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koops65 Dec 30, 2019 4:51 PM

Nice... looking forward to seeing Ottawa's skyline beef-up a bit...

Denscity Dec 30, 2019 7:17 PM

Another city added awesome!

canucklehead2 Dec 30, 2019 7:36 PM

Nice to see Ottawa in transition both in terms of urban and transit planning. Last time I was there I stayed at the Delta City Centre and the views from the top floor are amazing! I can only image how they are changing these days...:tup:

koops65 Dec 31, 2019 6:15 PM

A zoom-in to 100 Queens Quay:

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[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/ciUeXJ1.png[/IMG]

koops65 Jan 2, 2020 8:13 AM

A zoom-in to Canada House:

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[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/1LBUQaF.png[/IMG]

isaidso Jan 3, 2020 4:03 AM

Not looking forward to Canada House. It promises to be another non-descript glass box in an area of downtown Toronto that's already abysmal.

koops65 Jan 4, 2020 5:44 AM

A zoom-in and flyover of Stanley Condos:

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[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/5A2wO4c.png[/IMG]

koops65 Jan 6, 2020 7:04 AM

A zoom-in and flyover of CC3:

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[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/SG0Uh41.png[/IMG]

Gresto Jan 6, 2020 9:13 PM

CC3 has the potential to be a real stunner.

koops65 Jan 8, 2020 10:12 AM

A zoom-in and flyover of 60 Mill:

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[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/ymy0tmf.png[/IMG]

koops65 Jan 10, 2020 10:32 AM

A zoom-in and flyover of Theatre District Condos:

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[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/H0udu0I.png[/IMG]

ericmacm Jan 12, 2020 4:05 AM

Here's an updated London skyline with a couple of new proposals:

https://i.imgur.com/wfiE0hWh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ucdB0vrh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Ga7nI6Lh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/bflTsaDh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/g8WfpAqh.jpg

koops65 Jan 12, 2020 10:24 AM

Well done! London is certainly growing...

koops65 Jan 12, 2020 11:17 AM

A zoom-in and flyover of Rosedale on Bloor:

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[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/dhNcnk3.png[/IMG]

ssiguy Jan 12, 2020 7:48 PM

Love those London shots.

Gresto Jan 13, 2020 12:17 AM

Nice work on your ongoing project, koops. Thanks for sharing it with us. I have lost track: what are the other same-height buildings directly surrounding Rosedale on Bloor?

koops65 Jan 13, 2020 1:32 AM

Thanks... 603 Sherbourne, 591 Sherbourne and the already completed Selby.

Gresto Jan 13, 2020 2:34 AM

^Thanks.

koops65 Jan 14, 2020 10:36 AM

A zoom-in to 19 Duncan:

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[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/Zpkld5N.png[/IMG]

koops65 Jan 16, 2020 3:58 PM

A zoom-in and flyover of One Yorkville:

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[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/4ZhlD06.png[/IMG]

M City:

[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/Hv4Rx7L.png[/IMG]

905er Jan 16, 2020 5:39 PM

the last one there of Mississauga city centre, koops is mind blowing!!:tup:

koops65 Jan 18, 2020 6:18 AM

Thanks!

A zoom-in and flyover of Liberty Central by the Lake:

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[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/95MynjC.png[/IMG]

koops65 Jan 20, 2020 10:37 AM

A zoom-in and flyover of Bauhaus:

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[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/gpnMmwh.png[/IMG]

SpongeG Jan 20, 2020 9:02 PM

Toronto on track to have more skyscrapers than Chicago, but will quality match quantity?

Toronto has the 3rd highest number of skyscrapers in North America
Talia Ricci · CBC News · Posted: Jan 17, 2020

https://i.cbc.ca/1.5429835.157921094...to-skyline.jpg
A photo taken from the CN Tower's look-out level shows Toronto's growing core. The city's chief planner says the skyline will look a lot different in a decade as Toronto embraces a period of growth. (Talia Ricci/CBC)

It's no secret that Toronto is getting taller. You can see the evidence throughout the downtown skyline and beyond. But what Torontonians might not know is that their city could soon outstrip Chicago in the number of skyscrapers over 150 metres.

According to statistics from the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, Toronto has 67 skyscrapers, 31 are under construction and 59 are proposed.

Chicago's skyline now boasts 126 skyscrapers, but the city only has 19 buildings proposed or under construction.

This means in a few years, Toronto could have 157 skyscrapers while Chicago would sit at 145, bringing Canada's largest city to second place in North America after New York's 284 skyscrapers.

John Straube, associate professor in the department of civil engineering and the school of architecture at University of Waterloo, says this is a milestone that's been on the horizon for a while.

"Part of the reason we're getting a lot of skyscrapers is because we're a younger city, we're reaching our peak," Straube said.

"Chicago did that more than 30 years ago."

https://i.cbc.ca/1.5429847.157920855...y-planning.jpg
A model of the city is displayed at Toronto's city hall. The chief planner says as Toronto becomes more of a global city, there will be an increasing level of creativity in the newer skyscrapers. (Talia Ricci/CBC )

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...cago-1.5429816

SkahHigh Jan 20, 2020 11:36 PM

Two future renders of Downtown Montreal - circa 2025

https://i.postimg.cc/q785s2nJ/100930...367afc91c9.png
https://www.century21.ca/Property/QC...quare_Phillips

https://i.postimg.cc/j53QPj8q/montre...0589f65132.jpg
by Gargantua on mtlurb

koops65 Jan 21, 2020 2:10 AM

Right on... that daytime one is awesome!

dreambrother808 Jan 21, 2020 4:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SpongeG (Post 8805769)
Toronto on track to have more skyscrapers than Chicago, but will quality match quantity?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...cago-1.5429816

There is obviously no comparison when it comes to quality. Chicago’s architectural tours are a mainstay of their tourism industry for a reason.

Jamaican-Phoenix Jan 22, 2020 12:38 AM

Those London renders look like that city will have a real skyline in the near future. :O

ericmacm Jan 22, 2020 1:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamaican-Phoenix (Post 8807131)
Those London renders look like that city will have a real skyline in the near future. :O

This decade will be a very good decade for London. Half of the proposals in the image are already under construction, and you can be assured that there will be many more coming through in the next few years.

Nouvellecosse Jan 22, 2020 2:28 AM

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Originally Posted by dreambrother808 (Post 8806167)
There is obviously no comparison when it comes to quality. Chicago’s architectural tours are a mainstay of their tourism industry for a reason.

Well in fairness there's a lot more going on Chicago than just "quality." A lot of the attraction with things like architectural tours are buildings with historical significance because of either their age, their status as landmarks in design heritage, or both. I'd argue that a city can have high quality (solid designs, materials, etc.) even without similar "significance."

koops65 Jan 22, 2020 6:02 AM

A zoom-in to Untitled Condos:

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Acajack Jan 22, 2020 1:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh (Post 8805905)

I've noticed that even with all the construction going on, Montreal is still going to end up with a fairly "table-top" skyline. Right now it has a gappy table-top, and it's heading for a more filled-in table-top.

Very similar to Ottawa, only higher and with more interesting architecture (it's true).

kool maudit Jan 22, 2020 2:31 PM

Montreal has never known it, but it needs a monster. It needs a '70s Chicago goliath to make its scale snap together.

Zeej Jan 22, 2020 3:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kool maudit (Post 8807580)
Montreal has never known it, but it needs a monster. It needs a '70s Chicago goliath to make its scale snap together.

I don't really think a supertall would compliment the skyline's built form or profile particularly well, especially since the bulk of tall construction in the city (and country even) tend to be residential towers with smaller floor plates. It would resemble a middle finger pointed towards the 401 or the National Assembly, whichever you choose.

That said, imagining the height limit were lifted for the sake of argument, I think a 230-260m tower with some heft and possibly terminating in a pinnacle or spire would fit the skyline nicely.

Acajack Jan 22, 2020 3:43 PM

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Originally Posted by kool maudit (Post 8807580)
Montreal has never known it, but it needs a monster. It needs a '70s Chicago goliath to make its scale snap together.

Place Ville-Marie was kinda like that when it was built in the 60s, but that was another era.

ericmacm Jan 22, 2020 4:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeej (Post 8807645)
I don't really think a supertall would compliment the skyline's built form or profile particularly well, especially since the bulk of tall construction in the city (and country even) tend to be residential towers with smaller floor plates. It would resemble a middle finger pointed towards the 401 or the National Assembly, whichever you choose.

That said, imagining the height limit were lifted for the sake of argument, I think a 230-260m tower with some heft and possibly terminating in a pinnacle or spire would fit the skyline nicely.

I concur. A couple of 230-260m towers with striking architectural features on the crowns would tie the skyline together quite well while keeping the general height ceiling at ~200m.

A supertall would be nice but it would be too disproportionate. There would need to be multiple 250m-ish buildings to balance the skyline out, which I don't think is what Montreal wants to go for.

Rico Rommheim Jan 22, 2020 4:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh (Post 8805905)

Sweet! Except I've just realized the 455 R-L (approx. 145m) is missing. It should have quite an impact on the skyline.

TorontoDrew Jan 22, 2020 5:20 PM

Looking good Montreal! Is Victoria Sur le Parc a little too tall and fat in that image though?

Zeej Jan 22, 2020 5:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TorontoDrew (Post 8807831)
Looking good Montreal! Is Victoria Sur le Parc a little too tall and fat in that image though?

VSP is probably a little to large in the image - given that it sits on lower ground than Le 1000 and is 10m taller than Tour de la Bourse. That said, of all the ~200m towers in the render, it's the closest to the "viewer" so it will likely appear slightly taller than the rest.

canucklehead2 Jan 22, 2020 6:10 PM

Montreal needs to ditch the Mt. Royal height limit. It does nothing to help preserve the character of the city. It just leads to a bland wall of uniformly tall towers... I agree that even just 1 or 2 signature buildings that punctuate above would help...

ssiguy Jan 22, 2020 7:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 8807676)
Place Ville-Marie was kinda like that when it was built in the 60s, but that was another era.

I agree PVM was kind of like that in the 1960s not only due to it's height but also it's size. I believe it was the largest office tower in NA outside of NY in terms of square footage when it was built.

Still, it remains Canada's most iconic office tower and I don't see that every changing.

Rico Rommheim Jan 22, 2020 8:16 PM

RE: Mtl height limit.

In about a decade from now, downtown will have about about 20 towers between 210 and 200m tall. Only then will the height limit begin to be revisited. Before this happens though, I suspect one or two suburbs might just build a couple towers over 205m tall, a la Burnaby or Mississauga.

franktko Jan 23, 2020 8:23 PM

I took the same POV using my models. You also see the impact of 455 RL. Forget the tower in the port at the right, it's wrong - the actual Tour du Grand Quai will be smaller.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...07702dc3_h.jpg

canucklehead2 Jan 23, 2020 8:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by franktko (Post 8809489)
I took the same POV using my models. You also see the impact of 455 RL. Forget the tower in the port at the right, it's wrong - the actual Tour du Grand Quai will be smaller.

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...07702dc3_h.jpg

Quick question since I noticed your icon is also my favourite Montreal skyscraper. What if anything was built on the site of its abandoned twin? I keep forgetting. I've never been to the city yet...

franktko Jan 23, 2020 9:21 PM

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Originally Posted by canucklehead2 (Post 8809528)
Quick question since I noticed your icon is also my favourite Montreal skyscraper. What if anything was built on the site of its abandoned twin? I keep forgetting. I've never been to the city yet...

A hotel which as been transformed into student housing since. There was not only talks about a twin but triplets!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...6d453ce1_h.jpg

https://mtlurb.com/uploads/monthly_2...2a5a48d9f5.jpg

https://mtlurb.com/uploads/monthly_2...b149beafb3.jpg

https://mtlurb.com/uploads/monthly_2...840580e451.jpg

MisterMillionz Jan 23, 2020 9:31 PM

Really nice to see Montreal getting some new tall buildings despite the table-top effect... These projects will make up 3/5 of the city's tallest!

isaidso Jan 24, 2020 3:47 AM

Agree although that table top looks contrived. It's not like one can see Mont Royal so the height restriction is all rather pointless. It doesn't accomplish what it's intended to do.

GreaterMontréal Jan 24, 2020 4:50 AM

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Originally Posted by isaidso (Post 8810036)
Agree although that table top looks contrived. It's not like one can see Mont Royal so the height restriction is all rather pointless. It doesn't accomplish what it's intended to do.

I think the height restriction has more to do with the fact that they don't want to have a skyline highter than Mont-Royal, that's it. The reasons behind it are pointless, we don't need to see the Mont-Royal from everywhere. The real reason is '' The height limit was chosen to preserve the predominance of Mount Royal in the urban landscape of Montreal. Mount Royal, which has become emblematic for the city, is at the heart of its territory and its personality.''

In short, they don't want the skyline to overpower Mount Royal.

koops65 Jan 24, 2020 6:27 AM

A zoom-in and flyover of 292 Dundas W:

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kool maudit Jan 24, 2020 9:09 AM

If Montreal wanted to preserve some recognition of Mount Royal at its slopes and terraced plains, it would have needed to be 10-15 storeys.


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