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KevinFromTexas
Dec 16, 2006, 11:15 AM
From the Austin American-Statesman
http://www.statesman.com/business/content/business/stories/technology/12/16/16techpark.html

Technology
Can't find a parking spot? It may get a lot easier
Companies explore new ways to use technology on the road.

By Bob Keefe
WEST COAST BUREAU

Saturday, December 16, 2006

With holiday shopping in high gear, you can bet that finding a decent parking spot at the mall will be as frustrating as ever.

Take heart: In the future, technology might make it easier.

Car makers, communications companies and high-tech firms all are working on ways to let you electronically find, reserve and pay for designated parking spots, and then automatically park your vehicle in them when you get there.

A lot of the effort is aimed at "George Jetson" consumers willing to pay for the latest gadgets.

But also helping drive technology into the otherwise mundane business of parking are high gasoline prices, environmental issues, congestion and rising real estate prices.

"I don't know how many people on a typical day . . . are looking for a place to park, needlessly using up gas, causing pollution and delaying my drive home," said Neil Schuster, president of the Intelligent Transportation Society of America, which advocates better transportation systems.

Technology "is not only part of the solution, it's a key part of it," Schuster said.

Already, airports and many major parking companies have deployed electronic car-counting devices that let approaching drivers know how many parking spaces are available in a lot and where they're located.

In-car GPS navigation systems, meanwhile, can guide drivers to surface parking decks.

Oncoming technology is much more far-reaching, even though there are a few speed bumps between here and there.

Some of the concepts in the works:

•Finding parking spots.

Coral Springs, Fla.-based Nav4 Technology Inc. plans to test a system in New York next year that would embed cheap radio-frequency identification tags in parking spots.

Using their cell phones, drivers could zero in on the transmitters as they circle the block. As a bonus, drivers could also use their phones to find their car if they forget where they parked.

Nav4 Technology Vice President Ehud Mendleson says the idea is still not ready for deployment. But "the technology is not the problem," he said. "The problem is how do you do it and who pays for it."

XM Satellite Radio is further along with what it calls its ParkingLink system, which it is testing in Washington, Los Angeles, Chicago and Detroit.

XM plans to link up with parking lot operators who would beam information on empty spots to XM subscribers, just as they can get traffic information today.

Spokesman David Butler said that because of delays in reaching agreements with parking lot operators, no date has been set to roll out the service, which would probably cost subscribers a few extra dollars per month.

•Reserving and paying for parking spots.

Internet companies in several big cities now offer online databases that can be used to find, reserve and pay for designated parking spots in advance.

Other outfits, such as Cambridge, Mass.-based SpotScout Inc., are planning to take the concept to mobile phones.

SpotScout's service would let users of Web-enabled phones or hand-held computers search for parking spots by typing in their destination and then sort by price, location or type.

Using SpotScout, homeowners could put their driveway or private parking spot up for the highest bid at peak times, such as during sporting events or festivals.

Cell phones can also be used to pay for parking.

ParkMagic, an Irish company, just announced an agreement with a Verizon Communications Inc. subsidiary for a U.S. service that would let subscribers use their mobile phones to pay for metered parking in some cities.

After setting up a prepaid account, ParkMagic users could dial a number that would activate a small dashboard-mounted terminal they get with the service. The terminal would keep track of the amount of time they're parked and debit their account.

Other cell phone companies are working on ways for users to make "micropayments" for parking by simply waving their handsets in front of sensors embedded in meters or parking lot exit booths.

•Parking your vehicle.

Lexus' new LS 460 sedans do the seemingly impossible: They parallel-park themselves.

Using sensors and a wide-angle camera, models with Lexus' optional Advanced Parking Guidance System measure the size of parking spaces and then automatically turn the steering wheel and back the car into a space with the push of a button.

Bundled with navigation packages and in-car entertainment systems, the system can add $3,800 or more to the price of the cheaper, $61,000 LS 460 model. The option costs an extra $700 on the $71,000 LS 460L model, which comes standard with many of the other features.

High price aside, the most interesting car option in decades is extremely popular, Lexus spokesman Sam Butto said.

In coming months, Lexus plans to significantly increase the number of LS 460s that it makes with the option because of high demand.

"I think we were a little surprised that interest has been as high as it has been in this feature," Butto said.

Electronics giant Siemens AG and other auto industry suppliers are working on similar systems.

Some companies are taking the idea of automated parking to another level — literally.

Clearwater, Fla.-based Robotic Parking Systems Inc. is one of several companies trying to build automated parking garages across the country.

With Robotic's technology, drivers pull their cars into an elevator-like lift at the garage entrance. The system raises the cars and moves them to designated spots.

Robotic spokesman Jeff Faria said the system is safer, more compact and more efficient than traditional parking garages.

But problems with the company's only garage so far, built for the city of Hoboken, N.J., have kept Robotic's big idea in the basement.

In the four years since opening, the garage has dropped two cars, one because the car was positioned incorrectly and one because a driver opened the trunk of his new Cadillac with his remote while it was being moved, the company said.

Recently, Hoboken city leaders voted to bring in an outside company to try to fix what it says are software problems and other issues at the garage.

passdoubt
Dec 17, 2006, 12:46 AM
With holiday shopping in high gear, you can bet that finding a decent parking spot at the mall will be as frustrating as ever.
I've never understood the complaint that finding spots in mall parking lots is difficult. I've been to the King of Prussia and Franklin Mills malls on black fridays and pre-holiday weekends during peak hours and still never had a problem. They build the lots so big that it's extremely rare for them to fill up.

My guess is that when people talk about finding spots at malls they're really just talking about lazy asses who don't want to spend (gasp!) 5 minutes walking through the lot to the entrance. Meanwhile they spend a half an hour walking around inside the mall...

mthq
Dec 17, 2006, 7:07 AM
I don't like that new Lexus car that parallel parks itself. I've heard it takes 20 minutes to get it parked anyways.

Tosspot
Dec 17, 2006, 7:37 AM
"I don't know how many people on a typical day . . . are looking for a place to park, needlessly using up gas, causing pollution and delaying my drive home," said Neil Schuster, president of the Intelligent Transportation Society of America, which advocates better transportation systems.


What a disengenuous, red-herring piece of utter tripish dumbfuckery.

KevinFromTexas
Dec 17, 2006, 12:27 PM
My guess is that when people talk about finding spots at malls they're really just talking about lazy asses who don't want to spend (gasp!) 5 minutes walking through the lot to the entrance. Meanwhile they spend a half an hour walking around inside the mall...

Exactly. It's the lazy oafs who don't want to have to walk at all. They complain that 200 extra feet, (which is nothing), makes them tired. And I'm not talking about people with health issues, or the ones with bum legs, that's fine, they have a legitimate excuse. But the 25 and 30 year olds who complain are wimps. I've known people who would spend 5 minutes or more circling a parking lot looking for the nearest space when just picking the first one would be so much easier and faster.

What a disengenuous, red-herring piece of utter tripish dumbfuckery.

Yes, that one struck me as a little far-fetched also. That's just their marketing ploy for the lazy oafs I spoke about above.

miketoronto
Dec 17, 2006, 4:30 PM
I can't say I have had issues with finding a parking spot at a mall. Ohhh wait, thats because I did none of my Christmas shopping at the mall :)

Chicago103
Dec 18, 2006, 7:32 PM
[QUOTE=KevinFromTexas;2515401]Exactly. It's the lazy oafs who don't want to have to walk at all. They complain that 200 extra feet, (which is nothing), makes them tired. And I'm not talking about people with health issues, or the ones with bum legs, that's fine, they have a legitimate excuse. But the 25 and 30 year olds who complain are wimps. I've known people who would spend 5 minutes or more circling a parking lot looking for the nearest space when just picking the first one would be so much easier and faster.
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Its because of lazy oafs like this that I fear life expectancy will actually decrease in this country. As far as im concerned unless you are over 80 years of age and/or have a documented health problem that prevents you from walking you should not use anything including your age as an excuse for not being able to walk such short distances. If your 25 or 30 and dont have any major health problems and complain about walking it wouldnt surprise me if you dont change your habits you will end up dying of a heart attack or stroke from clogged arteries in your office park parking lot by the time you are 40 or 50. I bet there are few people who make it to age 85 plus that didnt have walking as a major part of their lives when they were younger. The same would apply to people who bike, anything that uses your own body as power is good for you.

Parking is only a problem for people because they refuse to just park in the first place (in urban areas such parking is also probably significantly cheaper) they find instead of going through the headache of finding the place that is the closest and requires the least walking.

PhilippeMtl
Dec 18, 2006, 8:18 PM
31% of american population is obese. ( 24% in Mexico, 22% in UK, 22% in Autralia, 15% in Canada, 3% in Japan...)

With this kind of ''invention'', I will not be surprise if you hit the 50% rate in 10 years.

brian_b
Dec 20, 2006, 2:40 PM
great, let's give bad drivers more reasons to play with their cell phone while driving.

OfCourse
Dec 20, 2006, 3:15 PM
Yeah, my cousin is a lazy ass that doesn't want to walk an extra 30 feet to get to the entrance. I've been riding passenger in his car and just b/c he didn't want to walk an extra minute or two, he just decided to NOT go to the store and instead drove 10 minutes across town to another grocery store so he can find parking 2 spots closer. And he's 23 years old! :hell:

All this laziness is annoying.

the pope
Dec 22, 2006, 9:48 PM
I've never understood the complaint that finding spots in mall parking lots is difficult. I've been to the King of Prussia and Franklin Mills malls on black fridays and pre-holiday weekends during peak hours and still never had a problem. They build the lots so big that it's extremely rare for them to fill up.



that's because they build them so they are full only one day of the year (Friday after thanksgiving). the other 364? Well.....um....

passdoubt
Dec 23, 2006, 2:41 AM
Yeah, I was there on the Friday after Thanksgiving (black Friday). It wasn't even close to being full. There were spots galore.