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The new train stations are amazing, but are they all located in the inner cities?

Because that's what really sucks about Taiwan's new highspeed system. It shortened the travel time from Taipei to Kaohsiung from 5.5 to 1.5 hours, but a lot of the new stations are located 20 or even 25km away from the downtown area.

Wuhan's station is jawdropping

From SSC as usual:

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Originally Posted by Scion (Post 45867649)

CCTV-4 discusses the planning of the Beijing-Taipei High Speed Rail 京台高铁 via an undersea tunnel across the Taiwan Strait.

Part 1

• Video Link

Part 2

• Video Link

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Originally Posted by staff (Post 4548366)

From SSC as usual:

這影片不外乎若公開在各大新聞上,肯定會被砲轟!
因為涉及太多政治因素...

Wow. Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow wow... Wow... Wowwowwowowowwowwowwowwowwowwowwowwow wow.

That is amazing stuff.

I'm curious, since China's HSR, like Europe's, is in the same gauge as the main railroad network, whether there's a lot of interchange between the two (especially in urban areas) or if Chinese HSR is by and large, like in Europe, on separate gradients and ROWs?

Another question: considering how shallow the Yellow Sea is, is there a long-range plan to connect Tianjin and Seoul via a Yellow Sea tunnel? Or are they so dead-set on a line to Taipei that they're not going to invest in other foreign investment?

The U.S. definitely needs to step up its HSR game, too.

Right now it seems like they are rebuilding every major station in the country as well as building new ones. I went to Hefei this weekend and the station there is under complete reconstruction, and on return to Shanghai I saw the full extent of the renovations being done at Shanghai Station as well. It's unbelievable the amount of money China is pouring into its railways - without a doubt the biggest investment in a single nation's rail system in history. I can't wait to see the results.

Sort of on a side note, the Shanghai-Nanjing railway is SLOW... The train I was on could do 250km/h (CRH1, made by Bombardier/Sifang) and it held that speed for most of the Hefei-Nanjing stretch. But once we passed Nanjing, it only broke 200km/h for a short stretch, and was running at 150km/h or less for most of the Nanjing-Shanghai journey. I'd imagine the new Shanghai-Nanjing HSR line will remedy this problem, though.

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Originally Posted by hammersklavier (Post 4606344)

Another question: considering how shallow the Yellow Sea is, is there a long-range plan to connect Tianjin and Seoul via a Yellow Sea tunnel? Or are they so dead-set on a line to Taipei that they're not going to invest in other foreign investment?

The HSR to Taipei will not happen. This is just proporganda from the Chinese government. Those videos are from 2008 and the news anchor lady asked to people from Taiwan about this. The one lady stated that she not seen or heard about this project in Taiwan news besides a some posts on the internet.

Now, the only way I can see this project happening is if China takes control of Taiwan. And that wont happen any time soon. As for the us Taiwanese, this project wont happen because currently we are still in transition with the direct flight to China. And these flights are doing ok, but not as good as our government has told us.

I agree, it was most certainly propaganda.

Wuhan Railway station is one of the most impressive pieces of architecture Ive seen in a while

China is definitely getting ready to pwn the U.S. in just about everything.

amazing stuff. As a US citizen, it's just sad that we can't pull something even 1/100th as nice as this off. Instead of investing in infrastructure and ourselves, it's importing cheap crap and bombing foreign lands with bureaucratic fat cats leading the way.

China is just killing it with worldclass railroads, airports and transportation in general.

Amazing to see such advanced technology serving the people. I think Amtrak goes 100kmh if it is maintained enough to run the route. 380kmh, that's pretty quick!

Rolling stock roundup from SSC;

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Originally Posted by greenlion (Post 61173837)

http://www.zacliu.com/wp-content/upl...CRH1-D5128.jpg
http://www.hijiangxi.com/tp/2009/09/12/1205214064.gif

CRH1 Series

derived from Bombardier Regina, Manufacturer by Bombardier Sifang (Qingdao) Transportation Ltd. (BST)

CRH1A: 8 cars per trainset, maximum speed 200km/h,first opend at Feburary 1, 2007, between Guangzhou - Shenzhen, currently 50 trainsets on service

CRH1B: 16 cars per trainset , maximum speed 250km/h,first opend at April 2009, between Shanghai - Nanjing, & South Shanghai - Hangzhou, currently 20 trainsets on service

CRH1E: 16 cars per trainset , maximum speed 250km/h,first opend at November 4 2009, between Beijing - Shanghai, currently 20 trainsets on service
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http://www.crystalradio.cn/bbs/attac...kD1IcCzZpC.jpg
http://www.crystalradio.cn/bbs/attac...n22EiBaqAm.jpg
http://www.tieliu.com.cn/Article/Upl...7103424914.jpg

CRH2 Series

derived from E2 Series 1000 Shinkansen, Manufacturer by Sifang Locomotive and Rolling Stock

CRH2A: 8 cars per trainset, maximum speed 250km/h,first opend at January 28, 2007, between Shanghai - Hangzhou, currently 60 trainsets on service

CRH2B: 16 cars per trainset , maximum speed 250km/h,first opend at August 1 2008, between Hefei - Ningbo, currently 10 trainsets on service

CRH2C Stage one: 8 cars per trainset , maximum speed 350km/h,first opend at August 1 2008, between Beijing - Tianjin, currently 30 trainsets on service

CRH2C Stage two: 8 cars per trainset , maximum speed 350km/h,first opend at February 2010, between Zhengzhou - Xi'an, currently 30 trainsets on service, the new series CRH2-380 isderived from CRH2C Stage two

CRH2E: 16 cars per trainset , maximum speed 250km/h,first opend at December 21 2008, between Beijing - Shanghai & Beijing - Hangzhou, currently 20 trainsets on service
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http://sci.ce.cn/yjjj/jjzg/jjzgxw/20...8799234735.jpg
http://www.xkb.com.cn/uploads/2009-1...0005656220.jpg

CRH3 Series

derived from Siemens Velaro, Manufacturer at Tangshan Railway Vehicle

CRH3C: 8 cars per trainset, maximum speed 350km/h,first opend at August 1, 2008, between Beijing - Tianjin, currently 60 trainsets on service, planed to have 186 trainsets
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http://chineserailways.com/uploadfil...1556026988.jpg
http://chineserailways.com/uploadfil...1557148595.jpg
CRH5 Series

derived from Alstom Pendolino ETR600, Manufacturer by Changchun Railway Vehicles Co., Ltd

CRH5A: 8 cars per trainset, maximum speed 250km/h,first opend at July 1, 2008, between Beijing - Tianjin, currently 69 trainsets on service
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http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:p...ynGGXbIPkQlns=
http://www.fyjs.cn/bbs/attachments/M...1a309cde8f.jpg

CRH1-380 Series

Manufacturer by Bombardier Sifang (Qingdao) Transportation Ltd.

CRH1-380A, also named Zefiro 380, formerly known as CRH1C & CRH1D, 8 cars per trainset , maximum speed 380km/h, Will be on service at 2012, planned to manufacture 20 trainsets

CRH1-380B, 16 cars per trainset , maximum speed 380km/h, planned to manufacture 16 trainsets

http://i26.tinypic.com/9j18k7.jpg
CRH2-380 Series

Manufacturer by Sifang Locomotive and Rolling Stock

CRH2-380A, Based on CRH2C stage two, 8 cars per trainset , maximum speed 380km/h, the first CRH2-380A will be completed by August 2010, planned to manufacture 60 trainsets

CRH2-380B, 16 cars per trainset , maximum speed 380km/h, planned to manufacture 140 trainsets
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http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:1...5eySfOlKhNUFc=
CRH3-380 Series

Manufacturer byt Tangshan Railway Vehicle & Changchun Railway Vehicles Co., Ltd

CRH3-380A, Formerly known as CRH3D, based on CRH3C, 16 cars per trainset , maximum speed 380km/h, the first CRH3-380A completed by May 27 2010, planned to manufacturer 100 trainsets

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Geez, America's being left in the dust, transportation-wise. We need to step up now.

I'm starting to wonder if Atlas Shrugged was a massive self-fulfilling prophecy...?

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Originally Posted by hammersklavier (Post 4953249)

Geez, America's being left in the dust, transportation-wise. We need to step up now.

Yeah, did anyone notice these stations are ungodly expensive? Where do you suspect the money is coming from when the history of high speed rail is largely non profitable. Can anyone say debt bomb? Never going to happen here, this is Dubai like development on steroids. It's not at all sustainable.