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HossC Feb 1, 2016 1:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BifRayRock (Post 7319964)

August 3, 1929. Good time to sell - before the crash.
http://i357.photobucket.com/albums/o...psjbnal5b3.jpg

Here's 323 N Citrus Avenue in 2007. As far as I can tell, the lawn now starts at the front of the house, but it's hard to see as the house and lawn are now virtually hidden by a hedge along the sidewalk.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...s.jpg~original
GSV

ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2016 4:33 PM

Formosa Apartments and Cottages, once more.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...922/R8jAEE.jpg
eBay

:previous: Thanks for the information Hoss. So the Formosa apartment complex was on Hollywood Blvd! How'd we miss this place on NLA? -until now that is.:)

It shows you that you never know what's going to turn up if you search hard enough.
Fun discoveries!
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GaylordWilshire Feb 1, 2016 5:15 PM

:previous:


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-N...252527card.jpgcardcow.com

And a few items from the Times:


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-M...2520PM.bmp.jpg Oct 17, 1913


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Y...2520PM.bmp.jpg Feb 18, 1917


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D...2520PM.bmp.jpg May 26, 1923


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-o...2520PM.bmp.jpg Jan 22, 1945

Earl Boebert Feb 1, 2016 5:28 PM

Great article on what went into the making of linen postcards, like the one of the Formosa:

http://www.collectorsweekly.com/arti...epression-era/

Cheers,

Earl

GaylordWilshire Feb 1, 2016 7:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7320611)


Got curious about the other two apartment houses up for sale in the ad above...didn't really expect them to still be standing, but they are:


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I...2520PM.bmp.jpgGSV

434 S Rampart: Got all excited when the address turned up seemingly in connection to our old friend William Edward Hickman, killer of Marion Parker... but the connection was to an adjacent article describing the death by pneumonia of a police detective who lived there. At least the building still stands.


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-X...2520PM.bmp.jpgGSV

Then there's this beauty, 745 S Normandie...apparently nothing noirish there either, but there is this:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D...2520PM.bmp.jpghttps://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4...2520PM.bmp.jpgLAT Oct 5, 1930

ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2016 8:05 PM

:previous: Good sleuthing GW. I especially like the deco touches of 745 S. Normandie

although the building is listed in the "Bedbug Registry" (link below)
http://www.bedbugregistry.com/locati...ormandie%20Ave

Actually, almost the entire 700 block of Normandie is on the Bedbug Registry :( -with a few exceptions.

HossC Feb 1, 2016 8:20 PM

After a few commercial buildings (and Gilmore Field), today's Julius Shulman post shows an apartment building. It's the Gayley Apartments to be precise. This is "Job 270: William E. Foster, Gayley Apartments (Los Angeles, Calif.),1948".

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...1.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...2.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...3.jpg~original

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...4.jpg~original

All from Getty Research Institute

There's no address with this photoset, but the first two images shows a small sign with "933" on it. I thought that 933 Gayley Avenue might be a good place to start my search, and got lucky first time. Trees now make it very difficult to see the building from the street, so here's a view from above. The plot stretches all the way back to Weyburn Place.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...5.jpg~original
Bing Maps

The online building records show that three new construction permits for this address were approved on June 25, 1947. The first is for the main apartment building, while the other two are for a 4-car and a 3-car garage at the rear. I assume that these are the original garages from the building permits.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...6.jpg~original
GSV

ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2016 9:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jumbo0 (Post 7320331)
I also found the location of 'Hats Off' - 1927. It's filmed on 3811 Bagley Ave, Culver City .

http://s12.postimg.org/b068a797h/Hats_Off19271.jpg http://s12.postimg.org/am0awuzq5/hatsoff.jpg

:previous:Excellent post on the silent film locations jumbo0.

Here's another still from 'Hats Off" (1927)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...923/pc8uHS.jpg
http://www.lordheath.com/index.php?p=1_131_Hats%20Off

"After being last publicly shown in Germany, Hats Off vanished without a trace, and is now considered a lost film."

The film featured the famous washing machine up the stairs routine. (below)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/mFFcKp.jpg
http://www.lordheath.com/index.php?p=1_131_Hats%20Off

:previous: Steps between 923 & 935 Vendome Street, Silverlake.

Hats Off was remade by Laurel and Hardy as The Music Box utilizing the same flight of steps. While a washing machine was delivered in Hats Off, a piano would be delivered
in The Music Box.

Contrary to popular belief, the long staircase is not the same one used by the Three Stooges in their 1941 film An Ache In Every Stake. Those stairs (147 steps) are approximately two miles northeast, located at 2212 Edendale Place.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hats_Off_(1927_film)

p.s. I posted about the stairs many years ago on NLA, but I can't remember if it was the washing machine scene or the piano scene.
(and i certainly didn't realize Hats Off was a lost film :()

ethereal_reality Feb 1, 2016 11:44 PM

Believe it or not, here's yet another photograph of 1314 W. 36th Place.

This one is labeled "Aunt Katie's house, 1908"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/Val9nf.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1908-Family-...0AAOSwL7VWq~Fm





below: Here's the porch photograph that was posted several days ago.
Quote:

Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7316297)
Here's the picture which oldstuff found:

"Vintage photo 1908 Family on Porch 1314 W 36th Place Los Angeles"

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...e.jpg~original
www.etsy.com

oldstuff added: The back of the photograph says "Laura, Chas, Ada and Mrs. Siffiger"



And if you remember, the first 1314 W. 36th Place photograph was this one I posted a week or so ago of two women standing in a vegetable garden.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/KjTI0R.jpg
eBay
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Are these the two women in the garden?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/HyVTNz.jpg
detail

Martin Pal Feb 2, 2016 12:15 AM

When I was downtown on Saturday, besides the great theatres, etc., this building stood out to me:

http://lawrldesign.com/img/s/1000x72...e/Santee_4.jpg
Lawri Design

It's on the corner of 7th and Los Angeles Street and is apparently part of the Santee Court Project, described thusly:

Santee Court: A live-work community in the heart of the Los Angeles Fashion District, nine concrete frame loft buildings ranging in height from 5 to 12 stories constructed in the Los Angeles “Garment District” prior to World War Two. The intent of the project: to convert existing structures from industrial use to residential units. Also involved was the conversion of the existing basements to under ground parking. A dynamic analysis of the structures per City of Los Angeles Division 95 was performed to design the concrete shear walls that were used to strengthen the buildings.

This one is Building 700: Built in 1908, this building is the oldest in the Santee Court Project

A photo before and after the remodel:
http://www.structuralconsulting.com/...mic/700_01.jpgStructural Consulting

http://www.waynethom.com/archive/alb...ntee_Court.jpgWayne Thom

ethereal_reality Feb 2, 2016 1:53 AM

I have no idea why these tourists decided to have their photograph taken in a vacant lot next to a Thrifty.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...921/WX2MaB.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-35m...8AAOSw5dNWqnoe
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ethereal_reality Feb 2, 2016 2:24 AM

Any idea where Paul's Loop Burger was located?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/if3h0f.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCRTD-LOS-AN...sAAOSwL7VWrT9P

"SCRTD Los Angeles (CA) Pauls Loop Burger, Dozier-Rowan Original Slide"
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rbpjr Feb 2, 2016 2:26 AM

Close to home...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 7317024)
I love beating dead horses, at least when it's lying there on Hope St, so here's another shot, this time a screengrab of the 1951 version of M:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/570/2...1157709b_b.jpglarger

My mother was living at 116 S. Hope Street...just up the street in this photo...in 1934.

GaylordWilshire Feb 2, 2016 3:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7321195)
Believe it or not, here's yet another photograph of 1314 W. 36th Place.

This one is labeled "Aunt Katie's house, 1908"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/Val9nf.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1908-Family-...0AAOSwL7VWq~Fm


"Aunt Katie" is presumably Katherine Kuhnen, wife of Charles--more in post 33361

CityBoyDoug Feb 2, 2016 4:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7321398)
Any idea where Paul's Loop Burger was located?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/if3h0f.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCRTD-LOS-AN...sAAOSwL7VWrT9P

"SCRTD Los Angeles (CA) Pauls Loop Burger, Dozier-Rowan Original Slide"
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https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ro...f2b0a4!6m1!1e1

Dozier & Rowan is a street address. There's a bus station there now.

I notice the old cigs machine outside. That would last about one day in 2016 and then gone.......

Beaudry Feb 2, 2016 6:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbpjr (Post 7321402)
My mother was living at 116 S. Hope Street...just up the street in this photo...in 1934.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/570/2...1157709b_z.jpg

Cool! Yes, the large shape to the left and down a bit from the pointy tower (Berke Mansion, up at 2nd and Bunker Hill Avenue) is the Rowan apartment hotel at 122 S Hope. Behind it would be 116.

Here they are, in the mid-50s, 116 at left, Rowan on the right—

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1667/...17d1d47a_o.pnglapl

HossC Feb 2, 2016 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7321398)

Any idea where Paul's Loop Burger was located?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...924/if3h0f.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCRTD-LOS-AN...sAAOSwL7VWrT9P

"SCRTD Los Angeles (CA) Pauls Loop Burger, Dozier-Rowan Original Slide"

Quote:

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug (Post 7321551)

Dozier & Rowan is a street address. There's a bus station there now.

Here's another view of the burger stand at the Dozier and Rowan Loop from nearly two years ago. It looks like signage advertised Pepsi rather than Coke in the picture above. The location of this image was identified by WS1911.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 6555656)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...0/835/pta2.jpg
ebay

There appears to be a sheltered bench and news stand on the left and a greasy spoon featuring hotdogs on the right.


TMSteele Feb 2, 2016 11:50 AM

Noir tunnels?
 
Noir tunnels? hell yes! This video interviews but does not introduce someone I suspect is Richard Schave from L.A. podcast, You Cant Eat the Sunshine http://esotouric.com/
Youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpe0A1NyxXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpe0A1NyxXs
Is Richard a member of NoirLA under a pen-name?

As the story opens up, the tabloid-style reporter chronicles the history of both the 115 year old King Eddy Saloon and other speakeasy's in DLA. Half way though the story Richard mentions Police corruption and Mayor Frank Shaw ultimate resignation, where an underground network of tunnels under DLA was built during the early 1900's and in particular during the Prohibition Period. Richard mentions that this tunnel went from City Hall to the Biltmore Hotel connecting all the hotels together. If this is so, you can imagine the number of illicit events these passage ways saw, booze, hookers, even embarrassing dead bodies as millions of dollars were stashed in the City Hall's vault!

Richard is the only person I have ever heard accuse LA government of being so corrupt that even the Eastern mob, Bugsy and Lucky couldn't make inroads.
...This statement is why the mob started nightclubs within the unincorporated area of West Hollywood along the Sunset Strip instead of at the Ambassador Hotel and other well established hotels within City limits.
...This statement is why the Gay community was ghettoed into LAPD-free WeHo.
...This statement is the germ of what would later become a whole genre of film-making framed around a sense of dreaded foreshadowing, a sense that things were not what they appeared to be. Seeing this video made me rent the great movie, LA Confidential again where the character of the Chief of LA Police was portrayed as a cold-blooded murderer.

Here's my challenge. The King Eddy Saloon is located at 131 E 5th Street (5th & Main Streets) in downtown Los Angeles. Over the years of following noirish LA, I have been amazed at the detective work offered by its members. This is a very unique community. Can anyone offer up more evidence of the mystery tunnels?
...Maybe the basement of the Biltmore has a similar bricked up passage way at 506 S Grand Ave.
...Perhaps City Hall's underground parking garage at 200 N Spring St has an unexplained steel door?
...Were all the old Vaudeville theaters on Broadway linked together? Think of all the cash that could evade the new income-tax declaration. I suspect this is the Mother Lode of Noir.
thx

oldstuff Feb 2, 2016 3:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7321195)
Believe it or not, here's yet another photograph of 1314 W. 36th Place.

This one is labeled "Aunt Katie's house, 1908"

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...921/Val9nf.jpg
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1908-Family-...0AAOSwL7VWq~Fm





below: Here's the porch photograph that was posted several days ago.




And if you remember, the first 1314 W. 36th Place photograph was this one I posted a week or so ago of two women standing in a vegetable garden.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...633/KjTI0R.jpg
eBay
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Are these the two women in the garden?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...923/HyVTNz.jpg
detail

The two women in the garden are the same two women but all of the pictures were taken on different days. In the ones on the porch, the flowers are just slightly different around the porch. The first one I found was taken earlier than the second one with more people since the blooms on the rose to the left has faded.

The women in the garden picture was also taken on a different day since the women are wearing different clothes

ethereal_reality Feb 2, 2016 6:24 PM

:previous: "the blooms to the rose on the left has faded" -amazing deduction oldstuff.

here's the earlier pic. again.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...921/ZJ3Jys.jpg

Thanks for your help.


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