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SpongeG
May 2, 2007, 11:32 PM
thought some mind find this interesting

How different cities take out their trash

Seattle fines you for tossing recyclables. Calgary charges a refundable deposit on bottles.

From municipality to borough in Canada, the rules for garbage are as diverse as the trash itself. It can be public or private, and in many places, a matter of considerable debate.

In Calgary, where collection is funded by tax dollars, suggestions have been made about switching to a pay system to make the service more equitable.

"We've been asked: 'How does someone benefit if they are recycling and backyard composting, versus someone who might be routinely putting out multiple bags each week?" explains Dave Griffiths, Calgary's waste and recycling director.

Vancouver already charges by the litre for garbage, making citizens accountable for what's tossed to the curb. New York has incentives to deal with the city's high trash volume, including a reward for reporting illegal dumpers. San Francisco, with its 75 per cent recycling goal, is the most environmentally progressive.

In Toronto, where the city spends about $180 per household on garbage collection, a user-pay system like Vancouver's, is being actively considered. Details of a formal proposal should be known in the next few months.

Public collection is currently covered by property taxes. The city takes care of half a million homes and commercial dwellings on main routes, such as through Chinatown and other large streets with stores and restaurants. Trash, recycling, yard waste and organic compost are all picked up. The only refuse refused are bins exceeding 20 kilograms.

As Toronto and other centres look for ways to reduce waste and lessen overloaded property taxes, how exactly are other major municipalities in North America cleaning up at the curb?

New York
Due to high downtown density, New York City collects an average of 12,000 U.S. tons of trash a day. Trucks go out as often as two to three times a week to households, small businesses and schools.

Collection is covered by property taxes. The finance department assesses each property differently, for example, according to size. This also includes regular pickup of recycling and yard waste, but not organic waste.

For large complexes, garbage is a private matter, carted away for a fee by one of the city's large waste companies.

New York is one of the most ruthless municipalities when it comes to collection rules. A resident forgetting a holiday schedule change could be fined for garbage sitting at the curb on the wrong day.

An incentive plan also helps curtail waste. The "illegal dumping awards program" grants 50 per cent of the collected fine to anyone signing an affidavit that leads to a conviction. In some cases, fines can reach upwards of $40,000 US.

Future garbage initiatives include a 20-year solid waste plan that will increase the variety of plastics recyclable and introduce a new recycling education campaign.

Seattle
In Seattle, apartment buildings and businesses are fined for not recycling, while residents who toss bottles into their trash will have their bags left behind.

The city administers and monitors garbage service, which is handled entirely by private companies that bill households six times a year. City inspectors check to see private companies are doing their job, and make sure no recyclables make it into trash bags.

As Brett Stav of Seattle Public Utilities explains, the city's trash policy focuses on giving people a reason to throw out less and recycle more.

"In America, when it's in your property tax, people don't even look at those things," says Stav. "We provide incentives for people to get things out of the garbage."

In a pay-as-you-throw system, residents select an appropriately sized garbage can. It costs them from about $10 US a month for a can holding 12 gallons (about 45.5 litres), to about $50 US for a can holding 96 gallons (about 364 litres).

The city, which has a recycling rate of nearly 50 per cent, also offers a reduction in costs for organic waste collection from businesses. They pay about 20 per cent less than what it would cost to put vegetable scraps into the garbage.

Vancouver
In Vancouver, a similar pay system regulates garbage collection. The city's smallest garbage container costs $70 a year and holds 75 litres (about one bag). The largest for $147 a year packs in about 360 litres (four or five large bags).

Putting out more bags on occasion is possible by purchasing pay-as-you-go tickets at your local Safeway or city outlets.

To be more efficient, Vancouver's trucks have been automated. A driver uses a robotic system to raise and dump the cans. The pay-can system with its maximum weights and its requirement that cans be fully closed helps make automation possible.

"There's really good compliance and people are enthusiastic," says Brian Davies, assistant city solid waste engineer, about the pay-as-you-throw program.

The city also charges $10 to $20, depending on the type of dwelling, to pick up recyclable materials.

Concerned with cleanliness and aesthetics, Vancouver only collects from back alleyways rather than front lawns.

Houses are part of public collection, whereas most apartment complexes and businesses pay private companies.

Montreal
Collection happens often in Montreal. The city picks up garbage from most boroughs twice a week, taking care of homes and community dwellings like libraries and churches.

Since amalgamation, a couple of formerly suburban boroughs still pay a slight service fee for collection. Private companies are responsible for garbage collection from businesses, smaller restaurants and office towers.

The city doles out fines to people who don't comply with collection rules. Offences include putting recyclables in the trash or leaving couches at the curb side too long. Residents pay fines from $50 to $500, while businesses may forfeit up to $1,000.

Montreal recycles and picks up yard waste and Christmas trees, but it doesn't have an organic waste program.

Calgary
Calgary has no municipal recycling pickup. In the early 1990s, the city opened drop-off centres as part of an incentives program. People return glass, cans and plastic to retrieve a 10- or 20-cent deposit. (Recovery rates are about 80 per cent.) Other depots take in outdoor mulch for six weeks in the fall.

Spring and fall yard waste is collected, but pickup is limited to five bags, including yard and regular waste, with regular waste the priority.

The city collects garbage from homes no larger than four-plexes, while private companies take care of the rest. As in other municipalities, larger dwellings like businesses, restaurants and office towers pay a fee to private companies for pickup.



http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/garbage/

KevinFromTexas
May 3, 2007, 4:24 AM
In Austin the city has a strong recycling program. It's picked up once a week on the same day as our trash. Glass, plastic jugs, aluminum and tin cans as well as paper. We started recycling so much stuff that we went and got a 2nd bin and a 3rd seperate one for our paper. It's great because we just about have no garbage thanks to the recycling program.

alon504
May 3, 2007, 4:44 AM
We used to have recycling in New Orleans. Every house had it's own recycle bin and we used it faithfully, as did all of our neighors. We had our own recycle pick up day and you would see recycle bins everywhere. But, the recycle program got cancelled...it's been almost 5 years. Why? It cost twice as much to do the recycle program as to what was coming in with revenue. For an example, the program cost about $85 million a year to run, but, the revenue from recycling only brought in about $41 million a year. After a couple of years of this occurring, the city scrapped it...it was a HUGE money loss venture. Now we throw it ALL away together, and from what I understand the seperation now takes place in the dump, not in the individual home.

TMitch
May 3, 2007, 5:48 AM
It always surprises me how Manhattan seems to deal with the trash. I'm shocked to see bag after bag of trash sitting on the sidewalks of NYC late at night. It just seems odd. But I guess they really a hard time managing the pick up trucks around the city during the day.

It does seem in the places I've been that recycling is not as enforced as much as it once was.

nygirl1
May 3, 2007, 5:51 AM
We generally toss our garbage in the proper dispenser: Staten Island.... Actually not really anymore but I still do.

DecoJim
May 3, 2007, 6:26 PM
Besides trash collection there is the disposal issue.
I am suprised that the article did not mention that Toronto finds it most cost effective to send an average of 350 truckloads of trash each day to Michigan landfills were it costs just pennies a ton to dump it. Michigan governer Granholm has been trying to do something about this for years but opponents say this would interfere with international "commerce". Will Michigan residents have to pay more for their own trash disposal once the local landfills are full of Toronto trash?

Jersey Mentality
May 3, 2007, 7:06 PM
We generally toss our garbage in the proper dispenser: Staten Island.... Actually not really anymore but I still do.

I heard they are decomminsioning, if they already havent, the Fresh Kills landfill since it is getting so high it was in the flight path of JFK airport and therefore subject to height restrictions.

Exodus
May 3, 2007, 7:24 PM
This is how NYC gets its trash taken out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd3iI6OMwH8

This is how Detroit gets its trash taken out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2wU3pmlVpQ

This is how San Francisco gets its trash taken out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-0BVT4cqGY

MarkDaMan
May 3, 2007, 8:47 PM
next year Portland will roll out the dump everything in a rolly-bin recycle cans and follow up with laws instructing the garbage haulers not to pick up trash cans containing too many recyleable items. Within the next two years Portland hopes to switch trash pickups to bi-weekly service.

Recycling plan gets Portland to step up
Beaverton and other cities find roll carts boost
Tuesday, May 01, 2007
MICHAEL MILSTEIN
The Oregonian

About this time next year, a big rolling cart -- like a trash can on wheels -- probably will replace Portland's familiar yellow recycling bins.

The roll carts will hold more, accept more recyclables including yogurt containers, and, better yet -- free you from separating paper, plastic and metal. You throw them all in together (though glass will go in a separate bin).

Many other Oregon and West Coast cities have already switched to the cart system and found that people who use it recycle more -- 17 percent more by weight in Beaverton, for example.

The new carts should boost recycling enough that in a few years, the typical home will get trash picked up every other week instead of every week, city officials say.

But first, the public gets its say, and the City Council must approve the plan -- to be unveiled today. A decision is expected later this summer.

Another new element of the plan: Trucks that now collect grass clippings and other yard debris every other week will come every week. And they'll collect carts that combine yard debris and food waste for composting.

Eventually the hammer will fall: People who still insist on throwing out what they could recycle will first get friendly warnings and then may start finding their trash left at the curb.

City officials estimate residents will pay about $2.60 extra a month starting next year to cover the cost of the new roll carts. But that could be offset by switching to a smaller garbage can or shifting to a less-frequent garbage pickup, they said.

Businesses may also face new ultimatums on recycling: The new plan proposes a requirement that businesses recycle at least 75 percent of their waste, including all paper. Contractors would have to recycle 75 percent of waste from construction and renovation projects.

About three-quarters of the city's waste comes from commercial sources, officials say.

Recycling is more crucial because Portlanders are throwing away more and more trash -- 44 percent more a person since 1996, much of it plastic bottles, yard debris, scrap metal and construction waste. Portland now produces about 14 pounds of trash per person each day.

While more of that river of trash is getting recycled, the river itself is growing so large that more is also getting thrown away.

Keeping food waste out of the landfill has emerged as a major priority for the city because its decay releases methane, a potent greenhouse gas, and haulers burn up extra gasoline to haul it to the eastern Oregon site that takes most of Portland's trash.

Roughly nine of every 10 pounds of trash in Portland can be recycled, the city says, but only six of every 10 actually get recycled. San Francisco has one-upped Portland, now recycling almost seven of every 10 pounds. The Portland City Council wants Portlanders to catch up by recycling 75 percent of all waste by 2015.

"It's certainly doable if you take out a lot of the material that gets thrown away and recycle it instead," said City Commissioner Dan Saltzman, who oversees the city's Office of Sustainable Development, which designed the new recycling plan.

The market for recyclable materials has improved so local recycling plants will take more types of plastic than they used to. Recycling plants are also set up to separate paper, plastic and metal from each other -- and many garbage haulers now throw all those into the same compartment even after homeowners separate them.

That's made it easier for cities to switch to what they call "commingled" recycling -- where different types of containers (except glass) all go together into a big roll cart.

Haulers like it better because truck drivers don't have to bend over and grab the separate smaller bins, said Dean Kampfer of Waste Management. Recycling plants like it better because the covered roll carts keep recyclables drier, making them easier to separate. Homeowners also like it better because they don't have to bother separating different types of recyclables, and the roll carts provide more room and have wheels -- making them easy to move.

After Beaverton switched to roll carts, a city survey found that 86 percent of homeowners said the carts made recycling easier. Portland plans to test the 65-gallon roll carts on a few garbage routes this summer, to gauge residents' reactions and figure out how best to phase in the system citywide.

Portland has been slow to adopt the roll cart approach for fear of upsetting the current system that has made the city's recycling rate among the best in the nation. But now, city leaders say, the time has come for a change.

"Once people are already doing everything they can do, then you have to take the next step, and that's what this is," said Amy Stork of the Office of Sustainable Development.

Recycling more saves energy and money, reduces pollution and even creates jobs -- more people work at recycling plants than landfills, they say. It takes 95 percent less energy, for example, to recycle aluminum than to make it from raw ore.

Michael Milstein: 503-294-7689; michaelmilstein@ news.oregonian.com
http://www.oregonlive.com/oregonian/stories/index.ssf?/base/news/1177991706263530.xml&coll=7

ginsan2
May 3, 2007, 9:24 PM
This is how NYC gets its trash taken out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd3iI6OMwH8

This is how Detroit gets its trash taken out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2wU3pmlVpQ

This is how San Francisco gets its trash taken out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-0BVT4cqGY

Don't be ridiculous, there's no one in Detroit. :koko:

SpongeG
May 4, 2007, 10:15 AM
omg death wish - when i was a kid i saw part of one of those movies and the image has stayed with me forever - the scene where the girl is being raped and she jumps out the window only to impale herself on a fence

jeicow
May 6, 2007, 2:10 AM
Michigan governer Granholm has been trying to do something about this for years but opponents say this would interfere with international "commerce". Will Michigan residents have to pay more for their own trash disposal once the local landfills are full of Toronto trash?

Dude, you need to keep up on your local issues. The last day a truck will cross a border has already been announced, and if I remember correctly, about 10 months ago. I always find it funny how the State of Michigan spent loads of money trying to get the trash to come (including a series of newspaper ads in Toronto papers and conferences at major downtown Toronto locations) yet, once the trash started to come everyone started to freak out. You'd expect people to stay more up to date on what their government was doing.

Anyways, for trash collection, here in Mississaug (well, Peel region as a whole) we have once a week curbside pick-up for garbage, and once a week recycling pick-up (the same day). We have a three bag limit, and if you want to throw out more you have to buy tickets that you attach to your bag that can be bought from City Hall, community centres and libraries. I think they cost about $10 each (I've never had to buy them so I'm not sure). I believe the limit is going down to 2 bags starting in the fall. We have an extensive recycling program. Before it was one bin for everything, then it was a Grey Bin for paper, and a blue bin for everything else, and now it has been put back all into one bin. We also had an organic waste collection program introduced a month ago. We're also the only (well, last time I check) region in North America that had a recycling facility for styrofoam. Whenever the environmentalists come up from the States to speak and then bash the problems with sytrofoam we all boo them for not knowing what they're talking about. :whip:

Coyett
May 6, 2007, 3:11 AM
From: Salon

Für Elise, Taiwan, and kitchen grease

To this day, when you hear the tune of Für Elise wafting up from the Taipei city streets, you know it is time to gather your garbage and charge down the stairs in a frantic hurry not to miss the sanitation man. Yes, it is true, garbage trucks in Taiwan frequently blare out a mangled version of one of Beethoven's most well-known tunes, popularized to generations of American children as the ice cream truck song.

That sound, and the corresponding aroma, came back to me in a Proustian flash a few moments ago when I read the news that Taiwan's Environmental Protection Administration has announced that starting this summer, every Taiwanese household will be required to recycle its waste cooking oil for the purposes of biodiesel production. (Thanks to the Oil Drum for the link.)

Starting in July, when residents of Taiwan hear the mangled melody of Beethoven's "Bagatelle in A minor," they will grab their used cooking oil and deposit it in special bins attached to the garbage trucks. And they will do so with the satisfaction of knowing that they are helping to wean their nation from precarious dependence on foreign petroleum.

Even better -- according to the China Post, "since 2005, the EPA has subsidized the trial use of biodiesel on 780 garbage trucks in thirteen counties and cities across Taiwan" and plans are in place to replace all diesel fuel for sale to consumers with biodiesel by July 2008. That waste cooking oil isn't just going into a special waste bin on the garbage truck -- it's going to end up fueling the garbage truck itself.

Think about that, the next time you hear Für Elise.

UPDATE:

Taipei resident Philip Diller adds some more detail to the Taiwanese garbage situation:


There are two rounds of trucks now. First the garbage trucks. You can only throw stuff into the trucks with regulation garbage bags -- these are "expensive" bags that you can buy most anywhere. Furthermore, if you get caught throwing recyclables into the trash truck this will get you into a heap of trouble and considerable fines. The second truck is the recycling truck -- picking up paper, plastic, glass -- and even kitchen waste (i.e. slop) -- these are often preceded by a caravan of unofficial waste haulers towing unreasonably stacked three wheelers collecting the idle "valuable" refrigerator, television or stack of newspapers -- just in advance of the city trucks.

Recycling is so efficient that the forest of incinerators planned to go on line a decade ago stand starved. One of the biggest visual impacts was when Taipei outlawed vendors giving consumers plastic bags and also disposable trays and eating utensils. If you really want a bag at check-out, you have to buy it, usually for 1 to 3 NT. That virtually made the omnipresent Wang Yong-qing signature striped pink plastic bag disappear.

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HurricaneHugo
May 6, 2007, 6:13 AM
Here in San Diego, trash is collected once a week and the recycle bin every two weeks. I wish it was every week otherwise we would recycle a lot more as the bin gets full within a week and the rest just goes to the trash can.