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SolarWind
Aug 24, 2022, 11:12 PM
August 22, 2022

https://imgur.com/CWgqvxM.jpg

SolarWind
Aug 24, 2022, 11:26 PM
Guinness Brewery

Looks like they are going backward on this. Ouch. Anyone know the story

April 4, 2022

https://imgur.com/Nygdfnm.jpg

April 26, 2022

https://imgur.com/ukN2Mwz.jpg

August 22, 2022

https://imgur.com/RYBRe0Z.jpg

https://imgur.com/xOO7mdD.jpg

https://imgur.com/3nERLmJ.jpg

https://imgur.com/umirOQL.jpg

https://imgur.com/MrQQyxz.jpg

SolarWind
Aug 24, 2022, 11:31 PM
Here's the condo building replacing that demolished 1860s pre-fire building at 116 N. Willard Court in the West Loop:

Via Crain's (https://www.chicagobusiness.com/residential-real-estate/chicago-fire-era-house-replaced-multimillion-dollar-condos)

https://s3-prod.chicagobusiness.com/styles/width_792/s3/120%20n%20willard%20credit%20gabriel%20X%20Michael%20left%2C%20Dream%20Town%20Realty%20right%20.jpg

August 22, 2022

https://imgur.com/fPJ0393.jpg

Busy Bee
Aug 24, 2022, 11:55 PM
Less grey. More better.

Randomguy34
Aug 25, 2022, 12:12 AM
The only three colors that exist in Fulton Market are black, red, and glass...

Chi-Sky21
Aug 25, 2022, 1:53 AM
and orange,,,,,and yellow. They have done pretty good in my book.

rivernorthlurker
Aug 25, 2022, 8:58 AM
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tag---the-aspen-group-opens-new-corporate-headquarters-in-chicago-quadruples-space-301448969.html

In 2018, TAG, one of the nation's largest and fastest growing healthcare support organizations, relocated its corporate headquarters from Syracuse, N.Y. to W. Randolph St. in Chicago, pledging to bring 250 new jobs to the city. Now, the company is once again expanding its footprint in Chicago.

TAG signed a 14-year lease agreement to take over 200,000 square feet of the new state-of-the-art 800 W. Fulton Market building.


August 22, 2022

https://imgur.com/CWgqvxM.jpg

rivernorthlurker
Aug 25, 2022, 9:00 AM
Feels like there should be a law in Chicago about protecting all brick/masonry buildings that survived the fire. I know there won't be. Bummer.

Here's the condo building replacing that demolished 1860s pre-fire building at 116 N. Willard Court in the West Loop:

Via Crain's (https://www.chicagobusiness.com/residential-real-estate/chicago-fire-era-house-replaced-multimillion-dollar-condos)

https://s3-prod.chicagobusiness.com/styles/width_792/s3/120%20n%20willard%20credit%20gabriel%20X%20Michael%20left%2C%20Dream%20Town%20Realty%20right%20.jpg

BrinChi
Aug 25, 2022, 3:19 PM
Yeah, but custard? I mean seriously what do people see in custard? Is that just me?

It's not about what we see. Everything to do with what we taste. ;)

Culver's is good custard, but Kopps (available at a couple WI locations only) is the authentic thing.

Steely Dan
Aug 25, 2022, 3:57 PM
It's not about what we see. Everything to do with what we taste. ;)

Culver's is good custard, but Kopps (available at a couple WI locations only) is the authentic thing.

my wife is originally from milwaukee, so we had frozen custard served at our wedding.

to find the very best custard we actually did a blind taste test from 4 different renowned milwaukee area custard places (kopps, oscar's, leon's, and gilles)) with her whole family.

for a plain vanilla frozen custard (to serve along with our wedding cupcakes), Oscar's was the winner of the contest.

r18tdi
Aug 25, 2022, 5:08 PM
919 Fulton landed an anchor, according to Crain's. We keep hearing the office market is struggling and yet projects like these keep marching forward.

https://s3-prod.chicagobusiness.com/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-24%20at%202.48.41%20PM.png

Fulton Market office building lands anchor tenant
Harrison Street Real Estate Capital is nearing a deal to more than triple the size of its headquarters and move it to the former meatpacking district.
https://www.chicagobusiness.com/commercial-real-estate/fulton-market-building-lands-harrison-street-real-estate-capital-anchor

galleyfox
Aug 25, 2022, 5:49 PM
919 Fulton landed an anchor, according to Crain's. We keep hearing the office market is struggling and yet projects like these keep marching forward.



I think it depends on the class of the building especially in older ones, and probably some sublease and pricing questions, but other organizations were much more optimistic than Crain’s.




You might want to look at what Moody's has to say about it.

https://cre.moodysanalytics.com/insights/cre-trends/chicago-office-market-outshines-other-us-metros-tops-q2-absorption/


https://cre.moodysanalytics.com//app/uploads/2022/07/image-10-1024x398.png
https://cre.moodysanalytics.com//app/uploads/2022/07/image-11-1024x531.png



Across all four major commercial real estate sectors – office, multifamily, retail, and industrial – the Windy City came out strong in the second quarter. Particularly intriguing is Chicago’s office market performance. Last quarter’s net absorption for Chicago finished highest in the country and it wasn’t even close. A good marker for demand, Chicago’s increase in occupied square footage of 2.4 million towered over second place Dallas at 0.9 million SF and completely obliterated the national trend (-8.4 million SF[2]).

This is also far from a random one-off fluke. The Chicago office market has the highest level of net absorption in the country since the start of the pandemic – beginning in Q3 of last year, occupied stock has positively changed all four quarters, rising 5.6 million SF and also topping the list across the US.

thegoatman
Aug 25, 2022, 6:11 PM
Let's goooooo

Can't wait for this building to start, there shouldnt be a vacant lot across from one of the most popular eateries in the city (timeout market), this will liven up the whole area.

Zimme
Aug 25, 2022, 7:01 PM
my wife is originally from milwaukee, so we had frozen custard served at our wedding.

to find the very best custard we actually did a blind taste test from 4 different renowned milwaukee area custard places (kopps, oscar's, leon's, and gilles)) with her whole family.

for a plain vanilla frozen custard (to serve along with our wedding cupcakes), Oscar's was the winner of the contest.

This is very true. I grew up is the Milwaukee suburbs and Oscar's has always been my favorite frozen custard - especially for vanilla and their turtle sundaes.


Culver's custard is good for what it is but definitely doesn't compare to the other authentic places around Milwaukee.

OrdoSeclorum
Aug 25, 2022, 8:16 PM
I think it depends on the class of the building especially in older ones, and probably some sublease and pricing questions, but other organizations were much more optimistic than Crain’s.







https://cre.moodysanalytics.com//app/uploads/2022/07/image-10-1024x398.png
https://cre.moodysanalytics.com//app/uploads/2022/07/image-11-1024x531.png

So the amount of office space leased last quarter in Chicago was 2.5x higher than any other city? At a time while the U.S. on balance is shedding leases? And vacancy is as low as it's been since 2017 and is heading lower? Jesus.

Razorback
Aug 25, 2022, 8:32 PM
Hells Yeah!!!

I wonder whether this would prompt Gibson's Restaurant Group to lease the 15k store space reported a few months ago.


https://therealdeal.com/chicago/2022/02/22/gibsons-restaurant-group-eyes-lease-in-fulton-market-building/?irclickid=0L%3ARFbWIoxyITZNQN2Wk1V8vUkDUaMVgiym5yM0&irgwc=1&utm_source=impact&utm_medium=af


919 Fulton landed an anchor, according to Crain's. We keep hearing the office market is struggling, yet projects like these keep marching forward.

https://s3-prod.chicagobusiness.com/Screen%20Shot%202022-08-24%20at%202.48.41%20PM.png

Fulton Market office building lands anchor tenant
Harrison Street Real Estate Capital is nearing a deal to more than triple the size of its headquarters and moves it to the former meatpacking district.
https://www.chicagobusiness.com/commercial-real-estate/fulton-market-building-lands-harrison-street-real-estate-capital-anchor

Mr. Chicago
Aug 25, 2022, 8:39 PM
Mr. Chicago here,
I was in Chicago recently on my annual pilgrimage two weeks ago and was quite pleased with what I saw, My walking tour took me from my usual garage on St,Clair and Grand, along the river and down Randolph to May. Glad to see the high rises are not lining Randolph leaving the older buildings to add to the character to the area. Speaking of character, the garage on St. Clair has personality much like a Christmas tree. The south end of the loop around Jackson an stand some infusion of life but it was clean and with much potential.

Now for other details. You know I am a big Chicago fan which also includes an honest assessment pf something that is overlooked---INFRASTRUCTURE.
Wacker drive by the Vista is turning into granola; the high and mighty will notice the decay. Furthermore some of the railroad bridges are on the verge of collapse. I know this subject is somewhat beyond the scope of this thread but you know Kansas City-Southern is building a new link connecting deep Mexico to Canada. Chicago could become a bit out of the way if the lines in the city fall apart. On to the neighborhoods

The neighborhoods look environmentally sound meaning well forested. Drove down Roosevelt Road and is has that settled quality about the place. But we know the area is not complete--any news on when Roosevelt Square will start up construction again? Ogden is developing nicely. Has anybody ever seen Green Street In Urbana by the university? It is a good model for Ogden--a sort of Montreal ,Illinois. New City is a disappointment open the windows to the street and see Clybourn come alive. Any new on filling in the area along Clybourn and Larrabee?

Walked up Michigan from Roosevelt to the Oak beach. Spoke to the 5013c people. We both agreed. Crime? We did not feel it Anyway please consider the idea of making the Mag Mile into an international Mag Mile with more foreign retail and that way the area will be very unique.

What gives Chicago its magic is that all the buildings stand out very unlike NYC. Truly a remarkable city. Thanks Chicago.

Vlajos
Aug 25, 2022, 8:50 PM
So the amount of office space leased last quarter in Chicago was 2.5x higher than any other city? At a time while the U.S. on balance is shedding leases? And vacancy is as low as it's been since 2017 and is heading lower? Jesus.

Yeah, this is freaking amazing. Really, really good news!

galleyfox
Aug 25, 2022, 9:33 PM
So the amount of office space leased last quarter in Chicago was 2.5x higher than any other city? At a time while the U.S. on balance is shedding leases? And vacancy is as low as it's been since 2017 and is heading lower? Jesus.

Well, I’ve been wondering what the situation was since the Thompson Center sale, when Reschke mentioned offhandedly that the Thompson Center/115 S LaSalle transaction would reduce Central Loop vacancy down to 16%.

(I believe that was a Q3 transaction, correct me if I’m wrong. Lol)

And the local office developers have been a little too gung ho in recent months.


Reschke said Google’s move alone will cut the vacancy rate in the central Loop from 22% to 16%, a rate that he said beats national averages.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/7/27/23280587/google-thompson-center?_amp=true

thegoatman
Aug 25, 2022, 10:24 PM
Nice to see Chicago doing better than its peers, usually its always lagging. Would love to see another corporate relocation here...anything to fix our PR.

Randomguy34
Aug 25, 2022, 11:31 PM
Fulton Market office building lands anchor tenant
Harrison Street Real Estate Capital is nearing a deal to more than triple the size of its headquarters and move it to the former meatpacking district.
https://www.chicagobusiness.com/commercial-real-estate/fulton-market-building-lands-harrison-street-real-estate-capital-anchor

The article also mentions that JDL will be a co-developer

thegoatman
Aug 25, 2022, 11:49 PM
The article also mentions that JDL will be a co-developer

So this project should break ground tomorrow? /s

rivernorthlurker
Aug 26, 2022, 6:23 AM
Nice to see Chicago doing better than its peers, usually its always lagging. Would love to see another corporate relocation here...anything to fix our PR.

Well TAG moved into 800 W Fulton as I mentioned in previous post. (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9711558&postcount=51149) Maybe it's not the corporate size you're thinking of, but 250 jobs is pretty decent for a company I've never heard of. Chicago ends up being the place of logical conclusion for a ton of businesses.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tag---the-aspen-group-opens-new-corporate-headquarters-in-chicago-quadruples-space-301448969.html

In 2018, TAG, one of the nation's largest and fastest growing healthcare support organizations, relocated its corporate headquarters from Syracuse, N.Y. to W. Randolph St. in Chicago, pledging to bring 250 new jobs to the city. Now, the company is once again expanding its footprint in Chicago.

Also snagging a company from New York State feels kinda good. :P

rivernorthlurker
Aug 26, 2022, 6:27 AM
I would love to see the breakdown since there have been some massive high profile 'absorption' during this time like BMO tower, 110 Wacker, and possibly Salesforce. I'mm not sure how/when they count these.

It would be more exciting if the high numbers weren't coming from single massive projects.

Does anyone know what 'completions' are in this context?

I think it depends on the class of the building especially in older ones, and probably some sublease and pricing questions, but other organizations were much more optimistic than Crain’s.







https://cre.moodysanalytics.com//app/uploads/2022/07/image-10-1024x398.png
https://cre.moodysanalytics.com//app/uploads/2022/07/image-11-1024x531.png

Randomguy34
Aug 26, 2022, 1:08 PM
Don't forget that Kellogg is moving their HQ to Chicago, so that should also further reduce office vacancies by a good chunk

west-town-brad
Aug 26, 2022, 1:40 PM
Well TAG moved into 800 W Fulton as I mentioned in previous post. (https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9711558&postcount=51149) Maybe it's not the corporate size you're thinking of, but 250 jobs is pretty decent for a company I've never heard of. Chicago ends up being the place of logical conclusion for a ton of businesses.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/tag---the-aspen-group-opens-new-corporate-headquarters-in-chicago-quadruples-space-301448969.html



Also snagging a company from New York State feels kinda good. :P

TAG is the holding co. for Aspen Dental, the paypay lender of dentists, which already relocated to Chicago in 2018. there is a lot of fuzzy math with these relocation announcements.

west-town-brad
Aug 26, 2022, 1:44 PM
https://www.chicagobusiness.com/technology/discover-financial-hiring-tech-talent-downtown-chicago

Discover Card has 75 new grads starting next week in their new "data and analytics center" in river north. according to the article these people have been hired from all of the top technical universities you would imagine from around the US (inclusive of Chi and IL of course).

good to see that recruiting talent to Chicago has not taken too much of a hit, which is what I have seen in my own business as well.

article states 3 days per week is required in office, with the average salary being 6 figures.

I guess they plan to hire another class of 75 people at some future date.

r18tdi
Aug 26, 2022, 3:59 PM
City Slaps Stop Work Order On $90 Million Six Corners Sears Redevelopment
Workers on the site were building without a permit, city officials said. It's the second time developers have been forced to stop work on the project.
https://blockclubchicago.org/2022/08/25/city-slaps-stop-work-order-on-six-corners-sears-redevelopment/

Sounds about right for Novak. They have a history of asking for forgiveness instead of permission.

marothisu
Aug 27, 2022, 10:47 AM
https://www.chicagobusiness.com/technology/discover-financial-hiring-tech-talent-downtown-chicago

Discover Card has 75 new grads starting next week in their new "data and analytics center" in river north. according to the article these people have been hired from all of the top technical universities you would imagine from around the US (inclusive of Chi and IL of course).

good to see that recruiting talent to Chicago has not taken too much of a hit, which is what I have seen in my own business as well.

article states 3 days per week is required in office, with the average salary being 6 figures.

I guess they plan to hire another class of 75 people at some future date.

I won't say who I work for, but what Discover is doing is very small compared to what my company has quietly done in Chicago (and a lot of our jobs aren't entry level meaning they're a bit higher paying). For tech jobs alone we've hired I believe at least 1500 since last year and most are downtown. None of this is in the news for the record and at least 95% of them are 6 figure jobs. Not only did I move back from the East Coast for it but there's multiple in my small org who have moved to Chicago from the coasts this summer alone for it, and some more coming next month. We've also gotten some people from overseas. I've also been able to hire a few underemployed people (no idea why they even were) and their salaries probably over doubled overnight.

It's kind of amazing to me what exactly doesn't make the news. I think if we decided to announce exactly how many we've hired in Chicago since last year (more than above...we have more than just tech) it would be massive news. Like on the scale of national making news.

galleyfox
Aug 27, 2022, 12:01 PM
I won't say who I work for, but what Discover is doing is very small compared to what my company has quietly done in Chicago (and a lot of our jobs aren't entry level meaning they're a bit higher paying). For tech jobs alone we've hired I believe at least 1500 since last year and most are downtown. None of this is in the news for the record and at least 95% of them are 6 figure jobs. Not only did I move back from the East Coast for it but there's multiple in my small org who have moved to Chicago from the coasts this summer alone for it, and some more coming next month. We've also gotten some people from overseas. I've also been able to hire a few underemployed people (no idea why they even were) and their salaries probably over doubled overnight.

It's kind of amazing to me what exactly doesn't make the news. I think if we decided to announce exactly how many we've hired in Chicago since last year (more than above...we have more than just tech) it would be massive news. Like on the scale of national making news.

Mostly remote, or is there office space included in the expansion as well?

marothisu
Aug 27, 2022, 1:13 PM
Mostly remote, or is there office space included in the expansion as well?

It varies by org but most are 3 days a week in office. That describes me since moving back last fall. Some are 4 or 5, but i met a few people last week who started going in last werk for the first time since the pandemic began. I think the stats are on those 3 days it's like 65% are in the office. That's still a ton of people - the building is busy enough to feel like a completely normal time period. At least on those 3 days. We have multiple office locations downtown but our main one is in danger of running out of space soon enough because we are expanding a bit. We have hundreds of jobs open in Chicago right now.

galleyfox
Aug 27, 2022, 4:21 PM
I would love to see the breakdown since there have been some massive high profile 'absorption' during this time like BMO tower, 110 Wacker, and possibly Salesforce. I'mm not sure how/when they count these.

It would be more exciting if the high numbers weren't coming from single massive projects.

Does anyone know what 'completions' are in this context?


I went through some figures for the downtown area from the Cushman and Wakefield reports. I think some of the data is categorized differently in the Moody’s article and table, but overall the big picture seems the same.

Basically, 110 N Wacker and Fulton Market were the big additional inventory bombs this year


Q2 2021 thru Q2 2022

Inventory: +2,700,859 sq ft
Total Vacant: +1,808,274 sq ft

Direct Vacant: +2,177,696 sq ft
Sublet Vacant: -369,422 sq ft






Q3 2021

Net Inventory: +113658
Net Vacant: +1,749,800

Direct Vacant: +1,484,985
Sublet Vacant: +264,815


Q4 2021

Net Inventory: +388,356
Net Vacant: -571,715

Direct Vacant: +195,265
Sublet Vacant: -766,980


Q1 2022

Net Inventory: +2,151,055
Net Vacant: +130,485

Direct Vacant: +384,659
Sublet Vacant: -254,174

Q2 2022

Net Inventory: +47,790
Net Vacant: +499,804

Direct Vacant: +112,887
Sublet Vacant: +386,917

SolarWind
Aug 28, 2022, 11:36 PM
August 22, 2022

https://imgur.com/8r3MGRs.jpg

https://imgur.com/GiULEUo.jpg

August 23, 2022

https://imgur.com/lVCaSge.jpg

Chase Tower has parking available at 20 S Clark. Maintenance work, which started in June, is to repair and reinforce the pedestrian tunnels running underneath Clark Street. Maintenance will also take place on the automobile tunnels for the garage and dock. Work will continue through the end of 2024.

SolarWind
Aug 28, 2022, 11:40 PM
August 22, 2022

https://imgur.com/d3moukx.jpg

https://imgur.com/4obdB85.jpg

August 23, 2022

https://imgur.com/K8LlpB7.jpg

SolarWind
Aug 28, 2022, 11:41 PM
August 23, 2022

https://imgur.com/YopqrGa.jpg

https://imgur.com/LQHdvAI.jpg

SolarWind
Aug 28, 2022, 11:42 PM
August 23, 2022

https://imgur.com/pIg92Fp.jpg

SolarWind
Aug 28, 2022, 11:43 PM
August 23, 2022

https://imgur.com/BYLKeHl.jpg

SolarWind
Aug 28, 2022, 11:44 PM
August 23, 2022

https://imgur.com/jIlaIXQ.jpg

SolarWind
Aug 28, 2022, 11:44 PM
August 23, 2022

https://imgur.com/bkubWzJ.jpg

ardecila
Aug 29, 2022, 3:08 PM
^ This is the weirdest, slowest project... I guess they just told Elston Block to send over all the leftovers?

I do love the repetition of these little buildings, though - reminds me of Manhattan tenements (https://skyscraper.org/housing-density/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2019/05/Stuyvesant_Town_Before.png), really gives that dense big-city feel like an Ed Hopper painting.

thegoatman
Aug 29, 2022, 3:26 PM
Didn't this proect start construction in like 2020? Shit's taking forever.

Handro
Aug 29, 2022, 4:24 PM
Didn't this proect start construction in like 2020? Shit's taking forever.

I think it started even long before that--like 2018ish? I was working in the west loop back then and this was under construction if I'm not mistaken.

SolarWind
Aug 29, 2022, 6:23 PM
Didn't this proect start construction in like 2020? Shit's taking forever.There was activity on the site back in October 2016. I posted earlier photos back in April of this year.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9596936&postcount=50482

SteelMonkey
Aug 29, 2022, 6:33 PM
Yep beat me to it - this also from 2016 as it was underway

https://chicago.curbed.com/2016/10/3/13152824/west-loop-collection-condos-for-sale

west-town-brad
Aug 29, 2022, 8:07 PM
I would imagine they are trying to sell out one building before starting the next... and while it looks like one big long building, I think it's actually 5 separate structures.

https://www.redfin.com/IL/Chicago/216-S-Green-St-60607/unit-4N/home/167689615

west-town-brad
Aug 31, 2022, 3:38 PM
https://chicagoyimby.com/2021/07/construction-imminent-for-mixed-use-development-at-2406-w-armitage-avenue-in-logan-square.html

this one is about topped out, which has caused quite a bit of distribution to this intersection from what appears to be extensive gas line and sewer/water line upgrades underground

glad to see this ended up with 5 floors versus the 4 floor plan originally proposed back in 2019

thegoatman
Aug 31, 2022, 4:16 PM
More utility lines need to be buried underground. Chicago is already ahead of most cities since alot of them are hidden in alleys, but I know in the West Loop there's still lots of utility lines around streets which kinda ruins the streetscape.

But do you have a picture of the completed project? (2406 w armitage)

Busy Bee
Aug 31, 2022, 4:20 PM
^ You ought to peruse the Philadelphia forum. Now that's a city with a serious problem. And their unwillingness to tackle overhead utility burial leads to ghastly aesthetic consequences with beer fridge sized meter blocks bolted to the front of brand new construction with vertical conduits running all over the place. It's a mess. Chicago is a dream by comparison.

Handro
Aug 31, 2022, 4:22 PM
Demo permit for Chicago Joe's on Irving Park was issued yesterday--clearing the way for the new mixed use building proposed there.

Lots of new housing units under (or soon to be under) construction within a half mile radius of Irving/Damen.

west-town-brad
Aug 31, 2022, 4:38 PM
More utility lines need to be buried underground. Chicago is already ahead of most cities since alot of them are hidden in alleys, but I know in the West Loop there's still lots of utility lines around streets which kinda ruins the streetscape.

But do you have a picture of the completed project? (2406 w armitage)

I would love for more utility lines to be underground. Alleys would be an easy place to start to move underground since that's where all the lines are now - aside from the issue of the final connection to buildings which are all overhead.

I can try to snap a photo at some point of 2406 armitage/2000 western...

ardecila
Aug 31, 2022, 5:01 PM
If the power lines are already tucked away in the alleys, why spend money to move them? Out of sight, out of mind.

Doing underground connections to the alley would be a nightmare given how tightly packed all the garages are. CTA had to move some power lines underground for the RPM project in Uptown/Edgewater, but they kept a short pole for each building to keep their overhead service (and streetlights): https://goo.gl/maps/vnmWniS1KZjKdabM6

Where there is not an alley available, I agree they should move underground (Fulton Market area, etc).

Via Chicago
Aug 31, 2022, 5:14 PM
i dont think alley power lines are too big a deal. my bigger annoyance is the street light wires which hang over parkways, which inevitably lead to trees either not being able to be planted under them, or awful hack jobs once they get tall enough to interfere.

thegoatman
Aug 31, 2022, 5:37 PM
ugh, those hanging power lines on columbus and LSD are so ugly

Tom In Chicago
Aug 31, 2022, 6:09 PM
ugh, those hanging power lines on columbus and LSD are so ugly

What power lines??? :???:

. . .

Steely Dan
Aug 31, 2022, 6:14 PM
If the power lines are already tucked away in the alleys, why spend money to move them? Out of sight, out of mind.


exactly.

that's the whole point of having alleys in the first place.

spending untold billions to bury the city's 1,900 miles of utility lines running down alleys would be one of the most monumentally stupid expenses ever.

west-town-brad
Aug 31, 2022, 6:37 PM
how about alleys that are also streets?

https://goo.gl/maps/EHyMvf1dLhPLF7Sf7

Busy Bee
Aug 31, 2022, 6:37 PM
Much of the "density" of the utility thicket is actually the cable and comms that hang at the lower levels... Those are the bigger offenders beyond the transmission lines and transformers. The telephone lines are less of an issue these days bit likely aren't going away for many many years, if ever entirely as there will always be a case for landlines. The cable TV lines are the biggest offenders with their wrapped bundles looking as thick as a boa constrictor and dangling messes strung to nearly every building. I watched a short story about electricity delivery (and theft) in Tbilisi, Georgia showing these chaotic thickets... Not quite that bad but on its way.

Randomguy34
Aug 31, 2022, 7:18 PM
Power lines in Chicago are a non-issue, especially compared to Philly, San Francisco, and NYC's outer-neighborhoods. Even in Fulton Market, they're slowly being buried below ground as more developments crop up.

west-town-brad
Aug 31, 2022, 8:24 PM
forget power lines, I would settle for sidewalks that are not hazardous.

unfortunately the city now tries to offload that responsibility onto individual property owners - like that little old lady who cant even afford to replace her 50 year old leaking roof.

thegoatman
Aug 31, 2022, 8:33 PM
how about alleys that are also streets?

https://goo.gl/maps/EHyMvf1dLhPLF7Sf7

Chicago has such interesting streetscapes, love it

Jibba
Aug 31, 2022, 8:52 PM
https://i.imgur.com/1iZOUnNl.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/5TKINOgl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vbRV32Kl.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/YyMsGbJl.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/IWm6PGsl.jpg?1
Looking S Down Sedgwick

thegoatman
Aug 31, 2022, 8:57 PM
Chicago Ave is really becoming a nice corridor, but before it can realize its true potential, they need to tear down those shitty projects on sedgwick (marshall field gardens i think? and the cabrini rowhomes). It'll make the activists mad but it doesnt matter, replace them with proper mixed income housing. Those 20th century housing projects that thought concentrated poverty would be a good idea needs t be a thing of the past.

Randomguy34
Aug 31, 2022, 9:02 PM
Dude. Calm. Down.

ardecila
Aug 31, 2022, 10:09 PM
i dont think alley power lines are too big a deal. my bigger annoyance is the street light wires which hang over parkways, which inevitably lead to trees either not being able to be planted under them, or awful hack jobs once they get tall enough to interfere.

I think this is an anti-theft strategy, they don't want people stealing copper from the streetlights. If all the wires run 20' in the air they are harder to reach than just going in a handhole and cutting out some wire with pliers.

The newer installations have a more burglar-proof handhole with tamper-resistant screws, etc.

gandalf612
Sep 1, 2022, 5:56 AM
Chicago Ave is really becoming a nice corridor, but before it can realize its true potential, they need to tear down those shitty projects on sedgwick (marshall field gardens i think? and the cabrini rowhomes). It'll make the activists mad but it doesnt matter, replace them with proper mixed income housing. Those 20th century housing projects that thought concentrated poverty would be a good idea needs t be a thing of the past.

The boarded up and fenced off Cabrini rowhomes are ghastly and should be renovated but the rest are serviceable, in theory when CHA rebuilds on the rest of the land it WILL be mixed-income. Marshall field gardens on the other hand are perfectly fine brick apartment buildings, I truly can't see what your problem with them is unless you just hate poor people

thegoatman
Sep 1, 2022, 7:15 AM
The boarded up and fenced off Cabrini rowhomes are ghastly and should be renovated but the rest are serviceable, in theory when CHA rebuilds on the rest of the land it WILL be mixed-income. Marshall field gardens on the other hand are perfectly fine brick apartment buildings, I truly can't see what your problem with them is unless you just hate poor people

I stand corrected, the Marshall Field Gardens are fine. Although I would prefer if they added some more mixed income people.

But yeah, the whole old Cabrini area needs to meet the bulldozer, ghastly. It's a stain on the city, no offense. Kinda blows my mind for decades nothing have been done to this area, it's literally on prime real estate. I mean look at this...

west-town-brad
Sep 1, 2022, 1:54 PM
someone asked for photos on this project and yimbychicago has some recent ones

https://chicagoyimby.com/2022/09/facade-work-underway-for-2406-w-armitage-avenue-in-logan-square.html

progress is up to the 5th floor as of today, the photos in the article only show 4th floor

ardecila
Sep 1, 2022, 3:06 PM
I think they will eventually tear down the Cabrini rowhouses, but they won't announce it yet because of the blowback they will get.

At this rate the surrounding land will be filled up within 10-15 years and they can get top dollar for the land - it may throw off enough surplus value that they can actually get a decent number of new public housing units built in the area.

Steely Dan
Sep 1, 2022, 5:41 PM
Noise discussion moved to the politics thread:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=213683&page=174

BrinChi
Sep 1, 2022, 7:11 PM
delete

Randomguy34
Sep 1, 2022, 10:42 PM
Two projects on the Far South Side are applying for city grants: 1) 101-room Hampton by Hilton hotel at 111th St and Doty Ave in Pullman and 2) Save A Lot supermarket immediately south of Pullman at 130th St and Eberhardt Ave in Altgeld Gardens

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/commercial-real-estate/new-hotel-grocery-store-pitched-pullman

marothisu
Sep 2, 2022, 3:39 AM
Convent Hotel addition was issued a new construction permit in East Lincoln Park. One of the few "open" pieces of land (parking lot) in that area still - it'll be 7 stories (80 feet tall) with 84 market rate units. This is right behind Clark St. Convent Hotel itself is being converted from 64 SRO units to 30 affordable units

The site:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9315091,-87.6437597,3a,75y,128.88h,89.77t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sN6Y6xTsL-0S0sliy0XvPKA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Some renderings via https://chicagoyimby.com/2022/08/september-groundbreaking-announced-for-covent-hotel-redevelopment-in-lincoln-park.html
https://chicagoyimby.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/convent1.jpeg

Razorback
Sep 3, 2022, 3:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq-bEQBhEvE

Razorback
Sep 3, 2022, 3:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=by-K06rtrTI&t=7s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfzmKTtm6Vc&t=143s

SolarWind
Sep 6, 2022, 2:25 AM
August 29, 2022

https://imgur.com/E3e1OQj.jpg

SolarWind
Sep 6, 2022, 2:26 AM
September 1, 2022

https://imgur.com/YkvvJUW.jpg

https://imgur.com/SnJQE3H.jpg

SolarWind
Sep 6, 2022, 2:27 AM
September 1, 2022

https://imgur.com/Iwl5Rrs.jpg

SolarWind
Sep 6, 2022, 2:27 AM
September 1, 2022

https://imgur.com/Zrnjyto.jpg

https://imgur.com/8GpQCjs.jpg

BVictor1
Sep 7, 2022, 12:41 AM
09.06.22

63rd & Maryland
https://uniim1.shutterfly.com/render/00-RXenJfzaBMqnIvhUYKY5Dky7QdnjyvmJHTIv4pJZsslaKn-EuNyLrcV6ckXPH8KVKwg5ydwHipy3aIZBf9dNYQ?cn=THISLIFE&res=large&ts=1662509069

marothisu
Sep 7, 2022, 6:43 PM
New construction permit issued for the vacant land at Adams & Leavitt to build a new 4 story, 15 unit building, The same developer owns the vacant land a block or so west at Adams & Oakley.

SolarWind
Sep 11, 2022, 8:07 AM
September 8, 2022

https://imgur.com/XdKWjjc.jpg

SolarWind
Sep 11, 2022, 8:08 AM
September 8, 2022

https://imgur.com/kBys8VC.jpg

SolarWind
Sep 11, 2022, 8:08 AM
September 8, 2022

https://imgur.com/TOXvX6C.jpg

https://imgur.com/L1qgJWd.jpg

SolarWind
Sep 11, 2022, 8:09 AM
September 8, 2022

https://imgur.com/uldkKGI.jpg

Tom In Chicago
Sep 12, 2022, 3:52 PM
I noticed there's a good sized building going up on Sheffield between Diversey and Wrightwood on what was the parking lot between the two Edith Spurlock Sampson Apartment towers-in-the-park directly across the street from that Wiggly Field dog park. . . has this been discussed here? It's possible I missed it, but it's such a large building I can't believe I've overlooked it. . .

. . .

glowrock
Sep 12, 2022, 4:00 PM
I noticed there's a good sized building going up on Sheffield between Diversey and Wrightwood on what was the parking lot between the two Edith Spurlock Sampson Apartment towers-in-the-park directly across the street from that Wiggly Field dog park. . . has this been discussed here? It's possible I missed it, but it's such a large building I can't believe I've overlooked it. . .

. . .

This is an addition to the complex, I believe. Mainly market-rate units.

Aaron (Glowrock)

ardecila
Sep 12, 2022, 4:04 PM
I noticed there's a good sized building going up on Sheffield between Diversey and Wrightwood on what was the parking lot between the two Edith Spurlock Sampson Apartment towers-in-the-park directly across the street from that Wiggly Field dog park. . . has this been discussed here? It's possible I missed it, but it's such a large building I can't believe I've overlooked it. . .

. . .

Yes, 80 units in the new building, mostly larger 3-bedroom units. 75% are CHA units or affordable, the other 25% are market rate.

It's really dramatic that the old towers have 394 units (each) while the new building has only 80. And the new building is significantly chunkier. Not great access to light in those new buildings...

mh777
Sep 12, 2022, 4:09 PM
Anyone have an update on 633 S LaSalle? I know they broke ground a month or two ago, but seems awfully quiet since.

BVictor1
Sep 13, 2022, 4:44 AM
I don't know about this...

https://theljc.com/latest/lucien-lagrange-joining-clayco-subsidiary-lamar-johnson-collaborative


Lucien Lagrange Joining Clayco Subsidiary Lamar Johnson Collaborative


[Chicago, IL] – [September 12, 2022] – Clayco, a national full-service, turnkey real estate, architecture, engineering, design-build, and construction firm, and its subsidiary Lamar Johnson Collaborative (LJC) are pleased to welcome distinguished Architect Lucien Lagrange and members of his team joining the Lamar Johnson Collaborative effective September 1, 2022.

Lucien Lagrange will join Lamar Johnson Collaborative as a principal and will act in the role of senior design consultant. Additionally, My-Nga Lam, Victor Krasnopolsky, and Alfredo Marr will also join as principals. Together, this team will provide leadership to the residential and hospitality studios at Lamar Johnson Collaborative. With the addition of this new team, Lamar Johnson Collaborative will have a staff of over 250 and offices in Chicago, St Louis, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Kansas City, and Atlanta.

SamInTheLoop
Sep 13, 2022, 6:36 PM
I don't know about this...

https://theljc.com/latest/lucien-lagrange-joining-clayco-subsidiary-lamar-johnson-collaborative


Lucien Lagrange Joining Clayco Subsidiary Lamar Johnson Collaborative


Why? Just......why? Thought we were turning this page....

munchymunch
Sep 13, 2022, 6:58 PM
That’s one hell of a downgrade.

r18tdi
Sep 13, 2022, 7:23 PM
Bit of a head scratcher. Nothing about LJC's body of work really meshes with Lucien's practice.

gandalf612
Sep 14, 2022, 7:12 PM
Howard Brown Megaclinic Halsted & Cornelia

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358133878_163533de17_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358135503_63398ed3eb_b.jpg

Grocery store/Bank Halsted & Belmont

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52356945612_57e3831fc9_b.jpghttps://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358134578_e4aedf4a81_b.jpg

gandalf612
Sep 14, 2022, 7:23 PM
Broadway & Wilson

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52356946807_c78a15ae2c_b.jpghttps://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358135998_60a5d0a07b_b.jpghttps://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358320970_9d28ff24e7_b.jpg

Kenmore & Wilson

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52357898836_62f8a459d6_b.jpghttps://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358211839_3dbbf594b4_b.jpg

Sheridan & Sunnyside

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358322055_3dd5c729b2_b.jpg
This one was a surprise while biking around taking pics

833 W Wilson

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358320175_cd4db5aea7_b.jpg
Absolutely no idea what's going here. Quite amused by the construction worker who seems to have secured a scooter for his ride home inside the site.

Weiss Hospital Development

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52356947262_d6268cc66e_b.jpg
Post occupation site prep

gandalf612
Sep 14, 2022, 7:26 PM
Working from Wilson South

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52356945837_e561b13a42_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358322290_30f5e9b045_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358133883_20422d487e_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358321125_9d498ef241_b.jpg
Just finished looks like 1 move in already

gandalf612
Sep 14, 2022, 7:29 PM
Wolcott & Lawrence

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358319795_6050854f16_b.jpghttps://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358321860_4d3a0a9af7_b.jpg

4740 N Ravenswood

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358319970_798d3b5257_b.jpg
Almost done

That concludes all the developments I remembered to check out, almost definitely missed some in the area

rgarri4
Sep 14, 2022, 7:47 PM
Epic update!

SolarWind
Sep 15, 2022, 1:48 AM
September 12, 2022

https://imgur.com/joPwWps.jpg

ChiPlanner
Sep 15, 2022, 4:28 AM
Broadway & Wilson


833 W Wilson

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52358320175_cd4db5aea7_b.jpg
Absolutely no idea what's going here. Quite amused by the construction worker who seems to have secured a scooter for his ride home inside the site


835 Wilson- Affordable project- 73 new units on vacant land

https://chicago.urbanize.city/sites/default/files/styles/2018_article_gallery_image_2000w/public/2021-12/835%20W.%20Wilson%20-%203%20-%20Landon%20Bone%20Baker%20Architects.jpg?itok=WkZ5dXL0

https://chicago.urbanize.city/post/permits-issued-senior-housing-835-w-wilson

r18tdi
Sep 15, 2022, 7:14 PM
McPier has issued an RFI for revamping Lakeside Center with the caveat that convention space must be maintained or replaced elsewhere on site:

https://www.mpea.com/lakeside-center-rfi/