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Western Rail Yards Plan Faces Scrutiny at City Council Hearing Despite Developer’s Last-Minute Housing Pledge https://i0.wp.com/w42st.com/wp-conte...50%2C703&ssl=1 by Dashiell Allen 4/29/2025 Quote:
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CASINO dropped from the proposal.
https://www.crainsnewyork.com/politi...nces-deal-city Related and Wynn drop casino bid, Hudson Yards buildout advances in deal NICK GARBER May 19, 2025 Quote:
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While I’m disappointed, it appears that the city agreed to conditions that will permit the construction of the platform. I hope that work on the platform starts soon and does not wait until a tenant is found for the office building.
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While I am happy the project will move forward, this is nothing but an embarrassment for the City and State. While the NIMBYs technically aren’t to blame, they are the major factor, same as the Amazon debacle. This is not the way.
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It seems that HY has a strong demand for offices anyway. I am surprised that the bid is dropped as I thought it was one of the stronger ones. I hope Coney Island gets it now.
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Also, raising the amount of affordable units from 324 to 400 out of over 4,000 luxury units is ridiculous. Hudson Yards is already the most expensive neighborhood in the city, yet they will call this a win. That’s because thevpeople most affected by this or in need are apathetic to the development process. |
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/19/n...son-yards.html
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Updated site plan.
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Not a huge deal if the hotel tower that was supposed to be on top of it could still get built and be a supertall.
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For Related (and us) it was more about getting this phase built. All of this still has to be approved. But as far as the casino siting process goes, it’s a shame Related never got to bid, this being one of the more viable and lucrative locations for the city and state, in terms if what that represents. They aren’t opening casinos just for the sake of opening casinos. But Related says this can begin as soon as next year, assuming approvals are finalized. |
I'm glad the platform is moving forward. Will be fine with an office tower instead of a casino.
I bet you this means the Metropolitan Park proposal is guaranteed a license. They have, by far, the biggest pockets and grandest ambitions of the remaining contenders, and basically no NIMBY opposition. The other two licenses prolly go to the two existing casinos, with maybe the Coney proposal as a dark horse if one falters. |
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Meanwhile, Related's site plan now reverts to the alternative scenario, which is basically this version with some minor changes (swap out site B with residential). It's what's working through approvals now that the casino is dropped. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...yml6tC5.a1.jpg https://a4.pbase.com/g13/06/102706/2....a6427279.JPEG https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...SizeRender.jpg |
So we are getting 6 hopefully reasonably tall towers?
I can live with that. Hopefully the office is a supertall. |
the cost of the deck has at least doubled. if they think they can build out anyway with a pilot deal and without a casino that's interesting. i'll wait to see it happen.
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Looking forward to seeing some fresh renderings. Wondering if the height for tower A will be bumped back up.
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This will all have to be spelled out very soon, as they are nearing the end of the approval process. Not a defense of the NIMBYs, but it’s a shame the blame is being laid at their doorstep. In truth, it’s about the politicians, who couldn’t understand or explain what the “site plan” was. The changes fell into what was agreed with, as far as the residential/commercial ratio goes.
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I am sorry that Related has abandoned the Casino project. Perhaps they should have waited for the arrival of the new mayor and the new administration before deciding. As for the new project, I have to say that I do not like it. Is it possible that the office tower cannot reach 1,350ft? Is it that complicated? For the rest, it seems more designed to fill the space on the platform above the railway yard, than a true innovative study. It could have been done better...
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Since adding additional housing appeared to be a concession to support the casino plan, I wonder if they will drop the additional housing and go back to the original plan.
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This is exhausting. At least the platform financing and construction seem imminent.
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Now, we have what could potentially be 4 supertall towers rising in the second phase (that remains to be seen, as most of it isn't really designed yet). The podium, while reduced in height, will still get built, though there will be a pedestrian "thruway" that devides it. If there is any point to it at all, its that now the development won't have a casino. It's great that this will finally get built and completed (before the WTC even), but I see nothing in this second phase to attract anyone outside of the people who live and work there. Of course, the High Line will still attract tourists, but Hudson Yards will remain as is. As planned in 2009 with 8 towers, compared to 6 in the current plan...the biggest difference is the removal of the 2 center towers (which were never supposed to be there to begin with). The size of the development remains the same. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...bLye5U.d12.jpg The current plan is based on this modified plan that was submitted as an alternative should the casino not advance... https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...3Mc7g4.d13.jpg I would assume SOM is still working on the development... https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...YahzvP.d15.jpg https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...W5bVGh.d16.jpg The 4,000 housing units are concentrated in the 3 buildings on the southern half. Obviously, the height numbers will change, especially on the north where the podium was reconfigured and programming is still in flux.... https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...SizeRender.jpg https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...SizeRender.jpg https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...SizeRender.jpg |
Meanwhile, the tunnel casing should be complete next year, in time for any work to begin...
https://tunnelingonline.com/hudson-y...halfway-point/ Hudson Yards Concrete Casing – Section 3 Passes Halfway Point By TBM Staff May 20, 2025 Quote:
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Now getting a look at the air vent for the new tunnel, just below the site. Not bad for what it is.
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They say the apartments will be mostly rental, which increases the chances of this being built quickly, or with some overlap.
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A little from the approved text...
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It’s my understanding that the city agreed to the means to “finance” the deck and that it will start in 2026. I’m pleased that the west yards will finally proceed.
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City Planning hammers down the final agreement with the City Council on what the development parameters will be for the final phase of the railyards...
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I hope that the deck starts this year.
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What a waste of a second phase
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The green space is what makes it for me. It'll feel like an even bigger transformation than phase 1 IMO.
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Will we get redesigned towers? What will the casino be replaced with? Class A office makes too much sense so the local CB will probably force Related to add 10,000 new housing units at market rate instead (starting at $4.5m for a studio).
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And, in the grand scheme of NYC, it's a drop in the bucket. |
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https://therealdeal.com/new-york/202...-hudson-yards/
Related agrees to increase affordable units at Hudson Yards Developer commits to minimum of 625 units By Kathryn Brenzel Jun 10, 2025 Quote:
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https://www.nyc.gov/office-of-the-ma...using-units-to
Mayor Adams Helps Negotiate Agreement to add Nearly 50 Percent More Affordable Housing Units to Largest Real Estate Development in U.S. History at Hudson Yards West - Phase 2 of Project Will Deliver Total of Up to 4,000 Units for New Yorkers - New Phase of Plan Would Create 35,000 Temporary Jobs, 6.6 Acres of Public Space, New 750-Seat K-8 School, and Daycare Facility - Phase 2 of Project Valued at Over $12 Billion, Will Make Entire Hudson Yards Plan Valued at $32 Billion, Largest Real Estate Development in U.S. History June 10, 2025 Quote:
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https://www.amny.com/new-york/manhat...sing-new-deal/ After casino bid folds, Hudson Yards West adds more affordable housing in new deal https://www.amny.com/wp-content/uplo...esize=1200,926 By Adam Daly June 10, 2025 Quote:
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Don't care if it's a casino or a hospital or whatever, just happy to see this finally move forward so we can see some cool skyscrapers go up.
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The base of SOM’s tower has some elements of 175 Park.
https://i.ibb.co/vvTCKfL1/Hudson-Yar...ompanies-1.jpg https://newyorkyimby.com/wp-content/...55f6d66d6.jpeg SOM |
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https://nypost.com/2025/06/11/us-new...but-no-casino/
Inside the plan for a new Hudson Yards with thousands of apartments, offices — but no casino By Craig McCarthy and Haley Brown June 11, 2025 Quote:
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