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Beautiful pics of Austin, thanks for sharing!

That pic is epic!

I wonder if we're lucky enough to see the 1,100+ footer at 3rd and Congress rise along with Block 16's 1,072' version. I don't know if that's been approved yet though.

Block 16 is approved. But since it is all speculative office, it looks like a "next cycle" project.

There was never any site plan filed for 3rd & Congress. So that one is not happening any time soon.

I know the original Block 16 was approved but what about the higher version?

True, but rumor has it it's in the works. Don't think we've heard any time frame though.

The second version of Block 16 has been approved. But it lost a lot of height. The original was 725', and the current is only 590'.

It takes 1 1/2 to 2 years for a site plan to be approved for a large project like 3rd & Congress which is why it won't be starting soon.

Wasn't it revised (or proposed) to now be 1,072 feet?

1 - 2 years isn't that bad, if Austin can pull off two more supertalls (three total) this decade that would be really cool.

If I'm not mistaken, the only two actual supertall proposals in Austin were Waterline and Wilson. Waterline in U/C and Wilson neutered himself.

3rd & Congress was the only other potential spot for a supertall. But, nothing official has come of it yet.

The Railyard looked like it might also be a supertall. Again, nothing.

From where did this 1072' Block 16 come? Any links to stories?

Last page of the thread

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=240510

That was unfortunately, an incorrect FAA filing that has since been corrected.

That's disappointing, how on earth did that happen?

You can't win them all I guess, at least there's still 3&C.

I think Wilson and Block 16, even if ~600 feet are cool looking enough to still make an amazing impact.

I guess that is why one needs to hire more detail-oriented individuals.



I would be shocked if "Wilson" get built anywhere close to what is currently being proposed (if at all). Taylor Wilson, I believe, is a bit out-of-his-league in overseeing the development of a high-rise.

Yeah Wilson is out of his league for sure.

That's sad, a 600 footer isn't that much of a longshot...

If the office market recovers I still hope to see block 16 rise, even if just 590'

The Wilson tower was a vanity project for sure. Wilson even named it after himself. :rolleyes:

Office projects are dead for a few years. Austin still has a lot of tall residential projects to look forward too though.

What would 3rd and Congress be? Residential / hotel mostly?

That project only exists as a blurb by the developer which was quoted in the Austin Business Journal. It was described as "90-stories" and "mixed use" which could be anything based on market conditions.

I mean, does a tower really need to have a legitimate use? That's overrated. What's wrong with having a 90-story tower just 'cuz? :shrug:

I assume you jest, such a project would need to be economically viable.

Of course I’m just messing around. I would love for everything to be economically sound first and foremost. Skylines with empty towers are a bit depressing after all. But it would look nice from the outside!

Who's (potentially) behind that one?

Want to convince myself it's not just a pipe dream.

IIRC, it was DHA Captial and Wildcat Venture partners.

It looks like the Wilson tower is happening. A flurry of permits were filed today including ones for demo and the tower crane. FAA permits list the new height at 519'. So it went from 1,072' to 519'. :(

Pathetic. If built, it will only rise 4' taller than Frost.

Place your bets...This thing gets value-engineered (designed) quite substantially (obviously other than overall height).

Not sure what to think, DHA doesn't seem to have much of a portfolio per their website but Wildcat's is a bit nicer.

I guess Austin may not have any real upcoming supertalls to top 98RR. Kinda sad if so but finger crossed.


I think it was 1,035', Block 16's erroneous permits were 1,072'.

If the design stays the same I'm more than happy as we assumed it was no longer happening at all.

But yea, hopefully no VE-ing.

I'd be more happy with the design as a 500 footer. It just looked odd being that tall. I probably still call it the tongue depressor.

I think it lost a ton of aesthetic appeal when it decreased in size. For one, now, the parking podium looks huge in comparison to the tower itself. When the tower was taller, one almost forgot how big the podium was (is).

In theory you can use the same design as the supertall. Cut it in half. Pop on the design top and call it Phase 1. Then when the market proves itself, pop off the top, continue the rest of the height and pop the top back on. Phase 2 and tower complete.

Interesting had that ever been done in recent on a very tall building?

That would be a really nice surprise lol.

Buildings definitely get height increases / design changes during construction but I'm not sure if it's ever happened to such an extent.

I think this design would look good 8-900 feet. 500 is too short but better than nothing.

Anyone know anything about these guys? I just checked out their websites but nothing beyond that.

I’m still pissed about Fairmont’s decision to defang the original design to something lame.

One day I will move on.

Perhaps in 2045.

I really loved Fairmont's original design. It would have been Austin's second roundish building and have a cool helipad on the roof. Not to mention that would have been taller.

Yeah the original fairmont was a slick design!

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Great shot! Had to be a drone HDR shot, which is not easy to pull off!

I'm always amazed at how much our city has grown up.

And still growing!

That panorama is killer and will only get better!

Its going to be harder to get shots like that. Now the skyline is still pretty much pulling to the center and west. But with the taller towers going up on Rainey and the stateman site. This will shift the pull so much further east.

Amazing that you can see the Tesla Gigafactory off in the distance.

If you are referring to the lights to the immediate left of 44East - I do not believe those are from the Tesla factory. In fact, I believe a small hill impedes the view of downtown from the factory.

I could be wrong, however. It's been many, many months since I drove past it on 130.

The line of sight jives with Tesla and if drone is ~200’ up then it would be above said small hills. :)

The skyline is stretching and is more linear but would you also day it's becoming wider/thicker?

Definitely getting wider depending on what angle you view it from.

That Pano is epic, can 't wait to see this view in a few years.

Anyone? Bueller...?

The view will be epic in just a year. Austin continues to grow up as other cities pause.

Just got back from 4 days in Austin while the hubby was in a conference and I spent time with a dear friend of 30 years. The changes between when we were there in 2017 & now are incredible. The skyline has literally doubled in size. We stayed at the JW Marriott and then moved to the Fairmont (highly recommend) for the last 2 nights. The unhoused situation is pretty bad, and on the surface worse than here in NYC, but that might be the weather and Austin’s reputation. Sixth Street is a shell of what I remember and pretty depressing but Rainey Street has a fun, kinetic energy. Overall we loved our visit but my husband did comment that “it’s not a pretty city” but I think he was commenting on the quality of much of the newer architecture and not the environs. We did a day trip to Fredericksburg for wine tasting and a last night dinner at The Oasis, which is probably y’all’s version’s of going to the Statue of Liberty (mostly tourists) but the views at sunset over Lake Travis are really unique to Austin.

Completely fair assessment, pretty much the only historic architecture is on 6th street, congress avenue, and UT, other than that there's nothing very impressive to look at like in some more established cities that experienced prewar booms. I think the "pretty" aspect of this city is more to do with our waterways and parks a lot of which are directly downtown.