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NYguy Nov 29, 2025 4:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10518141)
Will the office tower now be on the north side of the site?

The office tower will be on the north side.

ChiND Nov 29, 2025 4:49 AM

Thanks. I wonder if Related will use the same design that it had proposed for the south side of the site.

NYguy Nov 30, 2025 1:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10518427)
Thanks. I wonder if Related will use the same design that it had proposed for the south side of the site.

It’ll be a larger building that won’t require a school at the base. It won’t be the same design, but it’s possiblevit coukd be somerhing similar. Keep in mind that the new version will be built on the platform.

ChiND Nov 30, 2025 2:54 AM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 10518764)
It’ll be a larger building that won’t require a school at the base. It won’t be the same design, but it’s possiblevit coukd be somerhing similar. Keep in mind that the new version will be built on the platform.

:cheers::cheers::cheers:

ChiND Nov 30, 2025 3:06 AM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 10518764)
It’ll be a larger building that won’t require a school at the base. It won’t be the same design, but it’s possiblevit coukd be somerhing similar. Keep in mind that the new version will be built on the platform.

I look forward to Phase II. :cheers:

NYguy Dec 4, 2025 4:50 PM

70 Hudson itself is basically spoken for, so not surprising at all Related wants to get on with more office here…..

https://www.crainsnewyork.com/real-e...00-square-foot


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Related Cos. is planning new towers at Hudson Yards because all the space in the massive office complex is filled, said CEO Jeff Blau


ChiND Dec 4, 2025 4:54 PM

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montydawg Dec 4, 2025 6:55 PM

Considering the ‘ground level’ where the Vessel is in phase I is about 15 feet above the road surface of 11th avenue, I would think they would want to build a pedestrian bridge to connect phase I and phase II over 11th avenue. I know pedestrian bridges in urban cores are now considered out of style and bad urban form, but I believe that would really help unite phase I with II and create a cohesive pedestrian environment along the entire campus. I believe however that new pedestrian bridges are banned or require some special approval. I also didn’t see anything on the master plan for this. Does anyone know more about this? I realize the high line will provide circulation between the two nodes but I would think Related would want to connect the phases in a better manner, especially if they plan any retail component for phase II

NYguy Dec 4, 2025 7:07 PM

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Originally Posted by montydawg (Post 10520971)
Considering the ‘ground level’ where the Vessel is in phase I is about 15 feet above the road surface of 11th avenue, I would think they would want to build a pedestrian bridge to connect phase I and phase II over 11th avenue. I know pedestrian bridges in urban cores are now considered out of style and bad urban form, but I believe that would really help unite phase I with II and create a cohesive pedestrian environment along the entire campus. I believe however that new pedestrian bridges are banned or require some special approval. I also didn’t see anything on the master plan for this. Does anyone know more about this? I realize the high line will provide circulation between the two nodes but I would think Related would want to connect the phases in a better manner, especially if they plan any retail component for phase II


The Vesel level of the plaza is reached from 11th Avenue via a series of “ramps” and stairways. Both 15 and 35 Hudson are accesed directly from 11th Avenue. There will be no need for a pedestrian crossing.



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ChiND Dec 4, 2025 8:15 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 10520875)
70 Hudson itself is basically spoken for, so not surprising at all Related wants to get on with more office here…..

https://www.crainsnewyork.com/real-e...00-square-foot

This suggests that 625 Madison will be residential. Otherwise, Blau likely would have mentioned office there. I'm very eager to see more renderings of that. Hopefully, there will be a lot of Stern-style ornamentation and not simply a limestone box sans frills.

NYguy Dec 4, 2025 9:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10521034)
This suggests that 625 Madison will be residential. Otherwise, Blau likely would have mentioned office there. I'm very eager to see more renderings of that. Hopefully, there will be a lot of Stern-style ornamentation and not simply a limestone box sans frills.

It should be. Earlier, it was suggested that Related could switch to office, but that appears not to be the case according to recent DOB filings.

ChiND Dec 4, 2025 9:26 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 10521065)
It should be. Earlier, it was suggested that Related could switch to office, but that appears not to be the case according to recent DOB filings.

Agreed.

NYguy Dec 20, 2025 1:02 AM

As far as office space goes, the office tower here is the largest in the pipeline….


https://comptroller.nyc.gov/newsroom...december-2025/

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Western Rail Yard. The office component of this development is a 2.8 msf tower. Development is dependent on public financing of a platform on the MTA rail yard.


The others…



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ChiND Dec 20, 2025 1:41 AM

Assuming that a deal is, in fact, “sealed” at 175 Park, I hope that the tower at the western yards is the next to get a tenant. I’m anxious for HYW to proceed.

ssh Dec 20, 2025 4:13 AM

Isn't construction/financing not dependent on finding a tenant in this case?

ChiND Dec 20, 2025 4:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ssh (Post 10528415)
Isn't construction/financing not dependent on finding a tenant in this case?

I think that’s true for the platform, but I’d like to see the office and two residential towers rising simultaneously.

NYguy Dec 20, 2025 6:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ssh (Post 10528415)
Isn't construction/financing not dependent on finding a tenant in this case?

Correct. But Related likely has tenants lined up anyway. 70 Hudson was snatched up pretty quickly, and Related has been itching to get another office tower going.

ChiND Dec 20, 2025 2:09 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 10528456)
Correct. But Related likely has tenants lined up anyway. 70 Hudson was snatched up pretty quickly, and Related has been itching to get another office tower going.

You’re addressing the platform and residential buildings right? Since all of the buildings seem that they’ll be on the periphery of the site, can they begin construction before the platform? If so, I wonder when Related will start them.

NYguy Jan 11, 2026 2:12 AM

This year, we should finally get renderings for Phase 2 of the railyard development. We have somewhat of an idea of the layout, but we haven't exactly seen it as it was approved. But we do know that the office tower will be larger than what was planned in either version we've seen to date.

As far as the residential towers go, I hope they can keep the design for tower A. It's something unique for New York, and fits in with the High Line, despite what the NIMBYs have been crying about.

In either case, we've already come a long way in Hudson Yards, with much more to go and forthcoming.



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The office tower, being located above a podium now, will likely not be a similar design to what was proposed....


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The platform in relation to the tunnel currently under construction for the Gateway project...


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Made a quick check in on the Yards...


JANUARY 9, 2026


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Work continues on the tunnel casing...


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The new 10th Avenue facade is an improvment...


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ChiND Jan 11, 2026 2:45 AM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 10518420)
The office tower will be on the north side.

Thanks

ssh Jan 11, 2026 3:11 AM

Hopefully 11th Ave's 6 lanes will be cut down to 4 with bike lanes and a center median lined with trees. I'm sure Related would chip in.

ChiND Jan 11, 2026 4:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ssh (Post 10536159)
Hopefully 11th Ave's 6 lanes will be cut down to 4 with bike lanes and a center median lined with trees. I'm sure Related would chip in.

I agree. 10th and 11th need massive road diets. Three lanes should suffice.

NYguy Jan 11, 2026 4:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ssh (Post 10536159)
Hopefully 11th Ave's 6 lanes will be cut down to 4 with bike lanes and a center median lined with trees. I'm sure Related would chip in.

They're not focused on anything like that. That stretch of 11th Avenue isn't a particularly heavily pedestrian circulated area. A bike lane, maybe. I don't see a median in the future here.



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You can see the bike land on 10th here...



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ChiND Jan 17, 2026 12:49 AM

NY Guy (or any architects/engineers):

Could Related build this tower by 2032 for SG?

https://seekingalpha.com/news/453999...rters---report

NYguy Jan 17, 2026 2:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10539465)
NY Guy (or any architects/engineers):

Could Related build this tower by 2032 for SG?

https://seekingalpha.com/news/453999...rters---report


I'm sure they could. But options already further along like 15 Penn, 2 WTC, or even 3 Hudson should be better options in that short term. But they would probably like to stay in the Park Avenue area. Who knows.

ChiND Jan 18, 2026 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 10539642)
I'm sure they could. But options already further along like 15 Penn, 2 WTC, or even 3 Hudson should be better options in that short term. But they would probably like to stay in the Park Avenue area. Who knows.

Isn’t the HYII tower basically ready to go once there’s a tenant or do they have to excavate? I’m not sure how it works at that site.

It seems that BP’s site is the one that’s most ready to go, but if SG is the tenant, six years seems to be sufficient time.

NYguy Jan 18, 2026 7:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10539931)
Isn’t the HYII tower basically ready to go once there’s a tenant or do they have to excavate? I’m not sure how it works at that site.


They're waiting on final, official sign off on the financing for the deck. That's a formality, but hasn't happened yet, isn't schedule for this month, and they only meet every other month. What follows then is the ordinary mobilization of work and materials.

ChiND Jan 18, 2026 7:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 10540245)
They're waiting on final, official sign off on the financing for the deck. That's a formality, but hasn't happened yet, isn't schedule for this month, and they only meet every other month. What follows then is the ordinary mobilization of work and materials.

Thanks. I think you’ve said that the deck and residential towers will start regardless of when an office tenant is secured. Do you think that the deck will start this year?

NYguy Jan 19, 2026 3:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10540250)
Thanks. I think you’ve said that the deck and residential towers will start regardless of when an office tenant is secured. Do you think that the deck will start this year?

Don't know.

mrnyc Jan 19, 2026 3:45 PM

11th ave will get calmed if and when the western yards deck ever goes up.

don’t hold your breath.

ssh Jan 19, 2026 5:22 PM

It will, I don't think you've been following recent developments.

mrnyc Jan 20, 2026 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ssh (Post 10540676)
It will, I don't think you've been following recent developments.

i know the pilot tax funding plan for the deck was approved last summer, but devil is in the details, including the gateway construction. :shrug:

NYguy Jan 20, 2026 2:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 10540998)
i know the pilot tax funding plan for the deck was approved last summer, but devil is in the details, including the gateway construction. :shrug:

Gateway is moving forward (to which NJ Transhit just shockingly disclosed that service will be reduced to HALF for a month starting mid-February!)

The plan for the western yards we already have. What we don't have are renderings and definitive height figures. Which itself is fine, considering the plan itself is new.

ChiND Jan 20, 2026 3:59 PM

More news about SG.

I hope that they anchor a new tower here.

https://www.crainsnewyork.com/real-e...e-245-park-ave

UrbanImpact Jan 21, 2026 4:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 10541073)
Gateway is moving forward (to which NJ Transhit just shockingly disclosed that service will be reduced to HALF for a month starting mid-February!)

The plan for the western yards we already have. What we don't have are renderings and definitive height figures. Which itself is fine, considering the plan itself is new.

https://www.semafor.com/article/01/2...-rail-projects
Trump administration blocks funding for public broadcasting, rail projects

The Trump administration fended off last-minute Democratic efforts to include funding for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and to restart federal money for rail projects — including the Gateway Tunnel — in a four-bill spending package the House takes up this week, two senior administration officials told Semafor.

The administration also kept out restrictions on interior immigration enforcement and federal layoffs, slashed foreign aid and preserved the ability to reorganize the Education Department.

Democrats believe they got as good a deal as possible on accountability for ICE and research and health care funding. The spin war matters: If Congress is going to avoid a shutdown, each side needs to feel like they won something. The Trump officials insisted their rescissions and threats of spending impoundment motivated Congress to move, and it’s hard to argue with that.

Crawford Jan 21, 2026 4:27 PM

Gateway Tunnel is already fully funded. Just noise from a toddler.

NYguy Jan 21, 2026 6:19 PM

Just more noise as usual. As long as work continues, that’s all that really matters.


https://www.njspotlightnews.org/2025...unnel-project/

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…..an audit last week by the inspector general for Amtrak gave a generally clean bill for the multi-billion Hudson Tunnel project, even as President Donald Trump threatened to end its federal funding.

The audit described “notable progress” in the Hudson Tunnel Project, a $16 billion effort to build a new passenger rail tunnel beneath the Hudson River and repair a separate tunnel, despite Trump’s claim he “terminated” it.
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”We found that Amtrak has made notable progress meeting its near-term obligations for the Hudson Tunnel Project, but the company could reduce its risks and help improve overall project performance by clarifying its role with external partners, engaging all relevant internal stakeholders, and strengthening its document management system,” the inspector general said in a statement.

The Hudson Tunnel Project specifically is a two-tube effort with two halves: a new tunnel, estimated to be done in 2035, and rehabilitation for an existing tunnel, expected by 2038.

The first of two mammoth boring machines – giant drills to dig the tunnels – is set to arrive in January. Drilling will commence in the Palisades, below which the machines — 28 feet wide, 500 feet long and 1,700 tons apiece — will gnaw through sub-surface rock and earth.

In either case, the implications have more to do with Penn Station than it does with the platform construction here.




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NYguy Jan 31, 2026 3:39 AM

https://www.instagram.com/flynyon/p/DUGwTLpEfSB/


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NYguy Jan 31, 2026 7:19 PM

Seeing Related (and others) opt for as much office space as they can build, I would expect that they would maximize the size of the office building here, which could be cut into with either a mixed-use or stand alone hotel component. It would stand just west of 35 Hudson Yards. Can't wait for the details.




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ChiND Jan 31, 2026 7:55 PM

Are there height limits to it though? I wouldn’t want an 1,100’ tall 3m sf tower.

ssh Jan 31, 2026 8:08 PM

If there are really as many tenants seeking Class A office as Holliday thinks, then I don't see Related having much trouble filling up an office tower larger than 50 Hudson Yards.

Mulan Feb 1, 2026 9:52 AM

Higher than 50 Hudson Yards, that would be great. I hope they are planning a counterpart to 175 Park Ave here on Phase Two.
When can construction of the platform actually begin?

NYguy Feb 1, 2026 2:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiND (Post 10547388)
Are there height limits to it though?

Why would there be?



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Originally Posted by Mulan (Post 10547586)
When can construction of the platform actually begin?

The New York Industrial Development Agency hasn’t had the final, formal vote yet (a formality). Once that’s settled, I’m sure Related has enough movement in play that work could begin before the end of the year. Everyone wants to strike while the market is hot, which it looks to be for some time now, thanks to the lack of new office supply.

ChiND Feb 1, 2026 2:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 10547636)
Why would there be?

I didn’t know whether, in dealing with the Marxists with respect to financing the platform, they forced height limits and extorted “affordable housing”ransoms.

NYguy Feb 17, 2026 12:37 PM

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/0...-yard-00782312


By JANAKI CHADHA
02/16/2026


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Related still needs to secure an anchor tenant and bring a specific proposal before the largely mayor-appointed board of the little-known Industrial Development Agency, which oversees tax incentives and is housed within the Economic Development Corporation. Mamdani has yet to name his pick to lead the economic development arm, which he is refashioning to focus on “economic justice.”

The Hudson Yards Infrastructure Corporation — a body set up to finance projects in the area — has yet to conduct an analysis to ensure that revenues from the future development would be sufficient to pay back the city-backed debt. The board of that corporation, which is controlled by the mayor, would then need to actually approve the bonds and finalize the terms of the financing.

Finally, the mayor must sign an agreement before the financing structure can go into effect.
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….. the western rail yards project would create a significant infusion of residential units amid a mammoth housing shortage and affordability crisis — an issue that was the centerpiece of Mamdani’s insurgent mayoral campaign. Tinkering with the agreement risks Related walking away, leaving the vast site undeveloped.

Parker, of Related, said the latest plan can “realistically be built and financed, despite the enormous and growing costs of the platform over the working railyard.” Once it secures an anchor tenant — it’s having conversations with a few well-known companies — Related plans to engage with City Hall.
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The local community board’s land use committee discussed the financing scheme at a meeting Wednesday, and the board is planning to write a letter to the new mayor, City Council speaker and comptroller formally asking them to reevaluate the agreement. Some members say the deal received little oversight when it was first advanced last year, and appears to extend city assistance to public benefits that — community members hold — Related previously committed to covering on its own, like the construction of a public school.
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Ellen Baer, an IDA board member, voted in favor of a step to advance the financing deal when it came up in November. She echoed concerns about “the lack of analysis,” but added a word of caution.

“I understand that this is a commitment that was made — anecdotally, verbally, whatever it is, over time — by the city and I do feel that the word of the city has to matter in some of these negotiations and has to go through administration after administration,” she said at the November meeting. “The city has to be an entity on which the private sector can rely in order for us to have ongoing public-private partnerships.”

NYguy Feb 24, 2026 4:02 AM

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