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Where is the popcorn... This will be entertaining..... |
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OK for others but unacceptable for Air Canada?
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I do agree, Air Canada being the largest has drawn the attention of the minister. They need to be given direction to reverse course first, but the same direction needs to be given to the others. Especially WestJet. Canada has standards. The airlines need to meet them. |
I hope that the airlines tell the Committee, with all due respect, to pound salt.
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= There should be three classes of seating - first class, business class and steerage. Period. - All tickets should allow a personal item, a carry-on and one checked bag. This should be included in the cost of the ticket. - Extra baggage fees should only exist for extra baggage. Period. - All seats should be pre-assigned at purchase. Period. Easy peasy. |
PD start YHZ-TPA today 3x/week and daily YHZ-MCO starts tomorrow: https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...s-From-Halifax
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AC announce YVR-MNL starting 01APR25:https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...803617322.html
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There is a reason airlines have moved in this direction. Pay for what you need. Just doing a short hop for a business meeting - why do you need to pay for checked bags? Seat assigments even make a bit of sense. If you don''t care, take the savings at get sat at the back. If you do care, pay the $30 and pick a prime seat at the front of the plane. |
This is basically mirroring the direction all domestic airline flights are going in North America is it not?
The main annoyance I have with this is that advertised flight "deals" tend to only apply to the basic flight where a larger carryon requires an extra fee. I absolutely get why this is the case from a business perspective but I'd rather see a discount applied if you choose to opt for a flight with zero frills. |
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But you also get people who wouldn't travel otherwise or would have taken another form of transport. Being able to fly to Florida for $100 means you zip down to where you already have a full wardrobe in your condo for a couple of days. This fills up the flight making the difference between profitable or not and allowing all fares to be lower. All that said the model doesn't seem to be super successful in North America. With Spirit and Frontier struggling and Flair never really getting off the ground. Our mainline airlines adding it more and more is probably related to above but also on Air Canada I think the idea to now charge for carry on is as much about ending the hunger games of carry on wheelies that has developed as they charge for luggage but not carry-ons. They can speed up boarding if they charge for them and some people shift to checked luggage. Travelling especially with 2 or 3 people splitting a checked bag is cheaper and easier and you can board last with pleasure with only a personal item. |
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There is a vast gulf between frequent fliers and the vast majority of the unwashed who maybe take a flight once every few years to visit the kids. All these people want is a simplified travel experience. Instead, they are confronted with automatic kiosks at check-in they do not know how to operate, surprising rules regarding what they can and cannot take on board with them (and these seem to change every few months), unexpected surcharges up and down the ying yang that they did not expect and little if any help at the kiosks as to what they have to do.
And this is even before the endocavitary search at security control. Multiply these complications x3 for cross border flights. Add in surly service, and no wonder people bitterly complain about flying any more. This is a huge change from my introduction to air travel about 1970. Back then, there were actual helpful attendants at check in. Your luggage was automatically checked and tags were put on your luggage for you. Gate attendants were polite and helpful. Stewardesses checked on you frequently during the flight, and you were actually served a hot inflight meal, included as part of the cost of the ticket! And, to top it all off, you bag was waiting for you at the carousel within only a few minutes of deplaning. Lost baggage was a rarity. Things were so simple back then......... |
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Air Canada is expected to get 1 more delivery of a brand new Boeing 787-9 plane ✈️ come (sometime in 2025). It made it possible for them to add YVR- Manila MNL. |
I personally don't mind paying for the specific bags I need as long as I actually am paying less if I travel light. And am not paying more overall than before if I do need to pay for bags. If there's anything the average person wants more than simplicity it's low prices considering that Canada has some of the most expensive flights in the OECD.
But if the combined price when adding bags is higher than it was when bags were included then no. And that's the risk when you get to advertise a low base price rather than an inclusive one. |
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It's been well documented that the main cost driver is the taxes and fees at domestic airports. The whole deregulation thing is just an excuse trotted out by the same people who view that as a solution for everything regardless of the actual issue.
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The consumer protection rules need to define a base minimum that all the airlines need to meet. A flight contains a certain amount of baggage (either in cabin or checked). |
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