Seems like they would allow taller buildings since the approach to Hobby is about 2 miles to the west of downtown. At that point, planes are way above 1000'. Seems like San Diego is much more risky regarding the flight paths and building heights. I'm just thinking out loud here, since I don't know FAA regulations.

Austin, though, shouldn't have any restrictions since the airport is so far from downtown and the runways run north/south.

This could be the decade of supertalls for Austin. :skyhighmind:

Austin has never been sleepy, even when it was a small town in the 70s.

To reiterate...I is my long-held understanding that the FAA doesn't directly restrict the height of buildings, but issues a "determination of hazard" when buildings are too tall near airports. At that point, local zoning boards are reluctant to approve construction and/or buildings taller than the what the FAA deems a hazard can become cost-prohibitive due to higher cost of insurance and smaller GSF of rentable/sellable space.

Didn't the FAA an issue with the original height of 6XGuad - but, later pulled back?

Hanover Brazos Street

https://i.imgur.com/3rIIXyuh.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/bO1EQREh.jpeg

Vesper

https://i.imgur.com/7nxdoWhh.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/VKevVEvh.jpeg

Exactly. I was here in the 70s and it was anything but "sleepy" even then. It was a huge party town and it was pretty crazy even though the population was probably 300K or less.

You're not possibly saying it will be taller than the approved 1400' Tribune tower in Chicago, are you?

I say the same. Personally, back in the late 90s to early 00s, Austin felt more alive. There was an energy then that I just can't capture today. And I am in downtown every night on weekends because of my job. I'm not the only one who shares that opinion. I've had lots of friends say the same. But I get that it's totally anecdotal and probably based entirely on subjective experiences.

What I do find funny is when people come from other parts of the country who know very little of Austin and say that it used to not be cool, but it's cool now.

You mean to say it'll be taller than 1,400 ft?

Right. Plus Chicago, Seattle, Miami, Dallas, SF and a few other cities have concrete proposals taller than 859'.

It'll be interesting to see what 3rd and Congress yields.


Philly basically counts because it's so close.

"Solid?" I don't know. However, what 859'+ proposal for Dallas is "solid?" Did I miss something?

Anyway...getting this tangent steered back toward the subject of Austin developments - when does the 410 E. Fifth (Avenue Lofts) project go before the design commission. I thought it might have been yesterday.

I think you can count it but I definitely wont. For me I have a hard cutoff on things, so if the threshold is 300 meters then it needs to be a minimum of 300 meters somehow with either roof height, a crown, a lantern, a spire, or even an antenna.

If it doesn’t get there somehow someway then I’m not counting it.

If I’m invited to a get together at say 8:30 PM then I’m the type of person that gets there exactly at 8:30 PM.
You did. It’s 890 feet and called the Field Street development.
https://i.imgur.com/k6Xypnr.jpg

You’re a bit behind. That tower/development has been halved.

^^^That's the word I heard too. It was on shaky ground with which to begin.

^^ I heard that as well. Which is a bummer! It would have been an amazing addition to that area for Uptown.

When did it get halved? And wtf? Why is it so painfully hard for Dallas to get anything tall going? I feel like this always happens to them with every single tall building that’s proposed that it never gets past the proposal stage.

Dallas and Atlanta are so unfortunate when it comes to getting anything 700+ feet built now for the last decade plus.

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Nokonah looking good… feels like that was the one that started all this.

When did this happen? Keep in mind there are several developments in that area and there may be confusion.

Ah I haven’t seen any updates on that one so it slipped my mind. Tallest proposal in the U.S outside of NYC and Chicago. * :)

That’s a very good hint.

There’s the Transit Terminal Tower proposal in Philly at 1,200 feet and 333 South Figuora in LA at 1,108 feet. Waldorf Astoria in Miami at 1,049 feet.

Ehh it's fine. I don't think we even know when that'll start, if it will.

I believe the Transit Terminal Tower, while possible, is at this point just a concept. Who knows maybe it'll happen.
333 South Figuora is dead. The developer (?) got caught up in a corruption scandal, FBI, all that jazz. (Though it speaks more to LAs process that the developer even felt the need to bribe, but that's another story).
However the site is still good, so it's possible someone else could build one that tall there.

As for Waldorf, that's only 1,049 ft. It's quite possible this proposal could eclipse it.

The Goldman Sachs office towers will most likely not be that tall, but the mentioned 890' tower is not an office tower and I don't think there's been any mention of it's proposed height being reduced at this point. However, this is Dallas and I won't be surprised if it doesn't happen.

The Republic

https://i.imgur.com/iq8xU5Wh.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/jRPuwZ7h.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/gTSdJ67h.jpeg

415 Colorado

https://i.imgur.com/z4xOYGdh.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/mtXbF09h.jpeg

Skyscraper likely to replace Fogo de Chão

https://static.wixstatic.com/media/2...34d86e~mv2.jpg

Actually the Dallas development will be in two phases, first phase will be three buildings not very tall on 4.5 acres. Construction to start in the first quarter of next year. The second phase will be the taller buildings that may include the proposed 890’ mix use tower on the remaining 6.5 acres.

And 4/C in Seattle and Hines’s tower in SF


Anyway great news about a new potential skyscraper, even at the expense of Fogo de Chao.

All great updates! Austin keeeeep going! Up up up

Does 4/C have a dedicated thread? I can’t find it.

Fogo De Chao will remain, just moving a few blocks over to 2nd & Congress.

https://i.imgur.com/GEdNs4Th.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/JnX9YP8h.jpeg

River Street Residences & Cambria Hotel

https://i.imgur.com/7Pms8Nlh.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/7Pms8Nlh.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/czGGlCeh.jpg

80 Rainey

https://i.imgur.com/p1h0tz6h.jpeg

Vesper

https://i.imgur.com/SMxSDjVh.jpeg

Austin set to become #2 in buildings over 500ft, surpassing Dallas.

There are at least 10 others above 500’ in the approved/proposed stage.

Over 500' in Austin (as of today):

9 = T/O or Complete
10 = Site Prep or U/C
11 = Proposed, Site Plan Under Review, or Approved


Plus, there are these projects which should be over 500' (not included in the numbers above):
-3rd & Congress
-ATX Tower East
-ATX Tower West
-99 Red River
-309 E. 3rd

If all built - that's 35.

Based on the numbers I get, if all get built, Austin would be rivaling Houston with towers at 400'+.

Skyscrapers over 500+ feet

Miami: 66 (60 built | +6 u/c)
Houston: 37 (35 built | +2 u/c)
Los Angeles: 31 (27 built | +4 u/c)
San Francisco 25 (25 built | 0 u/c)
Boston: 23 (20 built | +3 u/c)
Seattle: 21 (20 built | 0 u/c)
Dallas: 20 (20 built | 0 u/c)
Atlanta: 19 (19 built | 0 u/c)
Austin: 18 (9 built | +9 u/c)
Las Vegas: 15 (15 built | 0 u/c)
Philly: 15 (13 built | +2 u/c)
Pittsburgh: 11 (11 built | 0 u/c)
Minneapolis: 10 (9 built | +1 u/c)
Detroit: 9 (8 built | +1 u/c)
Charlotte: 8 (7 built | +1 u/c)
Denver: 8 (8 built | 0 u/c)
Baltimore: 4 (4 built | 0 u/c)
Portland: 3 (3 built | 0 u/c)
St. Louis: 3 (3 built | 0 u/c)
San Diego: 1 (1 built | 0 u/c)

I used the SSP database

By the end of this decade in 2029 Austin will either be between Houston and LA or between Miami and Houston on this list. And all of Austin’s 500 footers will be in downtown or directly adjacent neighborhoods.

SSP's Database is obviously off a bit...

What’s off about it?

Missing cities on your list.

That would be an amazing day when Austin is listed in contention with New York City and Chicago. I love Austin don't get me wrong, but that's like looping in Jason Kidd with Michael Jordan and Lebron James for "greatest basketball player of all time".

Austin's great, but not quite to the level of those other two cities (yet?).

No it’s not. I got every city ahead of Austin except NYC and Chicago because they have over 100 each and take too long to count, sort, and double check. I’m not doing that, I don’t have time for that.

The list successfully accomplished the goal of getting Austin and the cities directly ahead of it. That was the point of the list. I did add some cities behind Austin to the list but I didn’t wanna break my back compiling a full list of cities for it, so if anywhere is left off it is definitely behind Austin.

True. Trying to count NYC and Chicago's towers over 500ft off of a screen may cause anyone to get a seizure.

For real. They just have way too many to sort through in a reasonable amount of time. More so NYC than Chicago but still.

This Downtown Demolition Application Could Tell a Tower-Shaped Story

https://s3-media0.fl.yelpcdn.com/bph...gomf5S5g/l.jpg

I did a quick search of the diagrams page for Chicago and NYC over 500, built and UC. It tells you the number on top.

NYC: 311 (+Jersey City 17) = 328
Chicago: 127

And including Canada:
Toronto: 112
Calgary: 19
Montreal: 15
Vancouver: 9

Great momentum. The nice thing is that what's going on in Austin is dynamic so more proposals are bound to occur as this boom continues. To see the potential to quickly eclipse Dallas and even Houston (in theory) shows the magnitude of what is going on. 10 years ago, I don't think we would of predicted that, at least on this level. But hey, knock-on-wood, may the boom continue and accelerate! :cheers:

The fact also with super talls, with one rising and others looking like they may happen, shows a strength in the market, which will no doubt trickle and continue to trickle to your 100-200m categories.

11th and Trinity: Residential, Office & Retail

https://weaverbuildings.com/property/pending/

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https://weaverbuildings.com/wp-conte...S-1-scaled.jpg

I like it.

Over 500+ feet

Miami: 66 (60 built | +6 u/c)
Houston: 38 (35 built | +3 u/c)
Los Angeles: 31 (27 built | +4 u/c)
San Francisco 25 (25 built | 0 u/c)
Boston: 23 (20 built | +3 u/c)
Seattle: 21 (20 built | 0 u/c)
Dallas: 20 (20 built | 0 u/c)
Atlanta: 19 (19 built | 0 u/c)
Austin: 18 (9 built | +9 u/c)
Las Vegas: 15 (15 built | 0 u/c)
Philly: 15 (13 built | +2 u/c)
Pittsburgh: 11 (11 built | 0 u/c)
Minneapolis: 10 (9 built | +1 u/c)
Detroit: 9 (8 built | +1 u/c)
Charlotte: 8 (7 built | +1 u/c)
Denver: 8 (8 built | 0 u/c)
Baltimore: 4 (4 built | 0 u/c)
Portland: 3 (3 built | 0 u/c)
St. Louis: 3 (3 built | 0 u/c)
San Diego: 1 (1 built | 0 u/c)


Over 400+ feet

Miami: 99 (92 built | +7 u/c)
Houston: 71 (64 built | +7 u/c)
San Francisco: 57 (57 built | 0 u/c)
Los Angeles: 54 (49 built | +5 u/c)
Seattle: 53 (48 built | +5 u/c)
Atlanta: 43 (43 built | 0 u/c)
Las Vegas: 41 (41 built | 0 u/c)
Boston: 39 (35 built | +4 u/c)
Dallas: 34 (34 built | 0 u/c)
Philly: 32 (30 built | +2 u/c)
Austin: 31 (21 built | +10 u/c)
Honolulu: 28 (27 built | +1 u/c)
Minneapolis: 21 (20 built | +1 u/c)
San Diego: 20 (20 built | 0 u/c)
Denver: 18 (18 built | 0 u/c)
Detroit: 15 (14 built | +1 u/c)
Portland: 6 (5 built | +1 u/c)

Over 300+ feet

Houston: 148 (141 built | +7 u/c)
Miami: 144 (136 built | +8 u/c)
San Francisco: 123 (123 built | 0 u/c)
Honolulu: 104 (103 built | +1 u/c)
Los Angeles: 103 (97 built | + 6 u/c)
Atlanta: 96 (96 built | 0 u/c)
Seattle: 85 (76 built | +9 u/c)
Boston: 80 (76 built | +4 u/c)
Philly: 80 (77 built | +3 u/c)
Dallas: 76 (76 built | 0 u/c)
Austin: 62 (48 built | +14 u/c)
Las Vegas: 57 (57 built | 0 u/c)
Detroit: 38 (37 built | +1 u/c)
Minneapolis: 38 (37 built | +1 u/c)

The under construction numbers are probably a little off for some of these cities. So keep that in mind because the SSP database is not up to date for u/c buildings for every city.

I noticed that the first 4 of the 5 under construction for Houston have finished construction and the 511 foot Methodist centennial tower under construction hasn’t been added on SSP’s u/c database nor have any of the other recent buildings that just began construction. I’d imagine it’s like this for a number of the other cities too. I also seriously doubt SF has 0 300+ footers under construction.

But granted that the buildings already built list is accurate.