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Originally Posted by NYC2ATX (Post 9106796)

That's honestly an awesome design, I would be fine with this :P

While I am not wishing for this to be delayed for an extended time, it would be interesting if it were ... and when built with an updated redesign in, say 2035, how the two schemes would differ, architecturally, technologically, and otherwise, because of the time that had elapsed in between them. I am reminded of the first phase of Rockefeller Center with 30 Rock and its surrounds, vs. the latter XYZ buildings on 6th Avenue (1211, 1221, 1251 Avenue of the Americas). What a difference a few decades makes. :rolleyes:

you got a lot of patience man lol

Wow. Where were these taken? As far as I know there is no new information on these towers except for the renderings released after wall-gate. I wonder if these designs are purely conceptual or closer to final.

Inside the hallway to the Edge (observation deck) elevator. They light up and have little people and noises coming out of those Phase II exhibits.

I'm convinced that the fella who designed the show or hallway prior to entering the elevator did a lot of acid and DMT. Its quite a trippy experience. I approve!!! :D

Nobody with a sober mind would put that many lights of all rainbow colors within 1200 sq-ft.

Are they finally gonna build it?

This is a bit random but I saw if you use your Visa credit card, there are all sorts of deals and discounts with the restaurants and other stores at Hudson Yards, including Jose Andres' restaurant and discounts for the Edge observation deck.

This may sound like wishful thinking, but has there been any proposal to deck over the convention center with a platform and build?

Thats probably still decades away. And when it does happen it wont be decked over as much as it will be torn down and either built into the ground floors of a new mega-development or relocated with Sunnyside Yard being the most obvious and likely location.

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Originally Posted by Busy Bee (Post 9538734)

That's makes sense but unfortunately, it's not part of the plan now.
https://sunnysideyard.nyc/

^That "plan" is mostly meaningless as they are doing virtually nothing to advance it.

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 9031027)

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The second phase MUST be better than the first phase which was not only abjectly UNDERWHELMING, but misrepresented their primary selling point during bid selection from other developers. Related promised variety in the textures and building materials of the façade, but yet it looks like a giant pile of glass.

Just one glass redundancy after another. Also, unsurprisingly, too much rectilinearity.

Oh, the vessel in concept is interesting, the shiny copper hide is tacky and way too shiny.

Per Mackensen

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The Twin Towers of the Mackensen Tower complex with a projected height of 1900 feet.

https://forum.newyorkyimby.com/t/whe...raper/16859/63

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/15/n...attan.amp.html

Related Companies and Wynn to Bid for New Casino in Midtown Manhattan
The companies want to put the casino on the western half of Hudson Yards, which remains undeveloped.

By Dana Rubinstein, Nicole Hong and Matthew Haag
Sept. 15, 2022

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The bid by Related Companies, the developer of Hudson Yards, and Wynn Resorts represents the first publicly announced bid for one of three new casino licenses open to city developers.

The casino would be situated next to the Javits Center on the still-undeveloped western portion of the Hudson Yards, the second half of the largest mixed-use private real estate development in American history.

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The only casino-like option currently in the five boroughs is the Resorts World facility at the Aqueduct Racetrack in Queens, which has video slot machines but no table games. Last year, Resorts World had the most gambling revenue of any casino property outside Nevada.

It will likely be several months before the casino sites are announced. The state’s gambling commission has until October to create a board that will manage the application process, which is supposed to begin within 90 days of its formation.

Steven Cohen, the owner of the New York Mets, has also been in talks with Hard Rock to develop a casino near Citi Field, the team’s stadium, according to someone familiar with the discussions.

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In order for the Related-Wynn proposal to proceed, it would have to win approval from a yet-to-be-formed, six-person community advisory committee. Mayor Eric Adams will have a representative on the committee, as will the governor, the local City Council member, the borough president, the local Assembly member and the local state senator.

….. While Manhattan has long been considered one of the last, best untapped gambling markets in the country, any casino bidder will likely have to overcome significant resistance.

“Related and Wynn have a steep hill to climb to convince local residents that a casino in Hudson Yards is in their best interests,” said Brad Hoylman, the state senator whose district includes Hudson Yards.

Other casino and real estate companies are eyeing sites throughout the city. Thor Equities, a real estate firm, has expressed interest in building a casino on Coney Island in Brooklyn. Earlier this year, Marc Holliday, the chief executive of SL Green Realty, a major office developer, said in an earnings call that Times Square would be the best location for a casino.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...s-hudson-yards

Related Pursues Giant Casino Complex at Manhattan's Hudson Yards
Developer teams up with Wynn Resorts for a proposal to build an entertainment and gaming resort in the Western Yards part of New York.

ByNatalie Wong
September 15, 2022

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The firm, founded by billionaire Stephen Ross, is partnering with Wynn Resorts Ltd. to pursue a casino license on the Western Yards, according to a statement Thursday. The plan is to build an entertainment and gaming resort along New York’s Hudson River.

While Related has previously expressed interest in the possibility of being involved in a casino development, the partnership with Wynn marks an official step in its pursuit of a license. The proposal would situate a casino in the Western Yards, located next to the Javits Center, the massive convention center that recently went through a $1.5 billion expansion.

“The Western Yards provides the ideal site for a resort that will reinvigorate our tourism economy and provide billions in tax revenues for the city and state,” Jeff Blau, Related’s chief executive officer, said in the statement. He described Related's partnering with Wynn as a “perfect pair.”

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The Western Yard is the second phase of Related and Oxford Properties’ Hudson Yards project, occupying the area from 11th to 12th avenues between West 30th and West 33rd streets. Related had initially planned to build residential buildings, offices and a school at the site.

“Siting a casino in Manhattan will help cement our place as the world's pre-eminent tourism destination,” said Jessica Walker, Manhattan Chamber of Commerce’s CEO. “Manhattan’s transportation infrastructure, cultural attractions and convention facilities at Javits present an unparalleled opportunity to maximize gaming revenue for the city and state.”

Well the Hudson Yards would be the best place for a casino. In addition to the casino there would also be room for a new MSG. The whole area from the Empire Station District to the new PA Bus Terminal could benefit from this new project. Not only that but projects like 360 10th Avenue and Affirmation Tower could also benefit. :)

yeah if they throw a new msg in the western hudson yards mix i would be all in.

if they want a giant casino, then what else could they add if not a new msg? residential as previously planned? i wouldn’t want to live next to monaco casino if it were even possible, much less an american mega casino.

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Originally Posted by mrnyc (Post 9733098)

At one time, wasn't Hudson Yards was supposed to have a new Jets stadium? I think it was for a planned NYC Olympic bid that was never made.

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Originally Posted by DCReid (Post 9733160)

At one time, wasn't Hudson Yards was supposed to have a new Jets stadium? I think it was for a planned NYC Olympic bid that was never made.

Yes, the original zoning included a stadium on the western half. The JETS decided it was too costly, considering the Giants offer to share costs on a new stadium in the Meadowlands.

Related has said it previously approached MSG about a potential move there, something that would be more of a longshot than a casino. Related always said the western railyards (mostly condo) is what made the entire development worthwhile. Not shocking they would jump at the chance for a casino. But the western rails also is where the new school would go, and I don’t see anyone approving a casino there.

But the westside is one of 2 locations in the city (the other being Coney Island), where a casino makes the most sense. I think it should be on the block south of the Javits. That sit is large enough. But its one of 2 sites Hochul is eyeing for affordable housing.

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