...speaking of car hops...
 

HossC, that is verrrry funny!

Hmmm…what noir film would I like to see outside? (Preferably in the middle of the night.) This theater brings up a lot of questions, such as “who programs it?” and “is it available twenty-four hours?” and if you’re in one of the apartments by it “do you hear the noise from it all the time?” and “could you view something x-rated?” (!) and “why do you need heaters in Los Angeles?” and other queries…

I may have mentioned this before, but two years ago AMPAS used the land next to their Pickford Center on Vine Street and Fountain, on which they were originally planning to build their film museum, to open an outdoor film venue which they call Oscar Outdoors.

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You can sit on a blanket on the grass or bring lawn chairs and sit further back. You can bring your own picnic if you want. Alcohol is allowed.

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They also hire the now popular “food trucks” which park nearby and offer their wares. They try to find food trucks that go along with the theme of the film they’re screening as well. So, if you’re watching A Passage to India, you’d likely see Indian inspired food trucks about.

(Is this occurring in other parts of the country? These food trucks are all the rage here in Los Angeles. What used to be known by most of us as “roach coaches” are now Gourmet moveable feasts where people will line up and wait for one in certain locations at all hours of the day! Some restaurants are closing because the city currently has no law about where they can locate themselves and they’ll pull up by office buildings around established restaurants and take business away from them. And they are NOT cheap. I don’t understand it, frankly. I’ve been with friends a few times who wanted to do this and you wait for the trucks. Then you wait in lines to order. You get your food and eat it standing up with nowhere to set anything down really. Often in the hot sun, too. Crazy.)

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I’m also not really fond of watching films outdoors. When I have, it seems to become about the distractions—what you can eat or drink, your date, the helicopters or planes flying overhead, a dog barking, the weather, being uncomfortable on the ground, police or ambulance sirens or noir happenings in the neighborhood, heh! I did attend one of these screenings, a silent Buster Keaton film and that was enough! Although I was considering seeing their December presentation of White Christmas where they had snow machines to cover the audience at the end.

…and speaking of car hops…

Also two years ago, the Electric Dusk Drive-In opened on top of a parking structure in downtown Los Angeles at 1000 San Julian Street.

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“Complete with a full service Snack Bar, Astro Turf up front for those who want to picnic outside and car hops to take orders from your autos.” They allow you to bring your pets if you desire. They show an eclectic assortment of films. Next up is Clueless. Upcoming films range from The Big Lebowski and Pulp Fiction to A Streetcar Named Desire and, in July, Sunset Boulevard! Last year on Valentine’s Day they screened Brokeback Mountain.

A more noirish look at the location:

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And one last unique outdoor movie happening that wasn’t noirish, but certainly was “L.A.” The premiere of the film BLAZING SADDLES happened at a Drive-In! The world premiere was at the (now gone) Pickwick Drive-In Theatre in Burbank, California. The guests rode horses into the drive-in for the premiere!

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I wonder why Time Out used a picture from the UK to illustrate their story. By the license plates and cars I'd say it dates from the mid- to late-80s. Here's a slightly larger version of the picture.

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www.idea1.org.uk

BTW. I enjoyed the Blazing Saddles pics :).

Elegant in every opportunity
 

I remember Dick Powell being very elegantly dressed in this inelegant setting of northern Downtown. I guess this is what has changed in the fictional world. It can't be noirish wearing a tracksuit and sneakers...

Looking north on S. Hill
 

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S. Hill Street, 1942

April 1942. "South Hill Street, Los Angeles." Now playing at the Warner: The Male Animal. Photo by Russell Lee for the Office of War Information. Typically nice Shorpy looking north at 7th Street with a bus and a streetcar, the Warner's and the tunnels. The bicyclist seems a bit of an optimist to modern eyes. Love the little 'Cafe' sign over there under the Foreman & Clark sign.

Shorpy

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This would have been just a few months after Pearl Harbor and an even shorter time from the so-called Battle of Los Angeles (February '42). Except for the PearlH reference, no obvious indicators of a climate change, e.g., uniforms and blackout materials. Yes, this was beyond the "Dimout Zone," but so was Temple and Alvarado. http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=7930

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Temple and Alvarado. December 19, 1941 - Source states that this was "perhaps" part of blackout effort.
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Source identifies business as "The Dugout" club. No location provided. (7252 ??) Don't think it is related to another dugout mentioned on NLA (6157 East Whittier*). http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=11777

1945
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* 1929
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Still There But Stuccoized.
 

Photo is from an old family album. I always thought this was a large ugly house but modern Google photo shows it is hardly large but still ugly. Photo was taken in early 30’s. 1060 W.51st. Pl, L.A., Ca
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Not all German cars were quality -does anyone else recall the Mercedes build quality problems of the early to mid 2000s? $120,000 cars that rusted in 3 years. There was then the truly dreadful original A-Class, many of which were beyond economic repair after 4 years (if they hadn't hit an elk beforehand). UK scrapyards were full of them, junk well before their time. VW also had a torrid time around 2000 with Golf and Passat -the contemporary/ comparable blue oval offerings were much more reliable.

The elegance is very often uber bland. It makes me want to go out and buy a late 1950s Imperial or 1970s Lincoln just to have something that isn't conformist and in "ghastly good taste". Lipstick edition? I don't know if I would go quite that far....

They nearly had it right. This was designed by the Los Angeles landscape and planning firm Cook, Hall and Cornell. Wilbur D. Cook, Jr had trained with the Olmsted Brothers, but had been working in California since the very early 1900s. He went into partnership first with George Hall, and then with Ralph D. Cornell in 1924. They also designed the Montebello Country Club (now the Montebello Golf Course) not far away.

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May 1935 National Housing Exhibition Pan Pacific Fairgrounds



"The" house in question, complete with incinerator.
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That home faced in Roman brick was the Los Angeles Times model home, designed by associated architects H. Roy Kelley, Edgar Bissantz and Harold G. Spielman. The landscape was by Katherine Bashford. A modernized interpretation of the classic California ranch house, it had a steel frame for earthquake safety, and a glazed flat tile roof.

This Home Exhibition was the inaugural event for the newly constructed Pan Pacific Auditorium.

And the home was given away, and still exists. I have the address around here somewhere, I'll dig around...

As it recedes off into the distance, on the left side of the street, does that building sign say "Subway Terminal?" ?

Notice listing for Cahuenga "Freeway" yet Arroyo Seco is labeled "Parkway." Does this mean that in AAA's eyes Cahuenga was the first to claim the Freeway designation?

No Monkey Island off the "Cahuenga Freeway", but this is understandable if the map dates from late '42-'43. Other animal attractions near Lincoln High School are clearly marked: Farms for Alligators and Ostriches, and the Zoological gardens.

Bixby Slough is prominently marked. Another infamously named slough seems to have been omitted. These sloughs were once considered excellent candidates for sewage runoff.

Something possibly overlooked on NLA is how politics coupled with marine flow/ocean currents and weather probably caused certain coastal properties to become less desirable and less valuable. The direct cause: sewage.


Previous sewage on NLA: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...postcount=8119


Did trolley's refused service to those who unfortunately took a dip in Santa Monica Bay at an inopportune moment? Could have been a long ride/walk home. Wonder when LA Health Officials began closing beaches due to contamination or even suspected contamination? LA Sewers site mentions Ocean outfall at different ranges, five and seven miles in the Pacific. http://www.lasewers.org/treatment_plants/hyperion/


In 1891, LA apparently had a "Zanjero" and "Health Officer". Report of a vile smell and terrible stench from a zanja near Georgia and Second Streets. Sure case for Scarlet Fever! http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH18910306.2.23


1920s - El Segundo "Sewage Pier."
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Nice sized sewer pipe and potential Model-T garage. "Honk if you like sewage!"
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1924 - El Segundo Sewer outflow.
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1937 - Sewage treatment construction in El Segundo. Source indicates this was part of an experiment underwritten by the Fed Govt.
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1947 - El Segundo - Original treatment plant with initial construction for '50 operation.
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Vast amount of historical sewage talk here:http://www.sewerhistory.org/grfx/trtmnt/trtmnt1.htm

It's the Subway Terminal Building.

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www.martinturnbull.com

Still there minus the blade sign.

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GSV

I worked for German car manufacturer's research & development department for years and I remember the mentioned Mercedes -saga quite well.

Mercedes merged with Chrysler around 2000. Mercedes needed a partner at that time and they believed that their American partner will bring in business know-how, better knowledge of North American market etc.
But Chrysler wanted to make cars with components with calculated lifespan and their "money making" idea was to sell mainly "lease & dump" vehicles.
Test drivers told me that the quality went down the day when the first Mercedes/Chrysler cars came out of assembly line. Everything was suddenly cheap, plastic and the vehicles felt disposable and unreliable. Dashboard knobs came off, sunroofs got jammed, previously metallic internal transmission parts were now plastic; the list was long. This was a dark period for Mercedes and the consumers who had their first experiences with MB got scarred for life.

Chrysler's ideology and work ethics didn't match Mercedes', which was that making reliable vehicles with long lifespan will create a loyal customer base, and it will pay off in long term.

Mercedes got rid of Chrysler around 04', but since many of the vehicle components are pre-ordered from suppliers sometimes months or even years before, some of the crappy Chrysler parts were installed in vehicles manufactured after the partnership ended.
Mercedes has solved their quality issues but they still share Sprinter project with Chrysler and probably something else too. (Sprinter does have a decent reputation.) Also, in my personal opinion, the current low-priced, entry-level Mercedes CLA reminds me too much of those early 2000 Chrysler/MB products.

Yes, that enormous blade sign is for the Subway Terminal which is so often being incorrectly placed at '5th and Hill' or at '4th and Hill'. I think the address is something like 429 S. Hill but in any event its about halfway between 5th and 4th Streets on the west side of Hill.

re: ZAMBOANGA, "Home of the Tailess Monkeys"


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The brown horizontal line that travels across the facade and eventually curves into the sidewalk is visible in the postcard below.

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GW, here's a glimpse inside the Jackie Robinson American Legion Hall aka ZAMBOANGA. (from Nov. 2012)

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That is great, ER--thanks for digging up the new info. I assumed that the Zamboanga was still standing, especially after checking out the roof in a GSV aerial, but you've confirmed it. I didn't know until looking into the club that Zamboanga was once a well-known port in the Philippines, a stop on round-the-world cruises.


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LAT Dec 10, 1942


The fire at the Boston café mentioned in the article occurred on November 28, 1942. The name of the café? The Cocoanut Grove.

Thanks so much for the information srk1941 and Tetsu.

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Sewer maintenance yard and employees at 109 South 18th Avenue.
1930s
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(No truth to the rumor that both BullocksW and Magnins refused entry to these gents due to lack of proper attire? Always carry a spare necktie?):koko:


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1956 - Hyperion Plant - http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/91069/rec/34
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A group of well dressed people standing near a sign that says Paloma Street & E. 37th Street.

Los Angeles, circa 1915.
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Can anyone make out the sign on the building/church?


Here's the complete photograph, with a very small glimpse of the neighborhood on the left.
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One thing that caught my eye was that the street sign doesn't appear to be on a corner. -seems a little odd.

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Pacific Linen Supply Company, Vernon CA


Construction of architect Wallace Neff's largest realized Airform project in 1944.

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http://socalarchhistory.blogspot.com...n-work-of.html


above & below: A central mast is used to support and lift the Goodyear Neoprene balloon used as the interior form
for the sprayed on gunite dome.

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above: Notice the surrounding area through the scaffolding.



the dome rises
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I'm hoping the 'dome' survived, and is hidden among some obscure industrial buildings. But the only address I could find
for the Pacific Linen Supply Co., in that era, is 907 E. 8th Street (from the 1942 Los Angeles City Directory),
but that isn't exactly Vernon.

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