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NYguy Jan 23, 2021 6:05 PM
One thing about this proposal is that it overlaps with the Hudson Yards. The 2 towers on the western end (1 office and 1 residential) would rise just below Larry Silverstein's Hudson Yards development at 41st Street. The large office tower, along with Silverstein's office tower, would provide an anchoring of the northern Hudson Yards. On the other hand, the ramps will form the northern terminus to Hudson River Boulevard and park. So I'm hoping the design would at least be something nice to look at.


Here's some of the phasing that would go into effect to get the complex built, which would begin with the decking over access tunnels...



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NYguy Jan 26, 2021 12:44 AM
https://www.bondbuyer.com/news/mix-a...nd-bus-project

Mix and match: How Port Authority intends to fund bus project


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By Paul Burton
January 25, 2021


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The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey's plans for a new Manhattan bus terminal — a trophy project involving a long-scorned facility and stigmatized mode of travel — beg the question of who will pay for it and how much.

While some media accounts pegged at the cost at up to $10 billion, Executive Director Rick Cotton sidestepped estimates on Thursday as the 100-year-old bistate authority released its final scoping report.

“We don’t want to quote an amount that’s too high or too low,” he said. “We want to wait until we get greater clarity on each of the elements. If we put a number out there, we want to stand behind it.”
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The Port Authority submitted the report to the Federal Transit Administration with a request for an environmental review. Full construction could take up to a decade.

It is hinging its build-in-place project on a four-pronged approach that would include air-rights proceeds up to four new high-rise towers — three office and one residential — and funding from payments-in-lieu of taxes, or PILOTs, from developers subject to city approval.

The Port Authority, which started the process in 2013, winnowed 30 options to the preferred one it unveiled Thursday. The authority intends to tap $3 billion from its 2017 to 2026 capital program and seek financial assistance from new or existing federal infrastructure programs.

“This was the structure for funding the Moynihan Train Hall,” Cotton said.

NYguy Feb 11, 2021 11:51 PM
Missed this little bit...


https://www.metro-manhattan.com/blog...evamp-by-2030/

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February 11, 2021
Alan Rosinsky


When work is finished on the project, somewhere in 2030, PABT will be renamed the Midtown Bus Terminal and forever change the Midtown West landscape. The bigger, $51 billion Midtown West redevelopment plan will bring 196,000 new jobs to the area and create much-needed affordable housing and outdoor space to this part of the city.

The next steps in Cuomo’s master plan include fueling $16 billion into Penn Station’s reconstruction, which involves expanding the complex to 40% more train capacity and adding more than eight new underground train tracks. This phase of the project is expected to create 60,000 direct jobs. Afterward, up to 14 new buildings from Broadway to the Hudson will yield 20 million square feet of commercial and residential development and 1,400 affordable housing units.

Hadn't thought about a name change, but surely they can come up with something better.

Busy Bee Feb 12, 2021 2:21 AM
I'm not sure what's wrong with Port Authority Bus Terminal. That is what it is.

NYC2ATX Feb 12, 2021 6:32 AM
I have a feeling that they believe that the term "Port Authority," specifically with respect to the bus terminal, has a negative connotation they are looking to dispel with this brand new building. I also have a feeling that it will end up being named for someone important at some point closer to its opening date.

NYguy, those illustrations are highly informative and highly appreciated :tup:

Busy Bee Feb 12, 2021 2:36 PM
https://d144mzi0q5mijx.cloudfront.ne...U/Busorama.png
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NYguy Feb 12, 2021 4:38 PM
^ LOL, submit that.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 9188682)
I'm not sure what's wrong with Port Authority Bus Terminal. That is what it is.
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Originally Posted by NYC2ATX (Post 9188793)
I have a feeling that they believe that the term "Port Authority," specifically with respect to the bus terminal, has a negative connotation they are looking to dispel with this brand new building. I also have a feeling that it will end up being named for someone important at some point closer to its opening date.

NYguy, those illustrations are highly informative and highly appreciated :tup:

Yeah, I think they are trying to do away with any negative connotations too, but "Midtown Bus Terminal" sounds just a step below what it is now. I agree it will probably have a more formal name somewhere down the line, but they should just leave the name as it is until then.

Busy Bee Feb 12, 2021 4:57 PM
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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 9189106)
^ LOL, submit that.
Extra points if you know what that name comes from.

NYguy Feb 12, 2021 5:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 9189133)
Extra points if you know what that name comes from.
Google tells me its the font. But I like to imagine it's a 70's era something, lol.

BTW, this thing is extending all the way to the Javits Center. A whacky name would be the Jacob K. Javits Bus Terminal and Convention Center. Or they should just call it Hell's Kitchen. That would be fun. "Attention passengers, we are now arriving in Hell's Kitchen".

Busy Bee Feb 12, 2021 6:46 PM
^^^

It is a typeface(font) but it's a typeface named after an advertising program's "batwings" that were attached to many MTA buses from the late 1960s through the early 1980s:


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/70/4f...d214ec9b9c.jpg
GM bus

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...NULK5qEk3mLoaw
GM bus

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GM bus

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...DvGEA68zxlMxqg
GM bus

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pr...R-XBBpkD7gYuSg
Flxible bus in Chicago

Busy Bee Feb 12, 2021 6:52 PM
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Originally Posted by nyguy (Post 9189160)
[o]r they should just call it hell's kitchen. That would be fun. "attention passengers, we are now arriving in hell's kitchen".
Hell's Bus Station:D

NYguy Feb 12, 2021 7:11 PM
The glory days of buses.

You know, together with the construction of Empire Station, these 2 transit projects will bring major construction activity to the west side in the next decade. And that's not even counting the skyscrapers.

Visionist Feb 13, 2021 10:16 AM
Does the NYT building stand to lose its views westward? I can see something taller going up right next door.

Watch the NYT run a smear campaign against the developers to save their views hahaha.

NYguy Feb 13, 2021 4:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Visionist (Post 9189988)
Does the NYT building stand to lose its views westward? I can see something taller going up right next door.

Watch the NYT run a smear campaign against the developers to save their views hahaha.
Eminent domain was used to get that headquarters built. If they wanted views forever, they should have built on the river. 3 Hudson Yards will have some nice westward views.

NYguy Apr 20, 2021 5:42 PM
Overview of the area

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Raysiri Apr 21, 2021 12:41 AM
Will there be a supertall skyscraper (just one) be built in the complex by 2030s? It should buy air rights and rise to about 1,042 feet tall.

jbermingham123 Apr 21, 2021 2:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Raysiri (Post 9255549)
Will there be a supertall skyscraper (just one) be built in the complex by 2030s? It should buy air rights and rise to about 1,042 feet tall.
Im hoping for something around twice that height for this site

NYguy Apr 21, 2021 4:27 AM


This is the development plan.

mrnyc Apr 21, 2021 1:44 PM
so an eventual tower is allowed for only half of main bus station terminal at 8th ave? seems like a waste of half the main building. maybe they want to save it for additions for more bus services if need be???

NYguy Apr 21, 2021 3:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 9255899)
so an eventual tower is allowed for only half of main bus station terminal at 8th ave? seems like a waste of half the main building. maybe they want to save it for additions for more bus services if need be???
Probably has to do with the core of the office tower taking up space.


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