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R1070 Jan 14, 2022 3:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrvineNative (Post 9502787)
The closest I've been to Austin is Dallas, so I'm not an expert, but here's my impressions of Austin:

1. Austin is proof positive that even if your city is super-NIMBY, you'll still grow gangbusters with good weather, low crime, low cost of living (relative to SF/LA), low taxes, and a strong corporate economy.

2. It's a myth that Austin has an inadequate expressway system.
Austin actually more expressway lane-miles per capita than Los Angeles and Sacramento. But when you're the fastest growing major metro area in the country, no matter how fast you build freeways, you're not going to keep up with demand.

3. Austin drivers avoid toll roads like the plague, so the toll roads end up being nearly empty while the free roads get clogged like hell.

4. People keep complaining about SH 130 being too far from Downtown to be useful. But SH 130 was literally built as a bypass, and a bypass is literally designed to go around the edge of the city. The problem with SH 130 is that tolls are too damn high, so no one uses it and instead clogs up I-35 and MoPac.

5. Lowering tolls on SH 130 to divert all thru traffic off I-35 onto SH 130 would work wonders. The Texas Transportation Institute studied that at the busiest portion of I-35, 14 percent or so of traffic is thru traffic (i.e. just passing through Austin). Now that sounds minute, but reducing car count by 14 percent would likely reduce traffic congestion by a whopping 45 percent. Because it turns out that decreasing vehicle count by 10% often reduces traffic congestion by three or even four times the factor (30-40%).

6. I have extremely high hopes for Project Connect. I believe that, after Los Angeles and Seattle, it will, hands down, have the highest ridership of any light rail system in the US once complete. Why? Because not only is Austin proper densifying like a weed, Metro Austin employment is highly concentrated in Downtown. Metro areas with the highest concentration of jobs in Downtown do the best with transit ridership.

Good points, but DFW is the fastest growing metro in the country.

The ATX Jan 14, 2022 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R1070 (Post 9502875)
Good points, but DFW is the fastest growing metro in the country.

Fastest growing implies a growth rate percentage, and Austin is the fastest growing large Metro by that measure.
Dallas/FW has been having the biggest increase in raw numbers. It has a slower growth rate but a much larger Metro population. That means it can have a bigger increase in raw numbers. So it depends which metric is used.

wwmiv Jan 14, 2022 1:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The ATX (Post 9503023)
Fastest growing implies a growth rate percentage, and Austin is the fastest growing large Metro by that measure.
Dallas/FW has been having the biggest increase in raw numbers. It has a slower growth rate but a much larger Metro population. That means it can have a bigger increase in raw numbers. So it depends which metric is used.

Put more simply:

Austin has the fastest growth, Dallas has the largest growth.

The ATX Jan 14, 2022 1:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wwmiv (Post 9503046)
Put more simply:

Austin has the fastest growth, Dallas has the largest growth.

:cheers:

TexasPlaya Jan 14, 2022 9:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IrvineNative (Post 9502787)
The closest I've been to Austin is Dallas, so I'm not an expert, but here's my impressions of Austin:

1. Austin is proof positive that even if your city is super-NIMBY, you'll still grow gangbusters with good weather, low crime, low cost of living (relative to SF/LA), low taxes, and a strong corporate economy.

2. It's a myth that Austin has an inadequate expressway system.
Austin actually more expressway lane-miles per capita than Los Angeles and Sacramento. But when you're the fastest growing major metro area in the country, no matter how fast you build freeways, you're not going to keep up with demand.

3. Austin drivers avoid toll roads like the plague, so the toll roads end up being nearly empty while the free roads get clogged like hell.

4. People keep complaining about SH 130 being too far from Downtown to be useful. But SH 130 was literally built as a bypass, and a bypass is literally designed to go around the edge of the city. The problem with SH 130 is that tolls are too damn high, so no one uses it and instead clogs up I-35 and MoPac.

5. Lowering tolls on SH 130 to divert all thru traffic off I-35 onto SH 130 would work wonders. The Texas Transportation Institute studied that at the busiest portion of I-35, 14 percent or so of traffic is thru traffic (i.e. just passing through Austin). Now that sounds minute, but reducing car count by 14 percent would likely reduce traffic congestion by a whopping 45 percent. Because it turns out that decreasing vehicle count by 10% often reduces traffic congestion by three or even four times the factor (30-40%).

6. I have extremely high hopes for Project Connect. I believe that, after Los Angeles and Seattle, it will, hands down, have the highest ridership of any light rail system in the US once complete. Why? Because not only is Austin proper densifying like a weed, Metro Austin employment is highly concentrated in Downtown. Metro areas with the highest concentration of jobs in Downtown do the best with transit ridership.

Austin has just hit a major bottleneck these last couple of years between growth and supply as housing/rent has had some of the largest increases.

Austin still has plenty of space. You mentioned SH130, but 183S (the section which runs parallel between I35 and SH130) has recently been upgraded along with a toll road. The issue is greater east Austin never really develop until recently, but I feel like it's about to blow up with houses, apartments, and retail.

IrvineNative Jan 15, 2022 7:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexasPlaya (Post 9503667)
Austin has just hit a major bottleneck these last couple of years between growth and supply as housing/rent has had some of the largest increases.

Austin still has plenty of space. You mentioned SH130, but 183S (the section which runs parallel between I35 and SH130) has recently been upgraded along with a toll road. The issue is greater east Austin never really develop until recently, but I feel like it's about to blow up with houses, apartments, and retail.

Yes, I heard about 183S being upgraded to become a toll road. Which busts the myth that Austin has very few expressways for a metro of its size or isn't building any new expressways.

Los Angeles and Sacramento have very few expressways for a metro of their size, and aren't building any new ones. Ever. Good luck trying to get arterials upgraded to expressways in LA. Unlike Texas, California self-flagellates itself for sprawl and thinks new freeways are the Devil.

Housing stats change so fast its hard to keep up, but IIRC, San Diego and Los Angeles home prices have rose even faster than Dallas (and probably Austin) home prices, despite Metro Austin growing 10x faster than Metro LA!

Dale Jan 15, 2022 7:57 PM

What does downtown Austin’s street retail looking like ? Are retail spaces in newly completed projects filling up ?

The ATX Jan 15, 2022 8:03 PM

Austin has at least three towers between 640' & 675' breaking ground this quarter.


The 640' 415 Colorado tower got underway this week with barriers for street closures for Demo and construction going up around the site.

https://i.imgur.com/8rifzyD.png


The 675' 321 West tower gets underway next week with street closures around the site for Demo and construction scheduled for Friday. The final renderings have not been released, but it will be similar to this previous rendering.

https://i.imgur.com/G8c6BmH.png


The 658' Modern Austin tower is financed with a 03/21 groundbreaking. The developer is letting the two bars on the site to host SXSW events before closing; hence the March groundbreaking.

https://i.imgur.com/2nJ0Nnl.png

Urbannizer Jan 16, 2022 7:03 AM

98 Red River

https://i.imgur.com/GTN0qfdh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/J0BUndwh.jpg

6 X Guadalupe

https://i.imgur.com/cAzzVoEh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5MVAsLGh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XHqpRF8h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/9Nnarfkh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XieK2kyh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/MLvn4kkh.jpg

The Republic

https://i.imgur.com/PAVerYJh.jpg

clubtokyo Jan 16, 2022 7:14 AM

6x looking real good!

Urbannizer Jan 16, 2022 7:21 AM

Hanover Brazos Street

https://i.imgur.com/xE0pgygh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XxtW2Xjh.jpg

River Street Residences

https://i.imgur.com/n3X8btTh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QGKvc3oh.jpg

Vesper

https://i.imgur.com/IATHPyvh.jpg

307 E. 2nd

https://i.imgur.com/hmjUhWCh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wHDHH6Ch.jpg

415 Colorado

https://i.imgur.com/iDokxSdh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/N7FkwrSh.jpg

IrvineNative Jan 17, 2022 2:28 AM

So anyone got the lowdown on Project Connect? I've heard some details (Downtown tunnel, platform screen doors) that are awesome but not much beyond that. I've seen ridership estimates also vary wildly.

https://austinrailnow.com/2020/01/31...ail-into-lead/

This site suggests that if the 20-mile Orange Line is a grade-separated LRT it will get up to 74,000 riders or 3700 riders/mile! That is a per-mile ridership rivaling Seattle's Central Link pre-COVID! And Austin proper is lower density than Seattle proper!

So will Austin entirely elevate/tunnel the Orange Line?

Outside SF, Boston, and LA, here are the three LRTs I bet will have the highest 2040 ridership:

1. Seattle
2. Austin
3. San Diego

Echostatic Jan 17, 2022 5:24 AM

In Phase 1 of Project Connect, which is what is currently funded, the darker portions here will be grade-separated:

https://i.imgur.com/Z3DKZU7.png

Including Phase 2:

https://i.imgur.com/H7qyAoh.png

Editing to add in the commuter rail; the Red Line, which already exists, and the Green Line, which is partially funded in Phase 1 and will be extended Eastward in Phase 2. All at grade - it's only commuter rail, after all.

The ATX Jan 17, 2022 5:02 PM

Site prep is already happening for the 98 Red River supertall. But a long term right of way closure permit for construction was filed today. The scheduled start date is 04/04/2022!

https://abc.austintexas.gov/public-s...rtyrsn=2019189

https://i.imgur.com/4MCCJR1.png
https://i.imgur.com/cUcp1yb.png

IrvineNative Jan 18, 2022 2:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Echostatic (Post 9505243)
In Phase 1 of Project Connect, which is what is currently funded, the darker portions here will be grade-separated:

Editing to add in the commuter rail; the Red Line, which already exists, and the Green Line, which is partially funded in Phase 1 and will be extended Eastward in Phase 2. All at grade - it's only commuter rail, after all.

Yeah, commuter rail doesn't (and often shouldn't) be grade-separated. Denver's highly successful A Line commuter rail really saved costs by avoiding grade-separation (and several portions are only single-tracked) and they still got 20K+ riders pre-COVID, not to mention have an average speed of 37 mph or so.

A bit disappointing the Orange Line will run mostly at-grade in street medians. But from prelim reports, it looks like the Orange Line will still run 21 miles in 54 minutes for an impressive 23 mph. Austin has the right idea--you don't need to grade separate your entire line for speed, you only need to grade separate the downtown corridor, where street-running LRT runs the slowest.

But imagine if Austin grade separated its LRT as much as Seattle, whose Link Line 1 is 26 miles and only has 57 min travel time!

R1070 Jan 18, 2022 3:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The ATX (Post 9505517)
Site prep is already happening for the 98 Red River supertall. But a long term right of way closure permit for construction was filed today. The scheduled start date is 04/04/2022!

https://abc.austintexas.gov/public-s...rtyrsn=2019189

https://i.imgur.com/4MCCJR1.png
https://i.imgur.com/cUcp1yb.png

I'm excited for Austin to get this, but it's just so awkward looking.

Dale Jan 18, 2022 12:58 PM

^ Ah well, at present growth rate, it’ll be eclipsed by other taller towers.

eburress Jan 18, 2022 2:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R1070 (Post 9506085)
I'm excited for Austin to get this, but it's just so awkward looking.

I agree. I wish there was a more fluid connection between the upper portions of the tower.

AviationGuy Jan 19, 2022 4:18 AM

Agree...very awkward design. Unattractive, and it is embarrassing that it will be built here.

llamaorama Jan 19, 2022 5:41 AM

It reminds me of that weird looking tower from around 2006 that was proposed. Or was that a Denver thing? Trango Tower was the name?

I’ve been on this site too long…

EDIT: it was the T Stacy Tower and the recession killed it.

clubtokyo Jan 19, 2022 9:44 PM

I actually like the design. It’s different!

migol24 Jan 19, 2022 11:51 PM

Y'all are going to disagree with me but people also disagreed with me about the Google building.
I think it will be a better looking building than these renderings show. It's going to stand out in a very good way.

colemonkee Jan 20, 2022 1:35 AM

I was going to say the exact same thing, but Dale beat me to the punch. I personally find it awkward with the massing taking different direction and alignments without an apparent rhyme or reason to why it does it. But migol24 makes a good point - the Google tower turned out way better than the renderings, so there's hope for this one yet.

drummer Jan 20, 2022 4:54 PM

I agree that this one will turn out better than the renderings. I'm excited about it.

Urbannizer Jan 22, 2022 5:49 AM

Two high-rises completed recently for the current semesters in West Campus.

Villas on Rio

http://www.rhodepartners.com/projects#/villasonrio/

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=2000w

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=2000w

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=2000w

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=2000w

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=1500w

Torre

http://www.rhodepartners.com/project...re-apartments/

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=2000w

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=2000w

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=2000w

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=2000w

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=2000w

Syndic Jan 22, 2022 9:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbannizer (Post 9504683)

Man, I blinked and this rose up. I had no idea it was this far along.

Quote:

Originally Posted by R1070 (Post 9506085)
I'm excited for Austin to get this, but it's just so awkward looking.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AviationGuy (Post 9507249)
Agree...very awkward design. Unattractive, and it is embarrassing that it will be built here.

Put me in down in the opposite column. I love that we're building awkward-looking towers. I think we should make this city as weird-looking as possible.

Anyway, I don't think it will be as "awkward" as y'all are thinking. If you see this angle as the "front", then the top peak is super geometrically/aesthetically-pleasing and attractive. I think it'll end up being one of everyone's favorite buildings.

https://i.imgur.com/cUcp1yb.png

ILUVSAT Jan 22, 2022 10:52 PM

Following the recent announcement by American to serve Cozumel and Montego Bay from AUS I thought I'd put the following together (posted in the Austin thread).


Pretty impressive list being developed by AUS!


14 International Destinations:
-Nassau, Bahamas (AA)
-Calgary, Canada (WS)
-Toronto, Canada (AC)
-Liberia, Costa Rica (AA)
-Punta Cana, Dominican Republic (AA)
-London, England (BA, VS)
-Frankfurt, Germany (LH)
-Montego Bay, Jamaica (AA)
-Cancun, Mexico (AA, B6, WN, NK, SY)
-Cozumel, Mexico (AA, WN)
-Mexico City, Mexico (AM)
-Puerto Vallarta, Mexico (AA, WN)
-San Jose del Cabo, Mexico (AA, WN)
-Amsterdam, Netherlands (KL)


PLUS:
-Honolulu, Hawai'i (HA)
-San Juan, Puerto Rico (AA)


**Sadly, Norwegian's long haul service has ceased operations. They were about to commence AUS-CDG and were heavily contemplating a AUS-BCN route prior to the Pandemic. Ugh... Maybe someone else will initiate a AUS-CDG route soon. Also, I hope a AUS-NRT or AUS-ICN route will be announced in the coming few years.

GoldenBoot Jan 23, 2022 2:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILUVSAT (Post 9511205)
Following the recent announcement by American to serve Cozumel and Montego Bay from AUS I thought I'd put the following together (posted in the Austin thread).


Pretty impressive list being developed by AUS!


14 International Destinations:
-Nassau, Bahamas (AA)
-Calgary, Canada (WS)
-Toronto, Canada (AC)
-Liberia, Costa Rica (AA)
-Punta Cana, Dominican Republic (AA)
-London, England (BA, VS)
-Frankfurt, Germany (LH)
-Montego Bay, Jamaica (AA)
-Cancun, Mexico (AA, B6, WN, NK, SY)
-Cozumel, Mexico (AA, WN)
-Mexico City, Mexico (AM)
-Puerto Vallarta, Mexico (AA, WN)
-San Jose del Cabo, Mexico (AA, WN)
-Amsterdam, Netherlands (KL)


PLUS:
-Honolulu, Hawai'i (HA)
-San Juan, Puerto Rico (AA)


**Sadly, Norwegian's long haul service has ceased operations. They were about to commence AUS-CDG and were heavily contemplating a AUS-BCN route prior to the Pandemic. Ugh... Maybe someone else will initiate a AUS-CDG route soon. Also, I hope a AUS-NRT or AUS-ICN route will be announced in the coming few years.


What's amazing is that those 14 international destinations are served by 12 airlines (seven of whom are foreign carriers). And that does not include Hawaiian's wide-body service to Honolulu 4x weekly.

Urbannizer Jan 25, 2022 7:08 AM

https://i.imgur.com/L85kl7F.jpg

colemonkee Jan 25, 2022 4:32 PM

Both those dorm buildings turned out much better than I had expected. Good stuff! Man, if I ad a rooftop pool in college, I don't think I would have graduated!

clubtokyo Jan 26, 2022 3:38 AM

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Originally Posted by colemonkee (Post 9513638)
Both those dorm buildings turned out much better than I had expected. Good stuff! Man, if I ad a rooftop pool in college, I don't think I would have graduated!

Lol exactly. These kids are spoiled.

Urbannizer Jan 26, 2022 9:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clubtokyo (Post 9514444)
Lol exactly. These kids are spoiled.

I have a few friends who decided to move to/stay in West Campus. One lives on the top floor of 21Rio with a nice view of Downtown. I myself was there well after attending ACC. Convenient location and somewhat affordable especially if you’re up for the roomate situation (compared to other areas of Austin).

Urbannizer Jan 27, 2022 5:55 AM

6xGuad

Tallest building under construction outside of NYC & Chicago.

https://i.imgur.com/kK8NzeYh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ytNHvvRh.jpg

clubtokyo Jan 27, 2022 10:00 PM

Looking like a beast!

R1070 Jan 28, 2022 2:54 AM

I'm excited about this one. I'll take a drive down to Austin once it's complete.

IMBY Jan 28, 2022 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R1070 (Post 9506085)
I'm excited for Austin to get this, but it's just so awkward looking.

Anything to be different! I'll close my eyes to this building if ever I'm in downtown Austin sometime!

clubtokyo Jan 29, 2022 4:05 AM

It’s incredible to watch this be built and when checking in once every few weeks on trips downtown it just keeps getting bigger!

The ATX Feb 4, 2022 9:25 PM

Here is a link to my updated list of tallest active projects in Austin.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...05&postcount=6

1 over 1,000'
11 over 600'
20 over 500'
46 over 300'

clubtokyo Feb 6, 2022 3:46 AM

Thanks ATX for that list! Incredible!

Dariusb Feb 7, 2022 6:09 AM

Thanks ATX!

Urbannizer Feb 10, 2022 6:08 AM

Block 164

Quote:

Originally Posted by myBrain (Post 9531280)


JerellO Feb 10, 2022 7:41 AM

Amazing! Austin has really changed since last time I saw it. It’ll only get better :tup:

Urbannizer Feb 11, 2022 6:28 AM

The Waller

https://i.imgur.com/airs9JZh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/3V843Bmh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/WEJToH0h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/LpNwUVx.png

clubtokyo Feb 12, 2022 3:30 AM

The blue tower I am super stoked to watch it go up!

The ATX Feb 17, 2022 9:42 PM

We've had a flurry of groundbreaking news in Austin over the past few weeks. This is a list of the 20 tallest active projects in Austin - all over 500'. The ones with a green stripe are either already underway or have an April construction start date per long term street closure permits filed for construction.

That's 11 total over 500', 6 total over 600' including a supertall.

https://i.imgur.com/6r3aFAn.png

The ATX Feb 18, 2022 2:13 PM

In addition to the 500'+ towers in my previous post, there are nine more between 300' & 500' either underway or have an April start date per long term right of way closure for construction permits.

Urbannizer Feb 18, 2022 8:30 PM

It Sure Looks Like the Republic Tower’s Breaking Ground This Spring

Quote:

Ah, ze Republic. A tower like no other. She has many charms, non? Not ze least of which is her fashionable lateness, which has vexed Austin’s skyscraper enthusiasts — sorry, amateurs de gratte-ciel — since the project’s first appearance in 2018.

But after a few breadcrumbs of progress over the last couple of years, including some mysterious (and still unexplained) site plan updates last year and undated crane permits earlier this year, we finally have le pistolet fumant — a permit for the parking lot was filed earlier today by general contractors Harvey-Cleary on behalf of the project’s developers at Lincoln Property Company, requesting the closure of sidewalks all around the tower site, “to allow for the construction of The Republic project located at 401 W. 4th St.” The permit includes a start date of April 18, 2022.
https://austin.towers.net/wp-content...public_06.jpeg

colemonkee Feb 19, 2022 12:50 AM

^ Nice! The Republic screams of Pickard-Chilton, in a good way. Is that who designed it?

The ATX Feb 19, 2022 1:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colemonkee (Post 9542243)
^ Nice! The Republic screams of Pickard-Chilton, in a good way. Is that who designed it?

It was Duda Paine.

clubtokyo Feb 23, 2022 2:07 AM

Can’t wait!


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