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My impression is that the white loss is primarily in the Northwest and Southwest bungalow belt neighborhoods. There’s definitely a loss of white parents and children, along with a good chunk of people about to retire. The household incomes of the people leaving seem too low for the Lincoln Park/Lakeview area. And there’s quite a lot of single mothers among them. Together with strong Hispanic and Asian growth, several of whom have good incomes… I would imagine there’s a major demographic transition underway in Jefferson Park, Dunning, Belmont Cragin, Bridgeport ,ect. White parents wanting to transfer to a suburban school, selling to Hispanic and Asian families using the proceeds from the housing appreciation of the past few years. Ages 0-19: -13,159 Ages 20-34: -1,466 Ages 35-54: -17,484 Ages 55+: -7,950 Married Household 2021: 158,426 2022: 149,719 Female Household 2021: 25,465 2022: 18,671 Non-family Household - Lives Alone 2021: 260,591 2022: 269,630 Non-family Household - Roommates 2021: 70,077 2022: 69,598 |
The city figure of migrants coming in by bus from texas is around 13,500 since last year but i suspect the number to be much higher. Probably migrants arriving here on their own.
Bridgeport for sure I have noticed more Venezuelans(not just the ones staying at the police station on halsted), South Asian and even Middle Eastern people. Also I'm very chatty with my uber drivers and ive noticed ive had ukranian, turkish and algerian uber drivers tell me they all live or moved recently to Bridgeport. Obviously we dont have hard data yet but from my experience i do believe theres some significant churn going on right now at least in BP and the general area. |
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I’m under the impression that the father is the only one who officially passed through Chicago’s shelter system. But five other family members came later by Amtrak via Denver, and I don’t see when Chicago would have included them in the official tally. They’ve ended up living in Englewood, and my Uber driver for 4th of July was telling me about the large Hispanic influx into Englewood near her old home. Quote:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/immig...htmlstory.html Born in the USA: Venezuelan mother gives birth https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...eb4-story.html |
Well.... This is one way to bring our population numbers up........
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I also recently had an uber driver working under someone else's account also from Venezuela, who told me him and his girlfriend had initially settled in miami but due to the cost of living they came here. and also living in englewood. I know there was already alot of mexicans moving to west englewood but this other surge seems to be centered around venezuelans. |
It’s a bit wild to see Texas-like numbers suddenly appearing in Chicago’s Hispanic household estimates.
Households with a Hispanic Householder Chicago 2022: 260,927 2021: 244,664 2019: 231,394 2018: 230,411 2017: 218,636 2016: 224,226 2015: 221,248 2014: 220,364 2013: 211,457 2012: 209,162 2011: 209,527 2021-2022: +16,263 2019-2021: +13,270 2018-2019: +993 2017-2018: +11,775 2016-2017: -5,590 2015-2016: +2,978 2014-2015: +894 2013-2014: +8,907 2012-2013: +2,295 2011-2012: -365 Houston 2022: 353,597 2021: 334,267 2019: 319,471 2018: 303,258 2017: 291,299 2016: 311,344 2015: 297,541 2014: 289,993 2013: 276,726 2012: 260,228 2011: 257,799 2021-2022: +19,330 2019-2021: +14,796 2018-2019: +16,213 2017-2018: +11,959 2016-2017: -20,045 2015-2016: +13,803 2014-2015: +7,548 2013-2014: +13,267 2012-2013: +16,498 2011-2012: +2,429 |
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We need all the immigrants we can get. The city is fumbling this golden opportunity right now by not getting these people a foundation for a successful life here more quickly. Now the latest is that they are paying $29m for these dumb tent cities to the same company that Florida is using to ship migrants all over the country... can't make this up. |
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I can't tell if you just want to blame the city or you just didn't bother to educate yourself about how this works at the federal (USCIS) level. All the city can do is basically give them places to stay, and if they want give them legal aid and money (if they really wanted to, obviously that's a whole different story). The whole thing is bullshit. Part of my mom's side came here under situations that would have made them refugees but they didn't have refugee status back then. My great grandma, great uncles and aunt fled on foot for months across Europe after 200 people in their town were murdered, including their neighbors, and their house burned down. They had nothing and came to this country and guess what? The federal government didn't block them from being able to work. They were able to work right away. So I'm sorry to tell you but the city has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that USCIS makes it extremely hard for anyone (even Visa holders) to be here and support themselves. |
and with the stroke of a pen...
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I'm kinda glad I'm hearing this side the the migrant issue because the people at my job are P-I-S-S-E-D. In a nutshell, they don't like having the compete with the migrants for resources.
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On the other hand, immigration can be very healthy, as the very existence of the Chicago Hot Dog shows..... I would much rather have a streamlined efficient process that takes advantage of new technologies and massive data mining to help expedite the process of determining who exactly is coming across the border. |
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The difference is that the US and local governments didn't tell them they had to wait to work. Most, like my family, could work.right away. But I do agree it puts stress on local governments and isn't good but this is the result of decades old federal government work permit policy |
All good points..... And it's not like Chicago doesn't have the room to accommodate people. Shit, if anything, In the long run, this could be something to spark some rejuvenation in parts of the South side. The thought of having a South American cultural enclave embedded somewhere on the South side sounds like a really cool thing. We have a sizeable Mexican presence across parts of the city, but (correct me if I'm wrong), there isn't nearly a S. American presence here.
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Water flows downhill. Air fills the vacuum. We can hardly be shocked that otherwise normal people from a collapsing country think the dangerous journey is worth it under the current circumstances. My most radical opinion is that American immigration has been running too low for almost a century, and a lot of the country’s pathologies are linked to that. There hasn’t been enough immigration from the usual entry ports to make it far past the coast to areas that need people, or for communities to establish themselves in more affordable areas. This country has forgotten what real growth looks like. |
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My wife came.to America a decade or.so ago and is now a citizen. I work with and employ many people here on visa or green card. The federal government makes it near impossible for anyone to even be here. We are a capitalist country and yet people cry at "immigrants stealing my job." Sorry but if you are for capitalism then you have no reason to bitch about that part. But the key thing is our attitudes to immigration and federal policy has put unnecessary strain on local governments and other organizations to foot a bill because they cannot even legally work for literal months and potentially over a year or 2. |
Another reason to question the Census year-to-year population figures. The number of students in CPS has grown this year compared to last year. This is the first increase since the 2011-12 school year.
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