So I'm guessing none of you live in St. B or know anybody there.
St . B'ers LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE St. Boniface. It is God. They can not fathom how people live outside of St. B and most of all they do not want it to change. That is why they pay $1M to live on Marion. Seriously though. But yeah, there's a park directly across the street from all the condos on Tache, so lots of greenspace. And the Pointe Hebert neighbourhood is expensive, and for a reason. People will pay it. My girlfriend is from St. B and I had to basically drag her out of there to our current place in EK. We get shit on all the time by her family because we live on the other side of the tracks. Seriously though. They don't even joke. Family lives within sight of eachother, 3 of them. That's how life is in the B. For the price we paid in EK, we would have gotten one of those shacks that were torn down in Pointe Hebert to make way for the new houses. |
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Raw Almond operates for a few weeks a year as a novelty event for the sort of people who will always eventually find something cooler than you. It's not really that informative of anything. Mandel Hitzer was a very popular guy in the city's hipster community who did a good job of marketing a concept, but it has a finite lifespan. If your suggestion is that you'd be able to capitalize on the exact same variables to recreate their concept or one similar, I'd cast a lot of doubt on that. You might be right in that the place could just become a commercial kitchen available to those who want to throw private dinners or whatever, but there's a limit to that market. And that market is more interested in doing it at the Neon Factory than some nondescript restaurant that happens to be on a bridge. Either way, both concepts still lead to a failure of intention. That incredibly expensive design was never meant to house a few transient dinner parties while sitting vacant for the rest of the time. |
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BDI should set up shop on that bridge (that place where Salisbury House abandoned?)
There will never be a year round place there. People will not come out in the dead of frickin' winter. Operate it from May to October. Fuck, I'd go.. and I will bring a bunch of Quebec people with me. I brought my wife to the original BDI a few years ago, and she told all her friends about it... how good it was. This is the kind of crap Winnipeg needs. |
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So let's get creative here. Will likely be some form of pop-up or kiosk thing.
It'll need to be seasonal. Summer it can be ice cream, cold drinks, maybe a licensed patio of some sort? Maybe a series of local pop-up restaurants? Winter it can used as a stop on the river trail maybe. Here's the getting creative part. They can have some type of portable, re-useable staircase or walkway down to the river. Have it included with the whole warming hut thing. raw almond maybe. Have the restaurant part serving warming drinks, etc etc. Again, it's not viable for any single business. But maybe the City and Forks can make the best of it by actually trying something unique. On a similar topic, which would help with business, Esplanade Riel needs some better connectivity to the Cities AT system. Same scenario that goes with the Disraeli AT bridge. |
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The bridge is really only useful for cyclists heading into Whittier and people commuting on foot or bike from St. B. There's really nothing on the other side of the bridge that would draw anybody across. The restaurant almost needs to be completely scrapped to allow for a takeout window while still understanding that it's a sidewalk and active transportation route that it's on. |
It was a dumb idea and remains one. City needs to cut it's losses and let someone operate seasonally. Even at that it will probably struggle.
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Don't worry. You will be back. When her parents move into a condo on Tache you will be forced to buy their house. Love the verbage on the shacks........there are still tons available if you like ghetto life. |
See where Barrish is willing to set up his slop palace back over the river as long as the city owns the restaurant and takes all the losses, of course he want's to be paid to manage the restaurant under the Sal's name. Free Press shill Kirbyson seems to in favour.
Really surprised Chez Sophie didn't flourish after the opening of the CMHR with it's huge crowds of moneyed visitors from around the globe.:D http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/loc...rce=d-tiles-3# |
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I guess it's at least a bit more interesting than it was circa 15 years ago, but there is still not much to draw people across the bridge and that no doubt hurts the chances of any restaurant on the Esplanade Riel space. Might as well just make it a seasonal stand that rents out for special functions in the winter, and be done with it. |
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The neighbourhood gets exactly what it deserves. No matter what the issue is, there's always this underlying divide between the francophones and anglophones that destroys everything. I remember even the climbing wall guys were given nothing but grief at a point because the community was convinced the club was being co-opted by some english speaking climbers. They were going to refuse them access to the indoor climbing wall at the school gym. And it's always this way. St. B. has always actively worked against anything they might perceive as threatening their way of life even if that way of life is having cars on blocks on the front lawn and no discernible francophone culture left to speak of. |
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They have always been like that so all the street signs in St B and St Vital and area were change to add french. That cost a lot of money. I remember that parking ticket fiasco many decades ago that a frenche would not pay the ticket as he could not read English (so he said) so it was throw out in court. The bi-lingual thing cost taxpayers tens of millions of dollars a year or more in Manitoba for all the repackaging of goods and forms, as well as bi-lingual civil servants. The residents that wanted that Sophie restaurant so bad did not support it, so it closed the doors. The people in St. B are to blame for that. So, congratulations are in order. Ray Simard is a friend of mine for 20 years and he is a super nice guy. Danny Vandal has always supported my causes he is a stand up guy. Too bad that Provencher has gone downhill for many years now as it had potential to be great. The people there should get together and make the area a better place to live. |
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Would Love See Bring Dave & Buster's to Manitoba Market
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So if nothing works on the bridge, they should tear down the restaurant and make it a sitting area. Minimal long term maintenance. Gets rid of the headache. But hey you could sill have a public washroom and water fountain! The money's already been wasted.
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The money has already been sunk on the commercial kitchen on the bridge. Might as well leave it there and if a permanent tenant can't be found rent it out as an event space, kitchen and washroom included.
Turning it into a general, public open space though seems to have the potential for trouble. The relatively isolated nature of the location screams with potential to be a crime hotspot if it isn't monitored. |
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