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blueandgoldguy
Apr 1, 2019, 6:07 PM
Yes.
EDIT: It's 4 years apparently, if I recall correctly.
They never released details of his contract extension back in 2017. Same with Chevy's extension.
Why on earth would a team extend a coach 4 years after back-to-back misses of the playoffs in 2016 and 2017? 2 or 3 years should be the max. It's not like Maurice would have been in demand elsewhere so there would have been no need to lock him up that long. He was coaching overseas when the Jets hired him after all.
bomberjet
Apr 1, 2019, 6:15 PM
Also Jets are doing the same setup as last year for the whiteout parties. Tickets are $5 with proceeds going to united way. Goal is to minimize abuse of the ticketing system. As, go figure, there were a ton of free tickets that went unused last year.
cheswick
Apr 1, 2019, 7:17 PM
They never released details of his contract extension back in 2017. Same with Chevy's extension.
Why on earth would a team extend a coach 4 years after back-to-back misses of the playoffs in 2016 and 2017? 2 or 3 years should be the max. It's not like Maurice would have been in demand elsewhere so there would have been no need to lock him up that long. He was coaching overseas when the Jets hired him after all.
He was actually an analyst on TSN when the Jets hired him. He had coached the prior year in the KHL.
dmacc
Apr 1, 2019, 7:24 PM
^ I think you're mistaken, he was an Analyst on TSN but then left to coach in the KHL as a way to hone and maintain his skills as a coach.
blueandgoldguy
Apr 1, 2019, 11:43 PM
either way i would be baffled by a 4-year contract extension. That doesn't make sense given the 2 seasons prior.
Jammon
Apr 2, 2019, 9:30 PM
I like the fire Maurice part. All coaches have a limited shelf life. 6 years with one team is pretty good and better then most coaches would get given his record.
If the Jets are eliminated in the first round, he should be canned, but will True North let Chevy do this? I have my doubts as I think Chipman probably puts a lot of value on Maurice's praise and defense of the city. That shouldn't matter...at least not that much in the grand scheme of things when evaluating the results of the team, but sadly I think it will.
Chevy also has a past relationship with Quenneville which might be an option they would consider if the Jets fail miserably post season.
I also would consider trading Laine. He has been a huge distraction this season and I feel like the Jets have moved away from their game just so they can get this kid scoring again. It's been very frustrating and I just don't see the superstar quality in him that others seem to think exists. I would trade him to the Eastern Conference for a top-six defenseman if you can nab one or a more consistent top six forward with a better two-way game.
pspeid
Apr 2, 2019, 10:03 PM
I also would consider trading Laine. He has been a huge distraction this season and I feel like the Jets have moved away from their game just so they can get this kid scoring again. It's been very frustrating and I just don't see the superstar quality in him that others seem to think exists. I would trade him to the Eastern Conference for a top-six defenseman if you can nab one or a more consistent top six forward with a better two-way game.
I would think there are very few "untouchables" on the Jets, except maybe for Scheifele, especially of the Jets exit the playoffs in the first round or two. Whatever happens I wouldn't be surprised to see at least a partial teardown/rebuild of the team after this season, along with another couple of years until we get back to the playoffs.
Wpg_Guy
Apr 2, 2019, 10:06 PM
Comrie is starting tonight.
Another terrible stinker against the Wild. It's time to get rid of Maurice. They are a very talented team but he is unable to get the best out of them either with his decision making on who is playing, line or defense matching and motivation. I would really like to see what another coach could do with this team. Definitely time for a change.
Unfortunately, based on their play lately and how so many other teams have raised their level of play, I would be very surprised if they get past the first round.
Curmudgeon
Apr 3, 2019, 5:26 AM
Two games under .500 since the start of February, the Jets are limping into the playoffs and still uncertainty if they will have home ice advantage in the first round. Starting to get nervous.
The Jabroni
Apr 3, 2019, 5:39 AM
Another terrible stinker against the Wild. It's time to get rid of Maurice. They are a very talented team but he is unable to get the best out of them either with his decision making on who is playing, line or defense matching and motivation. I would really like to see what another coach could do with this team. Definitely time for a change.
Unfortunately, based on their play lately and how so many other teams have raised their level of play, I would be very surprised if they get past the first round.
He has one more year after this season. It's too early to think that way, but your questions are still valid. If he royally fucks up next season, he's gone.
No need to get rid of him now. That would be the most stupidest thing ever. I would not like to think he lost the room. At least not yet anyway.
On a side note, there was a closed door meeting right after the game. Whatever was said in that room, I probably wouldn't want to be there, but at the same time, whatever was said should be obvious.
The Jets are coasting into the playoffs at this point, and with 2 games remaining, and Nashville tying us in points tonight, the lack of effort is unacceptable in this time of year. In a way, we were "lucky" to win over Chicago last night, in a game when it should have been a clean win.
This also goes to show how much the Central Division is nothing but a turd cesspool of suck this year. Quite embarrassing for such a demanding conference. Never mind the division.
A first round exit is likely if they continue to play like this. If we manage to take the division, then we face Dallas, and this season, they've had our number.
If we shit the bed in the last two games, and St. Louis takes the division, then I'd be content on taking on Nashville in the 1st round. We've had their number for most of the season. If for some reason we lose the division, and Nashville wins it, we face the Blues, and with the rate they've been going lately, 1st round exit is a possibility.
If we manage to make it through to the 2nd round, then we could either face Nashville or St. Louis, or Dallas.
We can't count our chickens yet if we only have 2 games remaining in the season. Granted we are all emotionally drained, anxious, stressed, etc., and the boys need to get their shit together now.
Anyway, off to bed.
The Jabroni
Apr 3, 2019, 5:48 AM
And just to put things more into perspective, ever since our bye-week in January, we've been 15-15-2. St. Louis started playing hockey after their bye-week, while Nashville is having similar issues like Winnipeg in terms of overall efforts. Dallas and Colorado were hobbled with injuries, and both Chicago and Minnesota wouldn't be too big of a threat in the division this year.
Now there's an 8 point logjam in the entire Central Division, because nobody can put up a consistent effort.
Hence my comment on how the Central is turd cesspool of suck this season.
blueandgoldguy
Apr 3, 2019, 6:13 AM
Comrie is starting tonight.
And that will likely be his last game in a Jets uniform. Every time he gets an opportunity in the big leagues he whiffs badly.
Hey, at least we are not San Jose 1-8-1 in their last 10 games. We are 5-5.
....trying to find a silver lining somewhere.
esquire
Apr 3, 2019, 1:51 PM
At this point, a first round exit is looking more and more likely. I am really baffled by what has happened to this team since Christmas, but they look absolutely lost out there.
esquire
Apr 3, 2019, 1:52 PM
And that will likely be his last game in a Jets uniform. Every time he gets an opportunity in the big leagues he whiffs badly.
Hard to argue. Maybe a change of scenery would be good for him and the team.
CoryB
Apr 3, 2019, 2:45 PM
In terms of goalies the Jets have to be planning for 2021 and the Seattle draft. The Las Vegas draft rules were someone with a set level of NHL experience and under contract for the upcoming season needed to be available. Currently, only Hellebuyck meets that criteria and right now there is not a chance the Jets are letting him go even after his scaled back performance this season. That means they either need to start getting Comrie more NHL experience, expose Brossiot with a contract extension or sign a fourth goalie that would be eligible.
Of those choices getting Comrie the needed experience on throw away games next season is likely the best choice.
I am still not sure why they would have chosen to start Comrie last night as a win would have strongly secured the Jets playoff position. The loss has really put the team under the hammer now, especially if St Louis pulls a win tonight.
bomberjet
Apr 3, 2019, 2:55 PM
They preferred to rest Hellebuyck, which I don't disagree with necessarily. But yes, risk is high now of missing 1st.
They need to win out both games to guarantee 1st. That's it. Win and you're in (well not quite).
optimusREIM
Apr 3, 2019, 3:26 PM
They preferred to rest Hellebuyck, which I don't disagree with necessarily. But yes, risk is high now of missing 1st.
They need to win out both games to guarantee 1st. That's it. Win and you're in (well not quite).
Lol well yes it is because we own the tie breaker against both st Louis and Nashville as crazy as that sounds.
Its wild to think that in December we were beating the lightning in a come from behind ot victory and now we struggle to take care of business against teams that have a snowball's chance in hell of making the playoffs
The Jabroni
Apr 3, 2019, 3:53 PM
Lol well yes it is because we own the tie breaker against both st Louis and Nashville as crazy as that sounds.
Its wild to think that in December we were beating the lightning in a come from behind ot victory and now we struggle to take care of business against teams that have a snowball's chance in hell of making the playoffs
It's been like that all year. We stoop to the level of the basement dwelling teams, or teams that haven't been much of a threat in the division, other than us. Just as when we got out of that mindset (see last season), it suddenly crosses into our minds again this season.
We just have to win 2 games, or 1 win and any combination of St. Louis and Nashville losing in regulation, and we clinch the division.
bomberjet
Apr 3, 2019, 4:08 PM
I still feel like the Jets don't get up for games. Yesterday was back to back, sure. They seem uninterested or lazy a lot of the time. Whet hey actually play hard, they dominate. It's like they're saving energy waiting for playoffs.
rrskylar
Apr 3, 2019, 4:08 PM
^ I think you're mistaken, he was an Analyst on TSN but then left to coach in the KHL as a way to hone and maintain his skills as a coach.
He went to the KHL because no one in the NHL would hire him, well until the Jets came along, big demand for the most losing coach in NHL in history!
esquire
Apr 3, 2019, 4:14 PM
I still feel like the Jets don't get up for games. Yesterday was back to back, sure. They seem uninterested or lazy a lot of the time. Whet hey actually play hard, they dominate. It's like they're saving energy waiting for playoffs.
For a while I thought they were just in cruise control and trying to avoid last season's fate where they dominated and then burned out in the playoffs. But it's starting to look like they can't actually pull it off anymore, even if they wanted to.
I was going to say something similar... they were cruising and now are trying to ignite the fuse but can't find the switch.
It's like they forgot how to play hockey.
bomberjet
Apr 3, 2019, 5:29 PM
Hopefully once the emotions of playoffs come, and the memories of falling short last year, they get it together. Other than that, maybe it's time for some changes to the coaching staff. if the team isn't playing for the coach, regardless of opinions on said coach, he's gotta go.
dmacc
Apr 5, 2019, 12:51 PM
Son of a bitch
esquire
Apr 5, 2019, 12:56 PM
On the bright side, the Moose are on one hell of a tear and have gone from last place at Christmas to being in a playoff position :)
It's to the point where I'm more optimistic about their playoff chances than I am about the Jets :uhh:
Bluenote
Apr 5, 2019, 2:28 PM
On the bright side, the Moose are on one hell of a tear and have gone from last place at Christmas to being in a playoff position :)
It's to the point where I'm more optimistic about their playoff chances than I am about the Jets :uhh:
It will be a first round exit if not a sweep if they keep playing like they dont care. Maurice is the issue and needs to go.
Wpg_Guy
Apr 7, 2019, 3:23 AM
How fitting, from the new movie Breakthrough starring Chrissy Metz, which is set in Missouri, filmed in Winnipeg, The St. Louis Arch ominously looms over the Winnipeg Skyline and Golden Boy.:haha::haha:
https://i.imgur.com/Yvdhh2Q.jpg?1
Hopefully once the emotions of playoffs come, and the memories of falling short last year, they get it together. Other than that, maybe it's time for some changes to the coaching staff. if the team isn't playing for the coach, regardless of opinions on said coach, he's gotta go.
Agree fully! :tup:
The talent is there but the coaching isn't.
pspeid
Apr 9, 2019, 2:29 PM
Agree fully! :tup:
The talent is there but the coaching isn't.
Only the players themselves know if they have lost faith in their coach (or in each other), so this is purely conjecture: IF they have lost faith in the coach I would guess it probably happened when the Jets lost four straight to the Golden Knights in last year's playoffs. After taking the first game they seemed to have no answers to the Knight's response, and PERHAPS Maurice couldn't find one for them?? Like I said, all amateur conjecture. Otherwise I hope the Jets can "flip the switch" as Maurice has suggested and have a good playoff run. Go jets!
esquire
Apr 10, 2019, 4:48 PM
Game day
Cleared for takeoff
HERE WE GO!!!
Ando
Apr 10, 2019, 4:50 PM
I'm excited. New season ... hopefully.
bomberjet
Apr 10, 2019, 5:11 PM
Woop woop! My prediction is Binnington will fall apart and the Jets PP will take advantage.
I noticed Jets running the PP from the opposite side recently. Maybe it was just the natural progression of play and not planned. But I think if they can tweak the PP, they'll win hands down.
Not to get ahead of things. But conference finals really is where my concern is. Calgary has the Jets number. SJS and VGK are also very tough. That being said if they cant get past STL, they don't deserve anything.
optimusREIM
Apr 10, 2019, 5:21 PM
Let's go!!!!!! Ok so my thoughts are this. If the jets can manage to really just hit reset and play the way they have against teams like the blues, we should be fine. I think we should put up a good fight in the first round at the least and certainly won't be pushovers.
This is a new season more or less, we can do this. Jets in 6 is my prediction. I also have Dallas moving on so we would meet them in round 2. That would be interesting
Biff
Apr 10, 2019, 7:40 PM
My prediction is really simple and sounds like I have never watched hockey before but...
If the Jets win tonight they win the series in 6 (W, W, L, W, L, W)
If the Jets lose tonight they get eliminated in 5
Bluenote
Apr 11, 2019, 3:33 AM
Typical Jets fashion. Play for two periods then shit the bag. This coach needs to go.
One more street party and thats it. Sorry to say as i thoought they would change for the playoffs. And for two periods they did. Then back to the norm acting like they had a 20 goal advantage.
esquire
Apr 11, 2019, 12:48 PM
It is so odd. Last half of the second period the Jets just relinquished control of the game to St. Louis. It seems like there is no lead this team can't blow in the final ten minutes.
Not to get overly dramatic, but I think it's fair to say the Jets win on Friday or it's over.
bomberjet
Apr 11, 2019, 2:46 PM
Jets turn it on and off so quick it's mindboggling.
Binnington played very well again last night. Saved a few sure goals. Hopefully he's not going to be the Marc Andre Fleury from last year.
Jammon
Apr 12, 2019, 3:31 PM
Jets turn it on and off so quick it's mindboggling.
Binnington played very well again last night. Saved a few sure goals. Hopefully he's not going to be the Marc Andre Fleury from last year.
I think today is a must-win. If they are down two going into STL, they are pretty much done. Not that it can't be done- Washington did it last year against Columbus.
bomberjet
Apr 12, 2019, 4:15 PM
Looks like Tanev is back in tonight. He brings something they missed in game 1.
If they go down 2-0 heading to STL, not good. But not done either. We'll see how Binnington does tonight.
IMO, need Buff on PP1. Trouba is not the same threat as Buff.
Edit: Tanev confirmed in for tonight.
esquire
Apr 12, 2019, 4:27 PM
I think today is a must-win. If they are down two going into STL, they are pretty much done. Not that it can't be done- Washington did it last year against Columbus.
The 18-19 Jets are definitely not the 17-18 Caps. It's pretty much do or die tonight.
dmacc
Apr 12, 2019, 4:33 PM
The 18-19 Jets are definitely not the 17-18 Caps. It's pretty much do or die tonight.
The Caps weren't particularly impressive in the regular season last year.
DLLB
Apr 13, 2019, 1:20 AM
The 18-19 Jets are definitely not the 17-18 Caps. It's pretty much do or die tonight.
If they lose tonight, it is virtually over for this year. I can't see them coming back from 0-2. I still think Maurice has to go.
Bluenote
Apr 13, 2019, 5:48 AM
If they lose tonight, it is virtually over for this year. I can't see them coming back from 0-2. I still think Maurice has to go.
Welll besides the overvalued Hellesuck, Maurice is the number one cancer on this team.
esquire
Apr 13, 2019, 2:17 PM
I'd love to be wrong, but with two losses at home and Hellebuyck now having lost 6 playoff games in a row, I have hard time seeing the Jets bouncing back here.
Prove me wrong, Jets!!!
VANRIDERFAN
Apr 13, 2019, 2:55 PM
I'd love to be wrong, but with two losses at home and Hellebuyck now having lost 6 playoff games in a row, I have hard time seeing the Jets bouncing back here.
Prove me wrong, Jets!!!
Time to toss the kid in goal?
Please please prove me wrong as well/
Lord help us if those god damn Leafs get to the next round. Toronto fans will be more insufferable than usual!
GreyGarden
Apr 13, 2019, 4:51 PM
I think the Jets got a sense of what it would take to go all the way last year and aren't willing to sacrifice what it takes to get there this year. Even though they got to the 3rd round they only got a game over being half way to the Cup. I don't know if its a maturity issue, or being too young but the Blues look like they want it way more then the Jets do. There doesn't seem to be any buy in from our team. If we don't come back from this I think Maurice has to go.
I also think Scheifele might have a broken rib or something, some type of playable injury that hurts him every time he takes a stride or gets bumped.
rrskylar
Apr 13, 2019, 6:07 PM
Either Maurice is a good coach and the talent isn't here or Chevy has assembled a good team talent wise and Maurice isn't a good coach. Chevy and TNSE need to figure it out soon!:hell:
rrskylar
Apr 13, 2019, 6:09 PM
I'd love to be wrong, but with two losses at home and Hellebuyck now having lost 6 playoff games in a row, I have hard time seeing the Jets bouncing back here.
Prove me wrong, Jets!!!
Got my forums mixed and tried to like your post!:???:
blueandgoldguy
Apr 14, 2019, 12:41 AM
I'm just about done with Maurice and his bizarre allocation of minutes among the players.
DLLB
Apr 15, 2019, 1:29 AM
Either Maurice is a good coach and the talent isn't here or Chevy has assembled a good team talent wise and Maurice isn't a good coach. Chevy and TNSE need to figure it out soon!:hell:
I think the talent is there and the problem is Maurice.
Andy6
Apr 15, 2019, 3:07 AM
I think the talent is there and very similar levels of talent are on most of the other NHL teams. So not everything goes the Jets' way.
bomberjet
Apr 15, 2019, 4:01 PM
Jets got the band back together and dominated most of the play last night. Keep this line-up intact and let's go!
Hopefully my earlier prediction about Jets PP sheading Binnington is taking shape. 4 for 9, 44.4% this series.
Even still, once they got up by 2, seems like they sat back a bit. Let STL creep in. That almost giveaway goal by Hellebuyck to Maroon was lazy. Also STL figured out shoot low blocker on Helle. Need to sort that out.
How bout them Blue Jackets, on the other hand!
pspeid
Apr 15, 2019, 6:13 PM
How bout them Blue Jackets, on the other hand!
My dream and the NHL's nightmare is to have a Winnipeg/Columbus final. Two "small markets" in the final? Bettman would have kittens! :haha:
optimusREIM
Apr 17, 2019, 5:41 AM
Well how about that?
dmacc
Apr 17, 2019, 12:56 PM
I'd like to say I knew all along but who am I kidding, I wrote them off after game 2. Way to go boys.
esquire
Apr 17, 2019, 1:05 PM
The switch has been flipped!
https://clipground.com/images/turn-on-clipart-2.jpg
But seriously, all but game 3 felt like they turned on the tiniest of margins with so many things that could have swung either way. Could have easily been 3-0 STL after the first period yesterday, but the Jets battled hard to stay in it. The intensity of this series reminds me of what we saw vs. Nashville last year.
I just hope that if the Jets advance, that they aren't gassed the same way they seemed to be after the Nashville series...
Ando
Apr 17, 2019, 6:35 PM
I think that was the most intense game I have seen. Dare to dream?
optimusREIM
Apr 17, 2019, 7:01 PM
I think that was the most intense game I have seen. Dare to dream?
Well it's not inconceivable that they get out of this round now. If they do manage to win this series then the sky's the limit
bomberjet
Apr 17, 2019, 7:17 PM
Judging by my family in St. louis, the series is over. Blues are out, Jets are moving on. haha
Jets look to have found their game. Both goalies are keeping the series close now. Huge game 5 tomorrow! My voice has almost recovered from game 2. Will ruin it again tomorrow!
EdwardTH
Apr 17, 2019, 7:17 PM
Well it's not inconceivable that they get out of this round now. If they do manage to win this series then the sky's the limit
With the way the first round has played out so far I feel like the entire playoffs is anybody's game now.
dmacc
Apr 17, 2019, 7:29 PM
I'd like to say it's over but with the exception of game 3 this series is way to close to call. I would give us the edge because of home ice advantage... not that that has meant anything this series.
bomberjet
Apr 17, 2019, 7:33 PM
Despite the close score of last nights game, I didn't ever feel like I did in game 1, when the Jets looked like shit. They looked real good last night. There's always a few blunders, but overall I'm feeling confident.
Goldie
Apr 17, 2019, 9:07 PM
Hate the Blue Bombers; LOVE the Jets !!!! :notacrook:
The Jabroni
Apr 18, 2019, 5:02 AM
I'm telling you all right now. This game will go to game 7. I'd be impressed if we settle it in game 6, in St. Louis though, provided that we win tomorrow.
Games 3 and 4 was what they needed. They finally reunited and unblended the lines that shouldn't have been separated in the first place.
With that said, they still have their work cut out for them. Hopefully the Whiteout can help further their momentum for this game and win another one. Definitely a must win for the boys.
esquire
Apr 18, 2019, 12:59 PM
The whiteout advantage may be slightly overstated... what is it about these teams that they're a combined 0-4 at home?
dmacc
Apr 18, 2019, 1:10 PM
I imagine the noise in the arena could be a little overwhelming.
drew
Apr 18, 2019, 1:56 PM
The whiteout is great - provided the Jets score early and keep the game close.
Otherwise if they get down, it just turns into a very nervous energy. Almost counter productive really.
esquire
Apr 18, 2019, 2:00 PM
I was at game 1 and I was a bit surprised by the relative lack of volume. A bit of yelling and screaming when the players hit the ice and some more Go Jets Go chants than at a regular season game. Plus the Binnington booing. But then it settled down. When you watch games from other cities it's not like it's wildly different here.
I remember attending a playoff game in ye olden days vs. Vancouver in 1992 and the fans screamed full throttle from the time the players hit the ice, through the anthem, until after the opening faceoff. Might have been a less buttoned down, corporate crowd in those days, though.
drew
Apr 18, 2019, 2:16 PM
A lot of times previously, the jets just getting into the playoffs was the goal.
Now there are expectations. I think its all good as long as the team is winning or playing well.
bomberjet
Apr 18, 2019, 2:35 PM
I was at game 2, and it was raucous. Maybe had to do with the 8:30 start time, allowing for some wetting of whistles before hand. I expect the same tonight!
YWG-RO
Apr 21, 2019, 5:03 AM
Ouch!
The Jabroni
Apr 21, 2019, 6:15 AM
Can't say I'm surprised, to say the least.
Oh well. The misery is over. There will be changes made in the offseason. Whether I wouldn't rule out Maurice just yet, but he'll be on a shorter leash. I can see Charlie Huddy going, and Trouba, Myers, Perreault, Kulikov gone. Connor, Laine, and Roslovic will need contracts.
There's going to be tough decisions made here. I have no envy for Chevy right now. He has his work cutout for him.
Goldie
Apr 21, 2019, 9:56 AM
Can well agree now that the "whiteout" is a curse?
Next spring, do something - anything - different.
pspeid
Apr 21, 2019, 1:56 PM
There's going to be tough decisions made here. I have no envy for Chevy right now. He has his work cutout for him.
I agree. It's probably going to be at least partial teardown/rebuild. That may not be a bad thing if Chevy can get some good assets/draft picks for the guys they will end up moving. Now if the fans can get over the disappointment over "what might have been" they could be treated to a few interesting years of watching some young talent develop before the next serious playoff push.
The toughest part will be coping with bitterness from some fans and newspaper columnists who somehow feel they were "promised" a Stanley Cup. No promises, boys....it's always going to be a long shot!
optimusREIM
Apr 21, 2019, 2:28 PM
Can well agree now that the "whiteout" is a curse?
Next spring, do something - anything - different.
How? We went to the third round past year and fans had nothing to do with this year's exit
cheswick
Apr 21, 2019, 4:30 PM
Can well agree now that the "whiteout" is a curse?
Next spring, do something - anything - different.
The team hasn’t played well since the new year. What does the whiteout have to do with anything?
The Jabroni
Apr 22, 2019, 12:28 AM
Can well agree now that the "whiteout" is a curse?
Next spring, do something - anything - different.
No.
The Whiteout had nothing to do with the first round exit. We played .500 hockey since January, which is inexcusable. The injuries we had to our top two defencemen can't be used as an excuse either, because we had similar injuries last season, and yet, we managed to use our depth and make it to the West Final.
For some reason, something hasn't been working right. Whether it be the players, the coaches, that has yet to be determined.
Trouba is a question mark coming into the off-season, and honestly, I'd cut him loose and move on. If we manage to keep him, great, but I doubt that we could give him the salary he wants. Not because we can't afford him, but it's because of based on his performance on the ice since the last time we re-signed him.
Anyway, as I mentioned before, Chevy has his work cut out for him.
esquire
Apr 22, 2019, 3:30 AM
Notwithstanding tonight's loss for VGK, it's kind of painful to watch that team with Stone and Stastny and consider what might have been...
bomberjet
Apr 22, 2019, 4:15 PM
Dissapointing season overall for Winnipeg. Lowry said today they just couldn't find their game.. The team will not be the same next year due to the cap. We'll see how everything shakes down.
Of note, Ehlers has a fractured leg. Laine is having ongoing back issues dating back to last season.
Vegas continues to piss me off lol But they are also in a he cap crunch for next year with the Stone contract. William Karlsson needs a contract and is currently making $5mil per. I don't see him re-signing. Hopefully SJ takes them out in Game 7 tomorrow!
Curmudgeon
Apr 23, 2019, 2:54 PM
Keep in mind that after the All-Star break the Jets went 16-15-3 (.515) while the Blues were 23-6-4 (.758). From the break forward only the Minnesota Wild (.438) in the Central Division had a worse record than the Jets. Disappointing of course, but I don't think very many people had high expectations, at least if they were being realistic, so it's not as crushing a loss as it would be for say Lightning or even Flames fans. At least they won a couple and took the series to six games. But for a couple of soft goals in games 1 & 2 and an inexplicable collapse in game 5 it might have been very different.
bomberjet
Apr 23, 2019, 3:03 PM
Agreed. Binnington is the obvious savior for STL. Yes they're playing good. But had a few of those shots beat Binnington, it would be a whole different series. Much like Fleury last year.
esquire
Apr 23, 2019, 3:22 PM
^ STL had such a good, stifling defense that I think a lot of goalies could look good playing for them.
Yeah, I have to agree with curmudgeon... after coasting into the playoffs my expectations were not very high. The team just seemed so listless down the stretch, as compared to last season when they were crushing everything that got in their way.
Interesting media speculation over the weekend about a serious dressing room rift. I find it wild though that the overall dynamic changed so much relative to last season, when the Jets seemed like such a cohesive unit.
bomberjet
Apr 23, 2019, 4:49 PM
I didn't catch much of the Twitter / media frenzy. But have heard there is a rift between Laine and Lowry. Laine eats McDonalds instead of going with the team for dinner. he's lazy, etc. Lowry tries to keep him in line I guess. I could see Buff being on Lowry's side.
pspeid
Apr 23, 2019, 6:15 PM
I didn't catch much of the Twitter / media frenzy. But have heard there is a rift between Laine and Lowry. Laine eats McDonalds instead of going with the team for dinner. he's lazy, etc. Lowry tries to keep him in line I guess. I could see Buff being on Lowry's side.
Interesting. If this is true (and I have no way of knowing, of course) then it would seem that trading Laine while he still has some perceived value could be an off-season priority. Maybe get back some of those draft picks the team spent on their rental players the last couple of years?
bomberjet
Apr 23, 2019, 6:17 PM
Info is from a fairly reliable source on Twitter, whos family member is apparently on the Jets training staff. But ya, I have no way of confirming that. I would also assume that virtually every team I pro sports has some type of locker room drama.
cheswick
Apr 23, 2019, 6:22 PM
I didn't catch much of the Twitter / media frenzy. But have heard there is a rift between Laine and Lowry. Laine eats McDonalds instead of going with the team for dinner. he's lazy, etc. Lowry tries to keep him in line I guess. I could see Buff being on Lowry's side.
Buff is on the non-lazy non mcdonalds eating side? If you say so.
esquire
Apr 23, 2019, 6:34 PM
What was the specific problem that Hendricks was brought in to address? I still find it hard to believe that the team would effectively trade for a healthy scratch depth player for the sole purpose of providing leadership on a team where there are already several proven veterans and an experienced coach. I don't get what kind of problem a team needs to have in the dressing room to take that step.
blueandgoldguy
Apr 24, 2019, 1:01 AM
What was the specific problem that Hendricks was brought in to address? I still find it hard to believe that the team would effectively trade for a healthy scratch depth player for the sole purpose of providing leadership on a team where there are already several proven veterans and an experienced coach. I don't get what kind of problem a team needs to have in the dressing room to take that step.
Yes, and it sure seemed to work, didn't it?
Maybe Buff needs to throw Laine's PS4 in the shower.
esquire
Apr 24, 2019, 2:57 AM
:haha:
pspeid
Apr 24, 2019, 2:26 PM
What was the specific problem that Hendricks was brought in to address? I still find it hard to believe that the team would effectively trade for a healthy scratch depth player for the sole purpose of providing leadership on a team where there are already several proven veterans and an experienced coach. I don't get what kind of problem a team needs to have in the dressing room to take that step.
Perhaps one of the larger contributors to the locker room problems that have been reported? I can't imagine Hendricks endeared himself to anyone on the team when he took away the job of one of the guys who was with them all year and then woefully underproduced the rest of the season.
esquire
Apr 24, 2019, 2:43 PM
^ But Hendricks was only around for the tail end of the season and by all accounts, little was expected of him in terms of on-ice productivity anyway.
https://nhl.bamcontent.com/images/photos/306948262/640x360/cut.jpg
I find the dynamic surrounding the Jets these days so weird. I mean, look at the picture above, you have the former Mr. Enthusiasm Mark Scheifele looking sullen and withdrawn like a kid who lost his dog, and Wheeler is just irritable and belligerent all the time now. Is Wheeler the cause of some of these problems with his anger management issues or is he just frustrated? Laine looks lost, and Byfuglien says nothing as usual. What is going on with this bunch?
Ando
Apr 24, 2019, 7:42 PM
Notwithstanding tonight's loss for VGK, it's kind of painful to watch that team with Stone and Stastny and consider what might have been...
Picking up Stone would have been massive for the organization. Too bad Chevy couldn't get it done.
Ando
Apr 24, 2019, 7:44 PM
I didn't catch much of the Twitter / media frenzy. But have heard there is a rift between Laine and Lowry. Laine eats McDonalds instead of going with the team for dinner. he's lazy, etc. Lowry tries to keep him in line I guess. I could see Buff being on Lowry's side.
It's sure not hard anymore to figure out that Austin Matthews was definitely the right pick at no. 1.
Ando
Apr 24, 2019, 7:49 PM
What was the specific problem that Hendricks was brought in to address? I still find it hard to believe that the team would effectively trade for a healthy scratch depth player for the sole purpose of providing leadership on a team where there are already several proven veterans and an experienced coach. I don't get what kind of problem a team needs to have in the dressing room to take that step.
When they brought Hendricks back, the story was that it was a result of a request by Schiefle and Wheeler. But I agree it was a weird thing to do. The leadership should be there already. Wheeler doesn't have the temperament to wear the C and represent the team the way it should be. Why Byfuglien has an A has always been beyond me. Apparently he was the first in a cab and away from the arena after the game. I would give the C to Morrissey for next year.
cheswick
Apr 24, 2019, 7:51 PM
Perhaps one of the larger contributors to the locker room problems that have been reported? I can't imagine Hendricks endeared himself to anyone on the team when he took away the job of one of the guys who was with them all year and then woefully underproduced the rest of the season.
The only reason Hendricks was brought in was because of his positive influence last season. Can't imagine his grand total of 4 games played was an issue with many, if any of the players.
Ando
Apr 24, 2019, 8:08 PM
Yeah, exactly, it didn't really make any sense, and it didn't work - and obviously there are some serious problems in the leadership group.
bomberjet
Apr 24, 2019, 8:30 PM
It's sure not hard anymore to figure out that Austin Matthews was definitely the right pick at no. 1.
IMO that was never a serious debate. If Winnipeg landed #1, obviously would've taken Matthews.
DLLB
Apr 25, 2019, 1:16 AM
It's time for a coaching change. Maurice is not the right person for the job. Nothing will change with him at the helm. I would give Laine another couple of years as the talent is there. He is still very young and still has time to learn what is needed to win, not just score.
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