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Stunning. Other than 175 Park Avenue, this is my favorite proposal out there now. Really hope Wynn gets this, because if the resort in Vegas is any indication, they don't do anything but ultra high end.
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It shouldn't be a Casino ... and Gehry shouldn't be allowed to even visit NY let alone design buildings for the city.
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Promising renderings, BUT, I do not trust Related Companies... In HY Phase 1 Related totally did a bait-and-switch on the tower designs.... In the competition for developing HY they fronted with having a proposal with several towers that had different textures and designs (and not just glass facades), but they ended up building a mass of glass constructs that by in large comes off grossly untextured and monolithic. If they are going to do Phase 2 they have to be beholden contractually to not expand the glass blob they erected in Phase 1. |
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30 Hudson could not be the main focal point of the Hudson Yards.. way too blah and short. The one thing I'd like to see is the Wynn Tower another 200 feet taller! I know.. I know.. I'm getting supertall greedy!! LOL! |
Looks great.
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Not a bait-and-switch at all. You may not remember what the original planned towers looked like, but what we actually got is far superior, trust me. Of course, these designs will be refined more, that’s to be expected. We watched that play out in the last phase, really in most proposals. Related had already had a few alterarions to the designated site plans. |
My one beef is that they look a little shorter than expected. At that angle you'd expect a near 1,400 footer to tower over 30HY.
While they may not be signature towers height wise, they are tall and gorgeous. |
There have been a lot of changes over time. But this is the rendering of the site plan that Related won with. (They actually are the runner up, but that’s another story).
https://a4.pbase.com/o3/06/102706/1/...del1121074.JPG But after some changes were approved, they were moving forward with this version… https://a4.pbase.com/o9/06/102706/1/...iWGZ.ren19.jpg A change of heart (and design) got us here… https://a4.pbase.com/o1/06/102706/1/...aIS5ij.r22.jpg A design refined further still…. https://a4.pbase.com/o1/06/102706/1/...GsLTpn.r12.jpg https://a4.pbase.com/o1/06/102706/1/...csV5AH.r31.jpg Some early designs which featured phase 2… https://a4.pbase.com/o9/06/102706/1/...rendering2.jpg https://a4.pbase.com/o9/06/102706/1/...V8NA8V.r2b.JPG https://a4.pbase.com/o9/06/102706/1/...OEbF1f.r5b.jpg Closest we ever got to seeing any actual designs is a feature at the Edge… https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...p.IMG_4916.jpg |
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Who knows who they have now, but these were some of the names mentioned involved with phase 2…
https://www.architecturaldigest.com/...a-hudson-yards Frank Gehry, Santiago Calatrava, Robert A.M. Stern, and Heatherwick Studio Reported to Work on Phase Two of Hudson Yards By Tim Nelson February 22, 2018 Quote:
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https://www.architecturalrecord.com/...ards-discussed For Kohn Pedersen Fox, Arquitectonica, Robert A.M. Stern, and West 8, which collaborated on the proposal from the Related Companies and Goldman Sachs, the project is all about variety. “What we’re really talking about is trying to make a neighborhood for people to live and work in,” Stern said. “A New York neighborhood which is diverse in its functions, diverse in its architecture, diverse in its typologies, and one that can grow incrementally and change over time as the project goes forward, even after completion.” Hoping to reflect existing Manhattan city blocks more than a singular, super-sized development, the proposal calls for buildings of varying heights, styles, and materials, from bricks and mortar to glass. "Variety".... not quite. |
well, as expected this is most certainly the diva of the casino proposals.
aside from the obvious of getting the yards built out, what i like best is that the casino entrance is so dam classy you can't even tell its a casino. :cool: |
I don't think the Related design is at fault. But I think the three added boxy towers, although they have been very successful, detract from the overall site. I don't mind the Spiral but the 50 Hudson and 15 Hudson with the Spiral seem to create a boring wall similar to the downtown office boxes that they built along the waterfront in the 60s/70s.
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I think from their point of view, and from mine as well actually, there is a variety. From 35, to 50, to 30, I would say it's a variety. Is there too much blue glass? With the added towers around it, yes. I don't like the massing of 50, but that's another issue. Quote:
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Manhattan CB4 had it's initial presentation from Related, and it went about as well as you would expect. But it doesn't matter, City Planning will approve the change in site plan. It's the state process that will be the heavyweight fight, and multiple meetings will be had with the community boards again.
Anyway, at about the 1 hour 20 min mark, they get into it. The audio is difficult, especially with people screaming over each other. No new renderings, but a bit more information. Some screenshots below so you don't have to listen to the noise... 1. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards1.png 2. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards2.png 3. Looks like "One Hudson" for the residential building and "40 Hudson" for the office building. These numbers are all over the place. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards3.png 4. Comparison with the previously approved site plan. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards4.png 5. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards5.png 6. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards6.png 7. You can see here the slope of 33rd Street toward the river. The rails are at street level on the western end. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards7.png 8. And here's what was described in the draft, bringing 33rd up to grade along it's length, but keeping the original grade at the western end for access. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards8.png 9. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards9.png |
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