HONG KONG | International Commerce Centre | 1,608 FT / 490 M | 118 FLOORS | T/O

[Aboveday]

International Commerce Center ,(490mPD - 118fl - U/C)
環球貿易廣場,环球贸易广场,国際貿易センター,국제 상업 센터,
http://www.shkp-icc.com/

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At a soaring 118-storey height, (高さ484m、地上118階建ての香港一高い),
the International Commerce Centre (ICC) will be Hong Kong's latest distinctive landmark.
Designed by internationally acclaimed architectural firm Kohn Pedersen Fox Associates,
ICC stands for uncompromising design and building quality, and is backed by Hong Kong's leading developer, Sun Hung Kai Properties.
Located at a key Harbour crossing point in West Kowloon, ICC will be the only integrated,
easily accessible Grade-A commercial and retail space along the Kowloon peninsula. ICC offers exceptional transportation
convenience - with commanding views of Hong Kong's distinctive skyline.
ICC encapsulates today's paradigm of modern living - from sumptuous retail locations to luxury boutique residences and
revitalizing green spaces. ICC will be completed in phases from 2007 to 2010. When complete, ICC will comprise of
2.5 million square feet of Grade-A offices, a 1-million square feet shopping mall, luxury residences and serviced apartments -
all accessible via MTRC's new Kowloon Station.

Tenant List(Confirmed):
Morgan Stanley (Asia Pacific Headquarter)
Credit Suisse (Asia Pacific Headquarter)
Deutsche Bank
ABN AMRO
China Haidian
EFG Bank
SNP Vite
Titan Resources

Live Webcam:
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Construction Reaches 102th floor.(April-2008)

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Construction Reaches 100th floor.(Feb-2008)

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Total Floor Area of ICC = (Approx ) 430,000m²

= 83% of Burj Dubai

= 113% of SWFC

= 107.5% of 1 WTC

= 102 % of Sears Tower

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[Fabb]

How tall will phase 6 be ?
According to the model, it looks taller than Sorrento.

[JACKinBeantown]

DO they really need the glass bubble? It seems likie an unnecessary waste to me. I'd rather have open sky above me than a bubble that's not even completely enclosed. It seems like it will get really hot in there in the summer.

[Matace]

Nice one Aboveday, it's great to see some progress on P7 (the hole is MASSIVE). It's a real pity though that the buildings behind are so ugly.

[Fabb]

The Harbourside, right next to US7 is not ugly.
Well, nobody will look at them anyway.

[carfreak01]

US7 was cancelled?(well the one i've known. the beautiful one)

:hell: that sucks, that building was going to be beautiful.

[Islander]

Yep, I definately liked the crystal version better than this box-like shape with some sort of hollow wall structure at the top. It just stinks to build a supertall box these days, when we have the technology to make something awesome. Why do the really nice proposals always have to get changed or cancelled!? Argh.

[PHLguy]

it does have a wall structure now that i see the photos...how high is the actual roof?


when is USP7 to be complete?

[Islander]

I'de personally consider the top of those walls to be the roof. Actually it really depends on how they turn out.

[ztopp]

Originally quoted by ech1368

when is USP7 to be complete?


It will be completed in 2007

[PHLguy]

hmmm...its been u/c over a year and a half now and you cant even tell that a building is U/C there...i know steel rises faster than the base but 2007 seems unbelievably early:uhh:

[ztopp]

^Buildings in most asian countries usually build up real fast due to the strong asian work ethnic. I don't know about north american cities, but you seem surprise that it gets completed in 2007.

[Islander]

Completed in '07? Hah! Maybe topped out.

[PHLguy]

^what i want to know is why all those people said this building is having problems...i sure hope it goes up all the way through...if it ends up like SWFC it will be ashame

[superchan7]

I think the exterior will be finished by mid- to late-2007. In any case, I can't wait :nuts:
Hopefully the developers will pack some more nice surprises or goodies into the building, but I'll be fine with just what's already expected of the building. Union Square has a monstrous presence from ground level...even the Harbourside and Sorrento alone are freakin' massive. It gets me every single time I pass by. And it gets my parents, too, which is a cool bonus :D

[igzaklee]

GUARANTEED US7 in 2007. :yes:


i'm with you superchan-- Harbourside is sooo massive, US7 will be Godzilla!! :eek: :nuts:

see you all there! :D



ps swfc rip

[Fabb]

The tallest tower of Sorrento is amazing.

ps swfc rip ? is it officially cancelled ?

[Swede]

http://netalbum.netvigator.com/photos/2004/03/17/b3331152611050921079527138375.jpg?1079528827467
already th sorrento is taller than anything within 1000 km of me, and look at US7 in comparison to the Sorrento...

<----Jealous:yes:

[Aboveday]

Fabb ,US6 will be taller than 280m,and 291m is the only figure i heard before.

Hey guys,maybe we could have a meeting at the restaurant on the top floor when US7 is completed!:hug:

[JACKinBeantown]

The end of 2007 is 3 years and 8 months away. Plenty of time to finish this building. Look at how fast the ESB went up.

[Fabb]

Fabb ,US6 will be taller than 280m,and 291m is the only figure i heard before.

Hey guys,maybe we could have a meeting at the restaurant on the top floor when US7 is completed!:hug:

Good idea.
I'll try to be there.

[PHLguy]

USP7 ROCKS!!! i love that building sooo much...and its higher than sears tower in every way!

[Islander]

Every way except pinnacle.

[PHLguy]

true...


i still love sears tower though...but USP7 is the worlds new big guy...even ESB would look kinda small next to it! thats one helluva a building!!!

HK KICKS ASS!!!8)

[PHLguy]

This building is HUGE!!!


http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=12&drawingID=15404http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=23&drawingID=15243

[Fabb]

This building is HUGE!!!



That's why I'm skeptical when people say it'll be topped out by 2007.
And it's much bigger than 2IFC too.

[Lecom]

Finally it's beginning to rise over the ground.

[PHLguy]

^what?? no its not...yet

[coth]

This building is HUGE!!!



That's why I'm skeptical when people say it'll be topped out by 2007.
And it's much bigger than 2IFC too.
well, if 800m Burj Dubai still planed to finished in 2006, so it not strange to me if 472m building will be finished in 2007...

[PHLguy]

burj dubai will not finish that fast...and a recent news article stated the building will be less than 800m...around 600-700m to the spire

[Islander]

Yes. Planned to finish means nothing. If we actually knew for a fact it would finish that fast then you can make a comparison. It's pretty obvious whoever thinks they will build a possibly +2,000 foot tower in 2 years is on something, that's for sure...

[some_stupid_nut]

I thought The Burj had a finish date of 2008/2009?!?! 2006? They gotta be kidding!

[InitialD18]

i am pretty sure the twin tower US6 will be over 280+ ... but how much taller no one knows for sure ...

anyone knows how tall is Victory Arch(Phase3) ... i am guessing
240+ ...

US7 will prob be finished by late 2007 ... however tenants won't
settle until 2008 ...

[try 2B funny]

US7 will prob be finished by late 2007 ... however tenants won't
settle until 2008 ...

It will be destroyed by taiwan air force in 2004

[HKT]

US7 will prob be finished by late 2007 ... however tenants won't
settle until 2008 ...

It will be destroyed by taiwan air force in 2004

Possible....:(

Support recount for Lien Chan!

[InitialD18]

why can't chinese just get along with each other ...

[Fabb]

US7 will prob be finished by late 2007 ... however tenants won't
settle until 2008 ...

It will be destroyed by taiwan air force in 2004

There won't be much to destroy in 2004.

[Sher]

why can't chinese just get along with each other ...

They can't even get along in this forum.

[ztopp]

Yes, i support a recount for Lien Chen too!

[Aboveday]

Data of the US7 (initial plan)

102 celling :455m

102 mazzanine : 451M

102/F :445M

Hotel Reception 402m

90/F observation deck :396m

50/F sky lobby :228m

width:65m (G/F) , 55m(102 /F)

*Total number of floor :G/F+103 floors +1 mazzanine +5 floors in the podium.=108 floors+1 mazzanine.

Source: KPF `s elevation

[Fabb]

What is subject to change from this initial plan ?

[henry]

WOW thw Empire State Building looks like a little mid-rise building beside this giant.I cant wait seeing it completet:crazy: :crazy:

[Aboveday]

What is subject to change from this initial plan ?

Because hotel space has triply increased,the hotel lobby and observation deck might have been placed onto other floor.

[Beyond 1000]

Aboveday

What exactly is the mezzanine 102? Will it be a habitable floor for people? I understand that floor 102 or 108 off the street will be a restaurant. If mezzanine 102 is 451 m, then that surpasses CN Tower's Space Deck at 447m, which is higher than floor 102 of US7 which, as you stated, 445m.

[Fabb]

A mezzanine is usually accessible, so, I guess that yes, CN Tower's Space Deck is surpassed.

[Aboveday]

Beyond 1000
the mezzanine would be something like this:

http://netalbum.netvigator.com/photos/2004/03/17/b3331152611053021079527694432.jpg?1080462884761

but i think it is not quite practical....how can people dining on a slope.....:D

[John Hinds]

Why is it sloped?

[some_stupid_nut]

Its not sloped. There are steps. You can see them. There is a table on each step. Look where the floor meets the railing, the white part. You can see the steps.

[ztopp]

When US7 gets completed, i'm going to luggard road to see it from a distance first. It'll definitely be great!!

[Fabb]

It'll be great from pretty much everywhere.
Where is Luggard Road ?

[SanMiguel]

^^^ Lugard Road (only 1x "g" !) is the road around Victoria Peak.
and it's the beginning of Hong Kong Trail as well.

[Matace]

Are there any more recent pictures, how long do you think it will take them to fill the hole with concrete?

[Fabb]

^^^ Lugard Road (only 1x "g" !) is the road around Victoria Peak.

Thanks.
I've been there several times. Now I even know the name...
The view of US will be spectacular indeed.

[Aboveday]

Are there any more recent pictures, how long do you think it will take them to fill the hole with concrete?

I will take some photos on Friday;)

[InitialD18]

Fabb: lugard road has one of the best views ...

[ztopp]

Yes, luggard road has got one of the best views, that's why i'm planning to go there to see US7 from a distance after its completed. I believe US 7 will start rising at the end of May. So keep an eye buddies!! See ya!!

[Matace]

Are there any more recent pictures, how long do you think it will take them to fill the hole with concrete?

I will take some photos on Friday;)

Thanks man, i wish i could be there to see the development in person.

[igzaklee]

us7-- us7-- us7-- :)

[Chad]

Are there any more recent pictures, how long do you think it will take them to fill the hole with concrete?

I will take some photos on Friday;)

I ll be waiting,.............Thanks Man!!...:)

[Chad]

Are there any more recent pictures, how long do you think it will take them to fill the hole with concrete?

I will take some photos on Friday;)

I ll be waiting,.............Thanks Man!!...:)

[coth]

yeah, I'll wait too...

[Aboveday]

Updated photos for Union Square 6 & 7


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Phase 6 North Tower

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Phase 6 South Tower

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Phase 6 South Tower


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Phase 7 Cofferdam ,Foundation is completed,ready to raise.

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The stuffs in the site.

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Digging at the northeast side.

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A moving machine..

The site of Phase 7 is not busy at the moment ,i guess the podium will be constructed first instead of the tower.
The site of both Phase 6 north & south tower is much more busier,machine digging and moving around.

[Matace]

HOORAY!!! It's ready to rise at last! I'm really looking forward to seeing US7 go up, it will be so exciting.

It's a pity though, how much of Union Square seems to be just ugly concrete towers. If they aren't maintained properly they will be a real eye-sore in a few years time. Hasn't Hong Kong learned anything from the past?

[Fabb]

So KPF is just considered as a consultant ? Interesting.

[superchan7]

The Harbourside is already a welcome departure from your typical Hong Kong get-grimy-in-a-few-years concrete apartment building. The Sorrento also looks like it'll hold up fairly well, but the Waterfront (the first to be completed), I don't know. Hong Kong does need some other materials for building exteriors. How about plastic, so all the buildings turn black with soot within a week? :D

[Beyond 1000]

Thanks Aboveday

Is that 451m height an official height?

I guess then CNs reign as highest habitable floor will come to an end. I have been on the CN Tower many times and will be going on it in September. The restaurant of US7 will have a great view looking DOWN on 2IFC.

Too bad they are making the observatory no higher than floor 90. If one day I visit HK, I would make sure I have a reservation on the restaurant to view things from the very top. The main restaurant floor will be 2m higher than the roof of Sears Tower. And the restaurant mezzanine will be 3m higher than the roof of Taipei 101.

This will be a most exciting building.

[Aboveday]

@Beyond 1000
That 451 figure is just a measurement from the KPF elevation,and i think that elevation is out of date now:) .....The final design (floor plan) would be different...

[Chad]

Nice updates.....Thanks a lot Aboveday..;)

[Ekumenopolis]

Is it on time, or delayed?

[Aboveday]

On time.

[Aboveday]

Some pics of The Victory Arch.(4-2004)

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Giant Pant

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Main entrance?

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Podium

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Podium of The HarbourSide

[vvill]

very nice pictures man.

[HKT]

Union Square Phase 7 (Still a Hole...)
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Phase 3 (Front)
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Phase 3 (Rear)
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Harbourside (Front)
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Harbourside (Rear)
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The Waterfront (Rear)
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Sorrento (Rear 1)
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Sorrento (Rear 2)
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PS. West Kowloon Cutural District
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[Aboveday]

nice pics!
the process of US6,7 is so slow....

[Beyond 1000]

The good things will take their sweet time. At the end US7 will rise and eventually fly above 2IFC. The podium will take a bit of time to complete however.

[Insane Alex]

Cant see those pics! :(

[InitialD18]

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It has just been approved ...
US7 will increase 9 more floors ... to 111/f

The Twin Towers US6 will be 60 floors of hotel and service apartment

[Dark357g]

Well thats good news, if its true. would that push the height to 500 meters?

[cas1976]

it's really a good news~

[igzaklee]

wow! great news InitialD!! :)

[R@ptor]

It has just been approved ...
US7 will increase 9 more floors ... to 111/f


With that it would have the most floors in the world topping the 108 floors of the Sears Tower. :crazy:


The 102 floor version was 474m (1555ft) tall, so I guess they want to make this the WTB, at least for a short time, with topping the 508m (1666ft) Taipei101.

[try 2B funny]

It has just been approved ...
US7 will increase 9 more floors ... to 111/f


With that it would have the most floors in the world topping the 108 floors of the Sears Tower. :crazy:

111 stories mean 99 floors in HK

[R@ptor]

111 stories mean 99 floors in HK


:???:

Could you please explain this :???:

[Aboveday]

WHAT????????????????9 MORE FLOORS????????????OMG!BOOM!
GOOD NEWS!!!!!

[Beyond 1000]

How high will US7 be with nine more floors?


Do your math and get an approximate height.

IF assuming the nine added floors are of equal height as the original floors and the top fins stay the same off the main roofline, then a cross multiplication and division will give you the answer.

With the above assumption holding true, (things at the top could be modified), the new height of US7 would be approximately 515.8m or 1691 ft.

Lotta fun, lotta fun. :laugh:

[HforHenry]

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[Aboveday]

Maybe they just decrease the floor celling height to increase more floor...

[-$i-]

It shouldn't be 99 floors, I thought they have same number floors i.e. 30, 30a, 30b, to make up for lost floors?

[Aboveday]

According to the initial elevation,there are 103 floors on the tower,and 5-6 floors inside the podium.

[Fabb]

111 stories mean 99 floors in HK


:???:

Could you please explain this :???:

Easy. You should remove the floors #4, 14, 24... as well as 13 and possibly 40.

[R@ptor]

Easy. You should remove the floors #4, 14, 24... as well as 13 and possibly 40.

Why would someone remove the floors #4,14,24,13 or 40...that's BS.

[vincent]

some newspaper said the height will stay the same. They also said the GFA will stay the same. The-sun news and the propertystreet.net (the one that willie showed us).


the only scenario that i can think of is:
I assume that the GFA can really stay the same. I believe the only way to archieve that is to make an extension of atirum for the hotel section. They got approved to switch large amount of office gfa to hotel gfa sometime ago. But i guess the switched gfa were full floors (no atrium). They can make these full floor to become part of the atrium and move those extra gfa gained from the atrium to put up 9 more floors.
Since the floor-to-floor height for office are much higher than hotel's (typical of 4.5 vs 3m), they can use these difference to pack more floors in and keep the height to stay the same.



btw, i believe 111 floors are not including the floors in podium. According to skyscrapers.com standard, US7 has 117 floors. (6 floors in podium)

[vincent]

111 floors are actually floors i believe. I think a lot of people here already saw the elevation plan of the US7 from the new KPF book. You can count that it has 102 floor above podium and 6 floors at podium (108 above ground floors in total).

[PHLguy]

what is its height in feet? will it top 1600?

[InitialD18]

yeah i think those a,b,c floors compensate those missing floors ...
the final floor count should be 111floors(tower)&6floors(podium)
will there be an increase in overall height or ceiling height???

[PHLguy]

I'm finding this a little hard to beleive, IMO the higher a building gets the more chance there is of a "scale-down":(

[Aboveday]

The old gfa of US7 is 246500m2but some newspaper said that the new gfa is 290000m2...some newspaper said gfa didnt change,some said it did change........................

[Fabb]

yeah i think those a,b,c floors compensate those missing floors ...
the final floor count should be 111floors(tower)&6floors(podium)
will there be an increase in overall height or ceiling height???

If it's really a 111-story building, then it might be another "lesson" to the developers of the new WTC.

[Aboveday]

They could add one more floor to 118-story,a luck number for chinese...

[Beyond 1000]

I'm sure some height increas will happen as a result of an extra nine floors. Original height was 1555 ft ech. With the extra added floors it suggests 1675 ft but if they shorten the floor ratio, the maybe 1600 ft will be surpassed.

This is why perhaps technical information is slow. They were changing the plan again. Hopefully they got it solved and get the building rising above ground soon.

With 117 floors, that is nothing to laugh at. Maybe that extra floor for that lucky number 8 will happen Aboveday.

I also like the design a lot.