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Extell's proposal reminded me of Empire State Plaza in Albany. I think we lucked out with the current design.

IMO, the HN.com render would look better with the phase II section mirrored.
That way, the apices of the towers would point towards 30HY.

We need a megatall in haudson yards to finish the projet like a houdson spire

^ that would be nice!

there are supposed to be six residential towers, a school and one office/residential tower, so it could happen that we get a taller building than phase one has.

speaking of this, as the end of phase one is well in sight, has there been any word at all on when phase two starts?

i figured it would be sooner than later, because that is when related starts to make their money back and then the profit $$$.

Whatever happens, the first semi-official tower renders will be interesting.

What we've seen thus far is perhaps 99% architecturally conceptual, although some of the massings IMO indicates a more (NPI) concrete vision.

Would be nice if some of the residentials are like 111 W 57th Street (Steinway), 53W53 (Verre), and 520 Park Avenue. A few that are not primarily blue glass, please!!

That's not supposed to happen. The railyards development was given general guidelines of the taller towers being on the eastern half, and that's understandable. That's why I've always considered the western half to be the "Battery Park City" of this development. But Related has been known to push for exceptions to the site planning and guidelines. If there was significantly more money to be made by pushing towers higher, which I'm not sure there would be at this point, I could see them pushing for it. Remember, this is the half where everything is supposed to pay off for Related.

oh i didn't realize there was any agreement about taller on the eastern half and shorter on the western half of the yards.

unfortunately, whatever they do, it will be a sterile battery park north type of area, no helping that. clean and souless, thats what the type of people who will live there want.

It's really a golden opportunity to add a boat load of units. Nowadays, open land in Manhattan is super scarce bar the West side, and thats rapidly changing. 4 mil-sqft of residential is a ton, so it'll be several 1000 units. What I'm wondering is what the average sq ft will be for your typical HY Phase II residential unit? 500-750 sqft for example would be nice.

There is no such agreement. There are no pre-set height limits for the western railyards.

We have no idea what will be built, outside of the fact that they have to include a school, there are some affordable housing requirements and it will (probably) be mostly residential.

My guess is that Related won't stop with Phase II. They're too invested in the neighborhood. They'll eventually take the Javits site, the bus garage site or the post office sorting site, or some combination of the three. Those three sites will be the next phases of whatever large-scale plans hit the West Side.

I just hope they dump the Frank Gehry building and hire Norman Foster instead.

thats what i thought about the height limits. i dk where nyguy got that general guidelines implication from, maybe he can post something about that? :shrug:

I doubt that Related has the money for do all this.

They wouldn't be doing it all at once, obviously.

Yes, it was well established in the guidelines that the towers would "slope" with the tallest of the towers being on the western half of the railyards (it's why pretty much all of the proposals had the tallest towers on the east). Now, Related has been able to tinker with the guidelines before, but don't expect anything taller than 30 Hudson to rise here.

Of course this is all generalization, but it's the order things were intended to go, and it's why every render put out by Related shows shorter towers.


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Any news on stalled Amtrak tunnel extension founding? I believe Phase 2 platform construction will not start until the tunnel under Hudson Yards West is completed, just like in Phase1.

^ Related, it's been reported that the Gateway funding structure is now dead.

https://www.enr.com/articles/43831-h...hattan-skyline

https://www.wsj.com/articles/calatra...ers-1518933320

Calatrava and Gehry Among Architects Selected for Hudson Yards Towers
Related Cos. and Oxford Properties Group are behind the 28-acre Hudson Yards development


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By Keiko Morris
Feb. 18, 2018