NEW YORK | 432 Park Avenue (Drake Hotel dev.) | (1,396) FT / 432 M | 89 FLOORS

[sw5710]

The forms were jumped and floor 25 starts. This will be the 29th perimeter beam level 449' 6'' above the lobby.

[chris08876]

The forms were jumped and floor 25 starts. This will be the 29th perimeter beam level 449' 6'' above the lobby.

A good visualization of how tall it is currently would be comparing it too Newark's tallest building. Which is 465'. And to think it has over 3x of that height to go.
Take that height, from the roof top, triple it, and add like 1/3 of this tower and thats what where dealing with. Going to be amazing from ground level.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/National_Newark_Building.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/National_Newark_Building.jpg

[sw5710]

The next time the core jumps it will be between the 32nd and 33rd beam level. The 32nd level is at 496' so the core framework will clear 500'

[NYguy]

( September 12, 2013 )


Moving right along...


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152303847/large.jpg
www.432park.com


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152303847/original.jpg

[sw5710]

The core is jumping. The top has cleared 500'

[Ricopedra]

[QUOTE=chris08876;6263444]A good visualization of how tall it is currently would be comparing it too Newark's tallest building. Which is 465'. And to think it has over 3x of that height to go.
Take that height, from the roof top, triple it, and add like 1/3 of this tower and thats what where dealing with. Going to be amazing from ground level.

It sounds like you're making a milkshake! ;>) I know we're skyscraper nerds, but this is embarrassing! Ha Ha.

[sw5710]

Core jumps were on 9/3 - 9/6 - 9/12:)

[CCs77]

:previous:
And before that on 8/15 - 8/20 and 8/23, between 8/23 and 9/3 there is a long span because the long holiday of labor day, when they took like 4 and a half days off, (they didn't work on friday, saturday, sunday, monday and I think they didn't work thursday afternoon either)
That gives 5 jumps in 28 days, meaning there is an average of one jump every 5.6 days (I am not counting the jump of 8/15, since it is the "jump zero" for this count) I think that we can round up that to 5,5 since there was a long holiday in between that inflated the count.
In that time there were 21 working days, so they are making a 4.2 day cycle per jump, taking in account only working days.

With 110 days left for the end of the year, at a rate of 5.5 days per floor, by january first, they should do about 20 more floors. so if they are currently at the 33rd floor, it should be at the 53rd floor or 821.5 ft / 250 meters.

[sw5710]

:previous:
And before that on 8/15 - 8/20 and 8/23, between 8/23 and 9/3 there is a long span because the long holiday of labor day, when they took like 4 and a half days off, (they didn't work on friday, saturday, sunday, monday and I think they didn't work thursday afternoon either)
That gives 5 jumps in 28 days, meaning there is an average of one jump every 5.6 days (I am not counting the jump of 8/15, since it is the "jump zero" for this count) I think that we can round up that to 5,5 since there was a long holiday in between that inflated the count.
In that time there were 21 working days, so they are making a 4.2 day cycle per jump, taking in account only working days.

With 110 days left for the end of the year, at a rate of 5.5 days per floor, by january first, they should do about 20 more floors. so if they are currently at the 33rd floor, it should be at the 53rd floor or 821.5 ft / 250 meters.

Over 800' at years end. Great! They are doing rebar and concrete work on the 29th apparent floor or actual floor 25 at 449' 6'', above that is the core, it is at the 33rd apparent floor 512'

[xnyr]

Core jumps were on 9/3 - 9/6 - 9/12:)

:previous:
And before that on 8/15 - 8/20 and 8/23, between 8/23 and 9/3 there is a long span because the long holiday of labor day, when they took like 4 and a half days off, (they didn't work on friday, saturday, sunday, monday and I think they didn't work thursday afternoon either)
That gives 5 jumps in 28 days, meaning there is an average of one jump every 5.6 days (I am not counting the jump of 8/15, since it is the "jump zero" for this count) I think that we can round up that to 5,5 since there was a long holiday in between that inflated the count.
In that time there were 21 working days, so they are making a 4.2 day cycle per jump, taking in account only working days.

With 110 days left for the end of the year, at a rate of 5.5 days per floor, by january first, they should do about 20 more floors. so if they are currently at the 33rd floor, it should be at the 53rd floor or 821.5 ft / 250 meters.

And I have yet to actually see them lower rebar into the core form. :shrug:

[babybackribs2314]

Today's 432 Park update - peeking out from past Madison Avenue now!

432 Park September 2013 Construction Photos (http://www.yimbynews.com/#/2013/09/432-park-avenue-september.html/1)

http://www.yimbynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/432park5.jpg

[sw5710]

And I have yet to actually see them lower rebar into the core form. :shrug:

It has been several weeks since I did. I now keep missing it.

[NYguy]

( September 16, 2013 )


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152375123/large.jpg
www.432park.com



http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152375123/original.jpg





BTW, people have been asking about this one, but I wonder if the rise of 432 Park increases the value of this already valuable piece of Manhattan real estate, a lot more than it normally would have...

http://jewishbusinessnews.com/2013/09/15/michael-tabor-sits-on-a-manhattan-skyscraper/

After nine years of waiting, Tabor is now ready to put the building that he acquired in 2007 up for auction.


http://jewishbusinessnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/96_big450-park-av.-1.jpg

Albert Hecht
Sept. 15, 2013


.....Michael Tabor paid out just over $500 million to acquire the 32-storey building situated on 450 Park Avenue. The building was purchased struck through Tabor’s family trust and for a record price per square foot, at that time, for a North American office tower.

The building which was completed in 1972 and underwent major renovation in 2006 has far from being a loss maker for the Tabor family trust, being almost totally occupied for most of the time that it was in his hands.

However Michael Tabor now feels that the time is right to part company with the building, which sits on the intersection of Park Avenue and East 57th Street, regarded as being among the most desirable office and shopping districts in Manhattan. Tabor plans to auction the Manhattan skyscraper through US private equity company Somerset Partners, and expects to get around $600 million for the property.

[ILNY]

BTW, people have been asking about this one, but I wonder if the rise of 432 Park increases the value of this already valuable piece of Manhattan real estate, a lot more than it normally would have...



Does 432 Park also increases property taxes since it makes neighboring buildings more valuable?

[xnyr]

Mon eve.
I like this new angle.... we'll see how long it lasts.

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7288/9778167942_28f2e2e499_z.jpg
432parkavenue.com (http://www.432parkavenue.com/new-construction-in-NYC/#video3)

59th St. cam down now.

[sw5710]

The outer forms are up to the 30th perimeter beam level, or actual floor 26 at 465' With the 59th St cam down I can only assume that this floor has been started.The core is near the 33rd beam level or 511' 6'' Catch you all later. I'm going to Hawaii in the morning for 9 days.

[photoLith]

This will be TO before we know it.

[N830MH]

Catch you all later. I'm going to Hawaii in the morning for 9 days.

Well, have a great flight. Hope you have a great time. Enjoy Hawaii. Aloha!

[sw5710]

Well, have a great flight. Hope you have a great time. Enjoy Hawaii. Aloha!

Thank You! Alohaaaaaaa:)

[marcatio]

Yesterday, a floor slab and the core was poured, and I suspect that a core form rise will happen today. In addition, the next floor's formwork was being placed the last time the 59St. cam was operable yesterday afternoon. But, because of the 59 St cam down, the progress is not viewable as of now. And, why was the Park Avenue cam tampered with? OK, I see the new windows that were placed, but other than that, the current view doesn't inform the viewer of any other progress.

Let's hope that these problems get corrected. Soon.

[marcatio]

Happily, both the Park Avenue and 59 St. cams have been repositioned.

[JACKinBeantown]

Frost Bank Tower in Austin is 515'. (It's design is at 1398 feet.)

http://akabuilders.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/ChaseBankView_lorez.jpg
akabuilders.com

[CCs77]

I made this gif with a span of a month of construction, from august 20th until today, september 17th (including today's core jump)

In that period, the building has grown 6 stories, begining to count from august 15th (being that the jump zero, with august 20th as jump one) has been 33 days, or one story every 5,5 calendar days. (notice that when I calculate the last average, it was one floor every 5,5 days, now it is a lower average because the long labor-day holiday has been diluted in a longer period of time)

Counting only the working days, it has been 25 days, meaning they are, on average, in a 4.17-day cycle.

If they keep the approximate 4-day cycle and do another jump the next saturday, the average will further lower to a floor every 5,27 calendar days and one every 4,14 working days.

Right now, they are already pouring columns on the south side.

http://imageshack.us/a/img822/1283/94z0.gif

[NYC GUY]

^^^
That's impressive growth for only a month.

[N830MH]

Wow!! Very nice. Keep it up!

[marcatio]

Is anybody having problems viewing the 59St cam??

[mat97]

Is anybody having problems viewing the 59St cam??

yes

[forj]

try using Chrome maybe? it's working fine for me

currently:

http://i.imgur.com/4MkAyLp.png

[RobEss]

432 Park has officially pierced the skyline - I took this from the Central Ave. subway stop in Bushwick.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2823/9806738913_c6c5a53ac9_h.jpg

[CCs77]

Cool!
Already visible from Brooklyn!

That problem with the camra is quite odd, some people have it some others not. I have the problem with Firefox, but not with Chrome, some peolpe seem to have the porblem with Chrome too.
Here's a tip, right click on the camera and choose open in a new private or incognito window. that seems to be working.

[NYguy]

Does 432 Park also increases property taxes since it makes neighboring buildings more valuable?

Well, we know it certainly won't "blight" the neighborhood...;)



( September 18, 2013 )

Let the bullying begin...


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152413106/original.jpg
www.432park.com

[Thefigman]

432 Park has officially pierced the skyline - I took this from the Central Ave. subway stop in Bushwick.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2823/9806738913_c6c5a53ac9_h.jpg

From this angle it will be so prominent in the skyline.

[forj]

oh man - i am loving this new wider view on the 59th st. cam. give a much better perspective on the surroundings. this thing is going to start stopping people in their tracks on the streets in a few months when it starts dominating the midtown skyline

http://i.imgur.com/cOtWHBT.png

[Forrest Dweller]

I like the new 59 cam. It announces 432's arrival in the BIG'S.

[NYguy]

Soon to be king of them all...


(September 19, 2013)


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152428066/large.jpg
www.432park.com


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152428066/original.jpg

[Perklol]

It's growing very fast and does not look "dangerously" thin.

Btw, what 's the white building on the right side of pic called?

[Yackemflaber69]

^Four seasons hotel. Currently the tallest all hotel building in NYC.
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=312

[Crawford]

^Four seasons hotel. Currently the tallest all hotel building in NYC.
http://skyscraperpage.com/cities/?buildingID=312

Second tallest all-hotel building in NYC. The new Marriott at Broadway/54th is taller than the Four Seasons (I think it's 755 ft).

[NewYorker2009]

It's growing very fast and does not look "dangerously" thin.

Well the Tower is at about 500' so it won't look that thin until it tops out. Each side is 93' 6".

[jigglysquishy]

If my basic math is correct, when topped out 432 will reach outside the frame of that Brooklyn photo.

[forj]

i think we're about due for a core / crane jump here. does anyone know the height of the building next door with the pyramid top? it's hard for me to tell from the 59th street perspective but it looks like we are about even with the top of that building, and that this next jump will put us higher than that

http://i.imgur.com/75o1JA7.png

[babybackribs2314]

Latest photo update - thrilled with how this one came out, it was really looking great yesterday!

432 Park Avenue September 2013 Construction Update (http://www.yimbynews.com/2013/09/432-park-avenue-september-update.html/1) - New York YIMBY

http://www.yimbynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/432pa5.jpg

[NYguy]

http://distilleryimage10.ak.instagram.com/18cce744163a11e387df22000ae803ad_7.jpg

jdsoffer (http://instagram.com/p/d4fMwexdkC/#)

[TransitEngr]

I'm incredibly torn about this building. I have a love/hate feel about its renderings.... I will be interested to see how the real deal looks.


I hate that it's brutally simple... minimal architectural "break up" as it soars into the sky. It makes me think, "oh how architecturally irrelevant... it's like One Shell Square in New Orleans, or 222 S. Riverside Plaza in Chicago.":yuck:

However.... I love that it's somewhat effeminate because of its slender nature and pale white facade. This softens its brutality and makes it appear graceful and almost elegant.:tup:


Most of all.... I love how fuck'n fast its progressing. BILLIONAIRES GET SHIT DONE YO.:cheers:

[fountainkopf]

I'm incredibly torn about this building. I have a love/hate feel about its renderings.... I will be interested to see how the real deal looks.


I hate that it's brutally simple... minimal architectural "break up" as it soars into the sky. It makes me think, "oh how architecturally irrelevant... it's like One Shell Square in New Orleans, or 222 S. Riverside Plaza in Chicago.":yuck:

However.... I love that it's somewhat effeminate because of its slender nature and pale white facade. This softens its brutality and makes it appear graceful and almost elegant.:tup:


Most of all.... I love how fuck'n fast its progressing. BILLIONAIRES GET SHIT DONE YO.:cheers:

I kinda agree that minimalism is very very delicate art form.

Here is the One Shell square New Orlearns.

http://www.emporis.com/images/show/510343-Large.jpg

[mrnyc]

^ it does somewhat resemble a skinny version of that one good call

[tennis1400]

One Shell Square in the early 70s... it does look similar especially from this angle.


http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5259/5514701387_c0e65e7233.jpg

[forj]

and 432 Park is almost exactly twice as tall as One Shell Square, which is 697 ft..

wow.

i would love to see a current shot from the north from a good distance - see how visible this is becoming from a distance.

[Plokoon11]

I'll admit, I wasn't a really big fan of this building. It didn't seem right looking that skinny at a height of 1,398 ft. But I think seeing it rise is exciting right now. I still wish it was thicker, but hey you take what you can get! :)

[drumz0rz]

Curbed NY has some renders and a floor plan for the penthouse. This is what $95 million apparently gets you in NY...
http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/5240470cf92ea10ea101bc1d/Screen%20shot%202013-09-23%20at%209.36.38%20AM.png
http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/5240470ef92ea10ea101bc27/Screen%20shot%202013-09-23%20at%209.36.49%20AM.png
http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/52404710f92ea10ea101bc31/dbox_432_Bathroom%20His_Detail_Side.jpg
http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/52404713f92ea10ea101bc3b/dbox_432_kitchen_1per_flr_elevation.jpg
http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/52404715f92ea10ea101bc45/dbox_432_kitchen_2per_flr_left.jpg
Full Article: Curbed NY (http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/09/23/check_out_the_penthouse_floorplans_and_views_in_432_park.php)

[j-biz]

http://cdn.cstatic.net/images/gridfs/52404715f92ea10ea101bc45/dbox_432_kitchen_2per_flr_left.jpg
Full Article: Curbed NY (http://ny.curbed.com/archives/2013/09/23/check_out_the_penthouse_floorplans_and_views_in_432_park.php)

Imagine cooking your truffle scrambled quail eggs there every morning..

As if the future owners will EVER personally use their kitchen. :haha:

[NYguy]

Four supertalls will rise along 57th Street. Only one will rule. The battle is joined.


(September 23, 2013)



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[10023]

Imagine cooking your truffle scrambled quail eggs there every morning..

As if the future owners will EVER personally use their kitchen. :haha:
You can't make scrambled quail eggs, they cook too quickly. ;)

That looks like the family kitchen, not the full kitchen for the staff (in this price range, there should be two).

[Field Condition]

Construction photos and update from last Friday:

http://fieldcondition.com/blog/2013/...tember-14-2013 (http://fieldcondition.com/blog/2013/9/2/construction-update-432-park-avenue-rafael-vinoly-architects-august-28-2013)

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2827/9875818096_daf106db7c_b.jpg

[sw5710]

I'm back, and here we go. The forms are now up to level 32 or 496' above the lobby. The core is near level 35 or 542' 6'' For the actual floor count subtract 4 floors from the levels.:)

[CCs77]

I made this to see how approximately it would look like as seen from Central Park

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3333/6l5u.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/6l5u.jpg/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7381/9862709876_3c2921f91d_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/78575093@N05/9862709876/)
central park panorama (http://www.flickr.com/photos/78575093@N05/9862709876/) por cmpunkrules (http://www.flickr.com/people/78575093@N05/), en Flickr


And I post this picture from the same guy that took the photo from Central Park.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3752/9862435336_248c1c3349_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/78575093@N05/9862435336/)
trump tower 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/78575093@N05/9862435336/) por cmpunkrules (http://www.flickr.com/people/78575093@N05/), en Flickr

[forj]

I made this to see how approximately it would look like as seen from Central Park

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3333/6l5u.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/6l5u.jpg/)

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I dont think that's quite right - 432 Park should be both skinnier and taller in that view than it is depicted here

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quick mockup by myself here - and certainly not 100% exact either, but this should be a little more accurate and give you a fairly good feel for what it should be like from this angle once it's done

http://i.imgur.com/laJvmcm.jpg

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or, for an even better idea - something a little more official ( 432park.com )

http://i.imgur.com/RhParde.png
http://i.imgur.com/RSxLIJw.png

in the last image / render, directly above - you can get an idea for where construction currently is at in relation to the buildings nearby. I believe we are currently right at the lowest open-air levels that you can see in the render, just below the height of the 4 seasons, which you can see directly to the right and in front of 432. as you can see there is a long way to go. it's going to look ridiculously awesome when it reaches full height haha

[CCs77]

I dont think that's quite right - 432 Park should be both skinnier and taller in that view than it is depicted here

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Yeah, it was to wide, I think I'm still not used to a building so skiny :haha: (and to think that 107 W 57th would be even skinnier :crazy: ) I corrected it and made it skinnier.

But I think the height is about right, I used 590 Madison AKA IBM Building as a reference, which is 603 ft High with 432 park being 800 ft taller. as you can see in the diagram. Also, GM Building (the one that obscures the lower part of 432 Park) is 705 ft tall, almost exactly half as tall as 432, But obviously, being it nearer, it would look taller than that from that point.

http://imageshack.us/a/img21/5216/6npi.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img833/8453/qv7u.jpg

[forj]

you might be right as far as 432 in relation to the building below and around it in that shot.. its hard to tell exactly how things would look from this angle ( northwest side of the sheep meadow ). 432 would definitely be a little further away than One57 from here. i would still think that 432 would appear taller, although being a few hundred feet further away would probably compensate for the height difference from this point and make them about the same apparent hieght

[NYguy]

http://www.designboom.com/architecture/richard-berenholtz-captures-construction-of-nys-tallest-building/

richard berenholtz captures construction of NY's tallest building


http://www.designboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/richard-berenholtz-432-park-avenue-designboom-01.jpg


September 24, 2013






richard berenholtz started his career as an architect, after graduating from columbia university in 1974. after a number of years working at several well-known firms including I.M. pei and partners, his interest in focusing on the formal and structural details of buildings lead him to photography. since then, berenholtz has been documenting the ever changing landscape--the detractions and additions--of new york city's skyline. the two-dimensional medium has given berenholtz free creative reign to frame and present architecture from his own perspective, capturing the characteristics and overlooked aspects of a building as more than just a physical structure, but as a composition of patterns and textures.

in continuing to add to his extensive portfolio of images depicting the metropolis, berenholtz was commissioned to archive the construction of the rafael viñoly-designed '432 park avenue'. since december 2011, the architectural photographer has been chronicling the progress on what is slated to become the tallest building in new york, and the greater western hemisphere, from the ground up.

positioned between 56th and 57th street, the streamlined elegance of the structure is set to ascend to a height of 1,396 feet--a 96 storey concrete, steel and glass skyscraper with 10 x 10 foot windows lining the facade that will filter sunlight through the living units, while offering expansive views of central park, the hudson and east rivers, atlantic ocean, as well as the already distinct manhattan cityscape from the interior. co-developed by CIM group and macklowe properties, the individual residences will feature private elevator landings and their own service entrances, eat-in kitchens, glazed his-and-her bathrooms and large master suits with adjoining dressing rooms.

richard berenholtz will be documenting the construction of 432 park avenue to its completion


http://www.designboom.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/richard-berenholtz-432-park-avenue-designboom-03.jpg

[King DenCity]

It's... So... Beautiful!

[sbarn]

Construction photos and update from last Friday:

http://fieldcondition.com/blog/2013/...tember-14-2013 (http://fieldcondition.com/blog/2013/9/2/construction-update-432-park-avenue-rafael-vinoly-architects-august-28-2013)



Great photos!

[McSky]

I'm mystified as to why Berenholtz has decided to take all the photos of the 432 Park Avenue construction process in B&W. So much information and atmosphere is lost thereby. Fifty years from now, will people really want to look at B&W photos taken in 2013? What's the point? Also, his photos seem overly processed and sharpened. Give me the color photos like those posted by NYGuy and Field Condition any day.

[pnapp1]

I'm mystified as to why Berenholtz has decided to take all the photos of the 432 Park Avenue construction process in B&W. So much information and atmosphere is lost thereby. Fifty years from now, will people really want to look at B&W photos taken in 2013? What's the point? Also, his photos seem overly processed and sharpened. Give me the color photos like those posted by NYGuy and Field Condition any day.

I'm sure the originals are in color. I for one love the b&w's but that's just me.

[Yankee fan for life]

my clip of 432

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5R-AKkVz-A

[babybackribs2314]

I'm mystified as to why Berenholtz has decided to take all the photos of the 432 Park Avenue construction process in B&W. So much information and atmosphere is lost thereby. Fifty years from now, will people really want to look at B&W photos taken in 2013? What's the point? Also, his photos seem overly processed and sharpened. Give me the color photos like those posted by NYGuy and Field Condition any day.

The Berenholtz issue is moot, though. The B&W is annoying but we have so many posters & places that have MORE photos than Berenholtz (like YIMBY ;)) so it's totally fine.

[JACKinBeantown]

I'm sure the originals are in color. I for one love the b&w's but that's just me.

The originals are clearly in color. You can tell by the lack of contrast. Glad I'm not the only one annoyed by the choice of posting them as black & white to make it seem more faux artsy.

[ih8pickingusernames]

Does anyone think it looks too tall?

[NYguy]

I'm mystified as to why Berenholtz has decided to take all the photos of the 432 Park Avenue construction process in B&W. So much information and atmosphere is lost thereby. Fifty years from now, will people really want to look at B&W photos taken in 2013? What's the point? Also, his photos seem overly processed and sharpened. Give me the color photos like those posted by NYGuy and Field Condition any day.

I'm sure the posting of b&w was deliberate, and I do hope that when the project is completed, that collection of his will be printed in a volume. I'd be glad to purchase it. As you've noted, there are more than enough color photos for us to look at, even video. But 50 years from now? I can tell you that when I look at old photos of NYC in b&w, never once do I wish they were in color. And in this case, we'll have a choice, so I really don't see a problem.

[supertallchaser]

Does anyone think it looks too tall?

must be the profile of the tower in relation to its height :shrug:

[JACKinBeantown]

I'm sure the posting of b&w was deliberate...

Absolutely. The building's website is designed to appeal to the billionaires who are the target market for purchasing units in this building. Historically, black & white photography has always had a certain "high class" cache to it, so it makes sense that they'd turn the color photos into B&W to appeal to those seeking a high class place to live/invest. You can be sure they didn't think for one second when they designed the website, "Hmmm... I wonder if those guys at Skyscraperpage.com would prefer to see black & white photos of this building over color."

[Forrest Dweller]

Just noticed that the "big yellow platform" mounted on the Park ave. side (maybe starting at floor level 20????) is actually a functioning, quick, elevator. I suspect that machinery needed to do ruff finish work can be crane lifted to the platform one time, and then shuttled to the "next" floor as needed. This will probably run all the way to the top ?

[Skyguy_7]

^ That elevator is mainly used for shifting the floor forms and bracing from the completed floors up to the next level to be poured. The process is typically done per the pic below, but they can't utilize large forms on this project due to those 10' window sizes.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Pc0Ce0cRuqo/UkWqXiueNWI/AAAAAAAAAMM/UdLJzzFX_CY/w732-h549-no/IMG_9965.jpg

[Tectonic]

09.27.13

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3676/9972721705_9f326b1b10_o.jpg

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3699/9972721505_c160882e39_o.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5475/9972721375_f943aca60b_o.jpg
©tectonic

[ThatOneGuy]

http://oi43.tinypic.com/nd7wiv.jpg

[Tectonic]

http://imageshack.us/a/img33/9128/y0af.jpg
©tectonic

[ILNY]

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7320/10002763996_987650f04c_b.jpg


http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5459/10002688714_2ae198a019_b.jpg


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http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7294/10002640704_820810a6ca_b.jpg


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http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5504/10002750913_a36ec0084d_b.jpg



...and if you like B&W

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3766/10002829863_05e3dda174_b.jpg

[CalibratedZeus]

Friday night, Top of the Rock....

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5513/10003556956_5c00483f8e_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/10003556956/)
Sep 28/29 NYC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/10003556956/) by calibratedzeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/67172991@N06/), on Flickr

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2813/10003495774_a9e70d0797_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/10003495774/)
Sep 28/29 NYC (http://www.flickr.com/photos/67172991@N06/10003495774/) by calibratedzeus (http://www.flickr.com/people/67172991@N06/), on Flickr

[sw5710]

Now the core is up to apparent window level 35, or actual floor 31 at 543', the next core jump will achieve two things. It will reach the next MEP floor at apparent window levels 36, or actual floor 32 at 558' passing the Washington Monument. :)

[Onn]

Here she comes! :yes:

[King DenCity]

^ Exciting!

[mrnyc]

getting hard to shoot the whole of the bldg now, unless you are looking at it from way up in another one nearby!

[NYguy]

http://www.doka.com/web/references/index.us.php?refid=12728

432 Park Avenue

With a height of 425m, 432 Park Ave. will become the tallest building in New York City to the roof, surpassing both the new and old World Trade Center buildings, and second tallest in total height behind One World Trade Center.



http://www.doka.com/web/media/images/references/432-Park-Avenue_03.jpg



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http://www.doka.com/web/media/images/references/bp_432-Park-Avenue_02.jpg

[NewYorque]

Hello, I just have a question:

I love the shape of that building. It's like a giant stick, extremely thin, something never built before. So I was wondering: how a 400m+ tall tower can be such thin as that ??

I thought that 400m+ tall towers were forced to have a "triangular" (Burj Khalifa) or "massive" (1WTC) shape, to be stable enough.
However when I look at 432 Park Avenue, I may think that, one day there's a strong wind in NY, the building would fall like a tree.

What is the secret in architecture of 432 Park Avenue that enables this thin supertall tower to remain straight and stable ??

Deep foundations?
Double concrete core??

Thanks :)

[drumz0rz]

Strong concrete (although not 1 WTC strong) and lots of rebar. That's basically all this building is. Your assumptions on the structures of supertalls are incorrect.

The original twins rose just as tall on a thin outer wall and a meager core. The buildings were very light-weight and did sway a lot in the wind. Being built out of concrete, this tower will be more rigid. It's also a LOT smaller, so the wind effects will be greatly diminished.

[scalziand]

^To be specific, this tower is using 12,000 psi concrete, whereas 1WTC uses 14,000 psi. Just a little bit weaker. Also, the mechanical levels are open to the air, providing a path for the wind to go through the tower.

[jdrinboston]

Any idea why we didn't see a core jump this week? Based on the past few weeks, I assumed we would have seen one on Sarurday or today.

[sw5710]

The last core jump was 9 days ago on 9/21/13
On SSC they had mentioned that the core is
up to the next MEP level, and there might be more
work to be done before a jump.

[jdrinboston]

The last core jump was 9 days ago on 9/21/13
On SSC they had mentioned that the core is
up to the next MEP level, and there might be more
work to be done before a jump.

Forgive me , I'm still not completely up on construction jargon. MEP = Mechanical, Electric, & Plumbing?

[sw5710]

Forgive me , I'm still not completely up on construction jargon. MEP = Mechanical, Electric, & Plumbing?

Yes, the Mechanical floors that will be open floors.

[NYguy]

(October 1, 2013)


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152655868/large.jpg
www.432park.com


http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/152655868/original.jpg

[sw5710]

It looks like they opened up part of the decking on the current floor, on the Park Ave side.

[Surrealplaces]

^Nice update shots!

[sw5710]

Core Jump. The 1st MEP level is exposed now. You can see areas on the core that the MEP will tie into I believe.

[CCs77]

The Park Ave cam has been moved, in fact it is not longer at Park Ave (but they didn't change the name) Now it is atop the Citigroup Center at Lexington.

http://imageshack.us/a/img11/2489/lg88.jpg

[sw5710]

The Park Ave cam has been moved, in fact it is not longer at Park Ave (but they didn't change the name) Now it is atop the Citigroup Center at Lexington.

http://imageshack.us/a/img11/2489/lg88.jpg

Now it is called the 53rd Street cam.

[Danielson27]

great progress!:)...Has this surpassed the height of the Park Avenue Tower(561ft/171m)?

[sw5710]

The perimeter jump today takes us up to the 33rd apparent level at 511'
The core is at apparent level 35 now or 543' Just subtract 4 to get actual floor count.

[ILNY]

^ 156' more to 50% height.

[Forrest Dweller]

Today, the supports for the next floor pour are really sprouting up quick, and orderly. The "Park street Yellow" elevator is paying off big time.