Canadian Skyline Thread III

[Xelebes]

This is a continuation of the previous thread (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222250). Please proceed.

[MolsonExport]

yeah, North Battleford, baby!!

https://media.socastsrm.com/wordpress/wp-content/blogs.dir/2225/files/2019/01/gs-nb-skyline-summer-2016-06-09.jpg
socastsrm

[Martin Mtl]

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Photo: https://www.facebook.com/jfsavariaphotographe

[q12]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53199743157_72a8818e8b_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2p45AbZ)Halifax (https://flic.kr/p/2p45AbZ) by Madeleine St-Laurent (https://www.flickr.com/photos/198388189@N04/), on Flickr

https://cdn.realtor.ca/listing/TS638331477061630000/reb107/highres/4/202319414_1.jpg

https://cdn.realtor.ca/listing/TS638331477063670000/reb107/highres/4/202319414_3.jpg

https://cdn.realtor.ca/listing/TS638331477062900000/reb107/highres/4/202319414_2.jpg

Sources: https://www.royallepage.ca/en/property/nova-scotia/halifax/608-1326-lower-water-street/20498244/mls202319414/

[GeneralLeeTPHLS]

Wow, the Alexander no longer dominates this part of downtown as much with that new building going up. Thanks for sharing these.

[MolsonExport]

Love the Gleneagles and Trafalgar apartment buildings (foreground) in Montreal. Our very own Dakota Apartments (NYC).
https://scontent.fymq2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/392931314_1028106378427595_5225470834956608043_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=Jd_CZuibG2sAX8_nw_l&_nc_ht=scontent.fymq2-1.fna&oh=00_AfBLLBquFc7YikkmjVK6J5HY3YFx1IuQ7hD36imI55Svbw&oe=653BA100

a look inside one of the apartments at Gleneagles: https://www.suttonquebec.com/en/inscription/apartment-for-sale-3940-ch-de-la-cote-des-neiges-app-b83-93-montreal-ville-marie-.html?noInscription=11983856&typeInscription=1

[Martin Mtl]

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Photo: https://www.facebook.com/MTLcentreville

[TorontoDrew]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53238836032_e9b98a2d1a_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2p7wX95)Fog filled skyline (https://flic.kr/p/2p7wX95) by Phil Marion (219 million views) (https://www.flickr.com/photos/phil_marion/), on Flickr

[Coldrsx]

https://cdn.realtor.ca/listing/TS638314366488870000/reb10/highres/4/E4360034_42.jpg
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/26109983/10257-89-st-nw-nw-edmonton-riverdale?view=imagelist

https://cdn.realtor.ca/listing/TS638314366488870000/reb10/highres/4/E4360034_40.jpg
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/26109983/10257-89-st-nw-nw-edmonton-riverdale?view=imagelist

UofA and western skyline
https://cdn.realtor.ca/listing/TS638262742262600000/reb10/highres/3/E4352173_29.jpg

https://cdn.realtor.ca/listing/TS638262742262600000/reb10/highres/3/E4352173_2.jpg
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/25891157/1802-11027-87-av-nw-edmonton-garneau?view=imagelist

[le calmar]

Great pics. The built form in the first Edmonton pic, so close to the skyline, is kinda surprising. Not so much the fact that there’s SFH there, because you’ll also find SFH in Westmount just outside those Mtl pics above. It’s more the built quality and overall aspect that I find surprising. Edmonton’s version of Calgary’s shacks? Looks like the kind of stuff you’d typically find very far out in the suburbs.

Great potential for intensification there however. I imagine in the future it’s eventually going to look more like the last picture.

[J.OT13]

Those sfh look more 70s as opposed to modern mcmansions of the far out suburbs. Kind of look like Vancouver Specials.

[TimB09]

Those sfh look more 70s as opposed to modern mcmansions of the far out suburbs. Kind of look like Vancouver Specials.

Yeah, that's the Riverdale area of Edmonton. An established, older neighborhood in our city. With our new zoning bylaws passed, I expect this will be one of the neighborhoods changing it's look.

[Hawrylyshyn]

Hamilton, ON

https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attachments/5-png.515386/
https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/attachments/6-png.515387/
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[le calmar]

Those sfh look more 70s as opposed to modern mcmansions of the far out suburbs. Kind of look like Vancouver Specials.

Good point. I had an older part of Stittsville in mind when I typed this, but the area around Stittsville Main St. is quite mature and you’ll find similar built form closer to the core. It’s like an Alta Vista, only much closer to the downtown core. But it’s not quite Alta Vista either, it’s a little more eclectic.

[Echoes]

Poor quality, but a good view overall. (And I can see my house!)

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https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10168305262325074&set=gm.537708278551437&idorvanity=360702462918687

[zoomer]

Really photogenic and fresh perspectives of Edmonton - nice! Lots to pour over there. Nice to see the newer towers making their presence known in Hamilton and I don’t think I haven’t seen such a wide perspective of Saskatoon in quite a while. Echoes how recent is that pic? I don’t see Baydo popping up unless I’m looking in the wrong spot. Rivers Landing also really stands out - great development. Also what’s the mid-rise neighbourhood across the bridge in the foreground, looks to be an up and coming area? Finally is it me or are the roads in the foreground insanely wide for what’s needed (yes the grassy median makes it wider)?

[Echoes]

Hey Zoomer, that pic would be from earlier this fall. It's blurry but Baydo is there.

In the foreground is the Broadway District/Nutana neighbourhood. It is by most measures the more successful "urban" mixed-use area than Downtown, and a few of those buildings are new within the last 5 years. The majority of development proposals are in that area right now, so the Nutana "skyline" could really transform in the coming years.

Yes, those roads are wide! They were surveyed by the Temperance Colonists who established Saskatoon in the Broadway area in the 1880s. They had puritanical town planning ideas and believed that generous streets, access to light, greenery, and open space would prevent societal ills. The treed medians make for some really lovely and desirable streets today.

[Acajack]

Poor quality, but a good view overall. (And I can see my house!)

https://scontent.fyqr2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/392875653_10168305262320074_5450944020390140763_n.jpg?stp=cp6_dst-jpg&_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_ohc=kz52qaG4_yMAX_sBOtH&_nc_ht=scontent.fyqr2-1.fna&oh=00_AfDcVHbAS8v4btLsoNwGYmNWDn9wGAU79abgWJF_9fOlAQ&oe=653E9B9B
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=10168305262325074&set=gm.537708278551437&idorvanity=360702462918687

Am I the only one who finds the city seems to "end" a fairly short distance from downtown?

I'd expect a North American metro of over 300,000 people to sprawl out a lot more, especially on the Prairies.

[Echoes]

You may partially get that impression from the open land in the upper left of the photo, which is the airport.

[zoomer]

That photo got me looking at Google Earth and you can really see how much light industrial exists by the airport - I’m guessing it has to be right up there in terms of % of land devoted to light industrial. Makes sense considering the all the industries that require that land use from transportation, agriculture, mining, etc.

I tried using the measure tool in Google Earth, but the numbers shown on the yellow line are totally different from the menu results. It looks like Saskatoon is roughly 15 km by 15 km, yet the yellow line says about 21 by 21. Hmm.

[phone]

I've noticed that effect to, particularly when looking to the north and south (this picture faces north). The city has a somewhat more prominent E-W alignment than N-S, but the main reasons is that downtown is located near the middle of the city as opposed to abutting a geographic obstacle, and 300,000 just isn't that big of a city.

[phone]

I tried using the measure tool in Google Earth, but the numbers shown on the yellow line are totally different from the menu results. It looks like Saskatoon is roughly 15 km by 15 km, yet the yellow line says about 21 by 21. Hmm.

If you were to draw a quadrilateral around Saskatoon it would be an approximate square, but there is more bulk going east and west, with a bit of a northern "chimney" that doesn't fill out the quarters of the square.

https://i.imgur.com/LER9BsE.png

[Acajack]

Thanks guys!

[Martin Mtl]

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Photo: https://www.facebook.com/jfsavariaphotographe

[MolsonExport]

It is good that the foreground of Montreal, by the river, wasn't blocked off by a wall of substandard concrete/glass monoliths (a la Harbourfont centre in TO). There are plenty of buildings, but they rise in height gradually, and don't block the views of the classic 1960s international towers.

https://dynamic-media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-o/08/92/10/e6/the-westin-harbour-castle.jpg?w=700&h=-1&s=1
:yuck: :runaway:

[Hawrylyshyn]

^Toronto's waterfront is truly one of the biggest disappointments of the city

[Zeej]

^Toronto's waterfront is truly one of the biggest disappointments of the city

Yes. I hate to say it, having enjoyed living in Toronto for 6 years and having worked directly on the waterfront for 3, but it's by and large a failure.

I was just in Chicago and the difference is profound.

I was also in Milwaukee.... it makes far better use of its waterfront.

It's disappointing that a 5th tier American city had the vision to program its waterfront with generous green space and civic/cultural institutions, whereas our premier city decided to largely privatize theirs. Perhaps Milwaukee was just copying its big brother 1.5 hours away, but the results still speak for themselves.

A truly wasted opportunity.

[someone123]

New webcam showing Halifax Harbour. It pans back and forth, going from Dartmouth over to the North End of Halifax and back:

https://www.novascotiawebcams.com/webcams/halifax-waterfront

[niwell]

I've been to Chicago over a dozen times and confess I don't really get the fawning over the waterfront. It's fine, but after visiting a few times I didn't see the point of going back - like Toronto the best parts of the city aren't really near the water at all. The best feature is the multi-use path system for cycling but it's also largely separated from neighbourhoods by Lakeshore Drive complete with some pretty uninviting underpasses.

People tend to focus on the brief stretch of Toronto's waterfront redeveloped in the 70s but most of the central portion is in fact publicly accessible (minus the Redpath factory), and the pathway system runs uninterrupted from Mimico to the RC Harris Filtration plant. Plus a massive amount of new public space as the Port Lands begins to come on-line. Gets a lot of flak (some deserved) but actually fairly impressive considering the entirety of the Central Waterfront was reclaimed land intended for industrial uses in the 1920s.

[softee]

For being such a failure, Toronto's central waterfront sure is jam-packed with people enjoying themselves in the warm weather months!

[suburbanite]

I've been to Chicago over a dozen times and confess I don't really get the fawning over the waterfront. It's fine, but after visiting a few times I didn't see the point of going back - like Toronto the best parts of the city aren't really near the water at all. The best feature is the multi-use path system for cycling but it's also largely separated from neighbourhoods by Lakeshore Drive complete with some pretty uninviting underpasses.

People tend to focus on the brief stretch of Toronto's waterfront redeveloped in the 70s but most of the central portion is in fact publicly accessible (minus the Redpath factory), and the pathway system runs uninterrupted from Mimico to the RC Harris Filtration plant. Plus a massive amount of new public space as the Port Lands begins to come on-line. Gets a lot of flak (some deserved) but actually fairly impressive considering the entirety of the Central Waterfront was reclaimed land intended for industrial uses in the 1920s.

Chicago's waterfront is undoubtedly grander in that late 19th, early 20th century scale that Canadian cities don't have in significant quantities. It makes a good impression on Google Maps and for someone experiencing the city for the first time visiting the waterfront as a tourist destination. That being said, due to the reasons you mentioned, if I lived in Chicago I doubt I would be walking right along the water very often. Whereas in Toronto, I will happily walk along the boardwalk/Queens Quay to go to a volleyball game at The Docks, to a concert at the Amphitheatre, sit on the patio at Amsterdam Brewery, etc.

I don't have enough experience in Chicago to make such a definitive claim, but my gut feeling is that Chicago's waterfront is a better showpiece, while Toronto's is a more functional interactive place for the people who actually live there. That being said, a historically revisionist dream scenario would include a waterfront showpiece, something like if Coronation Park ran all the way from Ontario Place to Spadina with grand walkways and ornamentation ala Millenium Park. Some will claim that is the void that the Port Lands will fill, and we'll have to wait and see, but I get the feeling that that too will more of a functional space with weekend bicyclists and Cherry Beach goers (which is still a good thing in my mind).

[niwell]

^That's a good summary I think. Though I will note that Chicago's is more on the functional side as well once you leave downtown, though the Beaches probably beats it in accessibility. Grant/Millennium Park is a showpiece that honestly doesn't have a lot going on most of the time.

I wasn't counting it but Chicago's Riverwalk in the Loop is amazing.

[TorontoDrew]

It is good that the foreground of Montreal, by the river, wasn't blocked off by a wall of substandard concrete/glass monoliths (a la Harbourfont centre in TO). There are plenty of buildings, but they rise in height gradually, and don't block the views of the classic 1960s international towers.

https://dynamic-media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-o/08/92/10/e6/the-westin-harbour-castle.jpg?w=700&h=-1&s=1
:yuck: :runaway:

This was an issue 20 years ago, not so much anymore. Also some of Montreals best classic office towers are being blocked out now by new glass condos from certain views as well.Toronto's waterfront is a work in progress and when complete it might be one of the best on the continent.

[MonkeyRonin]

Chicago must have the most overrated waterfront of all time. Grant Park looks great from the skyline shots, but at street level is too chopped up by major roads and lacks much of interest - Central Park on the water it ain't. The beachside residential neighbourhoods are better, but are still too cut off from the water by Lakeshore Drive. The best interface with the water is in more peripheral areas like Rogers Park and Evanston. The riverfront is really cool though, and certainly unique. 


Toronto's waterfront has come a long way in being stitched into the fabric of the city, and the actual water's edge is good enough; but given that the central waterfront consists of late 20th-century/early 21st-century development on landfill it will probably always be the core's least interesting neighbourhood. Like Chicago, the peripheral beachfront residential neighbourhoods are better, but it also has the problem of being cut off in the west end by the Gardiner. Its best & most unique waterfront "feature" are probably the islands. 

[MolsonExport]

I wish that Toronto had something like Chicago's riverwalk. The views are stunning.

[Nouvellecosse]

The issue with the central Toronto waterfront (from say, the Billy Bishop tunnel to the Keating Channel) is that much of it is ugly or bland rather than it lacking general functionality or amenities. And while aesthetics are important, it's still just one of several important aspects of urban settings. But with that said, it isn't that ugly; it's just uglier than one would want from an important and highly visible "showcase" area.

[WhipperSnapper]

First impression of the waterfront from visitors is crossing under the Gardiner and then of Harbour Square; a fortress with an open air parking structure on the lake side Second, the wall of condos argument has been drill into native Toronto since Harbour Square was the only condo complex leading to even the biggest skyscraper enthusiasts having NIMBY tendencies towards the built up urban harbourfront.

There's nothing exciting architecturally. There's nothing ugly either. On the plus side, It is a meeting place and more than a place to go for a walk or jog.

Comparing an urban riverfront to a waterfront is a losing proposition. The waterfront has one side and therefore everyone leans towards greenery. In any case, IMHO, the greatest lake/oceanfront can't beat Milwaukee's riverfront and that's not saying Milwaukee's riverfront is the undeniable frontrunner for riverfronts in the US.

Surely a drone launch in Harbourfront with some elevation could replicate the shot over Montreal's post 2000 condo communities .

[Coldrsx]

I miss summer already.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F3N9LbBawAAfmae?format=jpg&name=large
https://twitter.com/aimeok/status/1689831927841452032

[Rico Rommheim]

Whoa!

[Rico Rommheim]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53280953010_9764ff3caf_b.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pbfP3S)Montreal skyline (https://flic.kr/p/2pbfP3S) by -Yaz- (https://www.flickr.com/photos/168353132@N02/), on Flickr

[ssiguy]

The old 1970s area of the Toronto Waterfront is rather bland but the newer areas they are developing are fantastic and true people places and not just a cycle/walk path. It is interactive with great public art and amenities. It's very dynamic place with lots to discover and will only get better. I think it is slowly turning into a masterpiece.

Vancouver's Waterfront in the core of the city is a true lost opportunity. Yes, it has wonderful views and has good pathways and bike infrastructure but that is about it and it's particularly bad along West Harbour which is actually the newest area. It's pretty and functional but also quite bland. There is nothing dynamic or even interesting about it. It is just a pathway in front of condos that no one in the city can afford. It could have been so much more of a people focused area but, like all of Vancouver, it was built as nothing more than a condo development with a sidewalk in front of it. It's a very nice walk but that's all it is.

[Nite]

Toronto

https://i.postimg.cc/XqF2dC7r/41-Toronto-Canada-The-Ultimate-Travel-Guide-00-00-00.png

[davidivivid]

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https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=713280427488165&set=a.453871693429041

[P'tit Renard]

For being such a failure, Toronto's central waterfront sure is jam-packed with people enjoying themselves in the warm weather months!

It's one of the few areas downtown with a relatively attractive public realm and wide sidewalks/bike paths that extends beyond a park. It's proof that investing in the public realm is worth it, even if the area's architecture leaves much to be desired.

[Nouvellecosse]

The bike path is easily one of - if not the - busiest in town, at least during warmer times of year.

[905er]

love the classic Quebec city skyline pic... for some reason, despite that cluster of buildings not being particularly attractive... it somehow works... I love it.. more Quebec City pics.. thank you davidivivid!!:tup:

[harls]

Toronto

https://i.postimg.cc/XqF2dC7r/41-Toronto-Canada-The-Ultimate-Travel-Guide-00-00-00.png

Looks almost as blue as Nite's avatar.

[P'tit Renard]

The bike path is easily one of - if not the - busiest in town, at least during warmer times of year.

It's also one of the most frustrating bike paths to bike on in urban Canada. Even though the bike path is skinny and barely sufficient for the area's bike traffic volume, the path is designated as a multi-use path that allows for joggers and other users to 'share' the space. The end result is a jumbled mess between Jarvis and Spadina, and makes it an unreliable route during the summer, especially on weekends.

Though, it is reflective of the poorly thought out road/street planning you see everywhere in downtown Toronto, and the free-for-all mélange and insufficient capacity is very typical Torontonian.

[Martin Mtl]

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Photo: https://www.facebook.com/francis.lemarquand

[WhipperSnapper]

It's also one of the most frustrating bike paths to bike on in urban Canada. Even though the bike path is skinny and barely sufficient for the area's bike traffic volume, the path is designated as a multi-use path that allows for joggers and other users to 'share' the space. The end result is a jumbled mess between Jarvis and Spadina, and makes it an unreliable route during the summer, especially on weekends.

Though, it is reflective of the poorly thought out road/street planning you see everywhere in downtown Toronto, and the free-for-all mélange and insufficient capacity is very typical Torontonian.

Well, it is a multi-use trail and was sufficient for the 1980s when it was built with, of course, large sections missing for decades afterwards. Insufficient capacities are only going to get worse. Growing up with situations like a waterfront trail with sections missing and in the worst possible places makes you adaptively flexible.

[KnoxfordGuy]

Great shot of the city from the CN Tower webcam this Halloween!

http://i.imgur.com/C3tfKpo.jpeg

[Rico Rommheim]

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(https://flic.kr/p/2pcYrhz)DSC01048 (https://flic.kr/p/2pcYrhz) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

[TorontoDrew]

https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhA9Fdxa9ZvWNWn_VljkKKIGCCepqzGCAyobr5TUcsc3q-6djGVD6z4f-s4SdgIowQQsxYlY_H7_UVtaEHq1eGETBIaSlr6ehOG8PDuLPdvBKBC0v6ilEHE_Bn1ERoiT19pMkyzB9_Ov_NzoWkBHjPu7kQK1OwRPW0j7Nnb9o_e5aJizIa8lWo2WexFQDE/s1702/391696908_713280424154832_5223465756913381177_n.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=713280427488165&set=a.453871693429041

Neat angle David. Is the the train station on the right hand side? I've always wanted to see it in person.

[WhipperSnapper]

I didn't see that building. All I see is this giant empty data centre.

Something looks off on the windows of the Chateau style building. If they aren't original than they are really shitty replacements.

edit. I looked it up

It's just the image. Can't say if the windows are original or not and that typically means they are good to go.

[Masoliantekw]

I didn't see that building. All I see is this giant empty data centre.

This building (Fasken) has just been built.

[WhipperSnapper]

Likewise, I don't see a corporate law firm occupying a data centre.

[vanatox]

Likewise, I don't see a corporate law firm occupying a data centre.

This is an office building, not a data centre...

[WhipperSnapper]

Exactly

The facts didn't mattered when I made my first post. It looks like a data centre and the floors are empty

[Rico Rommheim]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53302522361_a93968e10d_b.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pdamSe)DSC00895 (https://flic.kr/p/2pdamSe) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53301661267_bc632a62d9_b.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pd5WTM)DSC00925 (https://flic.kr/p/2pd5WTM) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53302520681_13ee3d3da9_b.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pdamng)DSC00927 (https://flic.kr/p/2pdamng) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53302894889_305d89a3f3_b.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pdcgB8)DSC00846 (https://flic.kr/p/2pdcgB8) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53302521101_fd742fae54_b.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pdamuv)DSC00932 (https://flic.kr/p/2pdamuv) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53302522431_f1fb847431_b.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pdamTr)DSC00894 (https://flic.kr/p/2pdamTr) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53302523251_fbdf8a68d9_b.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pdan8z)DSC00832 (https://flic.kr/p/2pdan8z) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53302767263_c82726a421_b.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pdbBEF)DSC00928 (https://flic.kr/p/2pdbBEF) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

[Coldrsx]

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/D5622AQFC4T4-ffcLZQ/feedshare-shrink_2048_1536/0/1698694575060?e=1701907200&v=beta&t=tEsvwqo5mdeSUWch21J-Z--K8uWv205VPHkstFlV_rU

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ian-m-b8361b2b?miniProfileUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afs_miniProfile%3AACoAAAZSGdMBSng1MzOpH5tN5m0zvv29W3SGSYE&lipi=urn%3Ali%3Apage%3Ad_flagship3_feed%3BywEMmPNZS7WJXQrrokYH1w%3D%3D

[LFC]

Kelowna through the vineyards

https://i.imgur.com/g8au9Cc.png

https://www.reddit.com/r/kelowna/comments/17n0kyn/fall_colors_from_tantalus/

[Arrdeeharharharbour]

Great shot!

[Rico Rommheim]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53305268259_9a380d835a_h.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pdpr8i)DSC01044 (https://flic.kr/p/2pdpr8i) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53304896626_bbfe1447f5_h.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pdnwDQ)DSC01043 (https://flic.kr/p/2pdnwDQ) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53304897381_b63ba49834_h.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pdnwSR)DSC01041 (https://flic.kr/p/2pdnwSR) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53304897101_5ecf7d905f_h.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pdnwN2)DSC01039 (https://flic.kr/p/2pdnwN2) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53305379260_3cad26cd58_h.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pdq187)DSC01038 (https://flic.kr/p/2pdq187) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53305146703_0ca21c3625_h.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pdoNZv)DSC01035 (https://flic.kr/p/2pdoNZv) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53305268244_cc91ab1346_h.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pdpr83)DSC01036 (https://flic.kr/p/2pdpr83) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53304898876_06de638feb_h.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pdnxjC)DSC01037 (https://flic.kr/p/2pdnxjC) by Foofoo MacShoe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190455246@N07/), on Flickr

[giallo]

Beautiful shots, Rico!

[GeneralLeeTPHLS]

Beautiful images. Those (hills?) are really cool to see as a backdrop to the skyline.
I think DSC01036 may be my favourite of the set, it almost reminds me of LA in a way where the most notable core buildings are clustered with a bit of a step-back happening in a radial manner. It's a poor reference to another city that couldn't be more different from Montreal, but perhaps theres some loose merit in it.

[Coldrsx]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F9nlMhxb0AAqlCz?format=jpg&name=large
https://twitter.com/kmoorephotos/status/1718656742035538326

[Tvisforme]

Kelowna through the vineyards

https://i.imgur.com/g8au9Cc.png

https://www.reddit.com/r/kelowna/comments/17n0kyn/fall_colors_from_tantalus/

Beautiful, and also a reminder of the summer fires!

[WhipperSnapper]

Beautiful indeed however, it's one in which you want to remove that blob of human intervention. IMHO, it's a horrible skyline shot.

[someone123]

Halifax seen from Dartmouth

https://i.imgur.com/zrJTU2A.jpg
Source (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=914000616757045)

[Coldrsx]

Victoria-esque.

[Nouvellecosse]

^ While the two aren't similar, if they were Victoria would be Halifax-esque rather than vice-versa considering it's the older and larger of the two

[Coldrsx]

Both harbour/water cities with small-ish skylines, character places and significant tourist draws... I'd say very similar.

When I looked at that, I thought far more Victoria than Halifax and so I stand by my comment.

[Nouvellecosse]

Both harbour/water cities with small-ish skylines, character places and significant tourist draws... I'd say very similar.

When I looked at that, I thought far more Victoria than Halifax and so I stand by my comment.

Halifax does not have a smallish skyline for its population, and the other traits are the most basic of details that countless cities share. Although I realize when people make these silly type of superficial comparisons they generally know it annoys people and are just trying to provoke. So I shouldn't take the bait. :rolleyes:

[giallo]

How is saying that 'Halifax looks like Victoria from that angle' provocative? The two cities look nothing alike, but I can definitely see where Coldrsx was coming from with his comparison.

[Nouvellecosse]

How is saying that 'Halifax looks like Victoria from that angle' provocative? The two cities look nothing alike, but I can definitely see where Coldrsx was coming from with his comparison.

It's provocative because there's been a lot of discussion on the topic on here over the years and people from Halifax including Someone123 and me have explained why it doesn't make sense numerous times. And while I can't speak for anyone else, I think I've made it clear how annoying I find it. So it's hard to believe that a person who's been here long enough to know all that would make a comment that says nothing about the image other than an irritating reference to another city would be intended to do anything other than irritate.

Plus, the convention for saying that one thing resembles another has long been that the original, larger, or otherwise more prominent of the two does is not the one that "resembles" the smaller, newer or less prominent. So saying "Well I thought of the smaller/newer thing when looking at the larger/older one" just tends to mean one is more familiar with the smaller/newer one. But that's a characteristic of the person making the comparison rather than of the things being compared. So it's irrelevant.

[Coldrsx]

There is no provocation involved, simply a comparison.

This is not the angle I wanted, but you can see where I draw comparisons from.

https://cdn.realtor.ca/listing/TS638340326654200000/reb3/highres/1/947161_5.jpg
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/26223440/220-michigan-st-victoria-james-bay?view=imagelist

[Nouvellecosse]

^ That definitely helps to illustrate how different the cities are. The Victoria picture above was taken less than 1/2 km from the harbour from within the official limits of downtown, while the Halifax image was taken from nearly 5km from downtown and nearly 3km from the closest part of the harbour (which is barely visible in the photo). A picture taken that distance from downtown Halifax would look completely different.

But I accept that the annoyance was unintentional.

[ScreamingViking]

https://cdn.realtor.ca/listing/TS638340326654200000/reb3/highres/1/947161_5.jpg
https://www.realtor.ca/real-estate/26223440/220-michigan-st-victoria-james-bay?view=imagelist

That fleshy-toned house in the foreground is a wee bit creepy.

[logan5]

Plus, the convention for saying that one thing resembles another has long been that the original, larger, or otherwise more prominent of the two does is not the one that "resembles" the smaller, newer or less prominent. So saying "Well I thought of the smaller/newer thing when looking at the larger/older one" just tends to mean one is more familiar with the smaller/newer one. But that's a characteristic of the person making the comparison rather than of the things being compared. So it's irrelevant.

At the risk of being annoying, but is Halifax larger than Victoria?

The Capital Region (Victoria) has a population of 415 451 over an area of 2340 sq km's. Halifax Regional Municipality has a population of 439,819 over an area of 5,475.57 sq km's. That's a larger population, but in an area that is over twice the size of the Capital Region. If you were to expand the Capital Region to the same area as Halifax Municipality, you would be taking in Nanaimo, which is 115 000 people, and the areas in between - about 600 000 people.

For urban area, Victoria - 397 237/215.88 sq km's. Halifax - 348 634/238.29 sq km's.

An good case could be made for Victoria actually being the bigger city. (Sorry. I get caught up on numbers too much probly).

[MattBerryOfficial]

It's provocative because there's been a lot of discussion on the topic on here over the years and people from Halifax including Someone123 and me have explained why it doesn't make sense numerous times. And while I can't speak for anyone else, I think I've made it clear how annoying I find it. So it's hard to believe that a person who's been here long enough to know all that would make a comment that says nothing about the image other than an irritating reference to another city would be intended to do anything other than irritate.

Plus, the convention for saying that one thing resembles another has long been that the original, larger, or otherwise more prominent of the two does is not the one that "resembles" the smaller, newer or less prominent. So saying "Well I thought of the smaller/newer thing when looking at the larger/older one" just tends to mean one is more familiar with the smaller/newer one. But that's a characteristic of the person making the comparison rather than of the things being compared. So it's irrelevant.

Go touch grass.

[Nouvellecosse]

At the risk of being annoying, but is Halifax larger than Victoria?

The Capital Region (Victoria) has a population of 415 451 over an area of 2340 sq km's. Halifax Regional Municipality has a population of 439,819 over an area of 5,475.57 sq km's. That's a larger population, but in an area that is over twice the size of the Capital Region. If you were to expand the Capital Region to the same area as Halifax Municipality, you would be taking in Nanaimo, which is 115 000 people, and the areas in between - about 600 000 people.

For urban area, Victoria - 397 237/215.88 sq km's. Halifax - 348 634/238.29 sq km's.

An good case could be made for Victoria actually being the bigger city. (Sorry. I get caught up on numbers too much probly).


The Halifax regional municipality isn't terribly relevant to population size as it is a city proper based on the county and not on the city. It covers a huge amount of rural and wilderness area but because of the shape doesn't actually capture all of the CMA. Although I'm not sure of the differences in the urban areas as I've never directly compared them.

[Nouvellecosse]

Go touch grass.

Thank you for your incredibly productive contribution. :rolleyes:

[MattBerryOfficial]

Thank you for your incredibly productive contribution. :rolleyes:

Based on your bizarre irritation at a reasonable comparison of two coastal cities of 400k people, I do think you need to take a break from the internet.

[MattBerryOfficial]

Having spent plenty of time in both Victoria and Halifax, I think that both cities are very similar. Scenic, medium (for Canada) sized cities. Decent tourism draws. Good old bones for cities there size (Halifax somewhat moreso). Its a good comparison and it never ceases to amaze me what people find annoying on this strange site lol.

[Nouvellecosse]

You're certainly welcome to your opinion.

Based on your bizarre irritation at a reasonable comparison of two coastal cities of 400k people, I do think you need to take a break from the internet.

Often times things that are hard to understand when taken on their own without any context make more sense once properly situated. A clue in this case would be the many discussions and comments over the years that I mentioned. Obviously I didn't get irritated based on hearing the comparison for the first time. That said, I'm not interested in your advice about my internet usage as it's none of your business.

[MattBerryOfficial]

You're certainly welcome to your opinion.



Often times things that are hard to understand when taken on their own without any context make more sense once properly situated. A clue in this case would be the many discussions and comments over the years that I mentioned. Obviously I didn't get irritated based on hearing the comparison for the first time. That said, I'm not interested in your advice about my internet usage as it's none of your business.

Not sure why you are pretending you were not annoyed initially? You literally said that those kind of comparisons are made to get a rise out of people. You clearly were irritated lol. Obviously you think you are too smart by half and wont take advice, but I will give it again, go outside.

[WhipperSnapper]

Having spent plenty of time in both Victoria and Halifax, I think that both cities are very similar. Scenic, medium (for Canada) sized cities. Decent tourism draws. Good old bones for cities there size (Halifax somewhat moreso). Its a good comparison and it never ceases to amaze me what people find annoying on this strange site lol.

Scenic, medium sized and, decent tourist draw. That's some insight. Learned alot.

You're new. For anyone else, this comparison has been done to ad nauseam and the commonalities typically centre on commonplace superficialities like ocean harbour, similar population and tourism. It's like when some mediocre condo is compared to global architecture because the architectural theme shares similarities. It can be amusing or annoying or both.

All things considered, Cold's Victoresque comment for the specific photo was fairer than most of his comparisons ( and he is always creating comparisons)

[Nouvellecosse]

Not sure why you are pretending you were not annoyed initially? You literally said that those kind of comparisons are made to get a rise out of people. You clearly were irritated lol. Obviously you think you are too smart by half and wont take advice, but I will give it again, go outside.

I disagreed with the comparison the first time I heard it (easily over a decade ago) but no, I don't get annoyed by something simply because I disagree with it. I just explain why I disagree and offer a counter argument. And unless you were present then you have no basis to claim otherwise.

As for your advice, if I had the same series of conversations about the topic in person I wouldn't feel any more or less annoyed than with it being online. So the internet has nothing to do with it. Which of course you'd have no way of knowing since we don't know each other. That's why I'm not interested in advice from you specifically rather than in general. You're not in any position to offer relevant advice to me without knowing anything about me. And I have no reason to respect advice from you for the same reason.

[zoomer]

Halifax seen from Dartmouth

https://i.imgur.com/zrJTU2A.jpg
Source (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=914000616757045)

Yah, when I was scrolling down that my first thought at first - looks like Victoria from certain angles. Nothing wrong with Coldsrx stating that, and hopefully it should be seen as a huge compliment to Halifax, no? It would be if stated the other way. Doesn't mean that the cities are the same or that one is better the other.

An old picture from Flickr from much further out than 0.5 km, but you can see what Coldsrx is talking about:

https://live.staticflickr.com/8484/28652116144_3eb617e9c5_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/KDTzUu)Victoria, BC (https://flic.kr/p/KDTzUu) by Benjamin Schnetzler (https://www.flickr.com/photos/146690878@N08/), on Flickr

and a couple more:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52967824763_cd1d2503de_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2oGzWVZ)Victoria and Mt. Baker on a perfect Day (https://flic.kr/p/2oGzWVZ) by Lindsay Mac (https://www.flickr.com/photos/107140314@N02/), on Flickr

Also an older picture of Halifax, but the skyline pics we normally see here are from this angle - which looks nothing like Victoria. Now if a Victoria photo was posted that looked like this (not possible) then we could say it was Halifaxesque.

https://live.staticflickr.com/1903/45467620502_ffec28ee69_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2cgPrvq)Halifax Skyline-2 (https://flic.kr/p/2cgPrvq) by Aussie2504 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/136316323@N02/), on Flickr

[q12]

At the risk of being annoying, but is Halifax larger than Victoria?

Yes, Halifax's population estimates for 2023 is likely to be over 500,000 as the CMA is projected to have added 30,000 people in the past year above the 2022 estimate of 480,000.

Surrounding Halifax's urban and suburban core there are around 700,000 residents (within a one hour drive from the edge of the urban core all connected by freeway):

https://jrta.ca/app/uploads/2023/05/Study-Area-v1.0-1280x1005.jpg

[Rico Rommheim]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53312437399_e6db3c8df5_h.jpg
(https://flic.kr/p/2pe3bga)Montreal Skyline (https://flic.kr/p/2pe3bga) by Dominic Labbe (https://www.flickr.com/photos/pegase1972/), on Flickr

[logan5]

That's a bit vague. Can you add some Victoria numbers? I would imagine Victoria grew as well.

[MattBerryOfficial]

Scenic, medium sized and, decent tourist draw. That's some insight. Learned alot.

You're new. For anyone else, this comparison has been done to ad nauseam and the commonalities typically centre on commonplace superficialities like ocean harbour, similar population and tourism. It's like when some mediocre condo is compared to global architecture because the architectural theme shares similarities. It can be amusing or annoying or both.

All things considered, Cold's Victoresque comment for the specific photo was fairer than most of his comparisons ( and he is always creating comparisons)

I appreciate the condescending tone whipper. Great online persona you have. Gotta love internet culture, each corner has its gatekeepers. Seems I have found one of this websites. I suppose if you talk in circles for decades on a dusty forum sharing tens of thousands of comments you must get irritated by people discussing something that you have seen before.

[logan5]

Lol. You are relentless. How many forums have you been banned from?

[q12]

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53304147516_025ce743d1_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2pdiFY9)Nova Scotia - Halifax waterfront (https://flic.kr/p/2pdiFY9) by Graham Hart (https://www.flickr.com/photos/133320179@N02/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53208750869_1854f320ef_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2p4SKSn)Halifax (https://flic.kr/p/2p4SKSn) by Henry Dowling (https://www.flickr.com/photos/asleepinstars/), on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53262215862_7068507253_h.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/2p9AM9A)Hello Halifax NS (https://flic.kr/p/2p9AM9A) by Randy Officer (https://www.flickr.com/photos/199358946@N06/), on Flickr

https://i.postimg.cc/CwWbZHXf/skyline4.png
by nadonou on Flickr https://flic.kr/p/2p1vVuv

https://i.postimg.cc/cxWYh1sx/skyline3.png
by nadonou on Flickr https://flic.kr/p/2p1vVuv

https://i.postimg.cc/2rg1Tjws/skyline1.png
by nadonou on Flickr https://flic.kr/p/2p1vVuv

https://i.postimg.cc/y6YRqfg2/skyline2.png
by nadonou on Flickr https://flic.kr/p/2p1vVuv

[MattBerryOfficial]

Great shots of Halifax. It has one, if not the best, waterfronts in the country IMO.

[someone123]

For anyone else, this comparison has been done to ad nauseam and the commonalities typically centre on commonplace superficialities like ocean harbour, similar population and tourism.

My reasons for not putting much stock in this comparison are that many cities can look similar in faraway skyline shots, and if you dig in to what the buildings are like (go to diagrams on SSP) the two cities are not very similar in terms of building era, style, number, or size. Victoria doesn't really have comparable office towers for example which is the bulk of the downtown skyline in Halifax. The residential buildings also don't look very similar. Fenwick looks to be around 2-3x the size of Hudson Place and was built 50 years earlier. And we're not yet talking about the Citadel or harbour bridges or other things.

I would argue the difference at street level in the urban core is even larger. You don't see people mention comparable neighbourhoods, streets, or buildings much, and it would be hard to come up with a correspondence like that.

[someone123]

An good case could be made for Victoria actually being the bigger city. (Sorry. I get caught up on numbers too much probly).

Most of the land in the Halifax CMA or HRM is uninhabited. The eastern 2/3 or so of the land has about as many people as moved to the city in 2022. There isn't some large rural population bloating the size of the metro.

People in Nanaimo don't commute to Victoria at high rates so it wasn't included in the CMA.

[Repthe250]

It's provocative because there's been a lot of discussion on the topic on here over the years and people from Halifax including Someone123 and me have explained why it doesn't make sense numerous times. And while I can't speak for anyone else, I think I've made it clear how annoying I find it. So it's hard to believe that a person who's been here long enough to know all that would make a comment that says nothing about the image other than an irritating reference to another city would be intended to do anything other than irritate.

Plus, the convention for saying that one thing resembles another has long been that the original, larger, or otherwise more prominent of the two does is not the one that "resembles" the smaller, newer or less prominent. So saying "Well I thought of the smaller/newer thing when looking at the larger/older one" just tends to mean one is more familiar with the smaller/newer one. But that's a characteristic of the person making the comparison rather than of the things being compared. So it's irrelevant.

LOL at Halifax being more prominent than Victoria because it has 20,000 more people. Victoria is the capital of a much more economically advanced province, sees more tourists per year and has a much larger population surrounding. (Vancouver and Seattle within a two hour ferry ride) Hell, Vancouver island is practically the same population as Nova Scotia. Sounds like your hate for victoria is causing the riff, not the comparison.

[q12]

Halifax being one of the fastest growing metros lately must have really hit a nerve with parts of Canada.

The CMAs of Moncton (N.B.) and Halifax (N.S.) saw the fastest growth rates of all CMAs in 2021/2022 at +5.3% and +4.4%, respectively. These growth rates are more than twice that of Canada for the same period (+1.8%) and represent the first time in at least twenty years that both the fastest growing CMAs are found in the Atlantic provinces

Nobody paid attention to the east coast for years, and now that it's leading the country in growth some of this country can't accept it. Having a decent metro on the East Coast of Canada is good for this country.

Some days I think we should have joined the 13 colonies instead of being one of the founding provinces of Confederation. Boston and Halifax are more friendly.