no difference at street level between a 14 and 40. Except economy of scale and density for retail and new residents.

not sure if this means anything, but TV City has been removed from Brad Lamb's website

http://lambdevcorp.com/index.php

EDIT: removed from his development website...but still up on his personal website:

http://www.bradjlamb.com/developments/

^^^ that's a bit odd. Anyone know the date of the OMB hearing.... And where did that render of twin 30s originate?

$360 million dollar investment in downtown Hamilton and they want to downsize it by more than half.

it's the Hamilton way. Then we can complain that Trawna gets everything.
Yea, Toronto gets all the investment because it's open for business and wants the investment.

The 30 storey render is from here: https://connectassetmanagement.com/c...n-city-condos/

Kind of a questionable site but the file names for the renders have the name Norm Li in them, so they're legit. My guess is these probably weren't supposed to be posted on any website? Here is a link to Norm Li's website:

https://www.normli.ca/

Lamb kind of suggested that they would potentially pack up the development until the OMB hearing is done in about 2 years and begin sales again after a settlement is reached in his Cable 14 interview. I don't know if that's the reason it's not on the site, but I doubt it is any indication that the development is in any way dead.

Not Television City related but Brad Lamb related. The car wash at Main and New is currently being demolished.

That would be a great place to get something other than a low density car wash, and an abandoned one at that.

It is right in the entrance to the city from the highway, which is such a sad entrance.

Lamb owns that lot and has proposed a 20 storey building for that location, will be interesting to see how much land is there once all the buildings come out.

Plenty of stuff to tear down on that section, eventually it'll link up to Locke and maybe Dundurn to give a nice pedestrian loop provided main goes two way someday.

We have a date for the first OMB hearing on this project.... rooting hard for Mr Lamb on this one

https://www.omb.gov.on.ca/ecs/CaseDe...spx?n=PL180255

Please consider taking time to come to the pre-hearing and make a case for why this should be built. I'm planning on doing so.

What issue is this project actually going to OMB for? I thought Lamb relented and decided to go with 2 30-story towers, or is he still fighting for 40? Or is this coming from the neighbourhood instead of the City?

As far as I know it's on non-decision for the 40+30 proposal.

correct...city was taken to OMB for non-decision on 40+30.
I'm hopeful he'll stick to that instead of trying to appease the city with shorter proposals, but ultimately he knows his numbers and bottom line.

This isn't necessarily an update, but it offers some insight to the next OMB session.

Brad Lamb’s appeal against the City – the OMB will have to determine if they’ll treat it as a non-decision or a Council denial as Lamb filed after Councillors received the staff report but before they formally voted to deny – against the escarpment height limit and other planning policies will have its pre-hearing on October 26th, 10am, at the Old Courthouse downtown at 50 Main Street East.
The case number is PL180255, the case manager’s contact is on the LPAT website.
This hearing will be under old OMB rules as the appeal was filed prior to December 12, 2018.

Just 30 more sleeps! Hope the 30 & 40 plan still shows up

Will anyone be attending the pre-hearing? I have never been to one but want to check this one out.

I will be. This project is one of the, if not the, most important to Hamilton's development.

I definitely want to attend this as well!

Remember that omb hearings, while open to the public, are not public meetings. They are court hearings. If you attend you will not be allowed to give input, only watch the proceedings.

You can become a participant by attending the pre-hearing.

I was hoping they would stay downtown or be visible to the 403 at MIP.

Here's also this piece....

In addition to a new location and enhanced studio space at Innovation Drive, the development plan also includes the creation of a local news bureau to be located in the heart of downtown Hamilton, placing CHCH-TV reporters in close proximity to City Hall, Municipal Courthouses, the FirstOntario Centre, and other areas of interest.




It'll probably be something like CBC Hamilton, a small storefront.

my sources have suggested this will be located in the ground floor of the new twin condos at King/Hughson…. not sure I like it for prime downtown retail storefront. I haven't watched CH in 10+ years, but I guess others do and will enjoy an urban presence for them.

so I've heard a couple of interviews with Brad and he (like most builders) states that all future developments in Hamilton will be put on hold if we bail from LRT, but he says TV City is being built regardless of what happens at the OMB. Says he's sold over 65% of the total units and will proceed once he knows how high he can go.
I'm hoping there is no compromise and he goes through the OMB hearing. This is our last chance for a new landmark before we settle into a 21st Century commie-block skyline building era.

I think the compromise is 2x30 with a brick podium but we'll see.

I don't mind the podium, but really want the 40 storeys.

Looking at his current plans, it shows the short tower being 32. at 32 storeys it's 100 metres. That gives a total elevation of 210 metres…the escarpment is 193.
30 storeys would be 91 metres…that gives a total of 201… so this thing could still end up anywhere between 8-17 metres higher than the escarpment.

But the 40 would be a new landmark…which we really need.

Remember mechanical floors aren't counted when determining the number of stories.

Yea, I think I included the mechanical top with the 32 floor height given above now that you say that, but not the 30-floor count. I suppose I'd be happy if he settled with two 32-storey builds. But really, what are we doing here? Willing to delay investment and waste money in court to trim 8-10 floors off a high-rise? So Hamilton.

I think the city might be willing to let them get away with some height if Lamb and aA can achieve 25m between the towers. They're currently 24m apart so I don't think it's that big of an adjustment.

I doubt it will ever get approved for 40 storeys. Obviously, he's in the process of appealing, but that isn't an overnight process and if and when it does get approved for 40 storey's or close to that, it will be at least a year if not long before any official approval.

I hope that this does eventually see some sort of light of day, whether it's 40 storey's or less. More building is in the best interests of our city.

OMB Prehearing tomorrow. Anyone else going? I'll be requesting participant status.

Will be looking to your twitter feed on a blow by blow account

I'm unable to...thx for doing this tho! Keep us posted.

I'll have a report back at the end of the pre-hearing. The pre-hearing sets the procedure, dates, participants, and the issues list, so the meat of the issues won't be dealt with until the hearing.

Joey Coleman will likely have live tweets, btw.

Based on the Sonoma Homes report, I expect we may see a settlement between Lamb and the City unless he doesn't mind waiting until 2020

I'll update later, but here's the gist:

-I am the only supporter in attendance,
-DNA strongly represented with a lot of members in attendance.
-City says too tall, too dense, too many shadows, pedestrian environment poor, etc.
-Local NIMBYs concerned about traffic and parking,
-Hearing in March.

^^^ wow March , moves so slow.

This project needs to happen, at proposed height. Landmark Place should not exist as the tallest tower in town - it's a disgrace - it's a big concrete crap-chute. Sorry! TV City and others with better architectural presence should dominate the skyline. This whole BS with the limit on height to match the escarpment height is absolute insanity. Hamilton is a changing city for the better - it's time the idiots in charge of the city wake up.

Hear, bloody hear. OMB hearing coming up in a couple months... I became a participant, and I'll be speaking in heavy favour of it. Hopefully the OMB recognizes the silliness of these NIMBY height rules and allows it to go ahead at height or near it.

Yeah it is nuts. Look at all the supply Television City would have produced if the city had approved it. I worry that the next recession is going to come soon and all these projects will end up kiboshed and it will be early 90s all over again.

It's March, do we have a date for the hearing yet?

5 days beginning March 25th.

I'm working on my participant statement.

Friday was the final day for parties to submit evidence so I need to review the evidence (which was emailed to me). I am not sure if I'm able to share the files so I won't at this time.

Where can we submit statements, and where do we view evidence of other information?' Could you send us/me your statements so I don't repeat/contradict your statement? I'd like to start making statements as much as possible.

To give a statement at the OMB hearing you have to be a registered participant. I registered at the Prehearing on October 26th. I don't know if you can still become a participant, but I will send you a private message with contact info to the Case Coordinator who can give you info regarding whether or not you are still able to become a participant.

I wouldn't be able to attend as I work, but if I can submit statements I will.

https://twitter.com/JoeyColeman/stat...73400232681473

I have a big update on Television City coming up tomorrow at noon. I will link it once finished.

I hope they haven't shrunk it down too much. The city needs the supply.