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Barney Greengrass May 19, 2018 4:31 AM

^ Really amazing that you can plainly see the cantilevered ob deck at 30 Hudson from the roof of the Met. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, but I am nonetheless.

jbermingham123 May 19, 2018 6:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sloper (Post 8193251)
^ Really amazing that you can plainly see the cantilevered ob deck at 30 Hudson from the roof of the Met. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, but I am nonetheless.

It is truly like something out of a sci-fi movie

Jerseyviews May 19, 2018 5:40 PM

[QUOTE=NYguy;8193241]I can't wait for it to come off so we can finally see what the facade looks like.


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From a few of these angles, it looks like it may have cleared One57 and the 1,000 ft mark. I haven't been in the city in a few weeks to take a good look. Climbing fast now.

TechTalkGuy May 20, 2018 2:42 AM

:previous: Definately surpassed 300m at this stage, no doubt. :tup:

TK2001 May 20, 2018 8:35 PM

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Prezrezc May 20, 2018 9:11 PM

2 questions:

1. Where did you get that render from?

2. Is the glass on the parapet and upper floors transparent?

TK2001 May 20, 2018 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prezrezc (Post 8194278)
2 questions:

1. Where did you get that render from?

2. Is the glass on the parapet and upper floors transparent?

1. I edited the current 220 CPS design in the original render
2. Looks like it, will probably be held up by a steel structure

TechTalkGuy May 21, 2018 12:48 AM

:previous: Good job! ;)

Prezrezc May 21, 2018 1:08 AM

For me, what is precisely the joy I derive from watching this rise is starting to change from the sheer height of it---although that's still a big aspect---is the facade.

It now looks as if we have three distinct skins on this, including the quite ethereal crown, which to me looks like a symmetric, geometrized realization of the undulating base.

NYguy May 21, 2018 4:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerseyviews (Post 8193558)
From a few of these angles, it looks like it may have cleared One57 and the 1,000 ft mark. I haven't been in the city in a few weeks to take a good look. Climbing fast now.



Ignore the head, and you can see it here...


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Guillaume BERTHON - AéroSpot66

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TechTalkGuy May 21, 2018 6:10 PM

:previous: I recall when One57 dominated the Central Park skyline.

NYguy May 21, 2018 11:03 PM

^ Old times.



Another one from Iain Henderson


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NYguy May 22, 2018 2:56 AM

Safe to say that the Park is alive, well, and as sunny as ever...only with a better view.



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ripk10 May 22, 2018 12:13 PM

Taken by me last Sunday
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TechTalkGuy May 22, 2018 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 8195448)
Safe to say that the Park is alive, well, and as sunny as ever...only with a better view.

Where’s the shadow?

franktko May 22, 2018 5:16 PM

I'm not sure which I find more silly: complaining about tower's shadows in Manhattan or denying they actually exists? :shrug:

TechTalkGuy May 22, 2018 6:27 PM

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Originally Posted by franktko (Post 8195932)
I'm not sure which I find more silly: complaining about tower's shadows in Manhattan or denying they actually exists? :shrug:

The shadow rule prevents skyscrapers from being built unless the developers decrease the height significantly.

It’s that nonsense that needs photographic evidence to help protect developers from frivolous roadblocks!! :hell:

Zerton May 22, 2018 8:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 8190360)
I'm just going to assume the structural engineers with 6+ years of training know what they are doing.

Not saying it doesn't work structurally... You can make a lot of crazy looking things work structurally.

NYguy May 23, 2018 12:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by franktko (Post 8195932)
I'm not sure which I find more silly: complaining about tower's shadows in Manhattan or denying they actually exists? :shrug:

Who denies shadows exists? Everyone in the real world knows that they do. But in regards to Central Park, and the fears of skyscraper shadows, NO, the park has not been cast into perpetual darkness
as many feared (or hoped) the skyscrapers being built around it would. It's the same Central Park everyone knows and loves, at least for those who like the park anyway.




MAY 22, 2018

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TechTalkGuy May 23, 2018 1:09 AM

:previous: You got that right, NYguy! ;)
The blue glass is really setting this tower apart from the rest!
As for the shadows, once again NYguy has clearly proven it as a myth!!

NYguy May 23, 2018 3:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechTalkGuy (Post 8196431)
The blue glass is really setting this tower apart from the rest!


What you're seeing now is just a covering, not the actual glass, which will look like this...


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MAY 22, 2018


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TechTalkGuy May 23, 2018 6:17 AM

:previous: It looks like a mirror. :photographer:

NYguy May 24, 2018 2:19 AM

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TechTalkGuy May 24, 2018 2:39 AM

:goodpost: Classic Gotham, NYguy. ;)

Joequeens May 24, 2018 10:13 PM

:cheers:
Quote:

Originally Posted by TechTalkGuy (Post 8197761)
:goodpost: Classic Gotham, NYguy. ;)

Gorgeous.

NYguy May 25, 2018 5:12 AM

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Danny Daly

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aquablue May 25, 2018 9:57 AM

I wonder why the designed this in a boxy shape? You would think they could have done anything with the top, but they left it flat. Strange.

Zerton May 25, 2018 5:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 8199247)
I wonder why the designed this in a boxy shape? You would think they could have done anything with the top, but they left it flat. Strange.

$$$.

The original design was a very graceful building that elegantly curved to a pointed top with the cantilever integrated seamlessly. Then that got value engineered to basically the design we have today but with a spire. Then the spire got value engineered out and we're left with this boxy thing. A quality box, but still a box.

NYguy May 26, 2018 3:48 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/BjFLLhkA...ken-by=cusenyc

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TechTalkGuy May 26, 2018 10:06 PM

:previous: I know the blue film is temporary, but I really like it. :tup:

Prezrezc May 26, 2018 11:06 PM

^^
It looks like the bottom of a swimming pool.

pianowizard May 27, 2018 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TechTalkGuy (Post 8195594)
Where’s the shadow?

Most of these photos were taken during the middle of the day. When the sun is rising or setting, the shadows may extend far enough to reach Central Park.

NYguy May 27, 2018 1:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pianowizard (Post 8201138)
Most of these photos were taken during the middle of the day. When the sun is rising or setting, the shadows may extend far enough to reach Central Park.

Which, obviously, is the time of the day when the park will be getting naturally darker, and not the time of day most people will use the park. It's a foolish argument anyway, because even in the wintertime when it's overcast and covered in snow, people still enjoy tbe park.

The shadow argument was just a scare tactic too often used by tge NIMBYs when they have no real argument against anything.

Jerseyviews May 27, 2018 2:36 PM

Cleared One57, crazy to think this still has 500 ft to go!

MrMayman May 27, 2018 3:25 PM

A stop work order was issued yesterday after this took place:

Quote:

Security guard dead, another injured after glass falls in construction site

NEW YORK — A security worker has died following a construction accident in Manhattan.

The incident happened around 217 W. 57th Street between Seventh Avenue and Broadway when authorities responded to reports about an injured male at a construction site.

When they arrived, officers found Harry Ramnauth, 67, of the Bronx, unconscious and unresponsive with severe body trauma and a construction worker, 27, with non-life-threatening injuries, police said.

Ramnauth was taken to the hospital where he was pronounced dead.

Investigation revealed a large glass panel that fell off the building and injured the victims as construction workers were in the process of moving it, police said.
http://pix11.com/2018/05/26/2-injure...truction-site/

NYguy May 27, 2018 6:35 PM

^ That's always terrible. Sorry for the family.





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Nghi Huynh

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TechTalkGuy May 27, 2018 10:16 PM

:previous: Unfortunately, big risks = bigger rewards.
The construction of the iconic Empire State Building had suffered the loss of many lives.
Video Link

NYguy May 29, 2018 3:43 AM

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Michael Lee

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jayden May 29, 2018 3:54 PM

Towering over it's neighbors already and still 500 ft to go? :haha:

ripk10 May 29, 2018 5:05 PM

NYC issues stop work order after security guard crushed to death at Midtown construction site
Sunday, May 27, 2018 11:12AM - MIDTOWN, Manhattan --
New York City has issued a stop work order at the construction site of one of Manhattan's tallest skyscrapers after a large glass panel fell, killing a security guard and injuring a construction worker.

The city's Department of Buildings said work was banned and a violation issued for failing to safeguard the site after the 10:30 a.m. emergency Saturday at the West 57th Street site, a half block from Carnegie Hall.

Police say 67-year-old security guard Harry Ramnauth was killed, and a 27-year-old construction worker was hospitalized with non-life-threatening injuries. Inspectors say an 8-foot-by-14-foot glass panel tipped over as it was being moved.

The building developer's office didn't immediately comment.

A 1,550-foot (472-meter) tower is planned at 217 W. 57th St. For comparison, One World Trade Center is 1,776 feet (541 meters).

Prezrezc May 29, 2018 10:14 PM

Accidents in places like these happen all the time.

And I'm sure a "ban" in this case doesn't mean an indefinite stop-work order, especially since this story was apparently issued two days ago and it's news to me now.

Please be sure to name the source next time you post something from an article.


Thanks.

chris08876 May 29, 2018 10:18 PM

Usually after a safety incident, a SWO is issued. There was a recent incident at 76 11th Ave in which a worker fell. He had his fall protection, thus no death, but still... enough to warrant a SWO. One Seaport had a similar safety related stoppage due to the netting not being sufficient.

TechTalkGuy May 29, 2018 10:24 PM

:previous: I wonder what their insurance rates are. :???:
Don’t forget about the dangeling crane during the construction of One57.

chris08876 May 29, 2018 10:30 PM

They'll probally settle as the lawsuits are coming. In this day in age, folks sue for anything, BUT especially for injury and for death. Almost universal.

Major developers all have teams of lawyers. There's always a risk, besides financial, in building towers. Human error most of the time is the cause, but at times, could be weather, if we recall One57's crane damage.

I'd imagine its quite high the insurance, and would be directly influenced by their safety record. Lower TRIR (Total Recordable Incident Rate), lower EMR (Experience Modification Rate) = better rates. Not to say that they have a crappy safety record, but large scale developments = higher risk. Kinda like by buying a Lambo versus a Civic.

TK2001 May 30, 2018 1:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prezrezc (Post 8203654)
Accidents in places like these happen all the time.

And I'm sure a "ban" in this case doesn't mean an indefinite stop-work order, especially since this story was apparently issued two days ago and it's news to me now.

Please be sure to name the source next time you post something from an article.


Thanks.

http://a810-bisweb.nyc.gov/bisweb/Pr...6BD08866A7430E

NYguy May 30, 2018 2:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prezrezc (Post 8203654)
Accidents in places like these happen all the time.


It's not that unusual for stop-work orders , or even partial stop-work orders to be issued to these towers while under construction, and it doesn't always take an accident to get one.
The DOB is doing it's job, and if there was a death involved on site, a stop-work order is warranted until things are secure. We wouldn't want any workers or pedestrians getting hurt.

Still, it's always temporary, work will commence if it hasn't already.



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aquablue May 30, 2018 3:33 AM

I'm interested to see the final result just because it's a tall building by ny standards, but Gary frustrates me. I can't stop feeling that he short changed ny big time with his design. That old photo of him holding that pointy tower model is very sad indeed. Well, not surprising, the guy probably hardly rates design and gets off on his excel spreadsheets, but when you are changing the skyline you should try and give a bit more. I wonder how much more profit he made with this simpler design.

NYguy May 31, 2018 2:19 AM

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Zerton May 31, 2018 7:31 PM

https://i.imgur.com/5wu5hUt.jpg

What are those things?

gramsjdg May 31, 2018 10:32 PM

Looks like the crane is still moving (unless some of the latest photos are older)


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