Burj Dubai Updates?

[dubai 1]

I posted that in SSC. The original post was by "Lecom" in the Burj Dubai thread on the main page.

is that who knows the final height ?

[AltinD]

^^ No, he says to know people who do.

[Imre]

I am back:)

Burj Dubai

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[dubai 1]

who ever knows people who know the final height please message me

[bikes]

^^ Good luck! :D

[mariokarter]

I like your teddy!

[Imre]

Burj Dubai

15/April/2007

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[Aldebaran]

who ever knows people who know the final height please message me


I estimate it would be something between 590 and 620 (ROOF!)

Im not sure about that but as far as i know, it is 122 floor tall and it is around 445 .. almost the same height of the taipei 101 ... so the floors are around 3.7 tall each one...
40 X 3.7 = 148 m ...
122 X 3.7 = 451.4

451.4 + 148 = 600

BUT not all the floors are 3.7... some of the are mostly a little bit taller..

[AltinD]

:previous: Wrong!!!

[Mocholate]

It does need the proposed 195 floors to reach 800 and thats with a 116m spire,not accounting for any double size floors

[Mocholate]

wikipedia says at 122 floors it was 430m wich sounds about right

at 195 floors it should reach around 695m + the spire app.165m = 860m
at 160 floors with 165m spire it should reach 737m

my guess is it will be around 740 metres

[dubai 1]

^^ wrong two. it's a 69m spire. not 165m spire. top of the roof will be 739m, 624m is the highest occupied floor level. above that which is about 30 floors above that are for mechanical floors and communication floors. so it wont be around 740m, most likey will be 808m then 740m

[Mocholate]

where do you get that info from?

[Imre]

15/April/2007

Burj Dubai

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[Aldebaran]

According to official sources ( www.burjdubai.com) it was 422.5 m tall at the 120 floor

So if Im so wrong can someone explain me with drawings or something how tall is going to be the roof of the last floor?? and how many floors?? 160 or 195 ???
if it is going to be 195 floors Im pretty sure it would be around 740m tall or even taller as dubai_1 says.. but with 160 floors I really dont know how is going to reach that height...

[AltinD]

Gee people. Up to floor 117 where hotel and condos. Upwards are only offices which have a much higher floor to ceiling height.

The lowest floor is 3.2 meter. The tallest one is 5.7.

[dubai 1]

5.7m is the height of the mechanical floors

[bbeliko]

so anybody knows when the burj is going to be the world tallest building

[Slugbelch]

Hey Slugbelch !!
Miss your plentifull and excelent updates man, as do many others I'm sure.
Where you been bud ? You had new stuff here just about every day - was bitchin !
Please return to your unmatched internet searching skills
You ARE the man !!!Check pm ;) BTW, nice pix!
Especially the night ones
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[mariokarter]

How do you take and combine photos like that. there are some placess on the edges where the seems are noticeable though.

[M.K.]

Unbelievible pics. :tup:

[1ajs]

How do you take and combine photos like that. there are some placess on the edges where the seems are noticeable though.

image stiching is what its called google it theres some neat plug ins tools you can get that will do it for you

[1ajs]

loving this shot

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[Bergenser]

The skyline shots owns! :tup:

[Sky Tower]

image stiching is what its called google it theres some neat plug ins tools you can get that will do it for you
Yeah, with photoshop you can make a 360 deg panorama this way too, cool stuff!

[dubai 1]

hey sky tower when are you going to have that meeting

[Sky Tower]

:previous: I'm still waiting for one of SOM's senior partners to get back to me next week with responses to the questions, but in that time I managed to get hold of Adrian Smith's P.A, Carrie Neill at Adrian Smith & Gordon Gill Architecture, who kindly forwarded the same questions to him. The very next day to my delight was an email from the man himself, with just the responses to the questions numbered 1-19.
Even I thought that was pretty cool! :rolleyes:

[Sky Tower]

Adrian Smith's exclusive interview update!
April 26th 2007 - Interview with Adrian Smith, of Adrian Smith & Gordon Gill Architecture - By Sky Tower
Original emailed questions response - 19:48hrs GMT - 2007/4/26
1) Since construction started in January 2004, how many design changes have been implemented during construction and how many of those have had an impact on the final height of the building?
"Only one major change and this was when the foundations were just starting to go in.We changed the height from 700m to "something taller" but more importantly, we got the top right! The earlier design had missing steps in it and it was not resolved. We were able to correct it in time to increase foundations to take on extra load".
2) There have been sources close to the project that I'm in contact with personally from Besix that are stating that as of November 2006, the Burj Dubai Tower is currently in its 7th design configuration since its inception as the 560m Grollo Tower and the 5th major re-design since construction began. Can you confirm that this is true?
"It depends on what you call design configuration. To me and to the client there were a number of design ideas that we were "looking at" before we decided on the final scheme. All were similar and most were done for the purpose of seeing how short the project could be and still be the worlds tallest and feel right. In my opinion and that of Mohammad Al Abbar's we were not happy until we arrived at the current scheme, so basically none of the other drawings that you have seen were ever regarded as final but were used because they were the best we had at the time to show for preliminary marketing purposes. You must understand that design is a process and that a project this complex and large has a number of variables that come into play and interact with each other and a final answer doesn't just appear. One variable is played off against the other until the right solution is obtained for both. Sometimes this takes months to resolve."
3) Understanding that SOM's stance is that the final height will remain undisclosed, are you aware of the official EMAAR PowerPoint presentation file floating around the internet, which was shown at a tall buildings convention in October 2005, with the widely regarded 808m version of the Burj Dubai Tower released to the public? Since this date, Greg Sang has publicly announced that a recent design change has given the pinnacle a more slender, less abrupt ending, inferring that indeed the tower has been raised taller than the previous design, are you able to confirm that this is the case?
"Everyone can guess about what the final height will be, but the truth is that no one really knows what the final height will be until the tower cranes come down...not me, not the Chairman, not the contractor."
4) Given that the competing and approved Al Burj Tower is set for groundbreaking later this year, with Nakheel officials having recently quoted that their 3rd major re-design has been watered down from a massive 1600m tall to 'ONLY' 1200m in height, will the BD's only real pipeline and approved competitor still realistically be a target to beat?
"We never intended for the Burj Dubai to be the tallest for long. However, there will be many attempts to top it that will not make it off the drawing boards because to do so in this economic climate will be to lose money - lots of it. Construction costs have increased dramatically since BD was bought. My guess is that Nakheel will not start until something else that is taller than Burj Dubai outside the country does and then Nakheel will build taller than that one so that Dubai can maintain the title. Remember that Sheikh Mohammad owns all of Nakheel and controls what gets built in Dubai. Why build taller until you need to."
5) Can you confirm that the foundations set in place for the BD's construction could only support a structure of no more than 950m?
"No Comment."
6) If this 950m limit is true, what would be the limiting factors? (mass, torsional stability, windload, lateral strength etc?)
"No Comment."
7) Is there in fact a final height set in place or are there different heights that can be implemented at different key stages during construction dependant on the performance of the current constructed structure, which will keep the final pinnacle height a fluid number not actually set yet?
Referred to question #3
8) A Besix design house member has inferred that a height of 1011m has not only been a consideration, but is being built, creating the worlds first 1km tower!
From it's current constructed status, I and other designers have come up with some very plausible 1km versions of the building ourselves without losing any of its proportion, with a continuation of another round of concrete setbacks before the steel pinnacle is erected. Have heights of this magnitude ever been considered for this site?
"Yes!"
9) From official presentations found in multiple locations from multiple official sources involved with this development, floor layouts for an 808m version of the tower have always shown 162 useable floors, before the unusable spaces within the top half of the towers pinnacle. In your new book, there is clearly a schematic drawing of a level 171, with 2 of the 3 setbacks to continue climbing many more floors above, indicating that the deliberately orchestrated release of an 808m Tower is in fact an old version, with a newer version being considerably taller. Will SOM now confirm that the tower will have considerably more than 171 floors, whilst retaining the floor count as a guarded secret?
"Unless it changes from this point on, there are approximately 160 "occupied" floors in the Burj Dubai. The others are for maintenance, window washing etc."
10) Why won't SOM retract it's old stance of 'above 700m' and now say 'above 850m or 900m' increasing the inevitable frenzy that would ensue, which would increase the interest of a tower you'd surely like the world to know more about, whilst allowing SOM to still keep it's final height a mystery?
"SOM is no longer engaged in the project except with field personnel. The project has transferred to Noor and Hyder who will be the Architect/Engineer of Record."
11) All official SOM statements so far have said that the originally planned completion date will continue to make the end of 2008 deadline!
On the official SOM website, the completion date has been changed recently to the end of 2009.
After denying that the curtain walling delay will hold up construction, stating that procedures are in place to catch up lost cladding time, which has no impact on construction progress, is the delay of the cladding an impact on this year long setback, or is the delay a new deadline brought on by changes to construction regarding its recent height change?
"I think the project will be complete sometime in the middle of 2009. As of this writing, we think the cranes will come down in March or April of 2009. It is a fluid issue to some extent. Exterior wall is late but I am told that they will have some wall on site in June and if the wall fabricator can furnish a good portion of wall, it can go up fast since all of the inserts are in place for most of the existing floors."
12) Both EMAAR, Besix and SOM show an elongated, stretched version of the 705m design that now equates to the later 808m version, which is actually the same render literally stretched to uphold the 808m design. Will SOM actually release an up to date version that accurately pertains to the correct setbacks with its new pinnacle configuration to indicate what the final/latest design will actually look like upon completion?
"See the cover of my new monograph for an accurate drawing of the elevation of Burj Dubai."
13) Do the powers that be (designers and public relations) monitor the worldwide construction forums as a guide to how the tower is perceived by those most passionate about this build, and what do they make of the hysteria that has been created by having the height remain a closely guarded secret?
"I am sure there is someone who follows the hype it is getting and part of the strategy for keeping the height secret is to keep people guessing - thus keeping it in the news."
14) What is the primary reason for keeping the height a secret? Is it more to do with PR and inevitable public intrigue, or more to keep competitors guessing to ensure that the BD Tower completes and retains its title of World Tallest Building for as long as possible?
"Both!"
15) Aerodynamicists and engineers testing the on site and model data have announced that the results have been sufficiently good enough to warrant an increase in design height, part way through construction. Can you confirm this great news?
"This was done when we made the major change in height during the foundation construction. The Discovery Channel article was wrong when they said we changed the height when the contractors were at the 35th floor."
16) Hypothetically, if time and money where no issue, given the level of construction now, what would be the maximum possible height attainable before eating into pre-defined safety margins?
"No comment."
17) What new innovations and materials are being used for the first time on this record breaking structure?
"A major condensation collection system to recapture the condensation (fresh water from the air) is an innovation not used on any other building that I know of. There are several innovative construction techniques. The use of wind tunnel analysis in conjunction with building massing design and orientation has not been done to this extent previously."
18) EMAAR are releasing current construction updates on their official website. It seems that heights are being taken from L1 to the last completed floor. Can you confirm that true ground level (datum point) is actually lower than L1 (and by how much) and why construction update heights aren't measured to the top of current construction? Is this a way of artificially lowering the current height status during construction to keep the rivals guessing by having a inaccurate formulaic matrix, if the true current height and floorcount weren't known?
"No comment"
19) Finally, there are many hundreds of die hard Burj Dubai enthusiasts, that have shown a huge amount of study and insight during the whole construction process across two extremely large construction forums. These dedicated individuals have had the trauma of not knowing the final height of this amazing building. For these dedicated individuals who have inadvertently been spreading the good word of the Burj Dubai Tower around the world, what new untold information can you release for these good people, that will satisfy their hunger to know more intricate details and updates of this amazing structure of a lifetime, to keep our great forums buzzing for another week of passionate and informed discussions?
"I hope that the candid answers above will help feed those interested in Burj Dubai. I appreciate all the interest you have shown and I have attempted to document what I know in the 80 pages of my Monograph that shows Burj in some depth."
Regards,
Adrian Smith

[mariokarter]

gahhhh...there never gonna tell us the height.

[Slugbelch]

"Only one major change and this was when the foundations were just starting to go in.We changed the height from 700m to "something taller" but more importantly, we got the top right! The earlier design had missing steps in it and it was not resolved. We were able to correct it in time to increase foundations to take on extra load".
Cool insight that original was 700 when foundations are going in, was changed so quickly to "something taller". I don't think that, for a 700m tower, an extra 108m was the "something taller".
"It depends on what you call design configuration. To me and to the client there were a number of design ideas that we were "looking at" before we decided on the final scheme. All were similar and most were done for the purpose of seeing how short the project could be and still be the worlds tallest and feel right. In my opinion and that of Mohammad Al Abbar's we were not happy until we arrived at the current scheme, so basically none of the other drawings that you have seen were ever regarded as final but were used because they were the best we had at the time to show for preliminary marketing purposes. You must understand that design is a process and that a project this complex and large has a number of variables that come into play and interact with each other and a final answer doesn't just appear. One variable is played off against the other until the right solution is obtained for both. Sometimes this takes months to resolve.Thus the various tops on the renders early on. I'm sure it takes several weeks for marketing to kick in and they needed something.
"Everyone can guess about what the final height will be, but the truth is that no one really knows what the final height will be until the tower cranes come down...not me, not the Chairman, not the contractor."This sounds like a fluid last few tiers and a spire to rise from inside the building to reveal the final height (ala a famous tower in NYC).
"We never intended for the Burj Dubai to be the tallest for long. However, there will be many attempts to top it that will not make it off the drawing boards because to do so in this economic climate will be to lose money - lots of it. Construction costs have increased dramatically since BD was bought. My guess is that Nakheel will not start until something else that is taller than Burj Dubai outside the country does and then Nakheel will build taller than that one so that Dubai can maintain the title. Remember that Sheikh Mohammad owns all of Nakheel and controls what gets built in Dubai. Why build taller until you need to."This sounds good enough for me in terms of Al Burj, but since construction costs will not get any cheaper than they are now, I would begin to purchase the new WTB as soon as possible.
Sky Tower: A Besix design house member has inferred that a height of 1011m has not only been a consideration, but is being built, creating the worlds first 1km tower! From it's current constructed status, I and other designers have come up with some very plausible 1km versions of the building ourselves without losing any of its proportion, with a continuation of another round of concrete setbacks before the steel pinnacle is erected. Have heights of this magnitude ever been considered for this site?
Adrian Smith: "Yes!" I love this question and I really love his answer :tup:
"Unless it changes from this point on, there are approximately 160 "occupied" floors in the Burj Dubai. The others are for maintenance, window washing etc.":shrug:
"SOM is no longer engaged in the project except with field personnel. The project has transferred to Noor and Hyder who will be the Architect/Engineer of Record." Sounds like a good place to begin Sky Towers exclusive interviews on the WTB part 2 ;)
"See the cover of my new monograph for an accurate drawing of the elevation of Burj Dubai."Us here knew what the current elevation is to look like, so this sound more like a good time to plug his new book. Nice to here somebody of relevance to confirm it though.
"I am sure there is someone who follows the hype it is getting and part of the strategy for keeping the height secret is to keep people guessing - thus keeping it in the news."What a job that would be! Wait a minute, we do that here for free!
Sky Tower:What is the primary reason for keeping the height a secret? Is it more to do with PR and inevitable public intrigue, or more to keep competitors guessing to ensure that the BD Tower completes and retains its title of World Tallest Building for as long as possible?[/I]
Adrian Smith: "Both!"I see the old practices of the 30's still apply today.
"This was done when we made the major change in height during the foundation construction. The Discovery Channel article was wrong when they said we changed the height when the contractors were at the 35th floor."This reinforces my guess that it will be taller than 808m. But who knows
"A major condensation collection system to recapture the condensation (fresh water from the air) is an innovation not used on any other building that I know of. There are several innovative construction techniques. The use of wind tunnel analysis in conjunction with building massing design and orientation has not been done to this extent previously."Very interesting. Would like to find out more on this.
Sky Tower: EMAAR are releasing current construction updates on their official website. It seems that heights are being taken from L1 to the last completed floor. Can you confirm that true ground level (datum point) is actually lower than L1 (and by how much) and why construction update heights aren't measured to the top of current construction? Is this a way of artificially lowering the current height status during construction to keep the rivals guessing by having a inaccurate formulaic matrix, if the true current height and floorcount weren't known?
Adrian Smith: "No comment"To me this answer means yes. ;)
"I hope that the candid answers above will help feed those interested in Burj Dubai. I appreciate all the interest you have shown...
Regards,
Adrian SmithThey were indeed candid. NOBODY has been able to snag a BD interview with one of the main players lately, except for our very own Sky Tower. This truely shows who here, and elsewhere, go the extra mile to go through red tape that others would simply give up (like me on a couple other "players").

I agree with Mr. Adrian in saying: "I appreciate all the interest you have shown." Sky Tower. Don't let the mods and others on here and other forums/websites keep bashing you on a regular basis. I am in your corner my friend :worship:

As long as you keep the 1k hope alive, so will I.

[Fran]

Finance for Burj interiors agreed

Depa Interiors has signed a $117 million deal with Mashreqbank and HSBC to partly finance its $162.7 million contract work at Burj Dubai.The Middle East interior contracting company, and a subsidiary of Depa United Group (DUG), is to carry out the interiors work for 899 serviced and residential apartments in the building.The announcement was made at a press conference held on Tuesday and attended by Mohannad Sweid, CEO of DUG, Mohamed Al-Mulla, CEO of HSBC Abu Dhabi and Omar Bouhadiba, Head of Corporate and Investment Banking at Mashreqbank.
"Depa's strong growth over the past years has always been fueled by our ability to work with top tier partners across different sectors and business spheres," said Mr. Sweid."We are very happy to now be associated with two of the top banks operating in the region and on such a prestigious project."DUG earned AED1.1 billion (about $300 million) in revenues in 2006 - driven by the region's huge demand for interior work - placing it in the top 20 global specialist contractors.

[mountsac]

if this has been asked before, then pardon my questions here: are they gonna start on the facade soon?

[Slugbelch]

^Answer is in the Adrian Smith interview:



Adrian Smith: Exterior wall is late but I am told that they will have some wall on site in June and if the wall fabricator can furnish a good portion of wall, it can go up fast since all of the inserts are in place for most of the existing floors."

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[Sky Tower]

Hey, thanks for the breakdown Slugbelch, we've missed you being around so much here lately, are you back for good? :D

:previous:As I said on 'highrise', I think that picture was taken on L43, as those green boxed outriggers that appear in the left of the picture also appear in 4 different places on the 42nd floor......looks like they were taken from one floor above that! :shrug:

[Mocholate]

That pic seems to be taken from a higher point than those two identical buildings in the background

[Imre]

Burj Dubai

30/April/2007

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[Slugbelch]

Thanks Imre. Well, at 124, looks like obs deck either looks like the same floor height as the others, or, it is somewhere else higher.Hey, thanks for the breakdown Slugbelch, we've missed you being around so much here lately, are you back for good?I'm still around, just not as much. I'm very busy at work this time of year, plus, I spent a week in Huntington Beach California getting my brother married. He's marring a lawyer, so he better act right, or else! Tried to get back my surfing skills while I was there, but like most sports, I must retire. Especially after getting tumbled around the surf like a sock in a washing machine. :eeekk: :drowning:

Nice moon shot:

http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/8258/bdnethopperxqf7.jpg

original:
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/817/bdnethopperqv0.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bdnethopperqv0.jpg)
nethopper

[Tom_Green]

Nice moon shot:


original:
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/817/bdnethopperqv0.th.jpg (http://img340.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bdnethopperqv0.jpg)
nethopper

Would have been better if he had used a real moon pic and put in this pic.

But the Burj Dubai shot is nice.

Hey Slugbelch do you like my Dubai pics?

[mariokarter]

looks liek its really coming along.

[Imre]

sorry for the big size

Burj Dubai

01/May/2007

my first air trip in Dubai , many thanks for Nakheel:)

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http://img53.imageshack.us/img53/720/imresolt07xy5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[mariokarter]

They paid for you to take those pics?

[Imre]

Burj Dubai , I counted 125 floors

04/May/2007

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and there is still the sign "INDIA" :)

http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/3209/imresolt09bk6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Slugbelch]

04/May/2007
and there is still the sign "INDIA" :)


I've always liked those "INDIA" pics. When my parents built their houses and the concrete was poured for the garages, we would write our names/date in it in the corner. Even though we no longer live in them, it was like leaving our little (but noticeable) mark on the accomplishment.

Way to go India for the personal touch. A pic keeper for sure

Thanks Imre:cheers:

[Imre]

welcome Slugbelch :)

04/May/2007

Burj lake

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[Imre]

just for interesting:

Burj area , underground road, tunel works

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[Sky Tower]

Great shots Imre! Nice to see new parts of the area under construction.

Inside of Burj Dubai
http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2007/insideofburj/inside-burj.html (http://www.burjdubaiskyscraper.com/2007/insideofburj/inside-burj.html)

[Slugbelch]

Supertall: Designing Structure of the Burj Dubai
Sponsored by: Hot Topics in PS&E
Cosponsored with The Skyscraper Museum

The first event in the World's Tallest Building series will focus on the Burj Dubai, soon to be the world's tallest building.

Join us for all the World's Tallest Building Events!

May 23rd
Supertall: Designing Structure of the Burj Dubai (http://www.nyas.org/events/eventDetail.asp?eventID=9276&date=5/23/2007%206:30:00%20PM)
June 13th
Extreme Building: The Challenges of Constructing Burj Dubai (http://www.nyas.org/events/eventDetail.asp?eventID=9332&date=6/13/2007%206:30:00%20PM)
July 18th
World's Tallest Building: Why Dubai? (http://www.nyas.org/events/eventDetail.asp?eventID=9333&date=7/18/2007%206:30:00%20PM)

The series is a collaboration between the Skyscraper Museum and the New York Academy of Sciences to coincide with the exhbition World's Tallest: Burj Dubai. It follows the Mixed Greens series which built on the Museum's 2006 exhibition Green Towers for New York and the related lectures "Green Teams," available in a virtual archive at www.skyscraper.org.

This event is free to NYAS and Skyscraper Museum members.
Skyscraper Museum members please register at: physicalsciences@nyas.org.

Reception to follow.
Log In here (https://www.nyas.org/_membership/login.asp?redirect_location=http://www.nyas.org/events/eventDetail.asp?eventID%3D9276%26date%3D5%2F23%2F2007%25206%3A30%3A00%2520PM) to add this event to your calendar.


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WIND ENGINEERING OF THE BURJ DUBAI TOWER (http://www.ctbuh.org/TechPapers/WC007-092.pdf) (pdf)

[Imre]

Burj Dubai , with a small camera , morning I am going there again.

11/May/2007

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[Sky Tower]

:previous: The real deal is finally here....thank you so much Imre!

[Imre]

12/May/2007

Burj Dubai, history rising

board changed this morning , 126 floors , cladding and bye bye Petronas:)

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[M.K.]

Burj Dubai , with a small camera , morning I am going there again.

11/May/2007

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Those photos show how clad is important in BD. I am not kiding or beeing ironic. :haha:

[Aleks]

i think ima a little behind on this building so imma ask some questions
is this a "green" building?
its the tallest man made thing in the world but how does is save the enviorment?!?!
and how much concrete is being used in this building? could'nt it constructed from metal instead?

[JOVIMECARCH]

thanks for to share a lot of pics

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/JOVIMECARCH/firmauniversal.jpg

[Imre]

14/May/2007

Burj Dubai mega update PART 1

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[Imre]

14/May/2007

Burj Dubai mega update PART 2

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[Imre]

14/May/2007

Burj Dubai mega update PART 3

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[Imperar]

I see that they are finally testing the facades. :D

[Imre]

16/May/2007

Burj Dubai

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[Imre]

16/May/2007

Burj Dubai

from Nad Al Sheba famous roundabout:)

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from Satwa

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[Imre]

16/May/2007

Burj Dubai

from my favourite place:)

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[Mocholate]

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[FazDeH]

I assumed it would be taller than that. Though judging scale in that photo is difficult. I thought the pinicle would reach the very top of that photo.

[Mocholate]

you have to account fo the arc of the earth making the top seem lower

[Mocholate]

Thats what i'm hoping it will look like when i go there in september http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/choppdat/banana2.gif

[Slugbelch]

The 4th?

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The 3rd? http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3010/bdaddressbookrg7.jpg (http://www.lulu.com/content/438621) The 2nd? http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6932/pbdubailil5.jpg (http://www.islamicjewellery.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=1867)

The first BD souvenir?
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Note: Click on pic for link to stores

[Mocholate]

:yes: i snagged the pic of the gold BD :previous: :yes: :cheers:

[Imre]

Burj Dubai to be enveloped with curtain wall glass panel

19-May-2007

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L-R: Essa Al Ghurair, Director, Al Ghurair Investment and Ahmad Al Matrooshi, Managing Director, UAE, Emaar Properties pictured with other executives at the installation ceremony of the curtain wall glass panels on Level 19 of the Burj Dubai

Burj Dubai, set to become the world’s tallest tower and developed by Emmar Properties, world’s largest real estate developer with headquarters in Dubai, is taking its final shimmering form as installation of curtain wall glass panels commenced on Level 19 of the super-structure. The first batch of cladding comprises 25 panels specially fabricated using advanced engineering techniques and air-freighted to Dubai. Made of high-performance materials, the curtain wall will enhance the building’s distinctive appearance and seal the interior from the external heat, wind, moisture, and noise.

Greg Sang, Assistant Director, Projects, Emaar Properties, said, “The structure of Burj Dubai is progressing on schedule and, now, with the start of the curtain wall installation, the finishing works will proceed at full speed. With the tower’s façade being put in place the elegant shape and form as envisaged in the architectural design will become reality. The contractors have put in place an accelerated programme to fabricate and install the panels, which will enable the on-schedule completion of the tower”.

Burj Dubai, located at the heart of Downtown Burj Dubai, is Dh73 billion mixed-use real estate project featuring residential apartments, commercial space, hospitality projects and several retail outlets including The Dubai Mall, one of the world’s largest shopping and entertainment destinations. The tower is presently 125-storeys tall and is one of the five tallest structures in the world.

Source:gowealthy.com

[q8_shaggy_17]

ok so now the tower is 125 storeys high, so that means that 25 storeys r left 2 go right?

[Imre]

Burj Dubai

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Creating the tallest man-made structure in history is not only a commercially driven decision – it sends a message to the world that you mean business when it comes to thinking big. But ever since it was announced that the Burj Dubai would break a string of height-related construction records, the precise details have been shrouded in mystery. Matt Slater attempts to separate fact from fiction when it comes to why the Burj Dubai was built, whether it will be completed on time, if it will stand the test of time and just how high it will be.

When it comes to putting a figure on the eventual height of the Burj Dubai, those claiming to have insider knowledge will, with great authority, state the building will eventually rise to the jaw-dropping height of 808 metres. It is a number that has been in hundreds of reports in the past 12 months, but the truth is that hardly anyone knows the exact figure. And if you try asking staff at the Burj Dubai sales centre or anyone working on the site, their answer will almost always be the same: ‘We just don’t know’.

But one man who does know is Greg Sang – project manager of Burj Dubai – and when Time Out spoke to him in the shadow of the already 448.1 metre-high business and residential tower he was willing to give us the latest – and was quick to play down the hype.

Right, come on then, how big is it going to be? 808metres I believe?

I don’t know where that figure came from. This is what I can tell you – it is going to be higher than 700 metres.

Definitely not above 800 metres then? So, how about 707 metres, or maybe 777m?

It is going to be taller than 700m. The decision has not been taken on when we will reveal the exact height. I have told you that much and that is all I can say.

According to a lot of reports it is only going to be the tallest in the world for a few weeks. Will you have to keep adding bits on the top to keep up with the opposition?

You hear that buildings are being built in places like Kuwait, Bahrain and elsewhere that are going to be the tallest, but has work started on any of them yet? You can look at the Burj Dubai and see it is getting taller all the time. When we are finished, Burj Dubai will hold several official records such as the tallest freestanding structure in the world – you can count on that.

What is the point in building the Burj Dubai? Is it an ego thing?

There are several reasons, and, of course, one objective is to create the tallest building on the planet. But the company has shareholders and so it has to be profitable. It is a mainly residential building and so it will be a spectacular place to live. It has not just been built to create records – that is one thing a lot of people get wrong. Also we see it as the focal point of the whole Downtown Dubai area, which will have hotels, offices, a shopping mall and other residential areas.

In the past couple of years Dubai has been hit by some fairly sizeable aftershocks from Iranian earthquakes, and the UAE authorities have set up a centre dedicated to monitoring tremors. Is there a chance the Burj Dubai will come crashing down?

This is something that does need clearing up. It is actually the case that smaller buildings are more at risk if an earthquake happens. It is all to do with what we call the frequency. If you imagine a block on top of rows of marble, the taller the block is the more rigid it is. The Burj Dubai is very, very safe.

How about other factors? When you are building at such a height then the weather must be an issue?
We would never just carry on working regardless. If the winds become too strong, then we shut down. In that case we will just have to work harder to meet deadlines. When people speculate about problems we have had or difficulties in the future, then they usually miss the things that are true. For example, there is only one way on and one way out to transport material up the tower and that does create a problem. This project is a big challenge – but in the end we will prove all of the doubters wrong. This year we had to contend with a delay in getting work on the cladding of the Burj Dubai started but we are getting back on track and it will not delay us from the completion date we have now set.

A lot of people have bought homes in the Burj Dubai, and in the past the completion date has been changed? Do you have a final date now and will they be ready on time? Also, when will you officially beat the current height record?

In terms of taking the record then we are saying it will be September this year, and I am sure there will be some sort of event to recognise that achievement. The date for finishing the building is the end of 2008. There are people saying that will not happen, but we will do it.

Will people be moving in at the end of 2008? I am 100 per cent confident that they will.


Mine’s bigger than yours

When it comes to topping the records that will be set by Burj Dubai there are three contenders lining up – and all are in the Middle East. Both Bahrain and Kuwait say they will be taking a shot at building a taller structure than the Burj Dubai, but as of yet work has not started – although rumour has it that ground will be broken in Kuwait with an aim to go past the 1000m mark.

However, the main challenger looks likely to rise up just a few miles from the Burj Dubai site. Nakheel confirmed to Time Out that it is going to build a super structure somewhere in the city that will be ‘very tall’, but refused to comment on what exactly that means. ‘At this stage, we can say that the project will go ahead, although the location has yet to be confirmed,’ says a spokesman for the company. ‘Anything to do with height cannot be discussed at this stage, although we will be making an announcement when the site is decided.’

Source:Time Out

[Tom_Green]

The challenge is out there then. If you guys can say it, then prove it. Talk is cheap over here and night shots are hard to come by without them being grainy and/or out of focus. Much less the angle, perspective, and other objects in the shot. Hang out there a couple hours to get a moon shot at this height, looking towards the city, make it minimum 2206x3310 @ 1.5MB and I'll throw in a dancing banana at the end of my praise. The second shot I agree with. Any tourist can get that one.

Tom, your promisses are like the last couple posts you made here...baseless and uninformed. I thought you knew more about the tower cladding by now or you just wanted to fight with the "up-in-the-air" Sky T. Your not that good at trolling, so you might as well just go back to lurking :haha:


Hey Sluggy, beat that.

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[Mocholate]

:cool: May 20th 2007 - Level 131 - Height 474.65m

[Sky Tower]

Hey Sluggy, beat that.Kudos.....great shots Tom! I'm sure Slugbelch as well as I would love to have those pan shots in HD for our desktops! Pretty please! :worship:

[towerguy3]

Toronto's CN Tower is 553 meters high so another 80 meters to go.

Has Burj surpassed Taipai 101 yet?

[Mocholate]

34.35 metres left to surpass the 101 spire
52.35m to reach Sears higher antenna
78.35m to beat CN tower
154.15m to be the tallest existing structure ,KVLY tv mast
172.15m to be the tallest ever , warsaw radio mast (collapsed 91)
+ over 100 of radio and tv masts which are in excess of 500mtres

[Mocholate]

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[Imre]

21/May/2007

Burj Dubai

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[Sacto]

Thanks for the update

[Imre]

23/May/2007

Burj Dubai

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[Imre]

23/May/2007

Burj Dubai

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[Imre]

24/May/2007

Burj Dubai from Almas Tower-JLT

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[rdhornst]

I was wondering:

1. How many floors/feet are we up to now?
2. About when is it estimated that the Burj dubai will become the tallest building in the world?

[MikeM]

I was wondering:

1. How many floors/feet are we up to now?
2. About when is it estimated that the Burj dubai will become the tallest building in the world?

1. About 131 floors or 475m
2. At 509+m - Est. around the first week of July

[M.K.]

1. About 131 floors or 475m

2. At 509+m - Est. around the first week of July


That information is wrong.

For the 1. - 475m is already quite short and small as many other structures are more than 500m high Mark. So, The Burj Dubai is still not that tall yet.

For 2. - Burj Dubai will brake the Mark as the tallest building in world when surpass the Sears at 527m, the CN Tower 553m and Ostankino Tower 540m, while 509+m is even not that high.

[Imre]

26/May/2007

Burj Dubai , board has been changed , 129 floors now

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Burj Dubai and underground tunel exit ( or maybe emergency exit)

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Burj Dubai and Palm Boulevard

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and the weather there

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9310/imresolt67fh8.th.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=imresolt67fh8.jpg)

[Slugbelch]

Wow Imre, several trips to the beast the last week. Thanks for your time to do this.

The top part is the most interesting to observe.

[mariokarter]

41 degrees!!!!!! Man people stop wanting to do stuff when it hits 25ish here, they wouldn't even be outside at 41.

[Imre]

29/May/2007

Burj Dubai

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5870/imresolt04od7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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Burj Dubai from Festival City

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8669/imresolt01ww6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[MikeM]

That information is wrong.

For the 1. - 475m is already quite short and small as many other structures are more than 500m high Mark. So, The Burj Dubai is still not that tall yet.

For 2. - Burj Dubai will brake the Mark as the tallest building in world when surpass the Sears at 527m, the CN Tower 553m and Ostankino Tower 540m, while 509+m is even not that high.

1. 475m is the approx. CURRENT height of the Burj
2. 509m is the height of Taipei 101 - Currently recognized as the tallest BUILDING in the world.

Burj is already taller than Sears as Sears' Antennae do not count toward the tallest ranking as they are not considered an integral part of the building. Kind of petty and semantic, but those are the agreed criteria for WTB.

The Burj will eventually surpass the CN tower but rightly or wrongly, that structure is not classed as a building.

[Imre]

31/May/2007

Burj Dubai from Dubai Creek

http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/1289/imresolt122pf6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Sky Tower]

:previous: Ahh, the skycars that nobody knows about....thanks Imre! :tup:

I did a podcast on the Burj Dubai Tower with Richie Gill from allaboutskyscrapers.com

Turn on your speakers and enjoy!

linkie (http://www.allaboutskyscrapers.com/blog/)

[mariokarter]

thanks for the podcast. Skytower, you really come off as a big skyscraper nerd (which is a compliment)! So why is their a gondola in dubai???

[Slugbelch]

^:haha: We're all nerds! :cheers:

ENGINEERING THE TALLEST BUILDING/MAN-MADE STRUCTURE IN THE WORLD: BURJ DUBAI PART 2 (https://txspace.tamu.edu/bitstream/1969.1/4529/1/ESL-HH-06-07-19.pdf)

http://aycu09.webshots.com/image/17208/2002179219067124246_rs.jpg

highlights:

Mechanical and Electrical Systems:
Gross area is approx. 312,400sm (3,362,675 sf) above grade, with a total of439,935 sm (4,735,430 sf) including below grade levels. Floor plate sizes range from 3,065 sm (33,000 sf) at the lower (hotel) levels to 380 sm (4,120 sf) at the upper level communication floors. Basement levels at the podium are approx. 35,300 sm (380,000 sf) per level and are designed to accommodate approx. 2,500 cars. The building has a peak cooling load of approx. 13,000 tons of cooling.

Climate Data and General Considerations:
Various climatic issues were investigated concerning an elevation up to 3,280 feet (1,000 meters). Temperature, pressure, and air density were accounted for in the study, in addition to changes in atmospheric composition. It was found that in winter and summer months, a temperature difference of 12 degrees F is expected from the ground level to the study height. This translates into a 20% reduction in sensible cooling required to bring 115 deg. F outside temp. to a standard 55 deg. supply temp. Air pressures and densities will have a 12% difference at the top compared to the bottom. These variations in climate had an impact on motor selection, air cooled equipment selection, and air volume flow rate.

Temperature and Elevation Relationships for Burj Dubai:
In addition to ambient temp., the local atmospheric turbidity can have a significant impact on facade solar loading. Sea-salt aerosols, sand and urban particulate dispersed into the turbulent atmosphereic boundary layer, generally below 1000M in height, resulting in light scattering and a proportional insulation reduction. While the radiation reflected from the ground level to the upper floors would be greatly attenuated by the particulate matter in the lower atmosphere, the contrary effect would occur for the direct solar radiation. Thus, the radiant loads are expected to increase with the height of the 1000M building.

HVAC Design-Water Side:
Cooling water for the complex, as well as a near by mall, is provided by central plants located off site. Two incoming lines from different central plants are provided for redundancy. Due to the extreme temperature, the central plants have ice storage to allow emergency cooling for selected equipment.

Given the height of the building, selecting the maximum equipment pressure available and placing them at strategic locations, 2 heat exchanger loops, one runs express from the Concourse Level to the 75th floor, are designed for the chilled water to reach the top of the building without the use of custom equipment. This eliminates chilled water temperature decay due to additional heat exchangers.

HVAC Design-Air Side:
In the tower, six mechanical zones equipped with centrally treated outside air handling units provide fresh air to the fan coil units located at each floor. Exhaust fans, chilled water pumps and electrical substations are located in the mechanical zones.

While the scale of the project and searing heat encountered during the peak design load present a formidable challenge to developing the buildings air systems, atmospheric conditions further compound the issue. Given the activities, 939,785 CFM of outside air will be required. The centralized outside air systems are enhanced by including 30% washable filters. Architectural slots are specially designed for lower intake air velocities, with sand stopper and drainage for periods of rain.

Due to the hot and humid conditions in the summer, outside air will condensate when exposed to indoor design conditions. Frequently traveled doors are equipped with air lock. An in-depth study was performed to evaluate the double wall pavilion whether indoor or outdoor air should be used to extract the heat in the double wall and minimize the opprtunity of condensation. It was concluded, to minimize condensation the cavity should be vented from the inside. In the event that condensation does occur, it will occur on the outer surface of the outer glass where it will be easy to clean on a regular basis.

Electric Systems:
Burj Dubai as one of the first super-tall buildings in Dubai and was also one of the first projects to distribute 11kV voltage.

Given the 1000m study height of the building and the enviroment, it is likely that lightning will strike the building during its life time. The lightning protection system acts as a Faraday Cage by using the building structural as down conductors. Coper conductor tape locate on parapet and conductor loop in slab at each setback and mechanical floor connected to the rebar. The entire system is connected to the ground conductor inside the building foundation piles. Copper was initially selected as the ground conductior. Subsequent field study indicated the corrosive nature of the soil will erode copper in the ground. Stainless steel was instead selected as the final ground conductor.

Plumbing Systems:
The water available at the site is desalinated sea water from the Persian Gulf. 250,000 gallons of fresh water is required on peak. This incoming water can reach as high 104 deg. F in the summer and a minimum of 68 F in the winter. Therefore, pre-cooling of the water is required in the summer before serving the domestic cold water needs of the building. The building also features a combined domestic and fire water storage tank.

The domestic cold and hot water systems will be gravity fed from the elevated storage tanks. Express water lines carries the water to the 40th floor and distributed to the other tanks above.

The plumbing system is estimated to provide 9.8 million gallons of irrigation water annually, with a maximum of 6,280 cubic feet of water in a single day.

Fire Protection and Life Safety Systems:
Given the enviroment and the height of the building, a "defend in place" approach to fire protection was adopted as the design approach. This approach asserts that, in response to the vertical nature of the building, it is unreasonable and potentially more hazardous to evacuate the building during a state of emergency. Therefore, areas of refuge are provided for throughout the building, respective to occupancy zones. Stairwell pressurization and fire lift vestibule pressurization systems with fire related enclosure are provided for the tower.

The hot and humid climate calls for the inclusion of pressurized "cooled refuges" consisting of spot cooling units maintained on emergency power. A total of 31,050 cubic feet of water storage is available for the tower, or, up to 90 minutes protection for the lower portion of the tower and 30 minutes for the top portion.

Stack Effect and Wind Alarm:
A major challenge is stack effect mitigation. The climate of Dubai, being dominated by the cooling design days, will tend to experience a "reverse stack effect" as a result of thermal buoyancy. The top of the building will develop negative pressure relative to ouside in the summer to pull in exterior air, which will travel down the vertical riser(s), which the major vertical riser is the vertical lift Building Service-1 that connects the ground level to the 138th floor, and exit out of the building in the lower floors.

Burj Dubai has a number of terraces as the building tapers off towards the top. A special study was performed to review the enviromental conditions because of potential of high wind speed and possible stack effect impact to the rest of the building during summer time. Special wind tracker panel displays identifies wind speed and direction is provided at the tower apartments with terraces to alert occupants of the outdoor conditions.

Sustainable Initiatives for the Hot and Humid Climate:
The exterior wall of Burj Dubai is made up of high performance curtain wall system, while the double wall is utilized in the glass pavilions to maintain transparency. The building is naturally ventilated, where possible, including the garage and the spire. Photovoltaic paneling was considered to be placed on the spire to provide electricity; however, was not incorporated due to economic reasons.

Control System:
A DDC system with wireless access capabilities ties the control of all the building systems together. The DDC system will interface with more than 30 other building systems to control the building. This includes a "Life Boat Operation" that allows an operator to use joystick to operate cameras to view the integrity of elevator shafts prior to using the elevator as a means of non-fire related evacuation.

All systems have to work together seamlessly and harmoniously to support the activities in this landmark construction.

[Sky Tower]

You've outnerded me today Slugbelch, thanks for sharing this.....really goes to show the level of inginuity with this build.....and I love the 1km references too! ;)

[Imre]

03/Jun/2007

Burj Dubai

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[Sky Tower]

Apparently they're going to rebuild the Warsaw radio mast as it was before it fell down in 1991 and erect it on top of the BD......so in Poland they can get Radio Warsaw....from Dubai. :haha:

[Imre]

04/Jun/2007

Burj Dubai

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6861/imresolt08yq4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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Burj Dubai Workers

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/921/imresolt16tu1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

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[Imre]

04/Jun/2007


Burj Dubai from the Palm Strips ( Jumeirah Road)

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/3326/imresolt301pa9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

and the weather today , near the Dubai Museum:)

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/5755/imresolt195cw9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Julito-Dubai]

Hey Skytower, when do you update your site?

[Sky Tower]

Erm, been so busy lately....I've kinda been neglecting it huh?
I'll edit it in the next few hours.

**EDIT** Done! ;)

[mariokarter]

^:haha: We're all nerds! :cheers:

Indeed!:cheers: And great link.


Imre, spectacular pics as always!

The building really looks like its coming together and proportioned properly now that the setbacks have caught up. Did anyone else think that it looked wierd, skiiny, and elongated way back when the setbacks wern't caught up? Anyways, its lookin good now. Is that cladding the permanent ones? Will there be those vertical silver lines all over the glass of the building?