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eburress Jan 28, 2021 3:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Dariusb (Post 9172506)
Ok cool. Do you think Austin will eventually pass Dallas in overall number of high-rises or is that too early to call/a flat out no?
Dallas is also growing and still building towers, so unless something unexpected happens I would lean towards a flat out no. :)

clubtokyo Jan 28, 2021 4:52 AM
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Originally Posted by eburress (Post 9172813)
Dallas is also growing and still building towers, so unless something unexpected happens I would lean towards a flat out no. :)
But not superTALLS. Austin is definitely competition for Dallas & Houston
as technology continues to explode even more of a threat. Old oil is dead.

ILUVSAT Jan 28, 2021 4:53 AM
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Originally Posted by eburress (Post 9172813)
Dallas is also growing and still building towers, so unless something unexpected happens I would lean towards a flat out no. :)
I think Kevin can pull the actual numbers up...But, Austin has far more 400'+ towers proposed, approved or U/C than does Dallas. The gap IS closing - fast. And, I don't believe it's too big of a gap right now.

drummer Jan 28, 2021 2:22 PM
Let's not turn this into a city vs city thread, y'all.

Dallas/Fort Worth is booming at ridiculous amounts across the whole metroplex.

Austin is booming at ridiculous amounts as well.

Houston is also, I believe.

San Antonio, too.

Yay, Texas! Let's leave it there. :)

The Best Forumer Jan 28, 2021 8:41 PM
It almost seems like Houston is slowing down a little... but then again I've not been out in a while...

However, all of these new towers are good for Austin. Keep up the good work!

Dale Jan 28, 2021 9:06 PM
Seems like the whole world is moving to Texas (and Florida). That can hardly be a bad thing for skyscrapers!

Urbannizer Jan 28, 2021 9:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT (Post 9172664)
Tower 5C has changed...it's now a 50-story office/residential tower.
https://www.stonelake.com/images/new...in%20Texas.pdf

Quote:
An affiliate of Stonelake Capital Partners (“Stonelake”) announced that it has acquired the 0.5-acre site located at the southeast corner of W. 5th Street and Colorado Street in Downtown, where it plans to develop a 50-story tower totaling approximately 465,000 rentable square feet of residences and Class-AA office space. The working name for the development is “5th & Colorado” with full branding and identity to be announced at a later date. The purchase of the land closed in September 2020 for an undisclosed price.

Initial plans for 5th & Colorado call for 318 residences above 100,000-sf of office space. Typical residential floor plans will average 1,150-sf and office floor plates will total 20,000-sf around a central core. 5th & Colorado will feature four (4) residential and office amenity levels including two (2) sky lounges on levels 49 and 50. Separate ground floor lobby entrances and elevator banks will provide distinction for each the office and residences while activating both sides of 5th Street and Colorado with a lively streetscape.

Stonelake has engaged Ziegler Cooper Architects to design 5th & Colorado and Harvey Builders as general contractor. Garza EMC is handling civil engineering. Stonelake will own 100% of 5th & Colorado without an outside equity or development par partner. Construction commencement is tentatively set for Q1 2022 with completion expected early 2025.
https://i.imgur.com/yOIZKt0.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/H4qQTA1.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/WLH13Lx.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/7e0Sm7p.jpg

Dariusb Jan 28, 2021 10:16 PM
Don't know if this has been posted but here's another tower:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sta...amp/4261370001

The ATX Jan 29, 2021 12:02 AM
I updated the list of Austin's tallest projects:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...05&postcount=6

The list has 80 projects over 150'. It doesn't include some projects where we are waiting for height or floor counts. 307 E. 2nd is an example of a big project that we are awaiting height info.

Here are the first 25 on the list. The green highlight means they are U/C.

https://i.imgur.com/TbOegCE.png

ILUVSAT Jan 29, 2021 4:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Dariusb (Post 9173614)
Don't know if this has been posted but here's another tower:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.sta...amp/4261370001
Please read the story...

This is a new proposal for The Travis-Tower II site. It's now known (at least temporarily) as 80 Red River. There is an entire thread regarding this tower and Travis-Tower I.

And, no...it will be the second tallest in town (as the clowns at the Statesman proclaim). If built (and completed as designed), 98 Red River, 6XGuad and 4th & Brazos will be taller.

Dariusb Jan 29, 2021 5:38 AM
Ok ILUVSAT. Thanks for the updates ATX.

Urbannizer Jan 29, 2021 6:44 PM
6X Guad

https://i.imgur.com/GbC4puJh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vZmc6MDh.jpg

The Thompson

https://i.imgur.com/uoN3Tjnh.jpg

Alexan Waterloo

https://i.imgur.com/Bdu3mzdh.jpg

Waterloo

https://i.imgur.com/F3kDcaFh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/JPzRdIbh.jpg

IluvATX Jan 30, 2021 12:44 AM
Does anyone have a guess of the tower crane activity downtown?

KevinFromTexas Jan 30, 2021 3:22 AM
I counted 35 last week, but that was inside and outside of downtown. I was up on the UT garage on MLK and could see cranes at the Domain and way into East Austin, and South Austin. Yesterday, I noticed another one, so 36 is my count, but there were at least 10 or more that I couldn't see at the Tesla site in East Austin. My guess is there's probably about 70 or so cranes in Austin.

IluvATX Jan 30, 2021 3:26 AM
That’s crazy, considering the high rise apartments here

Dale Jan 30, 2021 2:12 PM
Questions: with lots of downtowns still boarded up shells, what’s it like on the ground in Austin.

clubtokyo Jan 30, 2021 5:28 PM
I was downtown yesterday and it was pretty lively, lots of people out and about.

GoldenBoot Jan 30, 2021 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Dale (Post 9175102)
Questions: with lots of downtowns still boarded up shells, what’s it like on the ground in Austin.
The only area that I have seen downtown with a decent amount of boarded-up first levels are several bars along Dirty Sixth Street.

As previously mentioned, the rest of downtown is quite normal - albeit with less vehicular traffic. However, that is starting to come back.

I will note that I-35 and MoPac (through downtown) are both approaching pre-COVID traffic levels during rush hour.

Dale Jan 31, 2021 3:08 PM
Thanks guys!

ATXboom Jan 31, 2021 5:48 PM
Hit several parks downtown yesterday. People everywhere. Really crowded. Not surprising given the weather.

KevinFromTexas Jan 31, 2021 7:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ATXboom (Post 9175923)
Hit several parks downtown yesterday. People everywhere. Really crowded. Not surprising given the weather.
Yeah, I did, too. I went up to Saint Ed's first for that view, then rode the boardwalk over to the Longhorn Dam. The boardwalk and trail were packed with people riding bikes, jogging with the kids and dogs. I put my mask on for the ride because there were so many. And up and down South Congress there were people all over the place. They had those venders set up, too, and the restaurants were buzzing. It was a beautiful day yesterday. It almost felt normal.

JMTlikemenslegs Jan 31, 2021 9:44 PM
How many cranes does Austin have up right now?

clubtokyo Feb 1, 2021 8:01 PM
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Originally Posted by JMTlikemenslegs (Post 9176083)
How many cranes does Austin have up right now?
A lot lol, I don’t know the official number though.

The Best Forumer Feb 2, 2021 2:59 PM
Either way.. it is a lot.

IluvATX Mar 3, 2021 11:58 PM
Cross posting from the Austin sub forum:
Quote:
Originally Posted by kingkirbythe.... (Post 9206640)
Texas’ Tallest Tower Could Break Ground on Waller Creek in 2022

https://austin.towers.net/texas-tall...creek-in-2022/

If you’ve ventured outside much lately in downtown Austin, you might have noticed some new decor installed on the fences around the corner of East Cesar Chavez and Red River Streets at the de facto entrance to the Rainey Street District — banners featuring

GoldenBoot Mar 4, 2021 10:34 PM
COVID-19 Airline Recovery Update:

Delta Air Lines has dropped all Focus City airports except for Austin (AUS) and Raleigh-Durham (RDU). This bodes well for these airports.

clubtokyo Mar 5, 2021 4:17 AM
Yay for Austin Airport!

bilbao58 Mar 5, 2021 5:14 AM
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Originally Posted by IluvATX (Post 9206664)
Cross posting from the Austin sub forum:
As I said elsewhere, it’s time for Wells Fargo Plaza in Houston to add the decorative top the developers nixed 40 years ago. We can’t let Austin take on the tallest in Texas mantle. :grrr: Edited to add: This is meant as a joke.

http://www.keatingarchitecture.com/projects/details/60

The Best Forumer Mar 5, 2021 7:10 PM
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Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 9208061)
As I said elsewhere, it’s time for Wells Fargo Plaza in Houston to add the decorative top the developers nixed 40 years ago. We can’t let Austin take on the tallest in Texas mantle. :grrr:

http://www.keatingarchitecture.com/projects/details/60
Interesting... why was this not implemented?

bilbao58 Mar 5, 2021 8:25 PM
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Originally Posted by The Best Forumer (Post 9208616)
Interesting... why was this not implemented?
No idea.

IluvATX Mar 5, 2021 9:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 9208061)
As I said elsewhere, it’s time for Wells Fargo Plaza in Houston to add the decorative top the developers nixed 40 years ago. We can’t let Austin take on the tallest in Texas mantle. :grrr:

http://www.keatingarchitecture.com/projects/details/60
That’s never going to happen. Austin deserves the tallest.

bilbao58 Mar 5, 2021 9:59 PM
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Originally Posted by IluvATX (Post 9208821)
Austin deserves the tallest.
Ummmmm...why, pray tell?

ILUVSAT Mar 5, 2021 10:14 PM
^^^No city "deserves" anything.

Please, if you want to continue this high-school level skirmish, please PM each other. Let's get back on track.

bilbao58 Mar 5, 2021 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT (Post 9208883)
^^^No city "deserves" anything.

Please, if you want to continue this high-school level skirmish, please PM each other. Let's get back on track.
I didn’t realize I was part of a skirmish, high school-level or other wise. I simply found the “Austin deserves...” comment to be odd.

IluvATX Mar 5, 2021 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 9208895)
I didn’t realize I was part of a skirmish, high school-level or other wise. I simply found the “Austin deserves...” comment to be odd.
I just meant because Austin has gone from sleepy college town to potentially having the tallest in Texas is a huge move forward. Maybe deserve wasn’t the right word, but it certainly has the potential to compete with larger cities with larger skylines. Also didn’t realize it was a “skirmish”.

IluvATX Mar 5, 2021 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT (Post 9208883)
^^^No city "deserves" anything.

Please, if you want to continue this high-school level skirmish, please PM each other. Let's get back on track.
back on track? At least this thread is getting some attention now. It has been dead for weeks. :shrug:

bilbao58 Mar 5, 2021 10:54 PM
I guess I should make it clear that my original post about not letting Austin have the tallest building was somewhat facetious. But not totally facetious. In all honestly, I’d prefer to see Houston defend its title. At the same time, I lived in Austin for a short time in the late seventies and it’s fascinating to see the changes. As long as it doesn’t get too uppity. ;)

clubtokyo Mar 5, 2021 11:11 PM
Just glad to see this thread active again. :)

ILUVSAT Mar 6, 2021 6:41 PM
No worries. My apologies. There is a lot of city-v-city malcontent going on and I misunderstood your intent having only typed words to go by. I now see that it was benign.

Again, my apologies.

With regard to Wells Fargo Tower - if said project were to ever get off the ground, don't you think it may be difficult to find windows to match the current curtain wall of the tower?

bilbao58 Mar 6, 2021 9:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ILUVSAT (Post 9209503)
With regard to Wells Fargo Tower - if said project were to ever get off the ground, don't you think it may be difficult to find windows to match the current curtain wall of the tower?
I'm thinking something other than windows, like a metal mesh, would be better. Something that wouldn't shatter in a hurricane. As for matching the existing windows, they haven't had any issues that I know of replacing windows in the past.

IluvATX Mar 6, 2021 9:55 PM
This one should break ground very soon.

Hanover Brazos Street 513’
https://www.statesman.com/storyimage...W=960&maxH=960

clubtokyo Mar 7, 2021 2:40 AM
I like this one! It’s clean looking.

The ATX Mar 7, 2021 7:12 AM
The fact that Austin is even part of a city vs. city dialogue with Houston about who might have the tallest building in Texas says a lot. :)

bilbao58 Mar 7, 2021 4:31 PM
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clubtokyo Mar 7, 2021 4:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 9210042)
Yeah, but it also says a lot that Austin's tallest buildings are all residential or mixed use. Not enough commerce going on to fill even one true skyscraper.
So the new Google tower going up or the indeed tower finishing is not a true office skyscraper??

bilbao58 Mar 7, 2021 5:26 PM
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clubtokyo Mar 7, 2021 7:50 PM
Block 71, 542ft. You were saying Austin has no “commerce” towers and that we only have residential and mixed use. Yeah the new tallest will not be all office, but we for sure have plenty of new office towers and we are a tiny little brother to Houston. Austin is doing great for its size. So what exactly are we trying to compare here??

IluvATX Mar 7, 2021 8:47 PM
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Originally Posted by clubtokyo (Post 9210163)
Block 71, 542ft. You were saying Austin has no “commerce” towers and that we only have residential and mixed use. Yeah the new tallest will not be all office, but we for sure have plenty of new office towers and we are a tiny little brother to Houston. Austin is doing great for its size. So what exactly are we trying to compare here??
Not to mention that when Houston’s tallest “commerce towers” were built was nearly 40 years ago. Before mixed use was even a thing.

bilbao58 Mar 7, 2021 9:26 PM
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IluvATX Mar 7, 2021 9:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bilbao58 (Post 9210217)
And Houston's newest "commerce tower" currently under construction is still going to be taller than any currently existing building in Austin. It's the 3rd 700+ foot office building built by Hines Interests alone in downtown in the past 10 years.
Pointing out that Houston's tallest buildings were built before mixed use was a thing actually just reinforces my point that Austin can't fill a supertall with offices only, by the way.

You guys need to chill out. Austin's growth and changes are phenomenal. I hated the place back in 70s. I think it's very impressive now.
Houston has a very impressive skyline. I just don’t see why being all commercial is an issue at all.


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