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R1070 Jul 9, 2022 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dariusb (Post 9671929)
Cool development. It seems like Austin has a lot more dense development proposals compared to other Texas cities. I'm wondering will that eventually spread to other areas outside of downtown?

DFW has this type of development all over the Metroplex and that's been the case for several years now. This is actually lower density than many sites around DFW.

N90 Jul 9, 2022 11:38 PM

Yeah Dallas and Houston both get way more of this type of development than any other TX cities. Austin's impressive too but it's playing catchup to DFW and HOU in this department. They've been at it for decades now. Houston's westside is really infilling and building up tremendously with this sort of development.

Dariusb Jul 10, 2022 1:12 AM

Ok cool. Thanks for the clarification guys.

clubtokyo Jul 10, 2022 3:00 AM

That may be true but Dallas and Houston sprawl out way more than Austin. Austin has a unique opportunity as being the baby to build out correctly and learn from the mistakes of it’s bigger brothers.

N90 Jul 10, 2022 4:21 PM

For sure, I get that but we’re not talking about sprawl IMO. As it is, DFW and HOU have denser sprawl patterns than the ATX as it is even though DFW and HOU sprawl more. There isn’t any need to be bringing sprawl up though since we’re more focused on the infill and dense urban developments within the city’s central core area in this thread. We’re specifically talking about central core city developments.

For example, in Houston you have East River, which is arguably the single largest infill development in all of TX right now. It’ll practically create an entirely new dense and urban neighborhood in the core of the city by scratch. You have Hines’ medical village, which is nearly as large as East River. You have TMC3. Autry Park. Regent Square. BLVD Place. The massive developments on Westheimer in Uptown near 610. The Ion District. Museo Plaza. And there are dozens of others taking shape right now. Etc. This has been going on for decades and has only accelerated even more in the past 12 or so years.

These are all big time dense infill developments. I know that Dallas has had plenty of these as well.

We’re just now beginning to see more of this in Austin, which is great because it’ll expand the core with density and urban continuity and will increase the total area of the urban core. All 3 cities have a lot of neat things going on right now.

N90 Jul 10, 2022 4:25 PM

Hit pause at 2:16 to get the full scope of the East River Megadevelopment in Houston. And this is just one of several massive infill projects taking shape in Houston right now.

https://youtu.be/0gzBCPIJyWE

clubtokyo Jul 10, 2022 5:51 PM

Thanks for the info N90, I’ll check out that video.

Double L Jul 10, 2022 5:56 PM

These projects are turning Austin into an amazing city.:cheers::notacrook::cool:

N90 Jul 10, 2022 5:56 PM

For real.

There isn’t another metro of 2.4 million in the US with a Supertall (currently U/C). And there may be another on the way after that. Possibly 2 others if that railyard condos ground moves forward with their plans. Austin’s skyline now far exceeds that of a metro of 2.4 million people, at least by US standards imo.

Now what I wanna see is the rail system and subway start construction, the airport go from small hub to major big time hub, and the city start to expand its urban core with more dense infill developments that stretch the core further out.

Double L Jul 10, 2022 6:11 PM

As Austin continues to have this large amount of growth and tries to plan it well, I hope Austin will also work to consider the cost of living, keep cost of living down and do what it can to address homelessness and build the homeless shelters that will be needed, while also addressing drug addiction and crime.

BG918 Jul 10, 2022 8:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Double L (Post 9672388)
As Austin continues to have this large amount of growth and tries to plan it well, I hope Austin will also work to consider the cost of living, keep cost of living down and do what it can to address homelessness and build the homeless shelters that will be needed, while also addressing drug addiction and crime.

That is what could ultimately suppress the fantastic growth that Austin has experienced. I do hope they can get a handle on it. As an aside, it looks like San Antonio is starting to see some major spillover growth which is awesome because it’s a really unique city. The Austin/SA corridor could easily rival DFW and Houston someday.

Dariusb Jul 10, 2022 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by clubtokyo (Post 9672156)
That may be true but Dallas and Houston sprawl out way more than Austin. Austin has a unique opportunity as being the baby to build out correctly and learn from the mistakes of it’s bigger brothers.

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Originally Posted by N90 (Post 9672379)
For real.

There isn’t another metro of 2.4 million in the US with a Supertall (currently U/C). And there may be another on the way after that. Possibly 2 others if that railyard condos ground moves forward with their plans. Austin’s skyline now far exceeds that of a metro of 2.4 million people, at least by US standards imo.

Now what I wanna see is the rail system and subway start construction, the airport go from small hub to major big time hub, and the city start to expand its urban core with more dense infill developments that stretch the core further out.

On another site someone said Austin could have a skyline that surpasses Denver and Philadelphia in amount of buildings over 300' by 2030. Do you see that as a possibility?

Dariusb Jul 10, 2022 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by N90 (Post 9672338)
Hit pause at 2:16 to get the full scope of the East River Megadevelopment in Houston. And this is just one of several massive infill projects taking shape in Houston right now.

https://youtu.be/0gzBCPIJyWE

Wow, cool stuff!

wwmiv Jul 10, 2022 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dariusb (Post 9672506)
On another site someone said Austin could have a skyline that surpasses Denver and Philadelphia in amount of buildings over 300' by 2030. Do you see that as a possibility?

I see this as near-guaranteed.

Double L Jul 11, 2022 3:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N90 (Post 9672338)
Hit pause at 2:16 to get the full scope of the East River Megadevelopment in Houston. And this is just one of several massive infill projects taking shape in Houston right now.

https://youtu.be/0gzBCPIJyWE

That East River project will be great for Houston. That area really needs the development!

The ATX Jul 13, 2022 11:27 PM

We got another 600+ footer today, and this will make for at least a dozen 600 footers proposed or U/C. This one is another residential tower with 54-stories and is replacing a condo building with around 33 units at 410 E. 5th St.

AviationGuy Jul 14, 2022 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by The ATX (Post 9675482)
We got another 600+ footer today, and this will make for at least a dozen 600 footers proposed or U/C. This one is another residential tower with 54-stories and is replacing a condo building with around 33 units at 410 E. 5th St.

Replacing the Avenue Lofts. Always liked the architecture of these lofts.

The ATX Jul 24, 2022 3:29 AM

The Austin project list has been updated. There are at least 58 projects over 300'. Of those, 22 are at least 500', 12 are over 600' and 5 are over 700'.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...05&postcount=6

Dariusb Jul 24, 2022 5:47 AM

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Originally Posted by The ATX (Post 9684316)
The Austin project list has been updated. There are at least 58 projects over 300'. Of those, 22 are at least 500', 12 are over 600' and 5 are over 700'.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...05&postcount=6

Thanks, great updates!

clubtokyo Jul 24, 2022 10:33 PM

Wow. Great list of projects.

bossabreezes Jul 25, 2022 2:09 AM

How will Austin's upcoming huge decrease in property values/housing crash impact all of these projects?

Syndic Jul 25, 2022 2:59 PM

Most projects are already underway. It won't have any impact on those.

GoldenBoot Jul 25, 2022 6:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bossabreezes (Post 9684847)
How will Austin's upcoming huge decrease in property values/housing crash impact all of these projects?

So...it's definite? Source?

Austin's real estate is pretty secure from the majority of what some states are beginning to see. You may see bursting bubbles in other areas of the country. However, Austin will be spared (again) from the worst of it. Austin's CRE is in a much better place than the bulk of the country.

There will be neither a "huge decrease" in property values nor a "housing crash" in the Austin area. Most don't see it even from the rest of Texas. A "correction," yes. Maybe. A crash - no (unless Russia nukes us).

clubtokyo Jul 26, 2022 4:03 AM

Thanks GoldenBoot… I was waiting to see what his source is on this total collapse of Austin…

ILUVSAT Jul 26, 2022 4:50 PM

Yeah. What does an individual who claims to be located in L.A. know about Austin - or Texas in general?

I get annoyed by those who assume that if it's bad in California or New York that it is going to be bad everywhere.

The last time the country saw a CRE/RRE "bubble" burst was about 14-15 years ago. Austin (and Texas) faired pretty well through that one. In fact, one of the major reasons RE growth "slowed" in Austin (and Texas) during that time was the Feds stepping in and throwing a huge blanket over everyone. It was frustrating for many banks and other investment institutions in Texas - who saw the continued demand but were not able to help the supply.

Southern sunbelt states will fair pretty well through this...as migration is still steaming along (both private and corporate).

Dale Jul 26, 2022 4:59 PM

I’ve seen three instances, in my adult life, when projects died on the vine ...

Oil bust of ‘81, Persian Gulf War ‘90 and 2007-8.

clubtokyo Jul 28, 2022 3:30 AM

We’ll it’s not happening in Austin , so let’s move on!

Urbannizer Jul 29, 2022 5:34 AM

Nearly 700 Homes Planned Across Two Towers Near Austin’s Convention Center

https://austin.towers.net/nearly-700...ention-center/

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Recent permit activity for the Block 32 tower project, planned by an unknown developer for a half-block site at East Third and San Jacinto Streets a stone’s throw from the Austin Convention Center, indicates the development will contain two towers built next door to each other across two phases of construction.

According to the latest site plan filing describing the proposed project’s design, the first tower will contain 340 residential units alongside parking and retail space for a total of 373,000 square feet, with the second-phase tower adding another 340 residences and a 276-key hotel alongside more parking and retail, for a total of 509,000 square feet, not to mention that impressive number of 680 total new homes between both buildings — the respective heights of each tower is unknown, but considering these square footages each will likely rise more than at least 30 floors.
https://austin.towers.net/wp-content...2-1536x927.jpg

The ATX Aug 5, 2022 9:21 PM

We got floor counts for two new towers today that are part of the same project. One will be 42-stories and the other one 55-stories. The 55-story tower will give Austin at least 13 600+ footers U/C and waiting for approval.

KevinFromTexas Aug 6, 2022 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by The ATX (Post 9695161)
We got floor counts for two new towers today that are part of the same project. One will be 42-stories and the other one 55-stories. The 55-story tower will give Austin at least 13 600+ footers U/C and waiting for approval.

For comparison sake, Dallas has 11 completed 600+ foot buildings and Houston has 20. Two of those in Houston, however, are not in downtown, they're in Uptown.

Dariusb Aug 6, 2022 1:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The ATX (Post 9695161)
We got floor counts for two new towers today that are part of the same project. One will be 42-stories and the other one 55-stories. The 55-story tower will give Austin at least 13 600+ footers U/C and waiting for approval.

Wow!

AviationGuy Aug 7, 2022 2:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 9695274)
For comparison sake, Dallas has 11 completed 600+ foot buildings and Houston has 20. Two of those in Houston, however, are not in downtown, they're in Uptown.

Other than Wiliams Tower, which builiding in Uptown is 600+?

Riverranchdrone Aug 7, 2022 2:32 AM

[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...a92da15a_k.jpgDJI_0762-HDR-Pano by Jason Luebbe, on Flickr[/IMG]
[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...558ff29f_k.jpgDJI_0696-HDR by Jason Luebbe, on Flickr[/IMG]

KevinFromTexas Aug 7, 2022 5:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 9695841)
Other than Wiliams Tower, which builiding in Uptown is 600+?

San Felipe Plaza. It's a 625 foot, 45-story office tower.

https://www.google.com/search?q=san+...&bih=709&dpr=1

AviationGuy Aug 8, 2022 2:12 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 9695911)
San Felipe Plaza. It's a 625 foot, 45-story office tower.

https://www.google.com/search?q=san+...&bih=709&dpr=1

Oh yeah....it's sort of away from the denser part. I actually attended a conference in that building years ago.

Dariusb Aug 9, 2022 5:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Riverranchdrone (Post 9695846)

Gorgeous pictures!!

Urbannizer Aug 14, 2022 9:59 PM

6xGuad

https://i.imgur.com/WEPyHI3h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wZq2DGmh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/uNryzV3h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/dtVauo0h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/w5tDYcRh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LxamypIh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/4JLYMAKh.jpg

Urbannizer Aug 16, 2022 11:29 PM

https://austin.towers.net/heres-our-...and-red-river/

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The 37-floor downtown Austin apartment tower planned for the corner of East Fifth and Red River Streets by local real estate developer Stonelake Capital Partners heads to the City of Austin’s Design Commission for a review of its density bonus application on Monday next week — but since we try our best to stay on the ball around here for the sake of our beloved readers, we’ve got an early look at the tower for you, which at the moment is going by the working name 5th + Red River.

The old Carmelo’s building — originally built as a boarding house in 1872 and known on its historical marker as the Old Depot Hotel — will be restored with the help of local preservation firm O’Connell Architecture for use as a retail space adjacent to the new tower, with the new construction mostly rising from the area now occupied by the site’s parking lot. It’s nearly an ideal scenario for infill development, preserving a historic downtown structure while bringing 242 new residences to market.
https://austin.towers.net/wp-content...-1527x2048.jpg

https://austin.towers.net/wp-content...9-1536x902.jpg

https://austin.towers.net/wp-content...0-1536x901.jpg

https://austin.towers.net/wp-content...1-1536x900.jpg

colemonkee Aug 16, 2022 11:47 PM

Love those columns at the base.

Dariusb Aug 17, 2022 5:08 AM

Nice renderings!

Urbannizer Aug 19, 2022 2:01 AM

Herzog & de Meuron Reveals Design for Mass-Timber Mixed-Use Development in Austin

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Herzog & de Meuron has pulled back the curtain on Sixth & Blanco, a mixed-use infill development encompassing an entire city block in Austin’s historic Clarksville neighborhood, just west of the Texas capital city’s downtown core.

The low-slung mass-timber project features an “urban carpet” of restaurants and retail at street level topped by offices, a hotel, and apartments on the third and fourth floors, which “steps back from the street and decreases in density as it grows taller, allowing for a network of exterior circulation spaces with gardens, courtyards and porches on all levels,” the firm detailed. As recently released renderings show, the wood-clad structure (technically a cluster of breezeway-separated buildings oriented around a central plaza and multiple internal courtyards) doesn’t so much insert itself into streetscape but but politely slinks behind it, rising behind and above existing homes and storefronts fronting West 6th Street in deference to the historic fabric of Clarksville.
https://www.archpaper.com/wp-content...t-1200x600.jpg

https://www.archpaper.com/wp-content...d-1350x900.jpg

https://www.archpaper.com/wp-content...t-1432x900.jpg

kingkirbythe.... Aug 19, 2022 2:48 AM

Wowza!

drummer Aug 19, 2022 2:18 PM

I like it.

colemonkee Aug 19, 2022 3:11 PM

Proof that not everything needs to be a high rise to be architecturally interesting and contribute to the urban environment. More of this everywhere, please.

shakman Aug 19, 2022 4:03 PM

Keep bonfires at a distance.

clubtokyo Aug 20, 2022 3:59 AM

I think this one will look better than the renders imo!

Urbannizer Aug 20, 2022 10:14 AM

East Austin

1300 East 5th

https://i.imgur.com/cGAlFhGh.jpg

Centro

https://i.imgur.com/oOvxHEAh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ADw4t6oh.jpg

Juno Austin

https://i.imgur.com/jp5U913h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/GZgRPTHh.jpg

Chalmers Court East

https://i.imgur.com/G0EpIzjh.jpg

T3 Eastside

https://i.imgur.com/hXDC7onh.jpg

Urbannizer Aug 24, 2022 10:06 PM

Word floating around in the Austin sub-forum that a supertall taller than 98 Red River is proposed. This comes from two different users. It is said to be presented to the design commission in late September with a 3Q 2023 start date, 4 year construction timeline.

No word on location. My guess would be 3rd and Congress, what’s being planned there is rumored to be a super tall.

Edit: Going through the discussion again it may be 410 East 5th- currently proposed at 54 floors but is said to be “drastically updated.”

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=251085

Dariusb Aug 25, 2022 4:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbannizer (Post 9711134)
Word floating around in the Austin sub-forum that a supertall taller than 98 Red River is proposed. This comes from two different users. It is said to be presented to the design commission in late September with a 3Q 2023 start date, 4 year construction timeline.

No word on location. My guess would be 3rd and Congress, what’s being planned there is rumored to be a super tall.

Edit: Going through the discussion again it may be 410 East 5th- currently proposed at 54 floors but is said to be “drastically updated.”

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=251085

Wow, interesting! Can't wait to hear more!

The ATX Aug 27, 2022 7:36 PM

Austin's Tallest Projects Lists have been updated. We have 13 projects over 600' with six of them U/C. There are more 600 plus footers planned but not listed because an exact height or floor count is not available.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...05&postcount=6


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