SkyscraperPage Forum
Viewing Page 38 of 48
Show 50 post(s) from this thread on one page

SkyscraperPage Forum (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/index.php)
-   Proposals (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=361)
-   -   NEW YORK | Hudson Yards Phase 2 | 1,376 - 1,189 - 1,180 FT | 80/80/74 FLOORS (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216956)

TK2001 Mar 6, 2025 6:26 PM
Great work! And great job making the west faces of 40 HY flush, renderings show those sections stacking up like stairs while the plans show the flush side

NYguy Mar 11, 2025 1:37 AM
They've already done a lot on the west side, but the railyards development needs to be completed, and this is a big opportunity to do that.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktJPfZdL-Rs


https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards1.png




https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards2.png

NYguy Mar 31, 2025 12:01 AM
They've included a webcam on this Gateway information page...



https://www.gatewayprogram.org/hudso...section-3.html

Hudson Yards Concrete Casing – Section 3
The Hudson Yards Concrete Casing – Section 3 Project will provide the vital link that connects the new Hudson River Tunnel to New York Penn Station.


https://www.gatewayprogram.org/wp-co...576d6c5bd0.jpg


Quote:
This project involves extending the existing concrete casing on a diagonal alignment from 11th Avenue to 30th Street, where it will link up with the new tunnel.

HYCC-3 will be approximately 500 feet long, 60 feet wide, and 60 feet high. Its structure will consist of heavily reinforced concrete ranging from 3.5 to 10 feet thick to support future loading from the overbuild platform. A waterproofing membrane will cover its perimeter.

Sections 1 and 2 of the concrete casing were built underground in the block bordered by 10th and 11th Avenues and 30th and 33rd Streets. Construction of the first 800-foot section (between 10th and 11th Avenues) began in August 2013. The second section extended the project west another 105 feet under the 11th Avenue viaduct in Manhattan. Both sections were completed in 2018.

HYCC-3 is the final segment that will enable the new Hudson River Tunnel to connect into New York Penn Station.



From the cam...



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...nel0330251.png



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...nel0330252.png



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...nel0330253.png



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...nel0330254.png



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...nel0330255.png



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...nel0330256.png

NYguy Apr 4, 2025 12:42 AM
Clowns talking about the High Line again.


https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/04/...the-high-line/

Lander calls for killing Hudson Yards casino bid, saying it will hurt the High Line


https://i0.wp.com/www.nydailynews.co...2C9999px&ssl=1


By Chris Sommerfeldt
April 3, 2025


Quote:
City Comptroller and mayoral candidate Brad Lander is calling on a major real estate firm to pull the plug on its bid to develop a casino on Manhattan’s west side, saying the plan would pose a burden on the High Line and fall short when it comes to affordable housing.

In a statement shared exclusively with the Daily News, Lander said the Related-Wynn plan would disrupt the High Line, the iconic 1.5-mile elevated greenway spanning through the old train yards. Lander said he’s even more concerned the latest version of the Related-Wynn plan drops the number of housing units — from 5,700 to 1,500 — that they’d have to build in the surrounding area in exchange for getting to operate the casino. Just 324 of those units would be affordable under the plan.

Somebody tell that moron that the affordable units would be the same in either plan.



Quote:
In a statement, a rep for the joint Related-Wynn venture behind the casino bid suggested Lander’s complaint about a lack of housing is counterintuitive, as the units that got dropped from the plan would have been luxury apartments priced at $4,000 per square foot. Additionally, the rep said Related and Wynn have worked with local stakeholders to address complaints about disruption to the High Line, including by rotating the design of the tower in order to ensure an unobstructed view along the promenade.

“This is an economically viable plan that builds on the success of Hudson Yards — which the comptroller has previously acknowledged — and creates more than 1,500 new homes in our city, including maintaining the entirety of the original affordable housing commitment,” the rep said. “We will continue to work with local leaders to improve the plan.”

ChiND Apr 4, 2025 12:52 AM
What a dope!

NYguy Apr 4, 2025 2:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Garynewman (Post 10403934)
which candidate is most pro development? Why do these people always want proposals striked down?
Lander in particular has always been a critic of the Hudson Yards, and he's had to eat some of his words. But he's late to the "harm the High Line" party, and is just skimming for votes.



https://therealdeal.com/new-york/202...-got-it-wrong/

Lander candid on Hudson Yards: “I got it wrong”
Comptroller admits development producing more tax revenue than expected

Jun 20, 2023

Quote:
City Comptroller Brad Lander openly admitted the Bloomberg administration was right about Hudson Yards’ public financing scheme.

It’s not just working, but working better than anticipated — even after the development was slammed by Covid.

“One really interesting thing we looked at this month, in the Class A, in the trophy parts of the market, things are actually really rebounding well,” he said on NY1. “Hudson Yards is giving about $200 million more a year than we expected, and that’s going to grow to $300 million.”

https://nypost.com/2023/06/19/fierce...-got-it-wrong/

Fierce Hudson Yards critic admits financial boon to city: ‘I got it wrong’

By Steve Cuozzo
June 19, 2023

Quote:
The staunchest elected critic of Related Companies’ Hudson Yards finally admitted that the complex makes money for the city.

Comptroller Brad Lander long griped that the city was getting stiffed by the deal that let Related make payments-in-lieu of taxes, which he said wouldn’t cover the debt and shortchange the city.

In a jaw-dropping admission on Errol Louis’s NY1 show last week, Lander said: “Hudson Yards is giving about $200 million more a year than we expected, and that’s going to grow to $300 million.”

Sky88 Apr 4, 2025 2:31 PM
Brad Lander has little chance of becoming the next mayor, so what he says matters little...

NYguy Apr 6, 2025 4:36 PM
https://www.nydailynews.com/2025/04/...-yards-casino/

Transit wins with a Hudson Yards casino


By MITCHELL MOSS
April 6, 2025


Quote:
Everyone benefits from mass transit — even those who never use it, since the essential workers who staff our hospitals and keep groceries on supermarket shelves, rely on the subway everyday along with more than 250,000 students who take the train to public, independent and religious schools.

Today, we have an opportunity to generate more than $2.7 billion to support the MTA simply by building a casino on the western portion of Hudson Yards on Manhattan’s Far West Side. This is possible since a casino on that site, along with an office tower, would generate enough cash to pay for a massive deck above the railroad yards and also generate more than $600 million in revenues over 30 years to the MTA.
Quote:
In a normal world, the intelligent elected officials who represent this area would recognize that all New Yorkers will benefit from a casino at Hudson Yards, even if it might interrupt the sightlines from the neighboring High Line and Hudson River Park.

The local Community Board has organized against the plan, preferring to wait for the State of New York to spend $2 billion for a deck on the rail yards, even if this is a fantasy that the rest of the state will never indulge. Of course, the residents of this Community Board are not typical New Yorkers. They are more affluent, with almost 30% having annual household incomes above $200,000, compared with 15.6% of all New York households.
Quote:
….. luxury housing, by itself, will not cover the costs of a massive deck above the yards. It is worth noting that within the community board area, Hudson Yard’s developer — the Related Companies — has more than 7,000 new housing units planned, of which 3,255 will be affordable.

To be clear, this isn’t an argument for casinos in New York City. I’m not involved in this process in any way other than caring about my city. State lawmakers settled the casino question several years ago when they approved three licenses for the region. So, the debate must be around the best place to locate them, that have the highest chance of generating significant dollars and jobs and proving the least intrusive on neighborhoods.
Quote:
All New Yorkers will win with a new casino at Hudson Yards. The $2.7 billion generated by the construction and operations of a new casino could cover the cost of making 23 subway stations fully accessible, purchasing 495 new subway cars, or more than half of the $5.4 billion needed to modernize subway signals in the 2025-2029 MTA Capital Plan.

The West Side of Manhattan has a long history of progressive leadership. The opposition to the casino is a sad departure for a community that gave us the High Line and Hudson River Park, which have brought new life and energy to the Hudson River waterfront. A casino at Hudson Yards will help all New Yorkers at a time when the future of our subways and buses is at stake.

Without this project, the western yards will remain an open scar on the West Side of Manhattan rather than an economic engine. Along with the proposed casino and its 5,000 permanent union jobs, there will be a new 5.6-acre park open to the public and a new public school to serve the projected growth in the surrounding communities.

New Yorkers are facing tough times in the years ahead without many allies in Washington — it’s shortsighted to say no to projects like this one.

More than half a century ago, New Yorkers approved a lottery to support public education. Today we need a casino at Hudson Yards to pay for the cost of modernizing our transit system.

NYguy Apr 9, 2025 11:59 AM
https://w42st.com/post/everything-we...-hudson-yards/

“Everything We Agreed to is Gone”: West Side Residents Protest Casino Plan at Hudson Yards


https://i0.wp.com/w42st.com/wp-conte...50%2C798&ssl=1


by Dashiell Allen
4/8/2025


Quote:
“We are demanding that our electeds stand with us in this fight, as they did 10 years ago in our victory,” said Ambur Nicosia, president of the Penn South Board — a cooperative housing development in Chelsea — on Tuesday morning.

She and other community leaders from Hell’s Kitchen and Chelsea braved the cold, blustery weather at a press conference, to stand strong against Related Companies and Wynn Resort’s push for a proposal that overhauls a 2009 plan for the undeveloped western portion of Hudson Yards (bw W31/33rd St and 11/12th Ave) that prioritized housing, in favor of a primarily commercial development, with the potential for a gaming facility.
Quote:
The developer has since submitted plans that include 4,000 fewer housing units (but the same amount of affordable housing), a hotel, and a casino built on top of a podium — which requires approval through a separate state-led process.

“This was a long, hard fought battle that the community thought they had already won. So the fact that we’re standing here today is with great sadness,” Nicosia said.

Joe Restuccia, a longtime member of MCB4, was involved in negotiating the 2009 plan. “Here we are looking at the idea that everything we agreed to (in writing)… is gone,” he said on Tuesday, “and that’s why our Council Members have got to vote this down. Related Companies should have to withdraw the proposal. Let’s start again and do something that has a real housing plan.”
Quote:
In defense of the proposal, Related’s Chief Operating Officer of Hudson Yards Andrew Rosen told the City Planning Commission in February, “We’re at a rare moment in time with a realistic, achievable opportunity to finish the Yards, deliver thousands of construction and permanent union jobs, green space, affordable housing and economic development in the city.

“Twenty percent of the High Line surrounds the western rail yard area, and the magic that is standing 30 feet above in the air, looking over and seeing the sweeping views of the city will be erased forever,” Van Capelle said on Tuesday.

The City Planning Commission is expected to vote on Related and Wynn’s proposal tomorrow (Wednesday), after which it would be voted on by the City Council in the coming weeks for final approval. The City Council typically defers to local members, in this case, Councilmember Erik Bottcher, who represents the West Side.
Quote:
At a working session on Monday, the Department of City Planning urged the Commission to support the proposal, with slight modifications including dividing a large podium in the northern portion of its site plan into two parts with a corridor between them, and slightly lowering the podium’s height.

Restuccia said it’s likely the Commission will approve the proposal. “I think the real power lies with the City Council, and that’s who has to vote on this,” he said. “It used to be in the planning commission. Now it’s a rubber stamp commission.”


These morons. Everything of benefit to them is still there - the school, community space, open space, the affordable housing, all still there.

ChiND Apr 9, 2025 12:07 PM
These people are delusional. This area was a desolate, disgusting dump before the HY was built. Phase II will make it even better.

ChiND Apr 9, 2025 12:10 PM
These people are delusional. This area was a desolate, disgusting dump before the HY was built. Phase II will make it even better.

Does anyone remember this vile McDonald’s?

https://thumbs.6sqft.com/wp-content/...00&format=webp

https://www.6sqft.com/related-buys-f...-hudson-yards/

NYguy Apr 9, 2025 11:40 PM
One thing everyone has got to understand - including these reporters - is that the casino bidding process hasn't even started yet. Everything moving through any type of approval process now is land-use related. The casino approval process is to begin this summer.



https://www.amny.com/news/hudson-yar...a-development/

Hudson Yards West project with proposed casino moves closer to approval; will plans help give MTA a financial boost?


https://www.amny.com/wp-content/uplo...esize=1200,744


By Barbara Russo-Lennon
April 9, 2025


Quote:
The bidding war for a NYC metro area casino license is heating up as the Hudson Yards West project received a green light from the City Planning Commission (CPC) on Wednesday, moving it one step closer to an approved reality.

Related Companies/Oxford Properties Group and Wynn Resorts, the developers and gaming gurus behind the project, said the commission “overwhelmingly voted” to support modifications required to revitalize the existing Western Railyards with a gaming resort, housing and green park space.
Quote:
The application is distinct from the more involved state approval process for gaming facility licenses.

“While this is a significant proposal before us this morning, the scope of what we’re actually voting on is much narrower,” CPC Chair Dan Garodnick said. “Our vote is on land use actions to allow for this site to compete with other regional applications for a gaming license, and in the alternative, to ensure a site plan that delivers for the public.”
Quote:
‘$2.7 billion for the MTA’

Should the casino be built, the bigwigs in charge of the project said 1% of gross gaming revenue would be given to nearby community organizations, likely in Chelsea, Hell’s Kitchen, and the West Side of Manhattan. They also said transit services would benefit from a full-service casino in the neighborhood.

As the state-run MTA faces several financial challenges, including a $68.4 billion capital plan that is still waiting for approval and the fate of congestion pricing still in the hands of federal court, casino bidders said gaming revenue can help support expensive transportation enhancement projects.

“The development is also projected to generate $2.7 billion in revenue for the MTA, providing a much-needed boost for public transit at a time of fiscal uncertainty,” a spokesperson for the project said.

One thing that was made clear from an earlier meeting is that, even if the original site planning was financially viable (it isn't), the MTA has already rejected that plan as not compatible with the railyards.

Crawford Apr 10, 2025 12:01 AM
Very good news. Nice to see the City Planning Commission enthusiastically approve the project.

ChiND Apr 10, 2025 12:41 AM
So if Wynn/Related is awarded the license, this proposal can proceed? (It will easily obtain financing.)

NYguy Apr 10, 2025 1:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10407639)
So if Wynn/Related is awarded the license, this proposal can proceed? (It will easily obtain financing.)
It’s not a matter of getting the license, as there is an aternative without the casino. The site plan would change regardless. It would just enable Related to submit a bid for a casino license.

ChiND Apr 10, 2025 1:51 AM
Thanks. So these putzes who opposed the change of plans from what was originally approved have been thwarted?

NYguy Apr 10, 2025 2:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10407685)
Thanks. So these putzes who opposed the change of plans from what was originally approved have been thwarted?

The City Council will have the final vote, or send it back to City Planning for further changes.

The change in site plan allows for 2 scenarios - with a casino and without.



https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...Ymodified1.png




https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...Ymodified2.png




https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...Ymodified3.png




https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1....HYpodium1.png




https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1....HYpodium2.png

ChiND Apr 10, 2025 2:55 AM
Does this indicate that Related must break up the podium into two separate buildings? That would suck.

NYguy Apr 10, 2025 1:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10407711)
Does this indicate that Related must break up the podium into two separate buildings? That would suck.
That’s the alternative scenario, without the casino.

ChiND Apr 10, 2025 1:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 10407832)
That’s the alternative scenario, without the casino.
Thanks. So if they get the license, the full podium that was initially shown will still be built?

Related/Wynn have the absolute best plan by far.

This is going to be incredible.

https://www.amny.com/wp-content/uplo...esize=1200,744


All times are GMT. The time now is 7:07 PM.
Viewing Page 38 of 48
Show 50 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.