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I personally feel no duty to cater to north county residents. They made the conscious decision to move to BFE and proximity to NOTHING is simply one of the consequences. Again, just my humble opinion. :) |
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Agreed. :) I actually think we should work on improving efficiency and leverage the two other airports we have in our region… Carlsbad and Tijuana. Increase short distance routs from CLD and build the US terminal at TIJ for international flights. I already fly out of TIJ when going anywhere in Mexico and I think this could be expanded to at least all of Central and South America. Besides, anyone who flies a lot knows how inconvenient mega-airports are. They are necessary in mid-contentment hubs or major international ports like NY and LA, but here it would just be a waste and make the average short haul commuter (like me) very unhappy. Maybe I would be singing a different tune if I commuted to Asia or Europe instead of regionally, but I doubt it.
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Through my sleuthing the internet, I found this tower proposal:
La Jolla Centre III by Irvine Company - 15 stories http://www.examiner.com/article/irvi...a-office-tower Now, as for the Cisterra development north of Petco (15 story office tower proposal), I'm about 90% sure that site is where the Cosmopolitan condominium project (40 stories) was going to go. So it's safe to assume that Cosmo is dead and that when the economy does pick up an office tower is lurking in the shadows. Now the Kearny Mesa project by Sunroad was a 8 story building last I saw, so I'm not sure if that project would have to be amended in order to accommodate Sempra, although I'm sure they'd have to make it somewhat bigger. |
In this article you can see the proposed UTC condominium tower in the background of the new UTC trolley station being designed right now.
http://www.sdnews.com/view/full_stor...home_main_ljvn |
PS, does anyone know anything about Monte Verde in UTC? It was the two 34-story, two 35-story project proposed by Costa Verde developers. I know it was reduced in height (of course...) to a 23, two-22, and 21 story development, but I only heard rumors that it was approved or not.
PLEASE, I need info. Gracias. |
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For tourist, convention, and business travelers, core SD is all that matters and those are important groups. the airport is central as possible to probably 95% fo business, convention, and tourist activity. And look at a map of SD, lindberg is literally central to the entire county if you exclude north of the 56. Basically, north county suburbia is left out, and they'd still have to drive to miramar anyways. I don't see the point of moving the airport out of the city's dense core so people from Escondido (what percentage of flyers do they represent?) can shave their 45 mile drive down to 35. Quote:
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A new airport at miramar would cost BILLIONS, as would the trolley lines which no one would ride except for the airport (there is a reason all realistic proposed lines aren't to miramar.) What do you get for those billions? Basically it's closer to a few at the expense of further from many. Quote:
Carlsbad and Encinitas (51 percent “no”), Solana Beach (53 percent), San Marcos and National City (54 percent), Oceanside (55 percent), Vista (56 percent), Chula Vista and Escondido (57 percent), Del Mar (62 percent), La Mesa (63 percent), Imperial Beach (64 percent), El Cajon and San Diego (65 percent) Lemon Grove and Coronado (66 percent), Poway (74 percent) and Santee (75 percent). |
http://matchbin-assets.s3.amazonaws....w_apts_007.JPGI know its not downtown but others post stuff not there either. this is in my neck of the woods.
High end, mixed-used project taking shape in Crown Point by Marsha Kay Seff 8 days ago | 2207 views | 0 | 4 | | view slideshow (2 images) After languishing on the market for the last two years, the old Union 76 gas station property at Ingraham Street and La Playa Avenue in Crown Point is under development. Rising from the site is The Point at Ingraham, a high-end, urban-design, mixed-use project. At three stories, the apartments and commercial space that will add up to 35,000 square feet will house 21 apartments and 2,266 square feet of retail space, possibly with a café and drycleaners. The lot, which measures 22,500 square feet, will include 45 parking spaces behind the building, plus room for bicycles inside and out. Brothers Russell and Scott Murfey, native San Diegans who live in Pacific Beach and who have an office kitty corner to the project, are the developers under their Veritas Urban Properties through Murfey Construction. The Murfeys bought the property from Loma La Jolla LLC for $1.2 million. The Point will include nine two-bedroom apartments, 11 one-bedrooms and one studio. The Murfeys haven’t firmed up any deals for the commercial space, but they said there has been “quite a bit of interest.” The goal is to be finished with the project by the end of this year. “I believe Pacific Beach needs higher-quality apartment buildings,” said Russell Murfey. “We’re excited to bring this product to the market because it’s different from anything out there.” He said the current trend in Pacific Beach is for young people to come and enjoy the benefits of the beach for awhile and then leave, because there are not enough high-quality rentals. “We believe there’s room for hard-working people who want to stay in PB,” said Russell Murfey. He sees his renters as Generation Y, who are out of school with well-paying first or second jobs, maybe with children, looking for good, entry-level housing. The brothers, who have built other mixed-use products around San Diego, currently are also building a 4,000-square-foot home on the water in La Jolla Shores. Murfey said The Point apartment rates will be competitive with nearby complexes, including Avalon at Mission Bay next door, and the new apartments will include such luxury aspects like hard-surface countertops and European cabinetry and 18-foot ceilings in the commercial space. Murfey said neighbors have been enthusiastic. Joe Splendorio, bar manager at Rocky’s Crown Pub, kitty corner to the project, said he believes the project will help business “if there’s no retail.” He’s also a bit worried about parking. Sal Yacoub, owner of the VP Racing gas station across the street, also sees advantages. “It’s going to be better than it is now,” he said. But he, too, worries about parking for the new businesses and traffic from the new project’ exits, even though he concedes many customers will be walking anyway. Being a businessman, Yacoub said he’s negotiating on renting a space in the complex for a food court. Murfey said neighbors shouldn’t worry about parking issues. “There are plenty of parking spaces; one per bedroom, three for guests and 13 for commercial,” he said. “That’s more than required by city code. We pulled the retail back from the corner with an outdoor patio and a seat-wall as a public amenity for social gatherings.” Murfey described himself and his brother as locals who want to do the right thing. “PB has a lot of room to grow into an incredible beach area that’s not just for college kids,” he said “… We’re part of the community and want to be cohesive with Crown Point and Pacific Beach, including our neighbors.” • Veritas Urban Properties, 1571 La Playa Ave; www.veritasurban.com |
I don't understand this whole airport debate. The fact that the airport is right next to downtown sucks, period. Who cares if it's "central" and "near the core"? Almost every large city airport is located far from their city's center, and they're all doing just fine.
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I'm excited for this corner. This will be a great addition to PB/Crown Point. It's time PB matures and grows. I agree with the developers on this point. |
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With the exposure Sempra will get from having their logo in the outfield of every Padres game they'd be dumb not to move. |
Hopefully it's around the 480 foot mark. ;)
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Oh man, I missed the 15 story part. :(
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Or how about this amazing concept for that site that I saw tons of in Sydney..... MIXED USE!!!!! I don't understand why San Diego can not grasp this.... How about 15 floors of office with 15 to 20 of residential on top? I'm sure Seattle is doing some of this, Vancouver, etc. Wake up little SD we are a big city now too :shrug:
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a question: is there a post like the thread opener that has an updated (2013) summary of projects u/c, approved and proposed? i'd love to get a sense of sd's recovery, considering the absolute epic boom in the pre-crash.
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