I clearly said that the California line was NOT overrun with tourists but WAS duplicated by several faster, much cheaper to operate trolleybus lines. The expense of operation SHOULD mean that the line cater to tourists - they cost more per passenger than any other transit form in town. Too me, that means that their purpose is tourism - or they have none. Otherwise, we should invest the money in other transit used by more people to make the city function.

I agree on the Market St streetcars though, just wish that there were more of them so that they weren't so crowded.

I rode the Market Street streetcar, but I thought it was a little too slow. Too many slow downs for lights and too much time spent waiting for the crowds to board. So I preferred the subway where boarding/alighting the vehicles was much quicker. (though it is nice to be above ground where you can see what's happening - kind of why it's nice to sometimes take the brown line here in Chicago even though it takes a little more time to get downtown than taking the red line through the subway)

OhioGuy, glad you fell in love with our city. When you live here you here never ending criticism of just everything about it, but what you captured in your pics, shows this certain feeling you get here - if you pay attention - that makes all the alleged bad stuff face away. BTW if you look at your pic of great highway ( at the beach) and you see the road in the foreground and the sand dunes on the right - follow that ridge of san dunes to the big hill way in the distance and you're pretty much on top of the spot where the San Andreas Fault runs offshore, west of the gg bridge then back onshore in Marin County at Point Reyes. The land on the other side of that fault is bringing Los Angles ever closer to SF inch by inch - it'll take a while to get here but we are dreading it anyway....click and zoom: http://geology.com/san-andreas-fault/

Great pictues! There are a lot of wonderful SF threads on this board right now.

those are some pretty cool photos.

Well, I hope you had fun in the Castro, it's always fun, but especially during events like that. These pictures define why I love San Francisco and Northern California so much. Absolutely breathtaking and stunning. Simply one of the best SF threads I've ever seen on here. I see you made it to Sausalito as well, a very beautiful town. Thank you so much.

...is your sole purpose on this forum to dredge up old SF threads?

RST500 & whatsthepoint13, thanks for the compliments! :)

Yeah he wants to remind you that SF > LA.

Still have your inferiority complex to Los Angeles, I see. Anyways, with all due respect, comparing the two is a joke, and I am just going by any range of population metrics. Both are great cities in their own, unique ways.

Fortunately, it is only recent transplants to SF such as yourself who wish to pit the cities against each other. Not to get any further into this, but I am sure that you notice that it is only one side who is bent on making dirty remarks about the other, while the other side is non-chalent and could care less. Anyways, nobody's losing any sleep over your childish statements :haha:

Just knock it off. It is indeed annoying that this noob keeps dredging up SF threads from prior years, but that's not against the rules and you should just ignore it if it bothers you.

Destroycreate: knock it off. You were banned from this forum for a reason and quite frankly I don't know why you were allowed to return.

Personally, I like it when old beauts are brought back from the dead. Very nice bump from the 2 year slump.

^ I agree. I missed this one the first time around. It's sad to think of how many great pics of great cities I've missed over the years. Glad to see this one. Wonderful tour of a city that can get in your system and not let go. Belated thanks OG.

btw, is the guy on the right any kin to our Don B?

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oh wow! An absolutely gorgeous city. Glad it was brought back to life.

Nice pictures. I missed this the first time around, so I'm glad it was bumped because I'll be in San Francisco in a little over a month.

wow, a super nice thread, definitely makes sf look really good. you know, with all that's disastrously wrong with the built form in this city, you sometimes forget that some parts are reasonably attractive. it's a refreshing perspective.

Some parts are reasonably attractive?? Many parts are stunningly attractive despite the high number of bland/boring and/or ugly buildings that have been built since the 1950s. Almost anyone in the world will tell you how beautiful our City is!

Where do you live?

live on nob hill, where little of the blight is located. i'm thinking of things like the levi's campus and actually all those weird office buildings along the embarcadero, the 1980s structures in the fidi, some of the horrible high rise infill in the lower nob side of union square, a few truly horrifying structures in the civic center (main library being the worst, but fox plaza up there, along with 1155 market and the mta building), the pretty much every building on geary st between masonic and franklin, every redevelopment-era non-market housing project in the city (and there are dozens), all of lower fillmore, and much more. a great deal of the town is handsome, but much of it is as awful as anything you'd find in saint louis or whereever, let's be honest.

Edit: Stupid ass comment I made years ago, carry on, nothing to see here.