What City/Town has the best looking Police Cars [Archive]

bulliver

Sep 21, 2012, 5:20 PM

Id say the RCMP have the best liveries in Canada, none of them compare with police cars and other emergency vehicles across the pond though. We tend to stick closely with what they have south of the border which generally means tacky looking vehicles.

Not fond of the 'rainbow' livery, but I loved the old Blue and whites:
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2182/5752827353_0e1b409943_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/specmotors/5752827353/)
RCMP Car (http://www.flickr.com/photos/specmotors/5752827353/) by jessespector (http://www.flickr.com/people/specmotors/), on Flickr

Is this coming back? I found some pics of newer cars with the Bl&W...

Jstaleness

Sep 21, 2012, 5:24 PM

:previous: Wow! That looks great. Not bad for a restored model. I don't suppose this is in service anywhere is it?

theshark

Sep 21, 2012, 5:25 PM

nope, not comming back, new police interceptors are comming on full white again, those units you saw where high visibility unit, used in traffic operations or special events.

In the meantime, according to Blue Line Magasine, Miramichi police force had the best dressed police cars of 2012!

Link here: http://policecanada.org/policeca/blueline/2012/Blueline2012A.jpg

For those who want to search more, here; http://policecanada.ca/ ... some of them have wicked graphics

chrisallard5454

Sep 21, 2012, 5:28 PM

Mounted Division of the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary has curvier models... ;) lol

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3013/3038298484_83f8450ea2_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/silvershade/3038298484/)
Lest We Forget..! Image17 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/silvershade/3038298484/) by SilverShade (http://www.flickr.com/people/silvershade/), on Flickr

Wow, those are great looking! What's the make and model there?

bulliver

Sep 21, 2012, 5:29 PM

:previous: Wow! That looks great. Not bad for a restored model. I don't suppose this is in service anywhere is it?

Looking at the flickr page, this shot was taken in Regina, so I would imagine the car is on display at RCMP Heritage Centre...

Darkoshvilli

Sep 21, 2012, 5:43 PM

Montreal

http://www.globalmontreal.com/uploadedImages/Global_Montreal/News/upside_down_copcar2.jpg?size=original
http://www.globalmontreal.com/pages/media.aspx?id=6442601987&mediaID=6442601973

Dirt_Devil

Sep 21, 2012, 5:52 PM

Quebec City Police Dept.

Crown Victoria

http://storage.canoe.ca/v1/dynamic_resize/sws_path/suns-prod-images/1339779409008_ORIGINAL.jpg?quality=80&size=650x
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/06/22/cops-accused-of-ripping-off-colleagues

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8148/7616502738_cbd0a556ac_z.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vicemergencybuff/

AND

Chevy Tahoe

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8167/7369950322_f6e0f3b09b_z.jpg

Not the best looking for sure but not the worst either.

eemy

Sep 21, 2012, 5:52 PM

The OPP's new paint scheme:

http://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20110715/416_cp24_opp_generic1_110715.jpg

Dirt_Devil

Sep 21, 2012, 6:02 PM

Sûreté du Québec new Chargers:

http://scoopbrunet.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/img_7974.jpg?w=593&h=395

http://storage.canoe.ca/v1/dynamic_resize/sws_path/suns-prod-images/1297306336987_ORIGINAL.jpg?quality=80&size=650x
http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/08/31/cops-targeting-drunk-unsafe-drivers-this-long-weekend

But most Chargers are like this one:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7037/6914386461_cb7dc3dc5d_z.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/groups/dodgechargerpolicecars/pool/page11/?view=lg

Calgarian

Sep 21, 2012, 6:32 PM

Calgary's new police cars.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8430/7516163484_d4f4d84eeb_z.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanisland17/7516163484/

logan5

Sep 21, 2012, 7:15 PM

Vancouver is similar to Quebec City, but we do have some black and white which I like better. The Dodge Charger looks too roided out.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2423/3844675174_7e43279263.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2423/3844675174_7e43279263.jpg

vid

Sep 21, 2012, 7:17 PM

Cruiser:

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5040/5903179129_20b3317349_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/anthsrandomz/5903179129/)

Stealth mode :cool::

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5034/5903240795_93327e236d_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/anthsrandomz/5903240795/)

The logo only appears in certain lighting conditions. (http://www.flickr.com/photos/anthsrandomz/5903243007/in/set-72157630790379624/)

Chunky colours are better than stripes. :yes: RCMP cruisers are ugly.

Coldrsx

Sep 21, 2012, 7:24 PM

Someone was going to, might as well be me.

http://www.ridelust.com/wp-content/uploads/ferrari_cop_car_italy.jpg
(http://www.ridelust.com/wp-content/uploads/ferrari_cop_car_italy.jpg)

touraccuracy

Sep 21, 2012, 7:32 PM

Port Moody police look pretty badass:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1251/5167777141_314c634629.jpg
source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34202075@N04/5168385096/)

artvandelay

Sep 21, 2012, 7:48 PM

Sûreté du Québec new Chargers:
http://storage.canoe.ca/v1/dynamic_resize/sws_path/suns-prod-images/1297306336987_ORIGINAL.jpg?quality=80&size=650x
http://www.ottawasun.com/2012/08/31/cops-targeting-drunk-unsafe-drivers-this-long-weekend

Now that is cool.

Im loving the trend back to the LAPD style black and white cruisers, they look very badass.

Jstaleness

Sep 21, 2012, 8:28 PM

Someone was going to, might as well be me.

http://www.ridelust.com/wp-content/uploads/ferrari_cop_car_italy.jpg
(http://www.ridelust.com/wp-content/uploads/ferrari_cop_car_italy.jpg)

Is this for Little Italy in Toronto? LOL

Jstaleness

Sep 21, 2012, 8:32 PM

Port Moody police look pretty badass:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1251/5167777141_314c634629.jpg
source (http://www.flickr.com/photos/34202075@N04/5168385096/)

There we go! I think the black cars with the white doors work the best. Nice to see it on the Chargers now.

SignalHillHiker

Sep 21, 2012, 11:06 PM

I love the white one with the reflective logo from Quebec. That one is my favourite, and would be in any colour.

A better picture of ours from Twitter (a whole neighbourhood is being evacuated by that bus because of a drug lab discovery... that sounds like a meth lab to me. I hope meth doesn't become a thing here. St. John's tends to fall hard for drugs - lots of disposable income and people who think anything other than pot is exotic, foreign, and cool).

http://a.yfrog.com/img686/9973/jxmbq.jpg (http://twitter.yfrog.com/j2jxmbqj)

The Chemist

Sep 22, 2012, 2:01 AM

Calgary's new police cars.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8430/7516163484_d4f4d84eeb_z.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanisland17/7516163484/

Wow, really? That's pretty badass. Way better than the lousy paint jobs they've got on Chinese police cars.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1058/roewe550policechina1458.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1058/roewe550policechina1458.jpg

MTLskyline

Sep 22, 2012, 2:15 AM

Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu's new Ford Police Interceptors (the replacement for the Crown Vics)
http://imageshack.us/a/img195/849/stjeanrichellieuqc189.jpg
http://policecanada.org/policeca/qc/saintjeansurrichelieu/index.html

MTLskyline

Sep 22, 2012, 2:41 AM

Montreal Police cars

http://imageshack.us/a/img543/6090/montreal001jc.jpg
http://policecanada.org/policeca/qc/montreal/index.html

http://imageshack.us/a/img560/7004/montreal007.jpg
http://policecanada.org/policeca/qc/montreal/index.html

http://imageshack.us/a/img651/337/montreal002jc.jpg
http://policecanada.org/policeca/qc/montreal/index.html

http://imageshack.us/a/img23/3438/spcum006gd.jpg
http://policecanada.org/policeca/qc/spcum/index.html

http://imageshack.us/a/img440/6711/spcum013gd.jpg
http://policecanada.org/policeca/qc/spcum/index.html

http://imageshack.us/a/img84/4938/spcum036gd.jpg
http://policecanada.org/policeca/qc/spcum/index.html

http://imageshack.us/a/img824/2552/spvm8040amw.jpg
http://policecanada.org/policeca/qc/spvm/index.html

http://imageshack.us/a/img818/8111/spvm68185amw.jpg
http://policecanada.org/policeca/qc/spvm/index.html

http://imageshack.us/a/img845/7348/spvm51200amw.jpg
http://policecanada.org/policeca/qc/spvm/index.html

http://imageshack.us/a/img600/2687/spvmqc638.jpg
http://policecanada.org/policeca/qc/spvm/index.html

http://imageshack.us/a/img843/3874/spvm520.jpg
http://policecanada.org/policeca/qc/spvm/index.html

Jstaleness

Sep 22, 2012, 2:53 AM

Montreal Police cars
http://imageshack.us/a/img84/4938/spcum036gd.jpg
http://policecanada.org/policeca/qc/spcum/index.html

I personally like this one. Always a Caprice/Impala fan. I also remember these taking quite a beating during the '93 Riots.

Wharn

Sep 22, 2012, 3:12 AM

The OPP's new paint scheme:

http://images.ctv.ca/archives/CTVNews/img2/20110715/416_cp24_opp_generic1_110715.jpg

Dodge Chargers make perfect cop cars. Big, rear-wheel drive, V8 monsters, and they have this pissed-off look about them. Love 'em! If I had the cash I'd buy one in SRT-8 spec, black on black. Made in Canada too, or at least until the CAW chases Chrysler away.

Calgary's new police cars.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8430/7516163484_d4f4d84eeb_z.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/vanisland17/7516163484/

What we have here is a Volvo S80 that has been Fordified, and then given further modifications to perform a role it was never meant to. Discontinuing the Crown Vic and ridding themselves of a tough RWD platform was a mistake.

Wow, really? That's pretty badass. Way better than the lousy paint jobs they've got on Chinese police cars.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1058/roewe550policechina1458.jpg
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1058/roewe550policechina1458.jpg

A Roewe 550? How lame :D

Chinese Police cars don't need to look scary. The Chinese Police are already scary enough.

matt602

Sep 22, 2012, 3:27 AM

Ours. (Hamilton, ON)

http://media.mmgdailies.topscms.com/images/a8/e9/c78bdd904036ba4f0a6fc608dad8.jpeg
( http://www.thespec.com/news/local/article/491114--it-s-back-in-black-for-city-s-police-cars )

The old scheme is alright too. Don't think any of the chargers have been repainted into black and white yet.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1975/3515930258dd6d74565cbac.jpg
( random imageshack photo )

Blitz

Sep 22, 2012, 3:43 AM

I think ours won some poll for best design a few years back. They are slowly being converted to black and white now.

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/mark_81/Police1_zpsed16338a.jpg

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e211/mark_81/Police2_zpsa397a442.jpg

FrAnKs

Sep 22, 2012, 3:46 AM

I love the design on those one of windsor ! Simple , but also Elegant.

jmt18325

Sep 22, 2012, 3:50 AM

What we have here is a Volvo S80 that has been Fordified, and then given further modifications to perform a role it was never meant to. Discontinuing the Crown Vic and ridding themselves of a tough RWD platform was a mistake.

I drive a Chrysler 300. That Ford Police Interceptor has been engineered for the role, and is far superior:

http://www.ford.com/fordpoliceinterceptor/

rrskylar

Sep 22, 2012, 4:23 AM

Winnipeg went back to black and white in 2010.

http://www.winnipeg.ca/police/abouttheservice/images/2010_cruiser_car.jpg

AB Born

Sep 22, 2012, 5:07 AM

All pictures from the Calgary Police Facebook page...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/s720x720/319854_10150894439094530_1520988532_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/306283_10150894191134530_1083870197_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/537490_10150894439034530_319230474_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/544130_10150894190924530_508661047_n.jpg

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/s720x720/550468_10150894191314530_2015492046_n.jpg

eemy

Sep 22, 2012, 11:41 AM

Is there a particular reason most police forces seem to be switching to the panda scheme? I like it, but it seems odd that there is suddenly this big move in that direction.

The Chemist

Sep 22, 2012, 1:19 PM

Chinese Police cars don't need to look scary. The Chinese Police are already scary enough.

Nah, the regular police don't scare anybody - because for the most part they don't DO anything.

It's the paramilitary People's Armed Police that are the really scary ones.

SKYSTHELIMIT

Sep 22, 2012, 2:59 PM

Is there a particular reason most police forces seem to be switching to the panda scheme? I like it, but it seems odd that there is suddenly this big move in that direction.

I recall in Winnipeg when the changes were announced there had been a study put forward on visibility/safety and the black and white stood out more in daylight instances along with reflective badging along the side for nightime. Winnipeg police officers had to types of liveries to choose from and the pic from rrskylar was the winning choice.

JHikka

Sep 22, 2012, 4:15 PM

Saint John's is so boring :slob:
http://policecanada.org/policeca/nb/saintjohn/SaintJohnNB052.jpg

Charlottetown:
http://policecanada.org/policeca/pe/charlottetown/CharlottetownPE409.jpg

vid

Sep 22, 2012, 5:42 PM

OPP changed to black and white because they stand out better on the highways, especially when the vehicles are parked sideways to block a road. TBPS changed shortly after they did, basically agreeing that that colour scheme works better, except we used very dark blue instead of black.

I'm still not sure why so many of our cities use red firetrucks when the light green ones are easier to see. I think Thunder Bay is the only community in NWO that still has red firetrucks.

feepa

Sep 22, 2012, 5:47 PM

Edmonton:

previous:
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/5109042.bin?size=620x400
edmontonjournal.com

current old:
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/topstories/2010/09/09/tp-edm-homicide.jpg
cbc.ca

Current new:
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/topstories/2011/09/16/li-police-cars.jpg
cbc.ca

There seems to be a trend across north america to switch to the black and white style... including here in Edmonton.

Here's some other misc vehicles in the force..

http://policecanada.org/policeca/ab/edmontonps/EdmontonAB027.jpg

http://policecanada.org/policeca/ab/edmontonps/EdmontonAB063.jpg

http://policecanada.org/policeca/ab/edmontonps/EdmontonAB080.jpg

http://policecanada.org/policeca/ab/edmontonps/EdmontonAB087.jpg

http://policecanada.org/policeca/ab/edmontonps/EdmontonAB158.jpg

last 5 photos from policecanada.org

feepa

Sep 22, 2012, 5:53 PM

OPP changed to black and white because they stand out better on the highways, especially when the vehicles are parked sideways to block a road. TBPS changed shortly after they did, basically agreeing that that colour scheme works better, except we used very dark blue instead of black.

Going (back) to black and white is a trend through out north america.

I'm still not sure why so many of our cities use red firetrucks when the light green ones are easier to see. I think Thunder Bay is the only community in NWO that still has red firetrucks.
Edmonton had green ones, but they have all been converted to back to red now... Not sure why.

cormiermax

Sep 22, 2012, 5:59 PM

Seems most police forces east of Quebec are converting to white and black, interesting.

logan5

Sep 22, 2012, 6:09 PM

Dodge Chargers make perfect cop cars. Big, rear-wheel drive, V8 monsters, and they have this pissed-off look about them. Love 'em! If I had the cash I'd buy one in SRT-8 spec, black on black. Made in Canada too, or at least until the CAW chases Chrysler away.

Smaller work force, lower wages. Less manufacturing jobs. Another brainwashed Canadian who doesn't realize the importance of the middle class. Why pay Mexicans a dollar an hour when you can pay the Chinese 50 cents an hour.

Just curious, how much do you think an assembly line worker should be paid?

MTLskyline

Sep 22, 2012, 6:19 PM

Motor Trend compared the three new models of police car from Ford, Dodge and Chevrolet: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1210_chevrolet_9c3_detective_caprice_vs_dodge_charger_pursuit_vs_ford_police_interceptor/viewall.html

I haven't seen any Chevrolet Caprice police cars yet. Interestingly they are actually Holden Commodores (like the Pontiac G8 was). Finally GM's offer isn't a large FWD car like the Impala...

MTLskyline

Sep 22, 2012, 6:33 PM

Peugeot 207 in Paris
http://imageshack.us/a/img38/5195/p1010007xl.jpg

Ford Mondeo from Bath, England
http://imageshack.us/a/img443/7596/police1i.jpg

Police boat in London
http://imageshack.us/a/img542/8607/police12.jpg

(my photos)

theshark

Sep 22, 2012, 9:41 PM

I haven't seen any Chevrolet Caprice police cars yet. Interestingly they are actually Holden Commodores (like the Pontiac G8 was). Finally GM's offer isn't a large FWD car like the Impala...

and you will not, for some reason or another, GM will not offer the Caprice in Canada...at least for now.

MTLskyline

Sep 22, 2012, 10:35 PM

and you will not, for some reason or another, GM will not offer the Caprice in Canada...at least for now.

Even for police usage? I was under the impression the Caprice would only be available to the police.

theshark

Sep 22, 2012, 11:17 PM

yes it will only be available for police usage in the US, not sure but maybe fleet vehicle. But for some odd reason, they wil not import it to Canada and are not providing clear reasons why...

Jstaleness

Sep 22, 2012, 11:45 PM

I'm not even sure I like it.

http://www.autoinfection.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Chevy-Caprice-Police-Car-1.jpg

picture from Motor Trend.
http://forums.motortrend.com/70/7912408/the-general-forum/holden-based-rwd-2012-chevy-ss-coming-after-all/page3.html

AB Born

Sep 23, 2012, 12:14 AM

Why did Ford stop making Crown Vics? I thought that they would be getting a ton of money with all the Police Force's in North America using them.

jmt18325

Sep 23, 2012, 12:40 AM

They don't meet modern side impact standards because of the body on frame construction, and they were an orphan model that didn't merit the investment.

Symz

Sep 23, 2012, 4:39 AM

Windsor Police boat

source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wigwam/2599299480/
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2292/2599299480_1c880eeea1_b.jpg

Blitz did already post the new Windsor Police car graphics, but there are still some of the old graphics on cars around town.

source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/75905404@N00/5166261431/
http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1328/5166261431_04ec8cf5c3_z.jpg

Windsor Police motorcycle. The WPD is in the process to converting over to Victory motorcycles from the standard Harley Davidsons

source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pigeoncoup/7531501442/
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7254/7002439414_13c00c1929_c.jpg

Here are the outgoing Harley's with their graphics

source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/gopherit2/4572239547/
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4066/4572239547_7866408618_z.jpg

A classic Windsor Police cruiser from a car event held right near my house last week

pic is not mine, source: http://www.flickr.com/photos/the_kav/8005167076/
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8310/8005167076_9a37b3d162_b.jpg

artvandelay

Sep 23, 2012, 4:44 AM

Why did Ford stop making Crown Vics? I thought that they would be getting a ton of money with all the Police Force's in North America using them.

It really is a shame because every time you saw a regular Crown Vic there was a 80 percent chance it would be an undercover cop (also a 20 percent chance of it being a senior citizen :haha:) and an easy signal to stop speeding. With the Chargers these days it's much more difficult to tell.

vid

Sep 23, 2012, 5:07 AM

There is a used car dealership across the street from my apartment that usually is the one that sells police cars after they've been decommissioned. The interior is pretty normal, but the roof still has holes in it from when the light bar and antenna were on it. There is another one that sells old taxis and they still have white and yellow panels on them.

Jstaleness

Sep 23, 2012, 3:10 PM

Here is one I found for Cornwall. It's the first Civic I have seen.

http://cornwallfreenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/oppcar1.jpg

source: www.cornwallfreenews.com

In Halifax our secondary cars are often Ford Focus' or Dodge Caliber's

Dirt_Devil

Sep 23, 2012, 5:13 PM

Here is one I found for Cornwall. It's the first Civic I have seen.

In Halifax our secondary cars are often Ford Focus' or Dodge Caliber's

Interesting. We also have Civic's in Quebec City but those are used for police officer (mostly women) assigned to schools "police-école or school police"

And we have Dodge Journey's for organs transportation.

The_Architect

Sep 23, 2012, 6:48 PM

It really is a shame because every time you saw a regular Crown Vic there was a 80 percent chance it would be an undercover cop (also a 20 percent chance of it being a senior citizen :haha:) and an easy signal to stop speeding. With the Chargers these days it's much more difficult to tell.

A buddy of mine bought an old Crown Vic from a police auction ("cop motor, cop tires, cop suspension, cop shocks") and would scare the crap out of people who thought he was a cop following them. He bought one of those red lights that you'd see in buddy cop movies (that they'd put on their roof before starting a chase), but got in trouble for using it a couple times so it's not there anymore.

Never boring to ride with him.

logan5

Sep 23, 2012, 7:44 PM

Just for comparisons sake, here's Frances highway patrol car, the 2011 Renault Megane Coupe RS. Top speed 160 mph. 0 - 60 in 5.9 seconds. There are faster cars out there, but these numbers are not bad for a regular duty cop car, and far better looking than NA cop cars (imo). There are 70 of these vehicles in service.

http://www.autoultimate.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/french-police-car-2011-renault-megane-rs-620x349.jpg
http://www.autoultimate.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/french-police-car-2011-renault-megane-rs-620x349.jpg

http://rezmoto.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Renault-Megane-Coupe-RS.jpg
http://rezmoto.com/new-french-police-car

cormiermax

Sep 23, 2012, 8:03 PM

North American police cars, just like virtually all US designed cars are horribly ugly. Ford can make a decently nice car, although most of those are European designs. Also I don't know what graphic designers they're hiring for the liveries but they don't seem to have much in terms of taste, there are a few exceptions but for the most part our police cars are completely hideous compared to those overseas.

The_Architect

Sep 23, 2012, 8:54 PM

cormiermax

Sep 23, 2012, 9:13 PM

Oh, you're one of those people.

Personally I think a black painted Dodge Charger is a much better police car design than some Volvo hatchback.

I guess I just like my cars modern and slick rather than beastly and menacing, both serve a purpose I suppose. To each his own :cheers:

zoomer

Sep 23, 2012, 9:21 PM

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4094/4863990629_d7812ae8da_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonperry/4863990629/) Victoria Police (http://www.flickr.com/photos/claytonperry/4863990629/) by Clayton Perry Photoworks (http://www.flickr.com/people/claytonperry/), on Flickr

logan5

Sep 23, 2012, 10:07 PM

The thread is about which looks best, and that's subjective of course. In a police chase though the Renault or some other European hot hatch would destroy the overweight Dodge Charger.

jmt18325

Sep 23, 2012, 11:57 PM

No, the Charger would destroy the small European car...literally. The tactics used by NA police call for larger cars.

SignalHillHiker

Sep 24, 2012, 12:23 AM

Ooh, Victoria looks amazing...

I still like Winnipeg's design with the black stripe more. I don't like the black car with one white door... it seems odd. Which makes me suspect I like Victoria's design because it's two doors that are white... I don't know.

renthefinn

Sep 24, 2012, 1:35 AM

Dirt_Devil

Sep 24, 2012, 2:27 AM

Dodge Charger wins for me, and the Victoria one is really nice..... Someone complained in the local rag that it was too menacing and that it made him scared of the police or something along those lines....

I prefer the Crown Vic over the Charger, the driving experience is much nicer IMO. Plus there are nor V6 in Crown Vic (engine sound is just incredible when you hit the gas). But I have to admit that the new Charger's design is much better than the old one. They still have their problems though (i.e. rear view from driver seat is terrible especially with the police plexiglass). Still a good looking police car though especially when you compare to europe (Charger and Crown Vic are so much bigger than theirs) they look much more aggresive and "ready to attack" !

As for people complaining about Chargers being too "menacing and scary", well...LOL, i'm glad to see that there are imbeciles in other provinces and not only mine ;)

cormiermax

Sep 24, 2012, 2:36 AM

As for people complaining about Chargers being too "menacing and scary", well...LOL, i'm glad to see that there are imbeciles in other provinces and not only mine ;)

Well that escalated quickly :haha: Must have pretty thin skin to get so worked up over someone's opinion on police cars...

MountainView

Sep 24, 2012, 2:51 AM

Ottawa's old police colours:

http://web.ncf.ca/dg300/policecar.jpg

http://web.ncf.ca/dg300/ottawapolicesuv1.jpg

And the new colours that the new police cars will have:

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/cars/7108465.bin?size=620x400s

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/cars/7108466.bin?size=620x400s

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/cars/7108461.bin?size=620x400s

cormiermax

Sep 24, 2012, 3:10 AM

Loving Ottawa's new cars!

Wharn

Sep 24, 2012, 8:56 PM

Smaller work force, lower wages. Less manufacturing jobs. Another brainwashed Canadian who doesn't realize the importance of the middle class.

Just curious, how much do you think an assembly line worker should be paid?

"Brainwashed" indeed. Can you explain to me how all the auto workers at Toyota's Woodstock plant and Honda's Alliston plant are able to lead productive, middle-class lives without being part of a union?

I would consider Toyota's starting wage of $25/hour to be fair for a new assembly line worker. Raises would depend on productivity and experience.

The thread is about which looks best, and that's subjective of course. In a police chase though the Renault or some other European hot hatch would destroy the overweight Dodge Charger.

Delusional much?

Dodge Charger: 370 horsepower V8, 395 lb-ft of torque, curb weight 3961 lbs, 186.82 horsepower/ton

Renault Megane RS: 250 horsepower, 340 lb-ft of torque, curb weight 3057 lbs, 163.56 horsepower/ton

Having that extra weight and heft to throw around also helps when Police chases get physical. If you recall from Top Gear, European police forces tend to avoid damaging their cars; American ones smash them up regularly, and then just send them off to have the frame straightened.

Also keep in mind the RS is a special car produced in limited quantities (the Gendarmerie, for example, only bought 70 of them) whereas the V8 Charger makes up the vast majority of North American DCPI sales (most figures I've seen seem to peg it around 75-80%). Most European police departments continue using underpowered diesels (I found the Citroen C4s in Spain to be particularly amusing). The RS is also the top trim level with the most powerful engine; the Charger uses the standard V8 (5.7L HEMI). If police departments equipped it with the 6.4L V8, it would kick out 470 horsepower, more than enough to take on any mainstream European production car. On top of that, it's RWD, meaning you're not going to get catastrophic understeer when your 250hp FWD vehicle has to make a sharp turn and you can perform the PIT maneuver a little more easily. I believe, though, the Megane would definitely have the edge on handling (not like this matters in Canada) and top speed. But would it "destroy" a Charger? Not a chance.

...and this is coming from someone who normally hates Chrysler products.

240glt

Sep 24, 2012, 9:28 PM

^ The Chargers were the logical choice for sure. However, when I drove one I noticed how low you sit in it, and it's really restrictive to look behind you. Comparatively, the old Crown Vics were like fish bowls... they had excellent vision from the drivers seat all around.

Back on topic, I remember when the RCMP got their Camaro Z-28's for patolling the Coquihalla way back in the day. Those were sharp looking cop cars!

Burnaby ran Volvo S70 T-5's for a short period... they were cool looking cars but like most FWD's couldn't take the punishment, along with the likes of Impalas and Tauruses

Jstaleness

Sep 24, 2012, 10:11 PM

The new Ottawa cars look great. The Taurus isn't as aggressive looking as the Charger IMO but it sure beats the old Vics and Caprice's

logan5

Sep 25, 2012, 2:05 AM

"Brainwashed" indeed. Can you explain to me how all the auto workers at Toyota's Woodstock plant and Honda's Alliston plant are able to lead productive, middle-class lives without being part of a union?

I would consider Toyota's starting wage of $25/hour to be fair for a new assembly line worker. Raises would depend on productivity and experience.

Delusional much?

Dodge Charger: 370 horsepower V8, 395 lb-ft of torque, curb weight 3961 lbs, 186.82 horsepower/ton

Renault Megane RS: 250 horsepower, 340 lb-ft of torque, curb weight 3057 lbs, 163.56 horsepower/ton

Having that extra weight and heft to throw around also helps when Police chases get physical. If you recall from Top Gear, European police forces tend to avoid damaging their cars; American ones smash them up regularly, and then just send them off to have the frame straightened.

Also keep in mind the RS is a special car produced in limited quantities (the Gendarmerie, for example, only bought 70 of them) whereas the V8 Charger makes up the vast majority of North American DCPI sales (most figures I've seen seem to peg it around 75-80%). Most European police departments continue using underpowered diesels (I found the Citroen C4s in Spain to be particularly amusing). The RS is also the top trim level with the most powerful engine; the Charger uses the standard V8 (5.7L HEMI). If police departments equipped it with the 6.4L V8, it would kick out 470 horsepower, more than enough to take on any mainstream European production car. On top of that, it's RWD, meaning you're not going to get catastrophic understeer when your 250hp FWD vehicle has to make a sharp turn and you can perform the PIT maneuver a little more easily. I believe, though, the Megane would definitely have the edge on handling (not like this matters in Canada) and top speed. But would it "destroy" a Charger? Not a chance.

...and this is coming from someone who normally hates Chrysler products.

The weight you have for the Charger seems a few hundred pounds low. I don't have the luxury of driving every different car, but from what I've seen on Top Gear, the lighter European cars always perform better on the track. If I'm in a Ronin type car chase, the Renault is probably at a big advantage. I believe most of the Dodge Chargers used are the v6 models with the 5.7 used more minimally for highway patrol.

As far as wages for autoworkers go... I'm not sure why somebody would be against employees sitting down with employers to work out a fair deal. Looking back, we've seen why unions are necessary, and looking at today we see why unions are still very important. We have rich corporations exploiting people in 3rd world countries, bidding down wages with each country they relocate to without any regard to the poor standard of living and working conditions they provide their employees. Unions=Democracy. That's why corporations love China - Communist dictatorship.

Wharn

Sep 25, 2012, 6:24 AM

The weight you have for the Charger seems a few hundred pounds low. I don't have the luxury of driving every different car, but from what I've seen on Top Gear, the lighter European cars always perform better on the track. If I'm in a Ronin type car chase, the Renault is probably at a big advantage. I believe most of the Dodge Chargers used are the v6 models with the 5.7 used more minimally for highway patrol.

Thanks for pointing out the weight; that was for the Pentastar V6, the HEMI V8 is actually 4,253 lbs because of the extra metal needed for that monster engine. Which means power/weight is closer to 174 hp/ton. The contest is closer than I thought. I recall reading that the vast majority of Chargers were HEMI-equipped, but I don't really feel like hunting for the statistic at this point. As the Moody Blues would say, I know it's out there somewhere...

European performance cars do better on the track, but good track results don't always translate into good real-world results. Clarkson is always complaining about how useless the C63 AMG is on actual roads, after all. Also, as 240glt pointed out, FWD cars don't like taking damage as much.

As far as wages for autoworkers go... I'm not sure why somebody would be against employees sitting down with employers to work out a fair deal. Looking back, we've seen why unions are necessary, and looking at today we see why unions are still very important.

I have nothing wrong with employees working out a fair deal with their employers. Nor do I think Unions are completely irrelevant at this point. What I don't like is having Unions misrepresent the facts to their employees and the public (a la EMD) and then proceed to make unreasonable and politically-motivated demands that may result in plant closures and the loss of jobs.

We have rich corporations exploiting people in 3rd world countries, bidding down wages with each country they relocate to without any regard to the poor standard of living and working conditions they provide their employees. Unions=Democracy. That's why corporations love China - Communist dictatorship.

Apple seems to be particularly guilty of this, and yet ironically many of their most Liberal customers turn a blind eye and continue to go after the likes of GM and Citi.

Unions are not really democracy incarnate; if they were more open to the idea of core and non-core dues, or even open shop, then maybe I'd agree with you. But as it stands, they monopolize power in the workplace and impede individual bargaining, and even force members to donate to political causes they may not support (via union dues). Now, I've said this before, but the love affair Western corporations have with China is going to come back to bite them in the ass. Unless the Communist government collapses or becomes considerably more open and democratic (and begins to resemble- dare I say it- Taiwan), they are playing the game for one reason and one reason only: to gain access to Western technology, and use it for their own ends. Look up the story of how SAIC (state-controlled auto company) stole SsangYong's hybrid technology- they could get away with it because puny South Korea wasn't going to be able to retaliate in any measurable way.

MTLskyline

Sep 25, 2012, 1:16 PM

The new Ottawa cars look great. The Taurus isn't as aggressive looking as the Charger IMO but it sure beats the old Vics and Caprice's

Would have been better if they made the Taurus RWD though... I don't understand why anyone would buy a large FWD car.

theshark

Sep 25, 2012, 3:55 PM

Would have been better if they made the Taurus RWD though... I don't understand why anyone would buy a large FWD car.

The Crown vics and Chargers weight nothing at the back over the wheels, all tho they are gripping to the pavement like hell in the summer, they are like ice skates in the winter even with the best winter tires around and a trunk full of gear, they get stuck everywhere and just for that, I like the idea of a 4wd better than a RWD

Wharn

Sep 27, 2012, 2:03 AM

Would have been better if they made the Taurus RWD though... I don't understand why anyone would buy a large FWD car.

Mostly for interior space. Big front-wheel drive cars like the Chrysler LHS or the Volvo S80 have lots of room for passengers because you've removed the intrusive drivetrain. However, I notice that German RWD vehicles are also very efficient with interior space, so I dunno.

The Crown vics and Chargers weight nothing at the back over the wheels, all tho they are gripping to the pavement like hell in the summer, they are like ice skates in the winter even with the best winter tires around and a trunk full of gear, they get stuck everywhere and just for that, I like the idea of a 4wd better than a RWD

Vics are bad in the snow because they have the world's worst traction control system (or just none at all). Chargers are actually quite a bit better but any RWD vehicle is going to suck once things get slippery. Auto enthusiasts who tell you otherwise are delusional. I personally find 4WD makes things a bit too complicated from a mechanical viewpoint, so not good for fleet vehicles but fantastic for consumers (there is a reason why Subaru sells more cars per capita here than the US)

lake of the nations

Jul 10, 2013, 2:57 PM

The Sherbrooke Police Service began to replace some of their Crown Victorias with Interceptors.

http://images.lpcdn.ca/435x290/200909/22/110335-service-police-sherbrooke-demantele-lieu.jpg
LA TRIBUNE, RENÉ-CHARLES QUIRION (http://www.lapresse.ca/la-tribune/sherbrooke/200909/22/01-904316-le-sps-demantele-une-production-de-cannabis-automatisee.php)

http://files.gestionradioqc.com/news/picture/2013/07/09/20130709D295OV_460.jpg
98,5 fm (http://www.985fm.ca/regional/nouvelles/de-nouveaux-vehicules-de-patrouille-pour-le-sps-251776.html)

MonkeyRonin

Jul 10, 2013, 5:44 PM

Toronto police cars in the 80s, usually mistaken for taxis by tourists. :haha:

http://www.blogto.com/upload/2010/10/20101011-TorontoPoliceCar.jpg

Dmajackson

Jul 10, 2013, 6:21 PM

ALL PHOTOS HOSTED ON POLICECANADA.CA

Halifax has its standard ugly cars but they also have these;

http://policecanada.org/policeca/ns/halifaxregional/HalifaxRegional009.jpg

Cape Breton uses these;

http://policecanada.org/policeca/ns/capebreton/CapeBretonNS079.jpg

And up for some of the sexiest police cars in Canada is ....... Kentville!

http://policecanada.org/policeca/ns/kentville/KentvilleNS005.jpg

SignalHillHiker

Jul 23, 2014, 2:12 PM

The Royal Newfoundland Constabulary has added a few stealth vehicles for highway patrols:

http://i60.tinypic.com/2w1v77k.jpg

Then and now, via the RNC:

http://i58.tinypic.com/v3hcoo.jpg

And, of course, downtown St. John's is patrolled by their mounted division:

http://www.signalhillhikerphotography.com/St-Johns-Pride-Parade-2014/i-FCVpFqV/0/XL/IMG_4560_edited-L.jpg (http://www.signalhillhikerphotography.com/St-Johns-Pride-Parade-2014/i-FCVpFqV/A)

lio45

Jul 23, 2014, 4:07 PM

SQ has a lot of the new Chargers (with the rear lightbar) and they look great! :D

The city of Colebrook is the only place I know that has the Aussie 'Chevrolden' Caprice (brought on our continent for police use only; they're quite rare). Might have something to do with the fact the only car dealer in town is the bowtie brand.

The Sherbrooke police is a mix of older Ford PI and newer Ford PI.

(i.e. Crown Vic and Police Taurus, with the mix more and more in favor of the latter as the years pass.)

vid

Jul 24, 2014, 2:41 AM

"Stealth vehicles"!

In Thunder Bay, the only identifying features of our highway patrol cars are the bars over the rear windows and the fact that they're late model Crown Victorias in a city where almost no one ever drives Crown Victorias. There is no text or image on the exterior of the vehicle at all and the police here no longer use CB radios, so the large antennas are all gone.

coolcanadian

Jul 25, 2014, 9:54 PM

Toronto Police

These cars have always looked so clean and smooth to me - I like them!

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3683/8836308525_49af808759_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ashtonpal/8836308525/

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5001/5345651919_ac97d86950_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brhooom/5345651919/

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3921/14318794236_db9a54ac03_b.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gopherit2/14318794236/

https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6234/6373292865_a6f2646957_b.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/gopherit2/6373292865/sizes/l

Emergency Task Force
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7355/8865911691_48b5e78ca2_b.jpg
http://www.flickr.com/photos/benroffelsen/8865911691/

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8017/7239015016_e66615ea2d_b.jpg
https://www.flickr.com/photos/46490307@N04/7239015016/

Safety Bug
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4083/4974602262_85d228b1ca_z.jpg

333609543

Jul 25, 2014, 10:00 PM

Brampton/Peel Region
http://www.680news.com/files/2010/03/b3b82e404576a95fb8eae7a0a7b3.jpeg
Source (http://www.680news.com/files/2010/03/b3b82e404576a95fb8eae7a0a7b3.jpeg)
On a serious note: Calgary
http://i.cbc.ca/1.1700248.1379087690!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/hi-policecarnewbw-8col.jpg
Source (http://i.cbc.ca/1.1700248.1379087690!/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/16x9_620/hi-policecarnewbw-8col.jpg)
http://northstarfordblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Ford-Taurus-Interceptor.jpg
Source (http://northstarfordblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Ford-Taurus-Interceptor.jpg)
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8430/7516163484_d4f4d84eeb_z.jpg
Source (https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8430/7516163484_d4f4d84eeb_z.jpg)

goodthings

Jul 26, 2014, 12:11 AM

Brampton/Peel Region
http://www.680news.com/files/2010/03/b3b82e404576a95fb8eae7a0a7b3.jpeg
Source (http://www.680news.com/files/2010/03/b3b82e404576a95fb8eae7a0a7b3.jpeg)

LOL!!! Stop putting our local police force in bad light, considering that they did a great job in apprehending the threatening man in Sunwing Airlines...

A more dignified pic of Peel Regional Police...

https://c1.staticflickr.com/7/6011/5976723518_c6e2672b2e_z.jpg
Source (https://www.flickr.com/photos/e2kmaster/5976723518/)

York Regional Police

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5530/11145073804_5888a3de35.jpg
Source (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46036002@N05/11145073804/)

Halton Regional Police

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4049/4335879634_7e45a352fc.jpg
Source (https://www.flickr.com/photos/gopherit2/4335879634/)

Durham Regional Police

https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7254/7516608424_176f509eea_z.jpg
Source (https://www.flickr.com/photos/24859161@N02/7516608424/)