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Those ranking are all wrong.
The third tallest building would still be 111 West 57th Street. The tallest of these would be number 7 behind 270 Park Avenue. |
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The exact rankings can sometimes be confusing. But an idea of what would be the top towers in the city, including planned and under construction towers, using official height numbers, and assuming Related's towers are at stated heights...
Freedom Tower (1 WTC).......,...1,776 ft 175 Park Avenue............,........1,575 ft Central Park Tower...............,...1,550 ft Steinway Tower.......................1,428 ft One Vanderbilt........................1,401 ft 432 Park Avenue.....................1,398 ft 270 Park Avenue.....................1,389 ft Related Tower B.....................1,366 ft 350 Park Avenue.....................1,350 ft 2 WTC...................................1,270 ft 30 Hudson Yards.....................1,269 ft Empire State Building..............1,250 ft Penn 15.................................1,200 ft 1 Bryant Park.........................1,200 ft Related Tower C.....................1,189 ft Related Tower A.....................1,172 ft Some towers to keep an eye on, as they could challenge the top rankings... Affirmation Tower......................1,663 ft Tower Fifth...............................1,550 ft Roosevelt Hotel site...................? 570 5th....................................? 41 W. 57th...............................? 80 South St..............................? There are also the various towers associated with the Penn Station and Port Authority Bus Terminal developments that could challenge as well. |
https://www.globest.com/2024/02/22/r...20240122211054
Related Unveils $12B Project for Western Half of Hudson Yards Developer says it will build three towers, including hotel with casino. By Jack Rogers February 22, 2024 Quote:
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Related casino proposal could face zoning battle Firm’s plans for $12B Hudson Yards development eclipse limits set in 2009 FEB 24, 2024 By David Westenhaver Quote:
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Man I hope they can clear the rezoning hurdles as buildings of this scale would be epic here.
A 1,350+ foot building isn't quite a signature tower as 30HY is nearly 1,300 feet but definitely more than I expected here. Are these heights just the maximum allowable? |
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There is no height limit on site, and the site still isn't really that dense. It's zoned as a superblock, like the other railyard phase, and Manhattan West. The overall FAR still remains around 12. They're amending the layout, which shouldn't really be a problem since there originally wasn't supposed to be two towers in the middle of that phase (it was said because of the tunnel underneath). The affordable housing is still there, as is the school. The only thing changing is the increase in office space, and decrease in the number of condos. The # of affordable housing units will remain the same. The bigger battle is for the casino license itself. |
A reminder of what the current site zoning of the 6.2 msf is…
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Hudson Yards will fail as a project if it doesn't implement a phase 2 that includes housing options that are available to more than just the upscale buyers that phase 1 catered to.
As things are, Hudson Yards is a fairly sterile development without really being a neighborhood in its own right. This is mostly because, by nature of being built over rail yards, it's a fairly isolated area, excepting the people visiting or commuting via the subway. If the developers build just another towering, glorified pleasure palace akin to the grandeur of what the first phase promised, we will just get the same results - a half-empty mall, a closed attraction, and a series of glitzy parks that sit mostly unused. We can and must do better. NYC is a city of people, not consumers. |
I mean you're just incorrect ^.
Hudson Yards has far from failed, it's basically sold out |
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Well, none of that is true. First of all, the railyard development was never meant to be some sort of housing development for affordable apartments. Sure, there are some affordable units that will be available. But to suggest this development is and was an affordable housing development means you just don't know how development works. The Hudson Yards itself was designed as an alternative business district, something that couldn't happen without the 7 line extension. Housing is needed all across the city, and can be built mostly across the city. The pandemic itself had an impact on the mall, but the Neiman Marcus space is was already bought by, and being developed as an extension of the Wells Fargo headquarters, another success by the City and Related. https://newsroom.wf.com/English/news...-/default.aspx In fact, the commercial component of the Hudson Yards has succeeded even Related's expectations, which is why things are shifting away from more residential, which can be built anywhere. As far as Hudson Yards being a neighborhood in it's own right, the area is largely still being developed. You may not like that the mall is upscale, but it was always going to be that. Nobody was going to put up a platform over the railyards to put up minimal developments. As for the casino being an empty attraction, that's just being silly. The casino complex, with it's clubs, restaurants, and theaters is the exact thing that the Hudson Yards needs to draw even more people there who otherwise wouldn't need to be over there. And it will tie in perfectly with the city and state's desire to draw more business to the convention center. New York is a big city. There is a place for everything, but not everything belongs every place. All in all, the Hudson Yards is one of the biggest successes in the City. All you have to do is look at the skyline to see that. Bohbrus https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...5563047f_b.jpg Didier Ilsen https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3e276af4_b.jpg gravesVpelli https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...3e55b0e3_b.jpg |
Even where we are now, it's impressive how far this development has come from the days of open railyards, parking lots, and warehouses.
Jeminix https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...1db8ce5a_h.jpg 9 Mile Productions https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards1.png https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards2.png https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards3.png Where the casino complex would rise... https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards4.png https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards5.png https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards6.png https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards7.png https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards8.png https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...dsonYards9.png https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...sonYards10.png |
A school next to a casino. You have to be freaking kidding me.
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Is the platform for Phase 2 starting?
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