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AviationGuy Apr 23, 2022 3:19 AM

Can anyone tell me a good site where I can find all Austin construction activity? There's a lot going on along Burnet Rd south of Anderson, and I'm particularly interested in what is being built on the site where Wells Fargo Bank was located just south of the intersection of Braker and Research. I'm betting it's going to be a multilevel apartment or condo building. The construction site is huge. Also interested in knowing some details on what is being built near Anderson and Rockwood (another huge site).

The ATX Apr 23, 2022 3:31 AM

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Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 9606107)
Can anyone tell me a good site where I can find all Austin construction activity? There's a lot going on along Burnet Rd south of Anderson, and I'm particularly interested in what is being built on the site where Wells Fargo Bank was located just south of the intersection of Braker and Research. I'm betting it's going to be a multilevel apartment or condo building. The construction site is huge. Also interested in knowing some details on what is being built near Anderson and Rockwood (another huge site).

The Austin section of this forum is the best place by far. And how do you not know that? :)

Syndic Apr 23, 2022 2:44 PM

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Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 9606107)
Can anyone tell me a good site where I can find all Austin construction activity? There's a lot going on along Burnet Rd south of Anderson, and I'm particularly interested in what is being built on the site where Wells Fargo Bank was located just south of the intersection of Braker and Research. I'm betting it's going to be a multilevel apartment or condo building. The construction site is huge. Also interested in knowing some details on what is being built near Anderson and Rockwood (another huge site).

Here you go.

Dariusb Apr 23, 2022 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The ATX (Post 9605853)
I updated the Austin Tallest Projects List:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...05&postcount=6

There are at least 53 tower projects over 300'. Of those, 30 are over 400', 20 are over 500' and 11 are over 600'. Hopefully the supertall at #1 will get a green highlight on the next update. There are also 10-12 other projects that will make the list once we get public info on the height.

Cool!

AviationGuy Apr 24, 2022 3:03 AM

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Originally Posted by The ATX (Post 9606117)
The Austin section of this forum is the best place by far. And how do you not know that? :)

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This section almost never discusses anything other than talls, and mostly downtown. I'm not asking about talls.

Edit: Syndic provided a link to a part of the forum I have not seen before.

AviationGuy Apr 24, 2022 3:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Syndic (Post 9606298)

Thank you. I've never come across that part of the forum. Thanks for being helpful.

TexasPlaya Apr 24, 2022 4:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 9606728)
Thank you. I've never come across that part of the forum. Thanks for being helpful.

There is no HAIF or Dallasmetropolis equivalent that I am aware of but the Austin subsection does a pretty good.

The ATX Apr 24, 2022 7:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 9606727)
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This section almost never discusses anything other than talls, and mostly downtown. I'm not asking about talls.

Edit: Syndic provided a link to a part of the forum I have not seen before.

I was referring to the Austin subforum that Syndic linked to. Threads like Domain/North Austin, East Austin and Austin Update are frequently updated with smaller projects. But there is so much going on that a lot of stuff doesn't receive much attention.

Syndic Apr 25, 2022 4:22 AM

Yeah I wish I could go out and take more pics of projects like I used to. But I do what I can. If we all do the same, we can stay somewhat on top of things.

rayfes Apr 25, 2022 8:27 PM

https://www.austinmonitor.com/storie...c-designation/

There's too much equating of the actual physical space to the business and its clientele. Iron Bear is great but has only been in that location 3 years. The building doesn't seem historic. I remember when it was District Bar and Grill and Oslo of all things.

"monolithic towers that are as culturally antithetical to the spirit of Austin as they are tall"

“To eventually destroy all of (the warehouses) for giant high-rises, full of people living like the Borg, with no place to go that is human-scale and human-interest is not where we want to take downtown.”

but there was counterbalance in the article

Urbannizer Apr 27, 2022 1:02 PM

Fifth and Lavaca Hotel Tower Plan Heads for Historic Review

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A hotel tower planned for the southeast corner of West Fifth and Lavaca Streets in downtown Austin will seek the approval of a demolition permit for two adjacent properties at 209 and 213 West Fifth Street from the Historic Landmark Commission early next month, according to city documents. The 28-story project by local hospitality builder Merritt Development Group proposes a 454-room dual-branded hotel containing two Hilton-owned identities: Embassy Suites and the Motto by Hilton “micro-hotel” flag, with each brand respectively occupying 268 and 186 rooms.
https://austin.towers.net/wp-content...1-1536x853.jpg

clubtokyo May 2, 2022 2:20 AM

I like this one. Looks pretty good!

Dariusb May 2, 2022 8:39 PM

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Originally Posted by clubtokyo (Post 9613684)
I like this one. Looks pretty good!

I agree!

Urbannizer May 19, 2022 4:18 PM

https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/n...ies-tower.html

Judge approves $95M sale of prime downtown development site once controlled by Nate Paul

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Provided the transaction ultimately closes, the partners hope to eventually build a mixed-use tower on the site that could feature a high-end hotel, office space, condos and ground-floor retail, sources said.

While the development team is still early in the planning process, they are said to be looking at architects to design what could potentially be one of the tallest towers in the Austin skyline. Sources familiar with the deal suggested the tower could ultimately rise as high as 90 stories — making it the tallest tower in Texas.

Others played down the potential of a record-breaking tower at the site, especially considering the uncertain status of the sale and economic conditions that could be unpredictable over the coming months and years. An existing ground lease at the site is another ongoing issue that could impact a potential project timeline."
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/authorin...jpg&width=1600

colemonkee May 19, 2022 4:36 PM

Does the property sale include both the surface lot and the two story building? Based on the article it appears that way.

Zapatan May 20, 2022 5:37 PM

Another new tallest? Holy sh*t.

Texas is on fire. It could be the tallest in the US outside NY or Chicago.

shakman May 20, 2022 8:07 PM

"90 stories - making it the tallest tower in Texas". Since when does number of floors make a building the tallest?

ILUVSAT May 20, 2022 8:09 PM

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Originally Posted by shakman (Post 9630263)
"90 stories - making it the tallest tower in Texas". Since when does number of floors make a building the tallest?

For some reason, that is the only metric by which "journalists" judge height.

Crazy to think...Austin could have the two tallest towers in Texas: "98 Red River" at 1,022' (site prep underway) and potentially this one at maybe 1,250'.

shakman May 20, 2022 8:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT (Post 9630268)
For some reason, that is the only metric by which "journalists" judge height.

Crazy to think...Austin could have the two tallest towers in Texas: "98 Red River" at 1,022' (site prep underway) and potentially this one at maybe 1,250'.

"Suspect in today's shooting is described as 2 billion cells tall."

Echostatic May 20, 2022 10:23 PM

The 1250' number that I've seen people quoting would make this tied with the Empire State for 9th in the USA. Personally I doubt this'll end up anywhere near that tall but man, wouldn't that be amazing to see in a city that didn't have a building over 500 feet less that twenty years ago?

KevinFromTexas May 21, 2022 2:46 AM

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Originally Posted by shakman (Post 9630263)
"90 stories - making it the tallest tower in Texas". Since when does number of floors make a building the tallest?

The media loves the word "stories" I wonder why. :haha:

Seriously, though, it could end up being 900 feet and still technically be "90 stories" as that is the generic term for a 900 foot building. Even on the forum people still suggest a 10 story building is 100 feet tall, which if you know anything about building heights and building types then it's unlikely 10 stories would be 100 feet, and would likely be taller. So me reading 90 stories makes me think of the 900 foot number. Of course, it really could have 90 floors and indeed be a new tallest for Texas. The terms stories and floors aren't always talking about the same thing. One is literally referring to how many floors a building has, and stories can be a rounded up generic number for a building. For example, if you go to the Tower of the Americas, they'll tell you the tower is 75 stories. It's a bit odd considering it only has 3 floors. The 75 story term is referring to the overall height of the tower, including the antenna - 750 feet. Which itself isn't correct either since officially antennas aren't counted in official building heights. The Empire State Building, for example, is 1,250 feet to the top of the dirigible mast, but the top of the antenna tops out at 1,454 feet.

ILUVSAT May 21, 2022 3:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 9630537)
The media loves the word "stories" I wonder why. :haha:

Seriously, though, it could end up being 900 feet and still technically be "90 stories" as that is the generic term for a 900 foot building. Even on the forum people still suggest a 10 story building is 100 feet tall, which if you know anything about building heights and building types then it's unlikely 10 stories would be 100 feet, and would likely be taller. So me reading 90 stories makes me think of the 900 foot number. Of course, it really could have 90 floors and indeed be a new tallest for Texas. The terms stories and floors aren't always talking about the same thing. One is literally referring to how many floors a building has, and stories can be a rounded up generic number for a building. For example, if you go to the Tower of the Americas, they'll tell you the tower is 75 stories. It's a bit odd considering it only has 3 floors. The 75 story term is referring to the overall height of the tower, including the antenna - 750 feet. Which itself isn't correct either since officially antennas aren't counted in official building heights. The Empire State Building, for example, is 1,250 feet to the top of the dirigible mast, but the top of the antenna tops out at 1,454 feet.

The TOA in San Antonio is 735' to the tip of the current antenna.

KevinFromTexas May 21, 2022 7:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT (Post 9630715)
The TOA in San Antonio is 735' to the tip of the current antenna.

Yeah, I remember something about a FAA permit showing that. That would be a reduction from the historical 750 foot number I've always read.

Zapatan May 22, 2022 3:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 9630537)
The media loves the word "stories" I wonder why. :haha:

Seriously, though, it could end up being 900 feet and still technically be "90 stories" as that is the generic term for a 900 foot building. Even on the forum people still suggest a 10 story building is 100 feet tall, which if you know anything about building heights and building types then it's unlikely 10 stories would be 100 feet, and would likely be taller. So me reading 90 stories makes me think of the 900 foot number. Of course, it really could have 90 floors and indeed be a new tallest for Texas. The terms stories and floors aren't always talking about the same thing. One is literally referring to how many floors a building has, and stories can be a rounded up generic number for a building. For example, if you go to the Tower of the Americas, they'll tell you the tower is 75 stories. It's a bit odd considering it only has 3 floors. The 75 story term is referring to the overall height of the tower, including the antenna - 750 feet. Which itself isn't correct either since officially antennas aren't counted in official building heights. The Empire State Building, for example, is 1,250 feet to the top of the dirigible mast, but the top of the antenna tops out at 1,454 feet.


True but floor count does give you an idea of height, and today even residential ceilings tend to be higher, especially if luxury rentals (or condos).

Not sure if this would be a mixed use tower but 90 floors could easily put it in the 11-1150 range, maybe higher.

Even worst case scenario it's still a 900+ footer.

Syndic May 22, 2022 5:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbannizer (Post 9629039)
https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/n...ies-tower.html

Judge approves $95M sale of prime downtown development site once controlled by Nate Paul

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/authorin...jpg&width=1600

Dooon't get me wrong, I'm over-the-moon about 1) Nate Paul losing properties and 2) the news of a new tallest in Texas but for some reason I always pictured this space getting filled by a new downtown public market. Remember when there was talk about that? I always thought this was a prime spot due to being loooong and very central.

Dariusb May 22, 2022 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndic (Post 9631016)
Dooon't get me wrong, I'm over-the-moon about 1) Nate Paul losing properties and 2) the news of a new tallest in Texas but for some reason I always pictured this space getting filled by a new downtown public market. Remember when there was talk about that? I always thought this was a prime spot due to being loooong and very central.

Maybe they'll have a ground floor market with residences and offices above. Don't know if they could put that there like that but just a thought.

The ATX May 22, 2022 11:18 PM

The 3rd & Congress 90-story mixed use tower is envisioned as office, residential & hotel. That is the same mix as the 1,022' 98 Red River supertall. Assuming the same floor to ceiling ratios as 98RR, 3rd & Congress would be 1,243'.

clubtokyo May 26, 2022 4:25 AM

That’s exciting! Let’s keep going taller!

Dariusb May 26, 2022 5:57 PM

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Originally Posted by clubtokyo (Post 9633959)
That’s exciting! Let’s keep going taller!

I know right! Just keeps getting better and better!

The ATX Jul 1, 2022 12:15 AM

Just to keep this thread from falling to page 2, in the last two days we got proposals for two 410' office towers on the south side of the river to continue the southerly downtown expansion and a 529' condo tower in the Rainey District.

The ATX Jul 1, 2022 2:07 PM

The list of the tallest Austin projects has been updated:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...05&postcount=6

There are at least 56 projects over 300'. Of those, 32 are at least 400', 21 are at least 500', 11 are over 600' and 5 are over 700'.

There are also 10-12 other projects that are not listed because the height or floor count is not yet showing up on city documents. Several of those are likely to be in the 500'-700' range.

The ATX Jul 2, 2022 2:09 PM

Here's a list of the 20 tallest projects underway - 12 are at least 500'

https://i.imgur.com/P5nDmcZ.png

ATXboom Jul 3, 2022 2:29 PM

Bonkers to think Austin will likely have a 1200 ft building in the next several years

The ATX Jul 3, 2022 4:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ATXboom (Post 9666314)
Bonkers to think Austin will likely have a 1200 ft building in the next several years

Yes, I'm looking forward to the site plan filing for 3rd & Congress to see what we are going to get as the next, next, next new tallest. :D There is already some money behind that project.

Dariusb Jul 3, 2022 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The ATX (Post 9666357)
Yes, I'm looking forward to the site plan filing for 3rd & Congress to see what we are going to get as the next, next, next new tallest. :D There is already some money behind that project.

If Austin keeps it up with these projects getting taller and taller it'll end up having the south/southwest's tallest buildings.

R1070 Jul 4, 2022 2:49 AM

I'm surprised 98 Red River didn't try to beat the BofA in Atlanta in height given it's just a foot shorter.

Dariusb Jul 4, 2022 6:02 AM

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Originally Posted by R1070 (Post 9666728)
I'm surprised 98 Red River didn't try to beat the BofA in Atlanta in height given it's just a foot shorter.

Oh wow! I had no idea they were that close in height.

R1070 Jul 4, 2022 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dariusb (Post 9666780)
Oh wow! I had no idea they were that close in height.

BofA in Atlanta is 1,023 feet to the top of the spire. If 98 Red River is 1,021 or 1,022 feet, it will be very close.

ILUVSAT Jul 4, 2022 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by R1070 (Post 9667259)
BofA in Atlanta is 1,023 feet to the top of the spire. If 98 Red River is 1,021 or 1,022 feet, it will be very close.

Didn't a FAA filing have 98 RR pegged at up to 1,034'?

R1070 Jul 5, 2022 1:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT (Post 9667280)
Didn't a FAA filing have 98 RR pegged at up to 1,034'?

I think that was to allow for the crane height.

clubtokyo Jul 5, 2022 5:49 PM

Nice list, Austin is getting tall!

KevinFromTexas Jul 5, 2022 6:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT (Post 9667280)
Didn't a FAA filing have 98 RR pegged at up to 1,034'?

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Originally Posted by R1070 (Post 9667452)
I think that was to allow for the crane height.

FAA permits are better than nothing, but I don't put too much confidence in them. They tend to over estimate/exaggurate the true height to add a buffer of comfort incase the project does gain a bit more height. I would always refer to the building permits/site plans/elevations for the true number. In this case, the height we've seen is 1,022 feet with 73 floors.

The crane height will be over 1,200 feet. These are luffing cranes which explains why they're so high over the roof of the building.

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Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 9437120)
FAA tower crane permits:

525 feet - Work Schedule: 11/01/2022 to 07/31/2024
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...98842842&row=2

1,001 feet - Work Schedule: 04/01/2022 to 11/30/2024
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...98842831&row=1

1,236 feet - Work Schedule: 10/01/2022 to 09/30/2025
https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external...98842830&row=0


photoLith Jul 6, 2022 5:17 PM

Are there any renderings or anything that will show what the Austin skyline will look like in a few years with all of these new towers going up? Would love to see a rendering.

The ATX Jul 6, 2022 5:57 PM

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Originally Posted by photoLith (Post 9669037)
Are there any renderings or anything that will show what the Austin skyline will look like in a few years with all of these new towers going up? Would love to see a rendering.

Not that I know of. But forum member Studioinnovatus did this one showing the four tallest projects in the northern half of the Rainey District. Three of the four have started. There are several more in the southern half as well but not shown.

https://i.imgur.com/H0GX4Ko.jpg

clubtokyo Jul 7, 2022 2:32 AM

It’s going to look like a completely different city and definitely on its way to best skyline in Texas title.

Syndic Jul 7, 2022 5:25 AM

https://i.giphy.com/media/Fkmgse8OMKn9C/giphy.webp

Dariusb Jul 8, 2022 8:12 PM

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Originally Posted by clubtokyo (Post 9669553)
It’s going to look like a completely different city and definitely on its way to best skyline in Texas title.

Most definitely! Exciting times my friend!!

Urbannizer Jul 9, 2022 5:30 AM

East Riverside Gateway| Riverside

https://placemkr.com/properties/southeast-oz-mixed-use/

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The site has exceptional ERC as-of-right zoning designation that will allow for high-density mixed-use development.

The site has extremely dense right-of-zoning designations that will allow for more than 2 MSF of mixed-use redevelopment.

The project will feature multifamily, office, and retail located along the Project Connect light rail line.
https://placemkr.com/wp-content/uplo...d-1024x456.jpg

https://placemkr.com/wp-content/uplo...d-1024x685.jpg

https://placemkr.com/wp-content/uplo...17-resized.png

https://placemkr.com/wp-content/uplo...1-1024x579.jpg

https://placemkr.com/wp-content/uplo...d-1024x680.jpg

Dariusb Jul 9, 2022 6:58 PM

Cool development. It seems like Austin has a lot more dense development proposals compared to other Texas cities. I'm wondering will that eventually spread to other areas outside of downtown?

N90 Jul 9, 2022 7:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dariusb (Post 9671929)
Cool development. It seems like Austin has a lot more dense development proposals compared to other Texas cities. I'm wondering will that eventually spread to other areas outside of downtown?

This development is outside of downtown and there are many other dense projects outside of downtown too.

But this is not particular to just Austin, Dallas and Houston have been doing dense developments all throughout their cores for decades now.


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