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LRTfan Jun 27, 2017 5:57 PM

new homes/condos GTA edition has Television City on the cover this week:

https://issuu.com/wall2wall/docs/tcg_1317

More amenities unveiled including family-friendly 3-bedroom units, a kids playground, and a dog park. Also, more mention of ground floor retail. This is a game-changer for Hamilton.

Zmonkey Jun 27, 2017 8:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LRTfan (Post 7847221)
I know several young people in Hamilton who have left to buy one of these exact units in Toronto. And others who rent here because there is no decent condos available, but have purchased these price point units in TO and rent them out. Try finding anything livable in Hamilton anymore in the 200,000's. Let alone something brand new with great amenities and in a great location. There will be high priced units here for sure. It's fantastic that for the first time in my lifetime developers see a market for average or higher priced housing in downtown Hamilton. We need dozens more buildings like this throughout the downtown.

I know many people paying $1,500 a month to rent downtown in a 'clean' building from the 70's or 80's. They are excited about the prospects of possibly buying a condo and using that same monthly payment as a mortgage, instead of throwing it away in rent every month.

The same price point can obtain you a small unit in the City Square development on Charlton. I know some people who looked, but passed on it due to the bland design, low ceilings, lack of amenities and suburban style finishes. If the city can stop acting like a small town and encourage a legit builder like Brad Lamb to pull this off it should raise the bar and start offering much more bang for the buck at these entry level price points.

I am someone who owned in a new, nice condo before getting married in Hamilton, but remember the numbers I gave would be for a studio on a low floor. That is rock bottom entry level pricing.

Say you have a 650 square foot place with parking. You are $325,000 plus $25,000 for Parking for a 1 bedroom.

Monthly that would cost, $1400 in a mortgage.
Maintenance fee's would be $422 (.65 cents a square foot)
Taxes around $200/month.

a 1 bedroom would carry for $2,022/month. That is not cheap, for a lot of young people who may live in a condo for a handful of years they may be better of renting since that $1500 carries about $650 in expense you can't get back and no transaction costs.

This building will sell, but I really do think it will sell to investors in the GTA who find it cheap vs locals primary. Rents are increasing in Hamilton, but even in my old building you can rent a 5 year old condo for $1400/month with parking. Won't have same amenities or finishes, but for a lot of people especially in there 20's going cheap will be a priority.

And these 3 bedroom units, if bought by an investor, like Toronto will just end up being rented out to young professionals or students - since they pay by the room vs whole place.

Chronamut Jun 27, 2017 8:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LRTfan (Post 7847359)
new homes/condos GTA edition has Television City on the cover this week:

https://issuu.com/wall2wall/docs/tcg_1317

More amenities unveiled including family-friendly 3-bedroom units, a kids playground, and a dog park. Also, more mention of ground floor retail. This is a game-changer for Hamilton.

Pretty cool! I do worry though that we might become like toronto where residential communities become like silos, where nobody leaves their little hive, and thus you have a bunch of people living in the city that you never even know exist...

timach Jun 27, 2017 11:52 PM

My new condo that I just bought is going to cost about 1750-1900, a month for rent/property tax/mortgage ...

If you're going to live in it, nothing wrong paying that price. Your building equity.

LRTfan Jun 28, 2017 1:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chronamut (Post 7847563)
Pretty cool! I do worry though that we might become like toronto where residential communities become like silos, where nobody leaves their little hive, and thus you have a bunch of people living in the city that you never even know exist...

I think that's true in every city to a degree. There's like 550,000 people in Hamilton. I barely know any.
But in my local hood I know people who live in single homes, rental homes, low rise rental and high rise condos.
Brad Lambs location at TV city is perfect for people mingling at Durand Coffee, Locke St, Hess, James St etc..... Hamilton is light years away from becoming a mega-city like TO. Our downtown core is so small we can develop a tight-knit vibe there even with lots of new towers added to the mix.

DDP Jun 28, 2017 2:03 PM

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Originally Posted by timach (Post 7847779)
My new condo that I just bought is going to cost about 1750-1900, a month for rent/property tax/mortgage ...

If you're going to live in it, nothing wrong paying that price. Your building equity.

It really does depend. If you are going to live somewhere for thelse short term (under 3/4 years) in normal markets you are better off renting. This market is not really typical and that could make it different.

Say that person is right and these condos cost 500 a square foot, your closing costs would be about 10,000 for occupancy (remember this if you ever buy an new construction condo) , 3000 for closing, 4000 land transfer.

Selling day at 550 a square foot 330,000. 30k in gain. Realtor fees will be about 10-15k, lawyer will be about 2k.

Total transaction costs are 30k. Really it's a wash. You need to own for the long haul or have a hot market for it to make sense to buy a condo over Lon haul. Most cities in this country you have lost money on condos in past 5 years (all costs in), it's just Vancouver and GTA that are making money.

timach Jun 29, 2017 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DDP (Post 7848307)
It really does depend. If you are going to live somewhere for thelse short term (under 3/4 years) in normal markets you are better off renting. This market is not really typical and that could make it different.

Say that person is right and these condos cost 500 a square foot, your closing costs would be about 10,000 for occupancy (remember this if you ever buy an new construction condo) , 3000 for closing, 4000 land transfer.

Selling day at 550 a square foot 330,000. 30k in gain. Realtor fees will be about 10-15k, lawyer will be about 2k.

Total transaction costs are 30k. Really it's a wash. You need to own for the long haul or have a hot market for it to make sense to buy a condo over Lon haul. Most cities in this country you have lost money on condos in past 5 years (all costs in), it's just Vancouver and GTA that are making money.

Houses always make more sense if you're just buying to flip. But if you get a good deal on a condo you could always rent it out forever. It's a good way to have a nice nest egg for retirement. That's my plan anyways, we will see what happens tho

LRTfan Jul 3, 2017 3:25 AM

Website is now live

www.televisioncity.ca

drpgq Jul 3, 2017 1:36 PM

I wonder where CH will end up. It would be pretty cool if they ended up on Gore Park with a live studio environment, although I'm not getting my hopes up.

king10 Jul 3, 2017 4:00 PM

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Originally Posted by drpgq (Post 7853247)
I wonder where CH will end up. It would be pretty cool if they ended up on Gore Park with a live studio environment, although I'm not getting my hopes up.

That would be pretty cool. First floor of the kresege building. Similar setup to the old citytv/muchmusic building in toronto. CTV owns it now.

realcity Jul 3, 2017 7:47 PM

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Originally Posted by king10 (Post 7853366)
That would be pretty cool. First floor of the kresege building. Similar setup to the old citytv/muchmusic building in toronto. CTV owns it now.

that would be awesome. Have a booth like CityTv had "word on the street".

Beedok Jul 3, 2017 9:09 PM

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Originally Posted by king10 (Post 7853366)
That would be pretty cool. First floor of the kresege building. Similar setup to the old citytv/muchmusic building in toronto. CTV owns it now.

Surely CH is big enough to need more than one floor? Like, one floor for studio maybe, and then another for offices?

Chronamut Jul 4, 2017 2:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Beedok (Post 7853644)
Surely CH is big enough to need more than one floor? Like, one floor for studio maybe, and then another for offices?

kreskys new condo will have 2 floors from the original facade most likely so maybe they could take up that whole space.

SteelTown Jul 7, 2017 1:45 PM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DEE-YYxXsAIqJ95.jpg:large
https://twitter.com/BradJLamb

LRTfan Jul 7, 2017 1:53 PM

First project of it's kind in Hamilton. Looking fantastic.

lachlanholmes Jul 7, 2017 3:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SteelTown (Post 7857705)

Being optimistic of course but those glazed glass balconies are gorgeous. Hope they make it to fruition. Hope the whole project makes it to fruition. Fingers crossed the DNA doesn't fight too hard.

LRTfan Jul 7, 2017 6:49 PM

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Originally Posted by scootaround (Post 7857831)
Being optimistic of course but those glazed glass balconies are gorgeous. Hope they make it to fruition. Hope the whole project makes it to fruition. Fingers crossed the DNA doesn't fight too hard.


Oh the DNA will fight it hard. That's all they do....work hard to preserve the Soviet-era Commie-block vibe in their hood, and keep housing options in Hamilton to a minimum.

Our bigger source of hope needs to be with the planners and experts at city hall. They see the big picture, and should care about adding investment and housing units in Hamilton regardless of what some NIMBY's think.

King&James Jul 7, 2017 9:23 PM

http://i.imgur.com/m0rZh0Z.jpg

Love the render and the artistic license. Maybe that is a Darko V Phase 6 building in background

lachlanholmes Jul 10, 2017 1:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LRTfan (Post 7858111)
Oh the DNA will fight it hard. That's all they do....work hard to preserve the Soviet-era Commie-block vibe in their hood, and keep housing options in Hamilton to a minimum.

Our bigger source of hope needs to be with the planners and experts at city hall. They see the big picture, and should care about adding investment and housing units in Hamilton regardless of what some NIMBY's think.

https://image.prntscr.com/image/KCI_...sg5pfJPGwA.png

~sigh~ looks like the nimby's are in full force today.

drpgq Jul 10, 2017 4:03 PM

It is pretty close to the Durand border. I'm guessing if it was in Central, there would be no complaints. Or at least a lot fewer.


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