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lzppjb Jan 8, 2013 3:28 PM

And don't forget all the street work that'll be going on too. It'll be real busy downtown this year.

ahealy Jan 8, 2013 7:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lzppjb (Post 5964269)
And don't forget all the street work that'll be going on too. It'll be real busy downtown this year.

what street work?

lzppjb Jan 8, 2013 8:00 PM

Ben Wear: http://www.statesman.com/news/news/t...-plenti/nThSS/

Quote:

DOWNTOWN AUSTIN

Project: Reconstruct streets, install utilities, add bike lanes and, in some cases, wider “great streets” sidewalks on four downtown streets: East Second Street from Congress Avenue to Trinity Street, East Third Street from Congress to Trinity, Colorado Street from West Third to West 10th Street, and West Eighth Street from Congress to Rio Grande Street, with a roundabout at Rio Grande.

Length: About 20 blocks

Projected cost: $25.4 million (summation of all four projects; original estimate unavailable)

Start: April 2012 (Colorado section south of West Seventh, and East Second projects); September 2012 (West Eighth); October 2012 (East Third); October 2013 (Colorado section north of West Seventh)

Estimated completion: Summer 2013 (East Second and Colorado, south four blocks); May 2014 (East Third); and October 2014 (West Eighth and Colorado, north three blocks)

Project update: Work is ongoing on all but the Colorado project’s second phase north of West Seventh, and the middle portion of West Eighth between Colorado and Nueces streets. Work on Colorado has moved to the block between West Fifth and West Sixth streets.


Syndic Jan 8, 2013 8:34 PM

I took the upper deck Southbound on I-35 earlier and happened to notice that --- East Avenue ----- is already rising up and it's simply HUGE. There's no other way to put it. The floor area is ENORMOUS. I was able to get down there and snap a couple pictures, but unless I stopped my car and got out (in the nasty cold and rain) and snapped pics from the upper deck, there's no way I could relay just how gigantic it really is. I recommend you all go take a look at it, if you get a chance.

I'll add it to my list. I hadn't realized it was already under construction.

http://i.imgur.com/0Hourh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4uN9Ch.jpg

ahealy Jan 8, 2013 8:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndic (Post 5964808)
I took the upper deck Southbound on I-35 earlier and happened to notice that the East Avenue Andaz is already rising up and it's simply HUGE. There's no other way to put it. The floor area is ENORMOUS. I was able to get down there and snap a couple pictures, but unless I stopped my car and got out (in the nasty cold and rain) and snapped pics from the upper deck, there's no way I could relay just how gigantic it really is. I recommend you all go take a look at it, if you get a chance.

I'll add it to my list. I hadn't realized it was already under construction.

http://i.imgur.com/0Hourh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4uN9Ch.jpg

Don't mean to be Mr. Questions, but what exactly was this project supposed to be before it went all hibernation...?

lzppjb Jan 8, 2013 9:05 PM

I was going to ask how do you know it's the Andaz? For the life of me, I can't find anything for it. News, renders, etc. All I found was a Statesman article from March 2011 saying Hyatt still wanted an Andaz in Austin, but not in the University Park area.

Syndic Jan 8, 2013 9:18 PM

Ah, I think I figured it out. It's not the Andaz hotel. That didn't seem right to me, either. The layout is all wrong. I believe this is a 5-story apartment development simply called "East Avenue".

That's kind of a bummer. I can't even tell if it's going to be mixed-use. That area needs more height.

LoneStarMike Jan 8, 2013 9:26 PM

That's not the Andaz, Syndic. I think what you're actually seeing is the University Park Apartments.

Firm plans four Austin apartment complexes worth $200 million
By Shonda Novak
Austin American-Statesman
July 1, 2011


The above article has a rendering of the University Park Apartments. Construction when the article was written was estimated to have begun in the summer of 2012, but as we all know, nothing ever really breaks ground when they initially think it will. The article also mentioned the apartments at Lamar & Manchaca. That project is just breaking ground now, but was supposed to have broken ground in March of 2012.

Edited to add: You beat me to it.

JoninATX Jan 9, 2013 12:52 AM

Also the Hotel Van Zandt may start this year as well.

KevinFromTexas Jan 9, 2013 3:00 AM

Buildings I would add to that list that should start this year:

GreenWater. For sure I would think the two apartment towers and probably the hotel are a go. The office building is the only one that I think there might be a smaller market for, and they have some competition with 3 Eleven Bowie's office component, IBC Bank Plaza, 3rd & Colorado and Shoal Creek Walk. Still, it's always a race to be first, so there's no reason to think they wouldn't start the office tower as soon as they get final approval.

300 East 5th Street Hotel. They're moving through the city's development process now, so I would expect it to break ground this year. And with White Lodging's other successes in Austin, there's no reason to think they won't do that hotel.

Hotel Van Zandt is also still going through city approval.

Hotel ZaZa & Apartments

UT System Headquarters, if they decide to go ahead with it, it should break ground this year.

KevinFromTexas Jan 9, 2013 3:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndic (Post 5964808)
I took the upper deck Southbound on I-35 earlier and happened to notice that --- East Avenue ----- is already rising up and it's simply HUGE. There's no other way to put it. The floor area is ENORMOUS. I was able to get down there and snap a couple pictures, but unless I stopped my car and got out (in the nasty cold and rain) and snapped pics from the upper deck, there's no way I could relay just how gigantic it really is. I recommend you all go take a look at it, if you get a chance.

I'll add it to my list. I hadn't realized it was already under construction.

http://i.imgur.com/0Hourh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/4uN9Ch.jpg

That project is huge. You can see it under construction on Google Earth. I measured the building, and it is 200 feet by 400 feet. Are you talking about the construction site west of Harmon Avenue at the southwest corner of Harmon Avenue and Concordia Avenue? The address is 3400 Harmon Avenue. That project will be 73 feet tall with 5 floors.

There are some taller buildings that were at least designed for that area. A couple of them are being designed by the same firm that is doing Streetlights at Barton Springs.

There's a tower planned for 921 Luther Street at the East Avenue Parcel 5 site that is supposed to be 205 feet with 16 floors. Another one on Parcel 2 at 1020 East 32nd Street is 190 feet with 16 floors. Both of those would easily be taller than anything north of Dean Keeton/24th Street. The nearest taller buildings to those are 8 blocks to the south and are nearly a mile southwest of that area. So this would create a mini skyline in that area independent of the UT Campus.

ROCrot Jan 9, 2013 3:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndic (Post 5964151)
Okay guys, so 2012 is over with and it was a pretty good year for Austin. We saw development finally pick up again to pre-2008 recession levels. Many projects were announced and begun. It's looking like 2013 will be even bigger. I figured I'd make a list of downtown projects for the new year. Please correct me if you have more up-to-date information or if I forgot anything. (BTW, we need to update the list on the front page, too.)


Projects that will be starting in 2013:
  1. Shoal Creek Walk - early 2013
  2. 6th & Lamar (former KVET studios) - early 2013
  3. Capital Studios (11th & Trinity) - early 2013
  4. 3rd and Colorado - early 2013
  5. GreenWater - early 2013
  6. Fairmont Hotel - March 2013
  7. New Central Library - Summer 2013
  8. IBC Bank Plaza - 2013
  9. Seaholm - 2013
  10. 7Rio - 2013
  11. StreetLights at Barton Springs - 2013
  12. Broadstone at the Lake - 2013
  13. Rainey Center - late 2013

Projects that will be completed in 2013:
  1. The Whitley
  2. Gables Park Plaza II
  3. Eleven Austin
  4. Hyatt Place
  5. RiverView Apartments
  6. Calloway House
  7. 2400 Nueces
  8. West Campus Tower

Projects that will continue construction in 2013:
  1. JW Marriott Hotel
  2. 3eleven Bowie
  3. SkyHouse Austin
  4. East Avenue apartments

Anyone updating this page?
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=198519

Syndic Jan 9, 2013 10:41 AM

Nope. I haven't seen BevoLJ around lately. Maybe someone could edit his post? Or just delete it and post an updated one under their name? Or we could wait for him to return, I guess.

Anyway, I updated my list with those projects.

Projects that will be starting in 2013:
  1. Shoal Creek Walk - early 2013
  2. 6th & Lamar (former KVET studios) - early 2013
  3. Capital Studios (11th & Trinity) - early 2013
  4. 3rd and Colorado - early 2013
  5. GreenWater - early 2013
  6. Fairmont Hotel - March 2013
  7. New Central Library - Summer 2013
  8. IBC Bank Plaza - 2013
  9. Seaholm - 2013
  10. 7Rio - 2013
  11. StreetLights at Barton Springs - 2013
  12. Broadstone at the Lake - 2013
  13. 300 East 5th Street Hotel
  14. Hotel Van Zandt - 2013
  15. Hotel ZaZa & Apartments -2013
  16. UT System Headquarters -2013
  17. Rainey Center - late 2013

Projects that will be completed in 2013:
  1. The Whitley
  2. Gables Park Plaza II
  3. Eleven Austin
  4. Hyatt Place
  5. RiverView Apartments
  6. Calloway House
  7. 2400 Nueces
  8. West Campus Tower

Projects that will continue construction in 2013:
  1. JW Marriott Hotel
  2. 3eleven Bowie
  3. SkyHouse Austin
  4. East Avenue apartments

I already had GreenWater on there. It would be nice to get updated projections for when some of these will start, if at all.

One that's still a mystery is Trinity Place. When will that start? If they're already taking down billboards on the site, you would expect it would be pretty soon, right? I'm going to tentatively add them.

Syndic Jan 9, 2013 11:15 AM

Also, check out this cool helicopter tour of downtown Austin. It's all going to look very different soon, of course. But it's a cool perspective. It looks really big.

Video Link

lzppjb Jan 9, 2013 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndic (Post 5965690)
One that's still a mystery is Trinity Place. When will that start? If they're already taking down billboards on the site, you would expect it would be pretty soon, right? I'm going to tentatively add them.

A poster on another board had this to say:

Quote:

This is an assumption and falsified rumor...the billboards came down b/c Reagan National Advertising is looking to redo the signs. (link to the permit case folder: https://www.austintexas.gov/devrevie...erRSN=10873806 )

World Class doesn't own the property outright just yet; and they don't have the man-power, nor the capital (despite the name), to complete a project of that magnitude. They had teamed up with a 'real' development outfit, but tried to reneg the agreement at the last second...the big-boys called Natin's bluff and now they're sitting there without a project, and a 'hard-money' note on the land that matures in less than 2-yrs.


KevinFromTexas Jan 9, 2013 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndic (Post 5965690)
Nope. I haven't seen BevoLJ around lately. Maybe someone could edit his post? Or just delete it and post an updated one under their name? Or we could wait for him to return, I guess.

Between hunting down building heights, taking photos and my forum admin duties, I've pretty much run out of time to maintain the front pages.

Only forum staff members can edit other people's posts/threads. I could "deputize" someone, though. They would have the ability to edit posts, including that one. Would anyone be interested? I've been thinking for a while I could use some help with keeping the front pages updated. Hopefully it would be someone who would stick with it and not lose interest.

lzppjb Jan 9, 2013 8:11 PM

http://www.statesman.com/news/busine...x-plans/nTq8m/

Quote:

Lawmakers: Halt Capitol complex plans
American-Statesman Staff

An influential group of Texas lawmakers on Wednesday called for a time-out on unsolicited proposals for public-private projects.

The Texas Sunset Advisory Commission took the vote after a debate about the future of the Capitol complex.

“Did any of us really envision the commercialization of the Capitol complex?” asked Sen. John Whitmire, D-Houston. “How do we put the genie back in the bottle? I think we made a mistake.”

While the brief debate focused on plans for fully developing the Capitol complex, the freeze on unsolicited proposals would extend statewide, including development on state lands in Austin, until after Sept. 1.

The commission, by a vote of 10-2, rejected an amendment to allow unsolicited proposal to continue to be considered until Sept. 1.


BevoLJ Jan 10, 2013 2:55 AM

I can try to get to updating it some. The under construction part should be pretty close. There maybe one I have overlooked, if so please let me know.

Tracking down all the info for new projects is what makes keeping that updated very hard. It is a lot more work than it seems. lol.

Edit: Oh... that one that you linked from the Austin forum I will not keep updated. If someone else wants to do that, that would be great. I do try to keep this thread in the city compilations section updated though. I know there are some proposed buildings from the last month I need to add. I'll try to find their info and get them on there.

ryanbrowne88 Jan 10, 2013 6:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndic (Post 5964151)
Okay guys, so 2012 is over with and it was a pretty good year for Austin. We saw development finally pick up again to pre-2008 recession levels. Many projects were announced and begun. It's looking like 2013 will be even bigger. I figured I'd make a list of downtown projects for the new year. Please correct me if you have more up-to-date information or if I forgot anything. (BTW, we need to update the list on the front page, too.)


Projects that will be starting in 2013:
  1. Shoal Creek Walk - early 2013
  2. 6th & Lamar (former KVET studios) - early 2013
  3. Capital Studios (11th & Trinity) - early 2013
  4. 3rd and Colorado - early 2013
  5. GreenWater - early 2013
  6. Fairmont Hotel - March 2013
  7. New Central Library - Summer 2013
  8. IBC Bank Plaza - 2013
  9. Seaholm - 2013
  10. 7Rio - 2013
  11. StreetLights at Barton Springs - 2013
  12. Broadstone at the Lake - 2013
  13. 300 East 5th Street Hotel
  14. Hotel Van Zandt - 2013
  15. Hotel ZaZa & Apartments -2013
  16. UT System Headquarters -2013
  17. Rainey Center - late 2013

Projects that will be completed in 2013:
  1. The Whitley
  2. Gables Park Plaza II
  3. Eleven Austin
  4. Hyatt Place
  5. RiverView Apartments
  6. Calloway House
  7. 2400 Nueces
  8. West Campus Tower

Projects that will continue construction in 2013:
  1. JW Marriott Hotel
  2. 3eleven Bowie
  3. SkyHouse Austin
  4. East Avenue apartments

If you are counting 78704 in the list: The Tree and Gibson Flats will both be completed in 2013. The new development at South Lamar Plaza will also continue construction in 2013.

wwmiv Jan 10, 2013 6:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanbrowne88 (Post 5967259)
If you are counting 78704 in the list: The Tree and Gibson Flats will both be completed in 2013. The new development at South Lamar Plaza will also continue construction in 2013.

I'd never even heard of The Tree until you mentioned it just now.

http://liveattree.com/

KevinFromTexas Jan 10, 2013 6:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwmiv (Post 5967261)
I'd never even heard of The Tree until you mentioned it just now.

http://liveattree.com/

Check this out.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=203422

ryanbrowne88 Jan 10, 2013 6:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 5967263)

Ya I am really excited about this complex, the views are going to be awesome! Hopefully it will be for the better in the inevitable transformation of South 1st, like SoCo and SoLa. Plus the rent is actually gonna start at $1100 and not $1400 like every other new development in the 04 haha

wwmiv Jan 10, 2013 7:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 5967263)

Oh! It's the Genesee! I remember this project now.

wwmiv Jan 10, 2013 7:10 AM

Speaking of Big Red Dog projects, I don't remember this update on the Corazon being posted:

http://www.bigreddog.com/preview-of-...-austin-texas/

When does this project start construction (if we have a date)?

Myomi Jan 10, 2013 8:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lzppjb (Post 5965733)
A poster on another board had this to say:


What forum was that quote from?

JoninATX Jan 10, 2013 9:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwmiv (Post 5967277)
Speaking of Big Red Dog projects, I don't remember this update on the Corazon being posted:

http://www.bigreddog.com/preview-of-...-austin-texas/

When does this project start construction (if we have a date)?

It's already U/C

http://sphotos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...48568647_n.jpg

Taken on New Year's Day.

lzppjb Jan 10, 2013 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myomi (Post 5967305)
What forum was that quote from?

shaggybevo on the Bada Bing board.

LoneStarMike Jan 10, 2013 1:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lzppjb (Post 5967395)
shaggybevo on the Bada Bing board.

Myomi, here is a link to the specific post in question. That post also has a link to the permit case folder where Reagan National Advertising is looking to redo the signs.

Syndic Jan 10, 2013 2:23 PM

I didn't know Corazon was under construction already. That's awesome.

I'm apprehensive about using zip codes as a basis for "downtown" because that could inflate the list, be somewhat misleading, and also make it unmanageable. We probably need a Downtown list and a Metro Area list. There's a whole bunch of projects off of Riverside (the South Shore District) that I'm not including, either.

Whether WCCG has the resources to do it or not, that lot is one of the most prime pieces of real estate in Austin because it's right across from the convention center and so close to the lake. You'd think it would be hard not to develop it. Maybe it won't be the Trinity Place development we've seen site plans for, but it will be something, surely. We just don't know when.

JoninATX Jan 10, 2013 2:33 PM

I'm heading out to east Austin his afternoon so I'll get some better pictures.

ryanbrowne88 Jan 10, 2013 3:45 PM

For those interested in the 1155 Barton Springs renderings and photos: http://www.1155bartonsprings.com/subpage/gallery.php

Komeht Jan 10, 2013 4:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lzppjb (Post 5966342)

Really disappointing and really predictable. The state complex will likely be a barren wasteland due to machinations and tactical delays like this 20 years from now. Congrats on holding back "commercialization" we really appreciate you protecting all those surface parking lots, block size low rise parking structures and single use office complex worthy of being in the worst office park in the state of Texas. Job well done. Perfect way to kill the area of town right between the CBD and the University.

Komeht Jan 10, 2013 4:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanbrowne88 (Post 5967586)
For those interested in the 1155 Barton Springs renderings and photos: http://www.1155bartonsprings.com/subpage/gallery.php

Is this project a go now?

ahealy Jan 10, 2013 5:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Komeht (Post 5967630)
Is this project a go now?

I think so...if it's moving through the city...that's a good sign for life. I think it's really nice for a midrise

JoninATX Jan 10, 2013 6:35 PM

I'm happy to see it finally start soon.

Komeht Jan 10, 2013 9:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahealy (Post 5967719)
I think so...if it's moving through the city...that's a good sign for life. I think it's really nice for a midrise

It's certainly an attractive, well designed building. And if they're still targeting 1M to 4M per unit it better be very very very nice. I imagine they're looking very carefully at Barton Place sales.

JoninATX Jan 11, 2013 2:27 AM

Pictures from today

Apple Expansion.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8237/8...39ef01e413.jpg

Red crane at the Carmen Lamar site.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8220/8...e9c7515b5b.jpg

The Corazon apartments.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8227/8...08fd04943d.jpg

JoninATX Jan 11, 2013 2:33 AM

Those are just a few that I want to show. I'll upload the rest tomorrow.

AviationGuy Jan 11, 2013 3:07 AM

My neighborhood listserve (Allandale) is currently debating the fate of Burnet Rd. Some residents are worried that Burnet Rd., with so many alcohol serving establishments moving in, will not be "child friendly". Others have pointed out that "child friendly" is not something to expect from Burnet Rd's future. The neighborhood needs to not waste time fighting reality, and instead focus on walkability issues. It's been an interesting discussion.

Komeht Jan 11, 2013 4:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 5968696)
My neighborhood listserve (Allandale) is currently debating the fate of Burnet Rd. Some residents are worried that Burnet Rd., with so many alcohol serving establishments moving in, will not be "child friendly". Others have pointed out that "child friendly" is not something to expect from Burnet Rd's future. The neighborhood needs to not waste time fighting reality, and instead focus on walkability issues. It's been an interesting discussion.

Right - because as things stand, Burnet road is a child friendly paradise what with the wide lanes, infrequent places to cross, enormous set backs behind acres of parking lots. Allandale could hardly do better than that. Why would they want an adult drinking establishment ruin the whole thing?

Good lord. . .I will never understand these neighborhood types.

ryanbrowne88 Jan 11, 2013 4:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Komeht (Post 5968249)
It's certainly an attractive, well designed building. And if they're still targeting 1M to 4M per unit it better be very very very nice. I imagine they're looking very carefully at Barton Place sales.

Actually I called the agent that is representing the development (for a potential client that would love to buy a unit there) and she said they have switched from selling to leasing. Sigh.....I understand there is a huge demand for leasing but the supply is quickly going to outweigh the demand with all these lease only developments.

Komeht Jan 11, 2013 2:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryanbrowne88 (Post 5968864)
Actually I called the agent that is representing the development (for a potential client that would love to buy a unit there) and she said they have switched from selling to leasing. Sigh.....I understand there is a huge demand for leasing but the supply is quickly going to outweigh the demand with all these lease only developments.

Interesting - I hadn't seen that yet.

I can't imagine it's going to have the same level of finish out as on that website if these are going to be apartments.

I don't see the supply in leasing outweighing demand anytime in the next 5 years and probably much longer if Austin retains its hostile stance against mf housing.

AusTxDevelopment Jan 11, 2013 6:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Komeht (Post 5969243)
Interesting - I hadn't seen that yet.

I can't imagine it's going to have the same level of finish out as on that website if these are going to be apartments.

I don't see the supply in leasing outweighing demand anytime in the next 5 years and probably much longer if Austin retains its hostile stance against mf housing.

Any multifamily housing built in infill locations (aka close-in Austin) will succeed, regardless of the supply. With our traffic issues people want to be as close to town and/or their job as possible. I work & live in Southwest Austin and if lived in Steiner and had to suffer that commute every day I know I would either move or quit. Life is too short to spend a 3rd of it sitting in traffic.

In case you want to see what's in the pipeline, the City of Austin publishes a quarterly Apartment report that lists everything that is permitted or submitted for permitting. Links to current and past versions are at the bottom of their Demographic Data page, and below is a link to their most current version (click on the "Changes" tab):

http://www.austintexas.gov/sites/def...r3q12_pub.xlsx

MichaelB Jan 11, 2013 7:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 5968696)
My neighborhood listserve (Allandale) is currently debating the fate of Burnet Rd. Some residents are worried that Burnet Rd., with so many alcohol serving establishments moving in, will not be "child friendly". Others have pointed out that "child friendly" is not something to expect from Burnet Rd's future. The neighborhood needs to not waste time fighting reality, and instead focus on walkability issues. It's been an interesting discussion.

I think it is very "Child Friendly" to have Mom and Dad Be able to walk to an "adult beverage" establishment and not have to drive home.

wwmiv Jan 11, 2013 8:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelb (Post 5969692)
i think it is very "child friendly" to have mom and dad be able to walk to an "adult beverage" establishment and not have to drive home.

lolz!

actham Jan 13, 2013 1:22 AM

Looks like StreetLights has started. They have equipment there and they were removing the small covered parking structure yesterday and today.

JoninATX Jan 13, 2013 4:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by actham (Post 5971121)
Looks like StreetLights has started. They have equipment there and they were removing the small covered parking structure yesterday and today.



I saw that to, looks like a pretty big hole they dug up.

ahealy Jan 13, 2013 7:24 PM

And still no renderings???

MichaelB Jan 13, 2013 9:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahealy (Post 5971605)
And still no renderings???

those bitches.

It is rather odd.

The ATX Jan 13, 2013 9:32 PM

...maybe because it'll look like this?

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4...22Oakmount.jpg


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