure the city would welcome large projects to revitalize the area.
I'd like to see other neighborhoods of SD utilize the trolley as the backbone and have streetcar spurs come off of it. What do you guys think? |
Just come across this article. Thoughts?
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