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Buildings Over 500ft (Roof Height) Built Chicago: 100 Toronto: 23 U/C Chicago: 1 Toronto: 18 Proposed: Chicago: 12 Toronto: 39 So like I said, it will never happen. Once the Chicago economy recovers, a mass amount of projects will once again mobilize and new proposals will come to the table. |
Looks like the gap will be substantially narrowed however. I know I'd never say 'never.' This assumes that Chicago will hold serve. I don't.
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In the early 20th century, people had hoped that Toronto would one day become the equal to cites like Cleveland or Detroit. We all know how that turned out. |
HERE HERE! Totally agreed Ramako.
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Chicago seems to have an edge on building office space, but Toronto has the edge on residential. Hard to say how it'll play out really. I definitely think the deciding factor will be in the upper echelons. Neither city is going to win by having more 500 footers. It will be very tall towers, and Toronto would need something at least 375m.
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Toronto's more globally known than Chicago? Ehh I'd argue that. Chicago's been the setting of enough famous events and films to make it more famous as a city.
You don't see Chicago standing in as a filming location for Toronto. |
I don't disagree however, Hollywood caters to 300 million people that largely suck at world geography.
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I wouldn't say Toronto has the edge on residential when you can build a 25 storey condo tower with 100 units and 4.5 metre slab to slab height on a 10 storey parking podium over a 50 storey building with 9 foot ceilings and 500 units. A supertall may help Toronto but, I don't see it as a deciding factor when even in Chicago they are so few and far between. |
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Anyway I think one day Toronto will surpass Chicago in most metrics as countries centralize their key business operations Chicago will be left behind as New York will see the lions share. The same phenomenon will help Toronto continue its torrid growth. Where I do think people are wrong is their timeline. I dont see Chicago just kicking over any time soon, it is in line for another boom cycle and all of a sudden Toronto isn't going to look like it's going to steam roll past it any time soon. This is going to be a long and interesting race, but in the long run my money is on Toronto. |
On a side note, isn't it amazing that Toronto, a great world city in and of itself, is within a two hour flight of so many of the other great world cities: New York, Chicago, Montreal, Boston, not to mention Philadelphia, Washington, Quebec City, Ottawa, etc. I used to envy Europeans for having such easy access to other major world cities, often a short train ride away, but the Great Lakes/northeast region can definitely go toe-to-toe with almost any part of Europe on that front. The region is absolutely loaded with amazing cities.
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Remember than when talking skyline, I'm talking actual skyline, not the cities' appearance from street level. In terms of street level impressiveness, Chicago is a lot farther ahead and will be much harder to catch due to the incredible historical layers and the assortment of midrise and highrise buildings that wouldn't even be considered skyscrapers by today's standards. |
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here is my attempt at that angle with my model .... not the same i know, but still.
http://i899.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/future_6.jpg |
Great stuff as always insertnamehere.
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