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Curious to see if they will still be using a similarly designed podium for the northern towers. I don't think this is a fully redesigned rendering.
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We've moved on from the casino here. Meanwhile, this bs goes on (and by bs, I'm talking about the idiots involved, not the casino)...
https://www.cityandstateny.com/polit...-skybox-author City Council narrowly bets on Bally’s home rule message, going against local member The City Council’s approval comes after Mayor Eric Adams lowered the threshold to get it passed. By Annie McDonough June 11, 2025 Quote:
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NY Guy, could the large office tower start construction before the deck work commences? I assume that if the platform begins construction in early 2026, it would take at least two years to finish. I don't recall how long it took to complete the eastern deck.
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It’s pretty much one and the same. Related has to finalize its mix for Site C (the northern portion) which could contain office, hotel, and residential components. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...P.IMG_2849.JPG |
So if Related secured a tenant today, could they start the office tower in 2026?
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Can they also build the apartments simultaneously too? It seems like all of the buildings are on the periphery for Phase II, and just the park is in the middle. |
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Thanks. I wonder how tall these apartment towers will be. 4,000 apartments in 3 towers that also contain a school seems like a lot.
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Passed 70HY and activity seems to be starting to prep site for construction now that Deloitte has signed as anchor.
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https://therealdeal.com/new-york/202...-and-saved-2b/
Related’s $2B card trick How Jeff Blau played city government and Wynn https://static.therealdeal.com/wp-co...B-1024x640.jpg By Erik Engquist July 1, 2025 Quote:
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New York OKs financial plan to help bring completion of Hudson Yards Funds are contingent upon finding anchor tenant for proposed office building By Andria Cheng July 1, 2025 Quote:
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"The PILOT financing is contingent upon the developers landing an anchor tenant for the proposed office tower."
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How big was the Foster office tower that was proposed for the south side of the site?
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Probably not. This tower would have slightly more space, up from a 2 msf tower. But overall size and height will be determined by design. A look at some of the newer office towers that have risen in recent years.... 1 Vanderbilt 1.3 msf (1.65 total) https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...CAt5T.5005.JPG 270 Park Avenue 1.87 msf (2.5 total) https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...7.IMG_3355.JPG The Spiral 2.22 msf (2.6 total) https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...XRe.Spiral.JPG 50 Hudson 2.26 msf (2.86 total) https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...50Hudson2b.jpg |
I hope that they build a more dramatic design than the Foster tower that was shown. It would be nice to have something very iconic here.
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I wonder if the residential units will be increased given CoY passed. 4,000 is alot but the site can and should support more.
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The entire zsf allowed for the entire lot is set. Like the eastern yards, it will be built to an insanely low FAR (almost 10). That’s because people somehow think the city is better served by massive amount of open space. Never mind that Hudson River Park, the High Line, the open spaces in eastern yards, and Hudson Boulevard & Park are all right there. More should have been built here. But the 4,000 units seem to have been focused on the 3 towers on the southern half. There is a planned smaller resi tower on the NW side of the site, west of the office tower and hotel. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...SizeRender.jpg https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...e.IMG_1472.JPG |
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whatever gets the western yards finally decked over i am down with.
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A little more on specifics from Related...
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Here’s hoping for a decent design and not another chunky box. Lol
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This is going to be magnificent.
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It's still not entirely clear what the podiums will contain. A movie theater complex like was originally being considered on the eastern half would be nice. Related hasn't spoken much about the podiums, just that they will be lower than what was planned with the casino. https://a4.pbase.com/g13/06/102706/2....a6427279.JPEG https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...lFCLuoW.a4.jpg |
The current version of the plan is based on this earlier version of the alternative scenario. Plans were for a 1.5 msf office tower (they were also planning a 2.2 msf tower on site B that will now be 2 residential towers.)
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While there are firms ready to jump into the newly built towers, some of the older towers in prime locations and investments in upgrades manage to hold on. Still, I expect Related and the other developers of proposed office towers won't have trouble in the coming years grabbing tenants. Too many to go around, so little being built.
https://therealdeal.com/new-york/202...-office-lease/ Paul Weiss expands on massive Midtown office lease Sublease of 85K sf brings total space at 1345 Sixth to 850K sf Jul 3, 2025 Quote:
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SOM hasn't updated the project page yet, so last look at these renderings...
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With the casino dead, time to go back to old school bitchin…
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Folks, the article wasn’t an attempt to steer this thread into personal politics. If and when this is affected at all, we will touch on it - as it relates to this development. Until then, the politics go elsewhere.
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Always sad to see...
https://www.enr.com/articles/61715-w...tunnel-project Worker Falls to Death at NYC Hudson Yards Tunnel Project The fatality occurred at the Gateway Tunnel site in New York City https://www.enr.com/ext/resources/20...p?t=1761262550 By Jim Parsons Quote:
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Everything is controversial with these people...
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That’s good news! Hopefully, the platform will start in 2026.
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The Greatest City in the World!!!
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Will the office tower now be on the north side of the site?
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