Year End Homicide Totals [Archive] - SkyscraperPage Forum

MayorOfChicago

Jan 2, 2007, 3:36 PM

So...we had a thread for Jan. through June that got shutdown for too many party fouls.

What's your totals?

Chicago was 466, up from 447 last year ( I believe ).

That's around 16 homicides per 100,000.

Suburban Cook County had 100 homicides for the latest year of statistics with around 2,500,000 people for roughly 4 homicides per 100,000.

In 2006 DuPage County had 9 homicides for around 925,000 people. That's a little less than 1 per 100,000. I couldn't help but notice that DuPage County in 2001 had 1 homicide.

Crazy a suburban area a dozen miles west of Chicago can have .01 homicides per 100,000 while at the same time Chicago had around 23.

LordMandeep

Jan 2, 2007, 5:02 PM

69 or 70 in Toronto in 2006. The whole gun violence has really started up againg during this holiday season.

Jularc

Jan 2, 2007, 5:49 PM

579 in NYC in 2006. Up from 539 homicides in 2005. The 2005 figure was the city's lowest death toll in more than 40 years. I guess homicides are going up again. :rolleyes:

SHOFEAR

Jan 2, 2007, 5:58 PM

36 in Edmonton.

DeadManWalking

Jan 2, 2007, 6:01 PM

115 in Kansas City, Missouri down from 124 in 2005.

Chicago3rd

Jan 2, 2007, 6:12 PM

Communities that support gangs. It is a tradgic situation. The government needs to go into the communities with the national guards and arrest all the gang members and send them to camps, making sure that they have fair and quick trials.

Frisco_Zig

Jan 2, 2007, 6:12 PM

San Francisco declined from 96 in 2005 to 85 in 2006

Near by Oakland and Richmond have much higher homicide rates

giovanni sasso

Jan 2, 2007, 6:16 PM

pretty sure we finished 2006 off at 404. sadly, i knew #402.

that figure comes with this handy dandy little graphic:

http://phillyskyline.com/misc/0506murder.jpg

PhilippeMtl

Jan 2, 2007, 6:34 PM

Montreal :
2006 - 42
2005 - 35
2004 - 43

(2.27 / 100 000)

Mike/617

Jan 2, 2007, 6:37 PM

After a fatal shooting yesterday, Brito's slaying was one of 74 homicides in Boston in 2006 -- a total just shy of the 75 last year that marked a 10-year high.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2007/01/01/troubling_trends_in_bostons_06_homicides/

The Chemist

Jan 2, 2007, 6:41 PM

I believe Calgary finished with 25 murders in 2006 (2.5/100,000). About the same as last year. Hopefully this year will be lower, but with the increase in gang related crime in this city in recent years, I have my doubts.

MayorOfChicago

Jan 2, 2007, 6:51 PM

brickell

Jan 2, 2007, 7:02 PM

From Miaminewtimes.com, that's 165 for those that don't read. This is only Metro Dade and City of Miami. Can't find them for the other municipalities.

Metro Murders on the Rise
Filed under: News

Happy New Year: Homicides are on the rise in Miami-Dade County!

According to Metro Dade and city police statistics through Dec. 28, 165 people were killed in 2006. Compare that with 2005 - when 120 people were killed - and you have a 37 percent increase in homicides. (These numbers only include those two police jurisdictions; other county municipalities aren’t included).

This mirrors a national trend - homicides are at their highest levels in a decade in many U.S. cities. New York’s homicides, for example, are up 10 percent. Chicago’s are up 3.3 percent. Oakland, California has increased by a whopping 57 percent.

Miami Police spokesman Delrish Moss has an explanation for this year’s increase: 2005 was a particularly safe year, the lowest on record for homicides.

“When we finished with 56 last year, our jaws dropped,” he said. “Now, in 2006, we’re back to average. Seventy-seven homicides is about average.”

Moss said that turf wars between gangs in the northern part of the city, family fights and the proliferation of assault rifles are the main cause of the bloodshed in 2006.

Before you think that Miami is a lawless pit of scum a la Rep. Tom Tancredo (who said that Miami is the most violent city in the nation), consider this: in 1981, Miami had 681 murders, or about two per day.

dave8721

Jan 2, 2007, 7:08 PM

From Miaminewtimes.com, that's 165 for those that don't read.

It should be pointed out that those numbers are for Miami-Dade County (~2.4 million people) rather than the City of Miami (~370,000 people). I'm guessing about 90% of the murders took place in just a couple of zip codes as well...

tech12

Jan 2, 2007, 7:11 PM

San Francisco declined from 96 in 2005 to 85 in 2006

Near by Oakland and Richmond have much higher homicide rates

There has been a 19.5 percent inrease in violent crime in SF though, mostly due to robberies, according to the news. The first half of 06 was really violent for SF, especially august, which saw 21 murders. Then the muder rate dropped drastically until about a week ago, when a police officer and robbery suspect were killed in a shootout . On the same day an irish tourist was shot in the stomach during a mugging. Then on friday, 3 people were shot to death and another critically injured in a shooting in Hunter's Point. Later another man was shot multiple times in the tenderloin. The holiday season is violent, i guess.

MNMike

Jan 2, 2007, 7:12 PM

Minneapolis ended up with 59 murders this year, and St. Paul with 16, The Minneapolis number was 10 higher than last year, and the St. Paul number about 10 lower. So thats 75 murders among about 670,000 people...not that great, could be worse I guess:(

MayorOfChicago

Jan 2, 2007, 8:39 PM

This mirrors a national trend - homicides are at their highest levels in a decade in many U.S. cities. New York’s homicides, for example, are up 10 percent. Chicago’s are up 3.3 percent. Oakland, California has increased by a whopping 57 percent.

Is this really true? I know Chicago for one has a MUCH lower homicide rate than it did back in the mid 1990's. I know numbers for many cities are up this year, but I still thought they were below the horrid numbers from the early 1990's (I know a decade ago was 1996, but I still thought they were pretty high - but at least heading down during this period). Maybe they dropped faster by the mid 90's in other cities than Chicago.

Chicago3rd

Jan 2, 2007, 9:56 PM

Yeah, I was hoping Chicago could keep it's tally low. We had a 25% drop in homicides all the sudden about 3 years ago - so at least that wasn't just a blip as we've stayed basically the same for 3 years now.

Of course we started 2007 with a homicide already before dawn on New Years Day :uhh:

This comes on top of masked gunman breaking down a door on the soutside during a party on Saturday night shooting 6 people. None of them have died...yet.

It was a hate crime. Supposidly it was a gay party. Of course that will not be reported...because the shooters were just doing society a service.

AP REPORT-NOTE gay is washed out. Followed by blog giving us the real news. A Pastor refered me to it:

Gunmen crash party early Sunday in Chicago

By SOPHIA TAREEN
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Published Monday, January 01, 2007
http://www.sj-r.com/sections/news/stories/104325.asp

CHICAGO - Two masked gunmen kicked in the door of a South Side home early Sunday and opened fire on a crowd of partygoers, wounding six people, authorities said.

About 100 people - mostly men - were at the party in a two-story house near the city’s Avalon Park neighborhood. A witness said the house was the site of frequent parties.

Police said they don’t know if the shooters were targeting specific victims or if they fired randomly, but the department’s civil rights unit, which investigates hate crimes, was notified late Sunday morning and may help with the investigation.

Bond said that the shooting is not being investigated as a hate crime, which the department classifies as discriminatory verbal exchanges or written messages.

“In this case, we have none of those elements involved,” Bond said. But based on witness testimony, she said, the special unit was notified. She declined to elaborate.

The gunmen began shooting around 5:30 a.m. in an apartment on the home’s first floor on South Woodlawn Avenue.

The six victims - all men - were taken to area hospitals and were listed in stable condition.

No suspects have been arrested, Bond said.

The story with gay left in it.
http://www.keithboykin.com/arch/2007/01/02/six_men_shot_at#more

MayorOfChicago

Jan 2, 2007, 10:35 PM

Lovely, the new year is how many hours old and Chicago has already racked up 4 homicides. One person shot to death on the south side, one person stabbed to death on the south side, one person shot to death on the west side and one person stabbed to death on the west side.

And don't forget the suburbs. A man was shot in the stomach on New Years Day when he went downstairs to investigate a noise. He escaped, but they later found his girlfriend dead of gunshot wounds in their bedroom and her 1 year old baby was shot as well, but survived. The boyfriend is in critical condition. The hell's wrong with the world...

Ex-Ithacan

Jan 2, 2007, 10:51 PM

Washington Dc had 164 in 2006, down from 197 in 2005.

Suburban Prince Georges county (where I use to live) had 134 in 2006, down from 167 in 2005.

Jularc

Jan 2, 2007, 10:59 PM

:no: NEW YEAR MAYHEM

By JAMIE SCHRAM, JOHN DOYLE and DAN MANGAN
January 2, 2007

The Big Apple rang in the New Year violently - at least 14 men were shot yesterday, one fatally, two were stabbed and one was beaten with a golf putter.

Brooklyn resident Jonathan Ridley, 26, became New York City's first murder victim of 2007 after he was shot in the back by an unknown gunman while walking at midday with his pregnant girlfriend on a Brownsville street, cops said.

Two other men were shot in separate incidents just past midnight in the same neighborhood. One was shot in the finger at Herzl Street and Pitkin Avenue, and the other, an 18-year-old, was critically wounded a minute later after being shot once in the leg in front of 365 Thatford Ave.

Ridley's killing came on the same Sutter Avenue block as a major brawl that occurred 10 hours earlier, at about 2:30 a.m. - and some residents believe his murder stemmed from that earlier incident.

Cops said Ridley was walking with his 18-year-old girlfriend at about 12:28 p.m. past 49 Sutter Ave. when he encountered at least one person, with whom he exchanged words, police said. The other person then fired at least five shots at Ridley.

"He was lying on the ground. She was just crying and screaming, 'Call an ambulance!' " said Sophia, 33, an area resident. "She was saying, 'No, no, no!' "

Also in Brooklyn, a man was shot in the torso at 3:30 a.m. in front of 181 Hoyt St.

In The Bronx, an unidentified man shot three men in the second-floor hallway of 280 E. 161st St. at 3:20 a.m., before going downstairs and shooting another man in the hand.

Elsewhere in The Bronx:

* A 25-year-old man was shot in the chest and critically wounded in front of 822 E. 215th St. at 12:35 a.m.

* A 28-year-old man was shot in the leg at 4:03 a.m. outside of 1600 Sedgwick Ave.

In Manhattan, three men were shot - and one critically wounded - just before 1 a.m. by a gunman on LaSalle Street, in front of 3150 Broadway.

Elsewhere in Manhattan:

* Two roommates were arrested at 20 W. 115th St. at 3:28 a.m. after an argument over a woman escalated, with one man hitting the other with a golf putter, and the other man retaliating by stabbing the first man, cops said.

* A 21-year-old man was shot once in the stomach at East 110th Street and Madison Avenue at 1:45 a.m.

* Another man was stabbed at 10th Avenue and West 201st Street at 4:37 a.m.

* In Times Square, cops arrested Mohammed Nur, 24, of Harlem at 4:17 a.m. after spotting him punching another man and robbing him of a backpack, police said.

Copyright 2007 NYP Holdings, Inc.

Stratosphere 2020

Jan 2, 2007, 11:06 PM

It seems that much of the violent crime in Manhattan is in the Harlem area.

J. Will

Jan 2, 2007, 11:14 PM

Most of those rates are terrible. It really makes you sad.

jcchii

Jan 2, 2007, 11:19 PM

NY, Chi and LA can't get much lower than they are now

Derek

Jan 2, 2007, 11:20 PM

i dont know SD's exact numbers...but i guess it is up 31% and has 5 per 100,000 and the population is a little more than 1,300,000 so it should be somewhere around 70 if i did my math correctly...

http://phillyskyline.com/misc/0506murder.jpg

J. Will

Jan 2, 2007, 11:23 PM

NY, Chi and LA can't get much lower than they are now

Let's hope you're wrong.

BnaBreaker

Jan 2, 2007, 11:32 PM

Sad, sad news indeed. If only there was a way to prohibit angry assholes from drinking too much, and a way to end the desperate conditions that allow someone to form a negative enough mindset in which the life of another human being is worthless.

SlidellWx

Jan 3, 2007, 5:56 AM

161 in New Orleans

terryaki

Jan 3, 2007, 6:07 AM

8 for 2006 in Salt Lake City, down from 9 in 2005.
47 for the state of Utah in 2006, down 20% from 59 in 2005.

david23

Jan 3, 2007, 6:38 AM

Washington Dc had 164 in 2006, down from 197 in 2005.

Suburban Prince Georges county (where I use to live) had 134 in 2006, down from 167 in 2005.

Why are there so many homicides in PGC? I thought it was a suburban county.

seapug

Jan 3, 2007, 6:59 AM

several cities have suburbs that are just as bad or worse then the city itself. one of my best friends cousins was murdered in kent last year over race. seattle had 29 murders for 2006 4 higher then 2005 tacoma had 22 murders 6 higher then 2005. kent has done pretty good with crime in 2003 they had 14 murders last year they had 1 kent has about 80,000 people. we're off to a bad start by day break 3 people had been shot in seattle and 3 were shot in skyway a little unincorporated area just outside seattle

MtnClimber

Jan 3, 2007, 7:20 AM

29 murders in Seattle. not to horrible I guess.

urbanflyer

Jan 3, 2007, 8:42 AM

Ex-Ithacan

Jan 3, 2007, 11:38 AM

Why are there so many homicides in PGC? I thought it was a suburban county.

PG county (though not the largest suburban DC county) has around 800,000 people. It borders DC on the SE and NE quadrants of the city. The border neighborhoods tend to be fairly rough, as are the inner ring areas of PG (inside the beltway). As folks moved from DC to PG, much of the same crime issues followed them. There are some great areas in the county, and safety isn't a stomach churning concern in most of the county, but there are places to avoid.

Kroy Wen

Jan 3, 2007, 12:15 PM

all sad numbers though SLC is pretty respectable. well, as you can probably guess, the number is pretty low around these parts. 9 homicides for all of Nagoya and environs this year. (~10 million pop.)

According to the latest stats, Japan ranks higher in murders per capita only to Morocco, Myanmar, Pakistan and Singapore. So basically among five nations who either can't keep track, shred a lot, or simply have no passion- Japan is best at one of them. Even the Swiss manage to murder at six times what Japan reports. Somehow this doesn't make any statistical sense.

:shrug:

Qaabus

Jan 3, 2007, 12:41 PM

Article (http://www.elsevier.nl/nieuws/nederland/artikel/asp/artnr/132907/index.html)
2006 showed a spectacular low number of murders in murders in the Netherlands. The preliminary number is 150, but it be lower still, because some cases that are counted as murders at the moment could turn out to be traffic accidents. The record number of murders was in 1997, when there were 283.
1997: 283
2005: 201
2006: 150
So that gives a number of 0,92 per 100.000

In the biggest municipalities the number almost halved. The number of mafia style liquidations and murders commited by illegal aliens declined the most.
Amsterdam 2005:32 2006:16 on a population of 744.736
Rotterdam: 2005:26 2006:15 on a population of 583.853
Den Haag: 2005:15 2006:8 on a population of 475.959

dfane

Jan 3, 2007, 1:37 PM

It seems that much of the violent crime in Manhattan is in the Harlem area.

uh you think?
lol

dfane

Jan 3, 2007, 1:39 PM

PG county (though not the largest suburban DC county) has around 800,000 people. It borders DC on the SE and NE quadrants of the city. The border neighborhoods tend to be fairly rough, as are the inner ring areas of PG (inside the beltway). As folks moved from DC to PG, much of the same crime issues followed them. There are some great areas in the county, and safety isn't a stomach churning concern in most of the county, but there are places to avoid.

In other words it is a predominantly black county with city problems. DC should just annex it. I think there may be more murders in PG county then there is in alot of states in America.

dfane

Jan 3, 2007, 1:47 PM

Philadelphia ended with 406 for 2006 and 2007 tally has already started.
Just think if you combine Philly, NYC, and DC with surrounding suburbs we would make Iraq look safe and we are at war there.

urbanflyer

Jan 3, 2007, 1:55 PM

Somehow this doesn't make any statistical sense.

Sure it makes sense. Murder doesn't register in contemporary Japanese society with anyone other than those who are completely nuts.

Look at the suicide rates and you'll find another interesting commentary about this society.

nito

Jan 3, 2007, 1:56 PM

According to the latest stats, Japan ranks higher in murders per capita only to Morocco, Myanmar, Pakistan and Singapore. So basically among five nations who either can't keep track, shred a lot, or simply have no passion- Japan is best at one of them. Even the Swiss manage to murder at six times what Japan reports. Somehow this doesn't make any statistical sense.

:shrug:I somehow doubt that, Japan tends to have exceptionally low murder rates....perhaps you're confusing murder rates with suicide rates which is a completely different situation what with the honour system.

London for the rolling 12 months to November (December figures haven't been released yet) saw 169 murders, an 8% decrease from the previous year despite the population increasing towards 8mn. What trully amazes me though is how, London a city of close to 8mn people has only 5 more murders than Washington D.C., a city of 0.6mn. What is even more remarkable is that the poorest borough in London (Tower Hamlets), had 0 murders.

mafia style liquidations:D

Awkab

Jan 3, 2007, 2:53 PM

In other words it is a predominantly black county with city problems. DC should just annex it. I think there may be more murders in PG county then there is in alot of states in America.

Huh? Why should DC annex another state's county simply because it has black people living in it and has issues with crime? Should Philly annex Camden? Should NYC annex Newark? I'm really not quite sure I follow your logic...

Philadelphia ended with 406 for 2006 and 2007 tally has already started. Just think if you combine Philly, NYC, and DC with surrounding suburbs we would make Iraq look safe and we are at war there.

While I certainly do not want to downplay America's continuing crime problems, the violence is nowhere near the level of violence in Iraq. Let's assume that, roughly speaking (and probably a far overestimate) there are 1000 murders each in the metropolitan areas (including suburbs) of Philly, NYC and DC. That would make 3000 murders for 2006.

According to the Iraqi Health Ministry, 1536 people died in Baghdad in August alone, the same number as in July, with a large number of the casualties caused by suicide bombs and morter attacks (source (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14801520/)). These numbers are also probably far lower than actual totals, since many of those that are killed are never taken to the morgue and are buried quickly and privately and thus do not factor into official tallies. Independent, non-partisan estimates of the total number of Iraqi civilians killed in the past three years vary widely (from about 60,000 to 650,000), but even the low estimate makes the murder totals in the U.S. look low, especially when comparing the population of each country.

Sorry, I won't post anymore on the subject, because I don't want to hijack the thread into an Iraqi war thread, but I really needed to call out such a dubious assertion.

MayorOfChicago

Jan 3, 2007, 3:30 PM

Houston surged up to 379 homicides. Yikes. The mayor says a lot of that is from New Orleans folks (as they've been telling us for awhile now).

MayorOfChicago

Jan 3, 2007, 3:39 PM

I found Des Moines, Iowa had 6 murders within the metro of 513,940.

Major AWACS

Jan 3, 2007, 5:52 PM

Houston surged up to 379 homicides. Yikes. The mayor says a lot of that is from New Orleans folks (as they've been telling us for awhile now).

well over 80 of those arrested were from New Orleans and scores of those they killed were NOLA folks.

Interesting bit on both Fox and CNN today about NOLA and the skewed numbers this year. THe Chief of Police said hey we had less murders but failed to note the population loss making the rate 4 times the national average. Today they put the city proper at 200-250K with a rate of ~179 murders sad. But NOLA had high crime before Katrina so not surprises. The Police chief also noted the bad drug problem hitting NOLA these days.

HEre in the Netherlands Heerlen is the crime capital. Lots of drug related theft.

Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Capt-AWACS, De limburgers heten u welkom

TexasStar

Jan 3, 2007, 7:43 PM

From today's Dallas Morning News...

Preliminary statistics show that Dallas logged 187 murders last year, down about 5.6 percent from the 198 reported in 2005. In that year, murders were down 19 percent from 2004.

According to Police Chief Kunkle, "We're very pleased," he said. "The growing trend nationally is an increase in homicides. Most of the cities you see with reductions this year didn't have reductions last year. We're unique."

Chief Kunkle said the crime rate continues to improve because the department has made efforts to more accurately target hot spots of drug, gun and gang crimes. He also credited a good local economy and an improving working relationship between police and the community.

According to the department's crime analysis team:

• The last time Dallas had fewer murders was 1967, when there were 133. The following year, that number jumped to 192.

• The murder rate in 2006 (15 per 100,000 people in the city) was the lowest since 1966.

LordMandeep

Jan 3, 2007, 8:02 PM

I heard Dallas police are well known for just stoping anyone who they think is in a gang. They stoped Borat because they thought the Union Jack was a gang symbol.

However it appears it works.

illmatic774

Jan 3, 2007, 8:22 PM

Dont have Detroit's yet, and frankly, i don't wanna see it.

LosAngelesSportsFan

Jan 3, 2007, 11:24 PM

LA ended the year at 478, down 2% and down for the 5th straight year.

roner

Jan 4, 2007, 12:32 AM

Portland had 13 (population 540,000-area of 130 square miles), I think that's up from 11 last year.

LMich

Jan 4, 2007, 1:22 AM

Dont have Detroit's yet, and frankly, i don't wanna see it.

I'm pretty sure it's over 400 for the first time in quite a few years (pop. 870,000-890,000, area: 138 square miles). It's really sad because murders had been reduced significantly in this decade. I'm waiting for the exact number from the guy that created firejerryo.com, a disgruntled DPD officer/detective. I've always said you could probably shave off about a good quarter of these simply by legalizing marijauna.

Lansing (pop. 119,100, area: 35 sqare mile) Murder Count (2006): 6 murders for a rate of 5 murders per 100,000 people

I'd say add another 4-5 for the rest of the metro (pop. 450,000).

It would really help if people posted populations and square miles as the numbers mean nothing without size.

dfane

Jan 4, 2007, 1:34 AM

Huh? Why should DC annex another state's county simply because it has black people living in it and has issues with crime? Should Philly annex Camden? Should NYC annex Newark? I'm really not quite sure I follow your logic...

While I certainly do not want to downplay America's continuing crime problems, the violence is nowhere near the level of violence in Iraq. Let's assume that, roughly speaking (and probably a far overestimate) there are 1000 murders each in the metropolitan areas (including suburbs) of Philly, NYC and DC. That would make 3000 murders for 2006.

According to the Iraqi Health Ministry, 1536 people died in Baghdad in August alone, the same number as in July, with a large number of the casualties caused by suicide bombs and morter attacks (source (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14801520/)). These numbers are also probably far lower than actual totals, since many of those that are killed are never taken to the morgue and are buried quickly and privately and thus do not factor into official tallies. Independent, non-partisan estimates of the total number of Iraqi civilians killed in the past three years vary widely (from about 60,000 to 650,000), but even the low estimate makes the murder totals in the U.S. look low, especially when comparing the population of each country.

Sorry, I won't post anymore on the subject, because I don't want to hijack the thread into an Iraqi war thread, but I really needed to call out such a dubious assertion.

Well I not comment on this again either and I heaya, but if you look at the numbers just Philly , surrounding areas and nyc have more then 1000 murders, so I am just saying the numbers are close and they shouldnt be if you think about it. Its just a sad state when living in some of these neighborhoods may be more dangerous then Baghdad. And e probably will never know the true number of deaths over there, since you hear so many different things over there. Well say this and I mean no slight to our troops they may be safer over there then would be in certain neighborhoods in the US.

mhays

Jan 4, 2007, 1:39 AM

There are what, 150,000 US troops in Iraq, and something like 1,000 are dying per year? That's many times as bad as the worst citywide murder rate in the US.

LMich

Jan 4, 2007, 2:23 AM

Darkoshvilli

Jan 4, 2007, 3:12 AM

Im assuming this thread isnt only about American cities?

There were 40 something murders in the montreal city proper. 1.9 M. Thats very safe. :notacrook:

Wigs

Jan 4, 2007, 3:35 AM

Buffalo, NY : 73 :(

Joey D

Jan 4, 2007, 4:09 AM

29 murders in Seattle. not to horrible I guess.

Wow.

Wilmington churned out 23, at 32 murders per 100,000.

Better than Camden, Chester, and Newark I'm sure.

R@ptor

Jan 4, 2007, 4:09 AM

I don't know the numbers for Heidelberg, but I guess it's either 0 or 1 (Pop. 142.500).

All of Germany (Pop. 82.5 million) had 794 homicides that's 0.96/100.000

Derek

Jan 4, 2007, 4:37 AM

Germany's numbers impress me!

LordMandeep

Jan 4, 2007, 5:08 AM

Buffalo, NY : 73

HOLY CRAP!!!
Thats shocking a city of only around 400k has 3 more murders then a city of 2.6 million only an hour away (Toronto). Clearly shows something is wrong across the border. Buffalo isn't big at all and for a place like that to have so many murder quite shocks me.

LMich

Jan 4, 2007, 5:58 AM

Really, is this your first time noticing the differences?

1ajs

Jan 4, 2007, 6:14 AM

winnipeg onlz had somthing like 24 murders 34 province wide including winnipeg

Dr Nevergold

Jan 4, 2007, 6:44 AM

The hell's wrong with the world...

A lot, unfortunately.

Dr Nevergold

Jan 4, 2007, 6:46 AM

HOLY CRAP!!!
Thats shocking a city of only around 400k has 3 more murders then a city of 2.6 million only an hour away (Toronto). Clearly shows something is wrong across the border. Buffalo isn't big at all and for a place like that to have so many murder quite shocks me.

Buffalo is relatively safe. If you want a higher number, try this.

http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=e46a3624-2aba-45ac-9e04-3557fd0e8b91&rss=59

"Memphis Hits 160 Murders in 2006"

For a population of 680,000 that is not too small of a murder rate.

23.5 murders per 100,000 people in Memphis. Its amazing I once lived in this city and actually thought it was an interesting place to live. I would hear gunshots on a regular basis in my south midtown apartment.

As of December 28, Nashville had 82 murders for a city of 570,000.

http://www.wkrn.com/nashville/news/music-citys-murder-rate-drops/68083.htm

Xing

Jan 4, 2007, 6:55 AM

East St. Louis had twice as many as Portland, with 26, at a population of 30,000.

LordMandeep

Jan 4, 2007, 6:03 PM

Buffalo is relatively safe

how would you consider it anything close to the word safe???

Chicago3rd

Jan 4, 2007, 6:13 PM

I get tired of people making those ridiculous hyperboles and exaggerations trying to compare cities to ongoing warzones. The problem is bad enough to not have to use hyperbole, and it does nothing to move the discussion forward.

It is a war. Perhaps not under the definition of the U.S. Constitution but it is war, but hell we haven't had a "real war" since WWII. The war in the U.S. is economically and socially focsed......All wars are economical. Our government calls it wars...War on Drugs & War on Gangs......

So it isn't really an exaggeration (by the way you are being redunant in your use of hyperboles and exaggerations in your attempt to be dramatic).

FREKI

Jan 4, 2007, 6:19 PM

No numbers yet.. but I doubt it hits the 53 murders we had last year in the entire country ( 5.5mil )

MayorOfChicago

Jan 4, 2007, 6:27 PM

how would you consider it anything close to the word safe???

Well if you think that 292,575 out of the 292,648 people in the city WEREN'T murdered last year, it could be called "relatively safe". I mean 99.76& of the people in the city didn't die at the hands of someone else.

Obviously I'm not saying that the murder rate isn't atrocious, but a lot of people (I notice more Canadians than anyone) constantly talk over and over about homicides in US cities. I know it's bad, but when people start saying it's like a warzone, or living in Baghdad, you can't help but roll your eyes after awhile.

I've lived in Chicago for years now, and I've never heard of a murder anywhere near where I live. There was one murder this year about 2 miles away from me, when one transvestite stabbed another one at a bus stop at 7am on a Monday morning after a night of partying. Not really a situation that I could compare to enough to "scare me". Even with 468 or whatever murders in Chicago this year, around 99.98% of the population was not being blown away.

People talk like walking through an American city is like wading through a street full of body parts and blood, having old women blowing up as they walk by you, or hearing about people you know getting randomly gunned down as they go to work on a monthly basis.

Yes it happens too much, but for as much as it happens, America is definitely a RELATIVELY safe country. I'm not even mentioning how a majority of the homicides occur within quite select physical areas of our massive country.

VivaLFuego

Jan 4, 2007, 7:19 PM

Well if you think that 292,575 out of the 292,648 people in the city WEREN'T murdered last year, it could be called "relatively safe". I mean 99.76& of the people in the city didn't die at the hands of someone else.

Obviously I'm not saying that the murder rate isn't atrocious, but a lot of people (I notice more Canadians than anyone) constantly talk over and over about homicides in US cities. I know it's bad, but when people start saying it's like a warzone, or living in Baghdad, you can't help but roll your eyes after awhile.

I've lived in Chicago for years now, and I've never heard of a murder anywhere near where I live. There was one murder this year about 2 miles away from me, when one transvestite stabbed another one at a bus stop at 7am on a Monday morning after a night of partying. Not really a situation that I could compare to enough to "scare me". Even with 468 or whatever murders in Chicago this year, around 99.98% of the population was not being blown away.

People talk like walking through an American city is like wading through a street full of body parts and blood, having old women blowing up as they walk by you, or hearing about people you know getting randomly gunned down as they go to work on a monthly basis.

Yes it happens too much, but for as much as it happens, America is definitely a RELATIVELY safe country. I'm not even mentioning how a majority of the homicides occur within quite select physical areas of our massive country.

America is pretty unsafe if you're in a gang. Otherwise, no problem.

dfane

Jan 4, 2007, 8:06 PM

LordMandeep

Jan 5, 2007, 12:05 AM

I once heard in Mumbai over 10,000 people got murder in underworld gang wars in recent years...

However it may be only a rumour.

Ex-Ithacan

Jan 5, 2007, 12:21 AM

I seem to recall seeing something on TV once which said the Sao Paulo has about 4,000 murders per year.

Hey Trantor, any truth to that?

LordMandeep

Jan 5, 2007, 12:23 AM

Well MayorOfChicago your right, when i was in New York 2 weeks ago I really did not fear for my security in Manhatten anywhere (okay maybe Harlem)

tech12

Jan 5, 2007, 2:18 AM

Some Bay Area cities:

Oakland, CA - 400,000 people

2006 - 148 murders
2005 - 94 murders
2004 - 88 murders

San Francisco, CA - 750,000 people

2006 - 85 murders
2005 - 96 murders
2004 - 88 murders

Richmond, CA - 100,000 people

2006 - 42 murders
2005 - 40 murders
2004 - 34 murders

San Jose, CA - 920,000 people

2006 - 30 murders
2005 - 28 murders
2004 - 24 murders

illmatic774

Jan 5, 2007, 2:48 AM

Did Oakland explode or what? My God.

blade_bltz

Jan 5, 2007, 3:16 AM

Jeez I didn't know Oakland was that bad this past year....

urbanflyer

Jan 5, 2007, 3:35 AM

So, yeah the murder rate is really low in Japan and all but boy are there some bizarre crimes now and again. Reported today:

http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20070105a1.html

Police arrested a 21-year-old cram school student Thursday after he admitted killing and dismembering his 20-year-old sister, a junior college student whose cut-up corpse was found the previous night in his room in their home in Tokyo's Shibuya Ward.

The body of Azumi Muto, the daughter of dentist Mamoru Muto, 62, who has a clinic on the first floor of the family's three-story home, had been cut into more than 10 parts, police said, identifying the suspect as her brother, Yuki.

Her head, arms and legs also bore signs of other assault-related injuries.

The body, packed in four plastic bags, was found by the victim's mother around 9 p.m. Wednesday in the brother's room on the third floor, police said. The body parts had no clothing on them.

"I killed my sister because I got mad at her," the brother was quoted by police sources as saying in interrogation.

The suspect got angry because the victim criticized his poor academic performance and taunted him by saying she had a dream but he didn't, the sources said.

The brother told police that he cut off her head, arms and legs with a saw and a kitchen knife, the sources said.

LordMandeep

Jan 5, 2007, 4:04 AM

true you can have a low crime rate but if you get a few high profile crime, like shooting of innocent teen girl during the holiday season, people really got scared about thier safety.

Derek

Jan 5, 2007, 4:07 AM

edit...sorry...i was thinking about something else!

softee

Jan 5, 2007, 6:17 AM

Zero for North Bay (pop. 56,000). I think the last homicide in the city was around 4 years ago.

Ex-Ithacan

Jan 5, 2007, 10:19 AM

^^^^ Looks like Richmond has the highest Bay area rate. And I thought Oakland would be the worse one. Just shows I ain't too bright.

Slim Pickens

Jan 5, 2007, 10:27 AM

In Anchorage there were 19 homicides in 2006. Out of a population of 275,000. Although I was looking at the list of people killed and one of them was someone that was justifiably shot by the police. I wouldn't really put that in the same category as other homicides even if it does fit the definition of "homicide."

On New Years Day there were 3 homicides. :runaway:

tech12

Jan 5, 2007, 7:34 PM

There were a few killings in 2006 in SF that I guess don't get counted in the homicide total. I've been keeping track of this stuff, sort of a...hobby...kind of a creepy one :jester:
...anyways, they are:

4 People shot to death by police

2 police killed in the line of duty

1 man shot to death on Park Service land, so it was not counted in the city's total (even though it happened in SF city limits)

1 intruder killed in a home-inasion robbery (was a justifiable homicide)

1 baby reported kidnapped and found dead...I think this was considered manslaughter.

And on another note there have been 3 homicides in SF as of Jan. 5th.

urbanflyer

Jan 6, 2007, 12:00 AM

ex-ith, doesn't show anything of the sort. just shows not many people know the bay area has a couple of suburbs with a serious violent crime problem.

Ex-Ithacan

Jan 6, 2007, 12:06 AM

^ Thanks urb, I gotta admit I don't know anything about Richmond. I was kinda surprised by its size as well. Guess I better start checking the World Almanac - California populations, eh? :shrug: :D

LosAngelesSportsFan

Jan 6, 2007, 12:47 AM

according to the LA Times, there have been 7 murders in New Orleans since Monday!

toddguy

Jan 6, 2007, 2:31 AM

Columbus: 102 murders /rate 13.9 per 100,000. (city population 730,000 ..area 225 square miles.)

LordMandeep

Jan 6, 2007, 4:52 AM

Canada's murder capital is Edmonton i think...

36 murders for 700k people
Last year it was 39 murders.

Very High for Canadian standards.

Midwesterner19

Jan 6, 2007, 2:57 PM

all sad numbers though SLC is pretty respectable. well, as you can probably guess, the number is pretty low around these parts. 9 homicides for all of Nagoya and environs this year. (~10 million pop.)

How can anywhere have a rate of .09 per 100,000 with 10 million people?

I dont even know how that is possible? Do you have a link to these rates or numbers in Japanese cities. I just dont know how the rate can be so low.

LordMandeep

Jan 6, 2007, 5:39 PM

no guns....

FREKI

Jan 6, 2007, 9:06 PM

I found the numbers for Denmark and Copenhagen... and I'm happy to report thay are historic low this year... in fact the lowest in 22 years :)

Copenhagen ( pop 1.8 mil ) had 12 murders

The entire country ( pop 5.4mil ) had 29 murders..

http://www.dr.dk/Nyheder/Indland/kriminalitet/2006/12/20/174159.htm
In Danish

That's 0.4 per 100.000 :)

eemy

Jan 6, 2007, 10:02 PM

How can anywhere have a rate of .09 per 100,000 with 10 million people?

I dont even know how that is possible? Do you have a link to these rates or numbers in Japanese cities. I just dont know how the rate can be so low.

2003 must have been an especially bad year for murders in Japan then, what with the Bride (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beatrix_Kiddo)'s rampage in Tokyo.

RG1976

Jan 6, 2007, 11:11 PM

City of Pittsburgh: 59 homicides; 325,000 people (probably lower); 55 square miles; 18/100,000

Allegheny County: 97 homicides (including the 59 in Pittsburgh); 1,200,000 people; 730 square miles; 8/100,000

LordMandeep

Jan 6, 2007, 11:57 PM

In Peel region (outside Toronto) we had around 10-11 murders for the total population of 1.2 million and it has poor people and everything and it has Two cities which are quite large (Mississauga 700k, Brampton 435k).

The other region beside us York region had 8 murders and it has around 900K people.

Major AWACS

Jan 7, 2007, 11:44 AM

Well with 50% of the population NOLA is on pace for ~400 this year...

Jan 6, 6:18 PM (ET)
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20070106/D8MG2T1G0.html
By BECKY BOHRER
NEW ORLEANS (AP) - With at least eight slayings in the city in the first week of the new year, officials are considering a curfew to help stem the violence, the police superintendent said Saturday.

"It's something we're just sort of talking about, to see if that will make a difference," police Superintendent Warren Riley said.

Mayor Ray Nagin, meanwhile, urged residents not to leave the city, still rebuilding after Hurricane Katrina, because of the recent killings. He said the slayings could be a tipping point that "galvanizes our community" to find solutions.

Some residents have called for a march on City Hall on Thursday to demand action to curb the violence.

Nagin and Riley both tried to reassure residents that they were doing all they can to make the city safer. Riley said some covert operations were under way and Nagin said he hoped to have details sometime next week on a "more creative, aggressive" plan developed in talks he has had with local ministers.

Riley said the slayings are a part of a chronic problem that goes back to the city's school system and what he sees as the city's failure, over many years, to adequately educate and provide job opportunities for residents.

He said he's also concerned about making sure "hard-core criminals" are prosecuted and kept in jail.

Problems will continue until there are improvements in the criminal justice system, which has struggled to get court cases moving again since Hurricane Katrina in August 2005, Riley said.

Ciao, and Hook 'em Horns,
Capt-AWACS, Laissez les bons temps rouler

Paul in S.A TX

Jan 8, 2007, 8:44 PM

San Antonio 2006 119
San Antonio 1993 240

Jersey Mentality

Jan 8, 2007, 9:15 PM

New Orleans already has 11 homicides as of the end of last week this year (2007).

MayorOfChicago

Jan 8, 2007, 9:19 PM

Do other countries just not see the gang/drug homicides in their cities?

Through November, 57% of Chicago's homicides were gang/retaliation related. This would be 265 out of our 466 homicides we had total in 2006.

That means 201 homicides were something other than gang members targeting each other. This would give us a rate of around 6.93 homicides per 100,000. Still a lot, but at least more on par with what you'd expect from a large city in a 1st world country.

It's interesting to think of how many of our murders are commited by/against a subset of our population which is generally segregated from the "normal everyday life" of most people. Of course the real losers are the innocent civilians who are stuck living in these areas.