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Here's a photo that's just titled "A front view of the Yale Apt. building set on a slight hill, with a recessed front entrance area." No date or address is listed, but now odinthor has identified it. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...eAptsHotel.jpg LAPL |
Wow, you people are good! Now I'd like to show you the pic from my parents 1938 album. You can see the Yale Hotel in the background, left side.
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Welcome to NLA, edmeyer. :) The building in the (left) background of your parents' photograph doesn't appear to match the building at 975 Wilshire. The corner of the building in your photograph is angled. (I believe the term is cut-off corner) maybe . |
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I think the picture was taken in Lincoln Park, Long Beach. There was a Yale Hotel at 143 W 1st Street, adjacent to the park. The portion of the building I've circled is I think the top floors of the Security Pacific National Bank building at 102-110 Pine Ave. https://i.imgur.com/GWVPq7v.jpeg GSV |
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This is the description: Shows a woman and several children by a display with a sign that reads "Belmont Branch Library." They are probably participating in a special event sponsored by the library. The three girls are wearing aprons and have cooking materials on the table in front of them. The four boys are dressed up and have a model sailboat and boat making materials on the table in front of them. The Columbia Building, Yale Hotel, and Heartwell Building and other structures are visible in the background. DATE NOTES: Circa 1920'shttps://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...leHotelLB1.jpg I've zoomed in for a better look at the hotel. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...leHotelLB2.jpg LBPL Digital Archive |
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I believe Noir_Noir nailed it (with supporting material from Hoss). We're looking east from Lincoln Park. The Yale is at the northeast corner of Pacific and 1st. The belltower you see a block away is (still!) at the northwest corner of Pine and 1st. The Heartwell Bldg. was at the northwest corner of Ocean and Pine. This is a very familiar area through my whole life, and I laugh at myself for not recognizing it sooner! Edit Add: Oh, good grief--I have the Yale on my own site: https://i.postimg.cc/PxkPGr1G/HotYal.jpg odinthor collection You can see it third from the end at: https://home.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal18.html, and the following chapter shows bits of the area as well: https://home.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal19.html :cheers: |
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I can't believe you found these photos. Looks like it definitely is where my parents' picture was taken! Wish they were still alive so I could show them what I found...
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It seems to me that we had a post on a downtown truck stop some years back, but nothing turned up in a search..... .....I pulled up the '57 Yellow Pages, they had no classification for "Truck Stop".....I did find this.... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...370&fit=bounds ....note Paul's Signal Service at 1389 E. 7th St., this would be the n.w. corner of 7th and Alameda.....a 1960 permit.... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds .....the permit included a sketch of the improvements.... https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds The sketch does not indicate pump islands, but prior permits confirm a Signal Oil station at the site, so this facility was possibly the truck stop in the photo....the site is now a portion of a large parking lot for L.A. Metro buses. |
Add re: Gary O. Greer of the above post....
https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...720&fit=bounds Gary O. Greer, 82, of Barnhart MO. died Jan. 29, 2022, at his home. Mr. Greer was a professional truck driver and a member of the American Truck Historical Society. Born March 4, 1939, in Chester, Ill., he was the son of the late Ruth (Knowles) and Chester Greer. He was preceded in death by his wife of 56 years: Antoinette (Brady) Greer. |
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I just happened upon this intriguing rppc on eBay. Selller's description:.."Real Photo Postcard Garden Fountain at Markham's Home in Hollywood, California" (the reverse is blank) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/eXT8eq.jpg eBay Unless I'm mistaken, this the home of William F. Markham located at 1453 N. Vine Street. ..If so, this is by far the best photograph of the fountain and gardens! Most interesting (to me) is when it (Markham residence) was knowned as the Commonwealth House, a meeting place for various Communist organizations. Here's an earlier post. Quote:
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Here's an interesting negative listed on eBay. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/Ps5Jyk.jpg Seller's description:.."LOS ANGELES ANTIQUE PHOTO NEGATIVE DOWNTOWN CONSTRUCTION c. 1905" < - - - - the date might be wrong / too early. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/pPcWy7.jpg eBay Anyone know what's under construction?..At the very bottom there appears to be an ornate facade. Do you see it? . |
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Here's another interesting negative. Seller's description:.."Antique 1920 Lankershim North Hollywood LoAngeles Photo Negative Bonner Fruit. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/HhjEaX.jpg eBay The seller didn't provide a positive image. . |
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The Bonner Fruit company's eight acre tract was "just west of the Southern Pacific Depot" in Lankershim (LA Times 5/25/1925); and the Southern Pacific Depot in Lankershim was at what is now 11275 Chandler Boulevard. https://i.postimg.cc/rpwnN9bH/Bonner-LAT-1912-9-22.jpg LA Times, 9/22/1912 https://i.postimg.cc/8kxbLbBZ/Bonner-Fruit-Label.jpg From https://ladailymirror.com/2013/12/02...lleys-peaches/ |
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New info to me! The mention of Lankershim meant "boulevard" to me. I had no idea it was once a place name. So, wikipedia has a page with some of this interesting info: Lankershim, Los Angeles County, California https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanker...ty,_California Lankershim and West Lankershim are historical names for an area in what is now the greater North Hollywood section of the San Fernando Valley region of Los Angeles County, California. Lankershim was originally named Toluca. The center of the town, laid out by James Boon Lankershim and his brother-in-law, I.N. Van Nuys, was the "intersection of present day Chandler Blvd. and Lankershim Blvd." Lankershim agreed to be annexed to the City of Los Angeles in 1923. The intent of annexation was to connect the settlement's access to the water from the Los Angeles Aqueduct system. West Lankershim agreed to be annexed to the City of Los Angeles in 1919. West Lankershim has been described as the "Valley Plaza area of North Hollywood" or as basically what is now called Valley Village. The name of the local post office was changed from Toluca to Lankershim in 1912. In 1925 the population of Lankershim was 2,000. The current name North Hollywood was adopted August 15, 1927 to capitalize "on the glamour of Hollywood to the southeast." The post office address was legally changed that day and "all the signs along Magnolia Boulevard, Lankershim Boulevard and other large highways had been painted out from signs and the new name substituted." There are maps and a couple photos at the link. |
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https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...269e9d2b_b.jpg This is looking west on Seventh from about Hill. The three main large structures at center are the (backsides of) the Brockman and Bronson bldgs at Seventh and Grand, and the big guy is the Athletic Club. Under construction, foreground, I'm not sure. It's now the site of the 1928 Foreman & Clark building. I'd guess this image dates to about 1918 (it's after the Ville de Paris went up, which you can be glimpsed behind the under-construction fellow, and which was put up in 1917). |
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Here is an interesting map from 1890. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/924/VSqgJJ.jpg LRL-WC Hmmm. .so why does the title include "and Water Co.'? Here's a closer look. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/wwySK4.jpg Veeeery interesting. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/9871/mpjqpq.gif . |
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And Lankershim with plots. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/923/ePb3Ur.jpg PBS-SoCal 'Lankershim' ceased to exist in 1927 when the name was changed to North Hollywood...No doubt to take advantage of the success of Hollywood on the other end of the Cahuenga Pass. Of course there was a 'Toluca' too. (before the lake) . |
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I ran across a snapshot today from the 1980s that piqued my interest because it reminded me of my former neighorhood of West Hollywood. . . .from eBay. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/I8ri8j.jpg No, that isn't me. :laugh: What intrigues me is the old stone pillar(?) on the left edge of the photo. It's completely incongruous to the rest of the neighborhood. I know that there used to be stone 'entranceways' on some city streets but I don't believe there were any in West Hollywood. Help :whip oops ha ha .. |
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me to the Warner Hollywood Theatre, and The Larry Ceballos Revue. It appears that she was indeed a dancer/chorus girl if the 2nd standing lady on the right side is her: https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...e%20(1928).jpg IMDB https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JZi...ew?usp=sharing It also appears to me that the tall metal flue is on the roof of the Warner Theatre based on this image: https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...erH-Bing-2.jpg Los Angeles Theatres https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...arner-flue.jpg The 2 story building with the staircase, and some of the other buildings in the negative are still around per the Google Steetview tour I took: https://blogger.googleusercontent.co...0-h344/gsv.jpg GSV |
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THE 'FLUE FLAPPER' MYSTERY LOCATION SOLVED Wow! You 100% solved the location, vexedbystuff. :worship: :worship: I took a closer at the neighboring building in the old negative and everything matches. . even the rear stairs. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/iOPI2H.jpg https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/05qNs1.jpg Thanks for sticking with this mystery. :) . |
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A mystery location for a quiet Sunday aftrnoon. Folks, I definitely could use some help with this snapshot I happened upon on eBay earlier today. "1965 ORIGINAL 5X7 PHOTO LAUGH MAKERS COMDEY NOW & THEN HOLLYWOOD CALIFORNIA" https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/6sxtga.jpg eBay I'm guessing that 'ual arts' on the fence is 'mutual arts'. :shrug: Here's a closer look at the marquee-like gate. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/jrpFZp.jpg detail The date and location are on the back of the photo. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/h1JF6L.jpg Anyone care to help? Let me rephrase that. . . :whip: . |
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entrance to Palisades Park in Santa Monica. This GSV shot faces in the same direction as the eBay photo, and the stones on the right edge of the larger pillar match the eBay pic. https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...y_2016_GSV.jpg Farid Hamedy May 2016 GSV I don't know when they put the curb further out in the street, but that's definitely the Oceana (where Stan Laurel spent his last years) in the background. Here's a maybe c. 1980 shot of the Oceana before it was remodeled; the flags and blue squares above the entrance match the eBay photo: https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...humps_Tent.jpg Beau Chumps Tent |
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Here is the OCEANA in the 1960s. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/922/eAtQmW.jpg flickr Oceana Hotel and Apartment Suites 849 Ocean Ave., Santa Monica, Calif. 90403 "California's finest and most outstanding Resort Hotel on the Palisades Park overlooking the blue Pacific. Luxurious Accommodations - Heated Pool - Free Color TV Free Subterranean Parking - 24 Hour Switchboard Service - Fully Equipped Kitchens - Studios - 1 and 2 Bedroom Suites - all with 2 Baths and Private Balconies - Free Continental Breakfast." . |
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Oh my, take a look at this! https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/yd2vIw.jpg historyhomes "Stan Laurel's home is on Ocean Avenue in Santa Monica, California. In the early 1960s the famed comedian, along with his wife, Ida, moved into a second floor, ocean view apartment, here at the Oceana Hotel. It would prove to be his final home. He won a special Lifetime Achievement Academy Award in 1961 while he was living here. He died on February 23, 1965 after suffering a heart attack several days earlier in his room." And here he is waving at fans! https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/4nvSeI.jpg How cool is that! More at beauchumps . |
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Thanks for figuring the location of the Lytton Visual Arts Center, Beaudry. (and for the photo, Hoss) ... .but I'm still a bit confused by the eBay photograph. The photographer appears to be standing in the middle of the entrance to the parking lot (right?). . sooooooooo what is the marquee gate for. . . an exit? :shrug: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...923/kUAbqJ.jpg And in this aerial the buildings are where the lot should be. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/gbBIcx.png Annnnnnd. . .this #2 building . . . https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/ECu4IR.jpg . .is this #2 building, right? https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/eznkHY.jpg If so, it's blocking the view of Apt. bldg #1. . . .sooooo the parking lot in the eBay photo would have to be behind it in order to see Apt. building #1, right? The answer is probably obvious and I'm going to be embarrassed. :runaway: . |
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From my original post, here is the lower level parking lot and gallery, so I think that vexedbystuff is correct that the marquee was at the top of a ramp. The strip mall was only built in the late-80s. The section labeled #2 by e_r is actually part of the bank - see GSV. Quote:
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Let's travel down to Long Beach in search of the Doll Hospital. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq70/924/rbHS18.jpg eBay There are a few clues if you look closely. The name of the hotel might be at the top of the blade sign. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/AQfCJ0.jpg There appears to be an Italian restaurant specializing in Ravioli in the distance. ..wink Hmm. .the name of the hotel might be longer than what's written at the top of the blade sign. (see below) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/8eBC3S.jpg Now, about those sick dolls. . |
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The 1937 CD lists Frances Chappel's Doll Hospital at 229 E 4th Street. Going by the same CD, 225 E 4th was Rowe & Son, Hat Cleaners, 227 E 4th was Howard B Lathrom, Watch Repairers, 233 E 4th Street was the Hotel Flo-Ednor, and 235 E 4th was Labor News (Weekly). In later years, 229 E 4th Street became Richie's Luggage and Repair Shop (1948), Rod's Magic Shop (1951/52) and The Humidor (1955). The Rivoli sign belonged to the Rivoli Theatre at 525 American Avenue (now Long Beach Boulevard). There are a couple of pictures of its marquee at cinematreasures.org. |
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There are a couple of things that I've never noticed about the old St. Francis Hotel / Apartments. For instance, the 'appendage' (wing?) sticking out in the back on the east side. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/fak3H3.jpg It's virtually impossible to see it from any angle. (especial after the Marshall's store was built directly to the east) I thought perhaps it was an addition (annex?) but I see it is original to the building. (see below) https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/tVh2H2.jpg LATimes JHGraham Another thing I didn't know was that the hotel's garage was located on the opposite side of Hollywood Boulevard. (that's rather inconvient) Here's a photograph of it. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/sjE65l.jpg LATimes JHGraham The garage is no longer there. _______________________ I was really intrigued about Kenneth Anger living in the St. Francis, Snix. I had never heard that before. I saw a couple of mentions of it online but without much detail. Does anyone know when he was a resident? Was it when he was young or later in his life? (I believe Anger also lived at the Chateau Marmont) Kenneth Anger - 1955. https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/7uh7JZ.jpg Variety Newspaper articles and ads from JHGraham . |
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It appears something was up involving 5533 Hollywood Blvd. by 1930: https://i.postimg.cc/SNf854DR/St-Fra...-1930-7-30.jpg LA Times, 7/30/1930 |
Jack Dragna was a Mafia boss in Los Angeles for decades. He didn't always get along with the flashier Mickey Cohen, but he persevered. John Roselli was "Handsome Johnny" (biography titled as such) who became the mob's "ambassador to Hollywood" for years. I'm oversimplifying some pretty tangled history here, but it's interesting to see this article.
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